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Turin Brakes — Sea Change
Album: Outbursts
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Released: 2010
Length: 3:59
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six billion backs against the wall
now do we walk or run
this puzzle's falling into place
once more around the sun
remember when you were a kid
those days were all so long
but if we don't do this
somebody else will

three billion backs against the wall
a prayer for everyone
we saw the changing at the sea
another thing was done
remember when you could rely
those days are all but gone
and if we don't do this
somebody else will
if we don't do this
somebody else will
somebody else will

one billion backs against the wall
at least our feet were dry
I was an honour to myself
this storm would pass me by
remembering the things I did
I knew I would survive
but if we don't do this
somebody else will
if we don't do this
somebody else will
somebody else will

one billion backs against the wall
now do we walk or run
one thousand backs against the wall
now do we walk or run
one hundred backs against the wall
now do we walk or run
it's just your back against the wall
now do you walk or run
remember when you were a kid
those days are all but gone
if we don't do this
nobody else will
if we don't do this
nobody else will
nobody else will
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 sajitjacob wrote:

Both regimes were totalitarian, the names were just marketing, for a modern example:
North Korea : Democratic People's Republic of Korea, they even have an 'election' every 5 years I think.

I don't think anyone would seriously call Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany socialist.

Many atrocities are committed in the name of political (or religious) ideals it's all just marketing to create a 'them' that is different from 'us', In the case of Russia (and China) the 'them' was the aristocracy and intelligentsia. The common theme is that once the smoke clears only the supreme leader is left standing and he's not going anywhere.


"They just didn't do it right!" How many more dead do we need to find stealing from producers is not the way to go? How does one figure large social programs and gov't control are not exactly what they are? Especially the whole Nazis are not socialist thing is B.S. brought about by those who thought maybe that version was the possible way to go, then horrified by what happened and decided to gloss over their former support by saying they were not what they were, helped by Stalin deciding to claim "They turned right wing" to excuse why he ever entered a treaty with "Cousins in Socialism" Germany when both knew going in eventually they were going to be at war with each other. Barbarossa was just a bit ahead of schedule.  Trotsky was too right wing in their opinion.
 nicknt wrote:
A truly boring pop band.
 
I can't disagree more.  TB are a band well worth getting to know.  
 stunix wrote:

yes.   in my ignorance I would have sworn it was Lyndsey.
 
I'm not sure why.  The guitars are not Buckingham-esque in the least, and vocals are only mildly similar.
 ozzie1313 wrote:
 Psuedo Nicks and Buckingham

 
yes.   in my ignorance I would have sworn it was Lyndsey.
A truly boring pop band.
 sajitjacob wrote:

Both regimes were totalitarian, the names were just marketing, for a modern example:
North Korea : Democratic People's Republic of Korea, they even have an 'election' every 5 years I think.

I don't think anyone would seriously call Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany socialist.

Many atrocities are committed in the name of political (or religious) ideals it's all just marketing to create a 'them' that is different from 'us', In the case of Russia (and China) the 'them' was the aristocracy and intelligentsia. The common theme is that once the smoke clears only the supreme leader is left standing and he's not going anywhere.

 
Amen
 rdo wrote:

The perps of the Holocaust were socialists (Nazi is a compound of "National Socialist workers party), so the socialists killed Jews in the Holocaust.  Under Stalin and other socialist regimes, millions were killed.  Socialist are notorious enemies of liberty.
 
Both regimes were totalitarian, the names were just marketing, for a modern example:
North Korea : Democratic People's Republic of Korea, they even have an 'election' every 5 years I think.

I don't think anyone would seriously call Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany socialist.

Many atrocities are committed in the name of political (or religious) ideals it's all just marketing to create a 'them' that is different from 'us', In the case of Russia (and China) the 'them' was the aristocracy and intelligentsia. The common theme is that once the smoke clears only the supreme leader is left standing and he's not going anywhere.
 rdo wrote:

The perps of the Holocaust were socialists (Nazi is a compound of "National Socialist workers party), so the socialists killed Jews in the Holocaust.  Under Stalin and other socialist regimes, millions were killed.  Socialist are notorious enemies of liberty.
 
You are James A Donald and I claim my ten bucks.
 rdo wrote:

The perps of the Holocaust were socialists (Nazi is a compound of "National Socialist workers party), so the socialists killed Jews in the Holocaust.  Under Stalin and other socialist regimes, millions were killed.  Socialist are notorious enemies of liberty.
 
Amen.
Total Fleetwood Mac vibe on the song. I like it.
 helloitsme wrote:
Music version of Martin Niemöller 's (attributed) verse

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.


Wonderful song. 
Glad a new generation is asking questions.

 
The perps of the Holocaust were socialists (Nazi is a compound of "National Socialist workers party), so the socialists killed Jews in the Holocaust.  Under Stalin and other socialist regimes, millions were killed.  Socialist are notorious enemies of liberty.
Music version of Martin Niemöller 's (attributed) verse

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.


Wonderful song. 
Glad a new generation is asking questions.
 d48m02h1918 wrote:
Beautiful song....and as a weather fanatic, a 10 for the album cover!!  {#Good-vibes}

 
My goodness.....I'll second that! That photo is incredible (and the song ain't too bad either!)
Sounds good.
All time favorite!
This one has been in my IPOD rotation for some time...and it never gets old........................
Great song and the video is well done.
Beautiful song....and as a weather fanatic, a 10 for the album cover!!  {#Good-vibes}
 Frater_Kork wrote:
Awesome cover art.
 
fer sure!
Awesome cover art.
Like the voice. Worked for me...
Jeff09 wrote:

Agree completely...

 
Me too.
Haven't heard this one for a while on RP - glad to hear it again. The song is great, IMHO, and the video with the song is err, well, "interesting".
pain, hope, and faith ... {#Sunny}
{#Daisy}
9P
 ozzie1313 wrote:
 Psuedo Nicks and Buckingham
 
Although there is some similarity they deserve a better qualification than that.
Interesting song at first, it's getting a bit old now. 
Love Turin Brakes, great song!
 Sloggydog wrote:
I like it more every time I hear it and I liked it a lot when I first heard it
 
{#Cheers}  +1
I like it more every time I hear it and I liked it a lot when I first heard it
 Psuedo Nicks and Buckingham
It has been awhile since I have heard this song...and now I bump it up to a 9.
 
Outbursts - outstanding!!
{#Daisy}
What a song!! {#Dancingbanana}
this IS nice...
Bumping up to an 8
YES  {#Wave}
beck
Damn, this song FIRES me up!!! Thanks, Bill!

8—>9

 coolpeople_rule wrote:
Goose bumps good!
 

{#Yes}

If I never heard this song again...that'd be okay.
 Cynaera wrote:
I thought that with time and repeated playings, I'd get tired of this song, but I just can't seem to relegate it to my alternate playlist. It conveys such an urgent message that's more pertinent now than ever - I can't NOT listen and be affected.
 
Agree completely...

I thought that with time and repeated playings, I'd get tired of this song, but I just can't seem to relegate it to my alternate playlist. It conveys such an urgent message that's more pertinent now than ever - I can't NOT listen and be affected.
This one grows on you and just gets better and better.  Bumped it from 7 to 8.
Love this song I have it on my I-pod! Can't stop listening!
pixel-pusher:  I was going to remark on the wide-ranging high-hat technique where the cymbals are loosely touching when the pedal's lightly depressed, which allows an extended sizzle after being struck; as opposed to cinching them tightly together for a snappy smash, or striking them when widely separated producing a sound similar to a traditional crash ....

Got carried away there.  Don't really like the song much, except for the high-hat.
I think it's interesting how that awful old basic hi-hat disco beat can be snuck into a cool song (along with bongos and a dramatic chord structure) to make a tasty contemporary groove.
Like it more each time I hear it! (It's the "Turin Brakes" sound that sets this apart from FM or other groups.)


Like it less each time i hear it xD Overrated and mediocre...
8——->9
Time to go and buy it
Like it more each time I hear it.  +1
 Quasicoonass wrote:
Really like this... but as I listen  can't help thinking Fleetwood Mac
 
I understand the comparison - the guitars and the pure vocals - but it's a good comparison.

It's in my 10-CD player in my Sidekick (yes, I spend a lot of time driving.) It hasn't made the rotation yet - I'm still at Iron and Wine, after listening to my friend Lobelia's CD (dang, that woman can SING!)

I still love this, but I can't wait to hear the other stuff on the CD.  I have all summer, driving to and from the nursery and making occasional trips up Lamoille Canyon for pictures and picnics. If the weather cooperates, it promises to be a beautiful season.

Really like this... but as I listen  can't help thinking Fleetwood Mac
 Cynaera wrote:

Okay, okay - I hadda wait for money to pay for it. And I'm not sure why you think I'm a slacker (but you're probably right...) {#Lol}

The CD is in my player now, except I can't seem to get past "If You Can't Rock Me" by the Stones for now. I have both Rachael Yamagata CDs from "Elephants/Teeth Sinking Into Heart" and possibly Rhea's Obsession.  I haven't done enough driving to explore all 10 CDs, but I'm hoping to make a road-trip or two when the weather levels out. And Turin Brakes, Elbow, and Ludovico will be on the playlist.

So - I"m a slacker, but I'm a MOTIVATED slacker. {#Roflol}
 
Don't sweat it.....We all are in some sense, maybe ?  When are they going to play the song I like!  {#Lol}
 cohifi wrote:

slacker

edit: it's a pull on the line....so to speak....never mind....

 
Okay, okay - I hadda wait for money to pay for it. And I'm not sure why you think I'm a slacker (but you're probably right...) {#Lol}

The CD is in my player now, except I can't seem to get past "If You Can't Rock Me" by the Stones for now. I have both Rachael Yamagata CDs from "Elephants/Teeth Sinking Into Heart" and possibly Rhea's Obsession.  I haven't done enough driving to explore all 10 CDs, but I'm hoping to make a road-trip or two when the weather levels out. And Turin Brakes, Elbow, and Ludovico will be on the playlist.

So - I"m a slacker, but I'm a MOTIVATED slacker. {#Roflol}
Absolutely awesome song for the morning...  toe tapping, finger drumming and harmonies at this end!  Loved it!  Thanx!
 Cynaera wrote:
FINALLY ordered this from the RP link.  Well worth it.
 
slacker

edit: it's a pull on the line....so to speak....never mind....

FINALLY ordered this from the RP link.  Well worth it.
 Cynaera wrote:
I love this song more. Especially now. RIP, all you beautiful Japanese people who were lost in the quake, the tsunami, and the aftermath.  I weep for you.
 
Hear, hear!!!

(bows)
 

I love this song more. Especially now. RIP, all you beautiful Japanese people who were lost in the quake, the tsunami, and the aftermath.  I weep for you.
 pumpkin wrote:

Experience and treachery can lead to their own demise.
 
And often do. . . 
 
 MinMan wrote:

this just makes me want to remind listeners that;
"experience and treachery overcomes youth and ambition".
Sorry - truth hurts.


 
Experience and treachery can lead to their own demise.


Three billion backs against the wall
A prayer for everyone
We saw the changing of the sea
But not a thing was done
Remember when you could rely?
Those days are all but gone
And if we don't do this
Somebody else will



This made me think of all the people who are standing against dictatorship etc., right now.
This band, especially this song, reminds me of Remy Zero, a much underrated band IMHO. Excellent stuff, I love this! Keep on rockin' RP!

 ZM_Herb wrote:
I effen LOVE this song - gets better with every listen !!
 
{#High-five}

I've been humming this tune all weekend hoping I would hear it today.  Yea for RP.

I can't believe how Fleetwood Mac'ish (Tango Era) this is...


I effen LOVE this song - gets better with every listen !!
 Cynaera wrote:
This is just so, SO good!  I needed this today - life has taken a few turns for the bad, but this song gave me back my spine and my fight.  "It's just your back against the wall - now, do you walk or run?"  I'm not running. I'm walking. Slowly. Taking names, planning strategies. Feels a lot like control. I like it... {#Sunny}
 
Love the song. But these days gumption just makes me tired. {#Think}

Pretty Fresh!
next time around, it will probably become a 10
 MinMan wrote:

this just makes me want to remind listeners that;
"experience and treachery overcomes youth and ambition".
Sorry - truth hurts.


 

But sometimes it hurts so good.
Songwriting is pristine and so is the arrangement. I love the unhurried appearance of percussion. More specifically the bass drum in the second verse. Very effective.

this just makes me want to remind listeners that;
"experience and treachery overcomes youth and ambition".
Sorry - truth hurts.


 Cynaera wrote:
Something about Silversun Pickups and Turin Brakes just makes me want to change the world, or write a novel, or stand in a protest line, or fly a kite or go swimming in a creek or learn to play the mandolin or....

This song haunts my dreams.
 
{#Yes}

I really love these guys.  Another 10 from them.  Thanks RP for turning me onto a new sound again.
Oooh - I like this (when that thump thump thump kicked in especially)...

One of my favorite new songs.
 Cynaera wrote:
This is just so, SO good!  I needed this today - life has taken a few turns for the bad, but this song gave me back my spine and my fight.  "It's just your back against the wall - now, do you walk or run?"  I'm not running. I'm walking. Slowly. Taking names, planning strategies. Feels a lot like control. I like it... {#Sunny}
 
That's it!


Something about Silversun Pickups and Turin Brakes just makes me want to change the world, or write a novel, or stand in a protest line, or fly a kite or go swimming in a creek or learn to play the mandolin or....

This song haunts my dreams.
I really like this song, but you play it too much, in light of all the other great music that you don't play.

thanks!

8 right out of the gate and heading toward 9
Nice!!
 Stingray wrote:
CROSBY, STILL & NASH
broke down in TORINO!

But a good song, of course...!

 
Hi, Stingray! {#Wave} Yeah, I love this song. And I love CSN (and Y, on occasion...) *g*


This is just so, SO good!  I needed this today - life has taken a few turns for the bad, but this song gave me back my spine and my fight.  "It's just your back against the wall - now, do you walk or run?"  I'm not running. I'm walking. Slowly. Taking names, planning strategies. Feels a lot like control. I like it... {#Sunny}


CROSBY, STILL & NASH
broke down in TORINO!

But a good song, of course...!

Goose bumps good!
It's official - this is my new favorite song.  Where's the 20 on the rating scale???{#Sunny}
 I also heard the similarity to Lindsay Buckingham in this track.

FrankMc wrote:
Sounds a bit like Lindsay Buckingham at times.

 
Giselle62 wrote:

He has a cool voice doesn't he? There is a spectrum of attributes in people that range from "feminine" to "masculine" and we humans are all over the spectrum—-love it.

 
 


6—7
This song just grows on you.

These guys just keep getting better and better.
Yep - I still love this song. "One billion backs against the wall - at least our feet were dry..."  {#Dancingbanana_2}
Dont know this band, hear it first time on RP, like so many other ones! thanks a lot for that! Nice tune by the way!
{#Dancingbanana}Marlena On The Wall by Suzanne Vega would go nicely after this one...{#Sunny}
Great sound, nice energy, unique.
Liking the energy, melody and dynamics here. Throws energy back into the mix after Death Cab.
Sounds a bit like Lindsay Buckingham at times.

 
Giselle62 wrote:

He has a cool voice doesn't he? There is a spectrum of attributes in people that range from "feminine" to "masculine" and we humans are all over the spectrum—-love it.

 


 kittyharker wrote:
Yay, finally a female singer! ;)
 
He has a cool voice doesn't he? There is a spectrum of attributes in people that range from "feminine" to "masculine" and we humans are all over the spectrum—-love it.

 kittyharker wrote:
Yay, finally a female singer! ;)
 
not
Turin Brakes is a real hit and miss band with me, this one they bullseyed!!{#Clap}
 weevilkinevil wrote:
Totally thought this was Lindsey Buckingham!
 
Glad I'm not alone.

Also a bit of José González to my ears.



 Photo-John wrote:
Turni Brakes is really hit or miss for me. This song I absolutely love. But with others, I can't wait for them to end. There's a tied down, powerful tension in this song. It makes me antsy and I like that. Love the photo on the album cover, too. Talk about power!

 

Very nice assessment. I agree.
In fact, I think I might buy it just for the cover. ANd this song, of course.
This band is starting to really impress me.

I hear Elliot Smith.
Yay, finally a female singer! ;)

Turni Brakes is really hit or miss for me. This song I absolutely love. But with others, I can't wait for them to end. There's a tied down, powerful tension in this song. It makes me antsy and I like that. Love the photo on the album cover, too. Talk about power!

Very nice!
 romeotuma wrote:


This is cool...

 
Kidding?
 mandolin wrote:
...beautiful album cover...
 
Bought the album 2 days after first posting (no pun intended) and the photos throughout are very beautiful and powerful. Nice sound from these two singer/songwriters. Always enjoyed their music.

Has a little bit of Elliot Smith in it....
Gave it a 7 before all the Turin Brakes haters get on to rate it.
Totally thought this was Lindsey Buckingham!
I'd never heard this song, or this group, before.  I LOVE both - off to spend money now...{#Bananapiano}
 mandolin wrote:
...beautiful album cover...
 
Once in a lifetime photograph ... gorgeous.

Edit: very good song, too (~:
...beautiful album cover...
Ah, new Brakes! Gotta have.