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Porcupine Tree — I Drive The Hearse
Album: The Incident
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Released: 2009
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When this freedom stains my coat
With the Winter in my throat
When I'm lost I dig the dirt
When I fall I drive the hearse

And silence is another way of saying what I wanna say
And lying is another way of hoping it will go away
And you were always my mistake...

Given time, I fix the roof
Given cash, I speak the truth

And silence is another way of saying what I wanna say
And lying is another way of hoping it will go away
And you were always my mistake...

When I'm down I drive the hearse

When this boredom wears me out
Then the sky begins to cloud
Sleeping with my ball and chain
When she cries, I take the blame

And pride is just another way of trying to live with my mistakes
Denial is a better way of getting through another day
And silence is another way of saying what I wanna say
And lying is another way of hoping it will go away
And you were always my mistake...

When I'm down I drive the hearse
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the outro is so haunting..most excellent !
 ubuntourist wrote:
I saw Porcupine Tree live at NEARfest many moons ago and liked them but still wonder what drugs they use and how often.

 
None.  Zero drugs.  Wilson did smoke tobacco but I believe he has quit.

Listen carefully to the lyrics and you will hear an anti-blotto message.  
 ubuntourist wrote:
I saw Porcupine Tree live at NEARfest many moons ago and liked them but still wonder what drugs they use and how often.

 
Whatever they are using, if anything, it creates awesomeness! {#Cheesygrin}
I saw Porcupine Tree live at NEARfest many moons ago and liked them but still wonder what drugs they use and how often.
 horstman wrote:

Westslope,
Go purchase and listen to Lightbulb Sun. I think "Hatesong" alone is justification that Steven is indeed a sensitive guy who suffered at the loss of a relationship, one that appears to have not been ended by him.

Disappear of this album is also very good at showing how insignificant he felt in his relationship(s).
 
horstman, I was practising work-avoidance by skimming over this thread when I came upon your 2012 post.

I own Lightbulb Sun and love it.   Hatesong is great and I absolutely adore the new version on 4 1/2 with Ninet Tayet.  

Disappear on the Recordings CD is also a terrific song.  Though I believe it to be about differing career successes thwarting a relationship.  If anything that song is about Steven Wilson making his friend/partner feel insignificant.    Could be wrong about that.

The Where Would Be song on the Lightbulb Sun CD is a nostalgic, regret-filled review of past relationships and respective life accomplishments.  It is a sad song that works exceedingly well as a cathartic release.
Wilson is an empath.  From google: (chiefly in science fiction) a person with the paranormal ability to apprehend the mental or emotional state of another individual.

Well, I doubt Wilson has paranormal abilities but he seems to work hard at understanding others from the inside out.

I still suspect that he is too music focused/obsessed to have put enough time and effort into nurturing a long-term relationship.  He loves putting on concerts around the world.  There are many stunningly beautiful exotic fish in that sea if you get my drift.....   wink, wink, nudge, nudge.  

In fact, I am worried that the guy might find a love interest and soul mate that causes to him to settle down and invest time and effort in building a relationship and a household.   That could cut his music output to a small fraction of his current output.  Unless the soul mate was just as project-oriented as he is.  
Beautiful music...

 Signify is a must

 

bigB_3 wrote:


Deadwing or In Absentia are good starting points. 
 


 stunix wrote:
Google Where is God's country?   You get:-


 
Never mind Google, lad. 'Tis aye well known that Yorkshire is God's Own Country, and t'fount of all that's wise and holy. 'Appen ;-)
Nice!

There is another expression that is used to describe the place.

And on the 7th day, God did not rest but lifted up the corner of the earth and all the nuts rolled out to ___________.    

{#Smile} 

In the meantime, I better shush.   
Google Where is God's country?   You get:-

God's Own Country, is a phrase that is used to refer to several places such as Australia, United States, New Zealand, Kerala (India) and Yorkshire. Abbreviated to Godzone or less often Godzown, the term has been used for more than 100 years by New Zealanders to describe their homeland.

Urban Dictionary

God's Country
Used to denote one U.S. State's superiority over the rest.

God's Country
Land so far out in the middle of nowhere that even the most basic artifacts of civilization are hard to come by.

God's Country
The Sutherland Shire in southern Sydney. Definately the best place to live.
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so, tell me again, who agrees?

 Djoy wrote:

Really?  Road music?  Y'all must be pretty young.  This not the road type music I enjoy.  This is lovely, but not the driving, sing along, stay awake, road music I know from days gone by...the Dead, Stones, The Band, Poco. Sweetheart of the Rodeo, Jethro Tull, etc

 
Why thank you Djoy!  Actually I am 59 going on 60.....  

On the one hand, I am in better shape than most in their 30s and 40s; on the other hand, stuff breaks and strains much easier now and so getting old basically sucks.   That said,  I do like the way Mr. Goldman and his better half steer me to new music.

Sorry, not a big fan of the Grateful Dead.  I like some early Stones material but otherwise could care less.  Can you imagine?  I once got comp tickets to a Stones concert and spent most of it wishing I had more pot. 

Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson is one of my favourite road musicians.  I also listen to Pat Metheny, King Crimson, Yes, John Prine, Air, Cold Play, Metric, Future Islands, Talk Talk, The War on Drugs and a few more.     Talk Talk is simply amazing—as road music; will have to buy more CDs.  

Then I live in what atheists commonly agree upon is 'God's Country' so that might influence my choices.  
Thank you for playing this band.  Huge talent and overly ignored by Sirius, XM, and many other channels.  As far as break up of the band...  they'll be back, but enjoy the individual efforts in the mean time.  
 
 EdEastridge wrote:

I must concur on this. PT and Steven Wilson are both amazing finds I feel.

 
Triple Amen to that, RP was a musical rebirth for me and PT the most memorable early aspect of that experience.
 westslope wrote:

Broke up — no.  PT is on hiatus as Wilson pursues his career with a new stable of hand-picked musicians, who are all comfortable with jazz.  I believe that his two most recent solo CDs have outsold anything that PT did.  

Yes, it is terrific road music.  I play one PT/SW CD right after the other.   

If you like this, you might want to look at picking up all the studio CDs since and including Signify.   

 
Really?  Road music?  Y'all must be pretty young.  This not the road type music I enjoy.  This is lovely, but not the driving, sing along, stay awake, road music I know from days gone by...the Dead, Stones, The Band, Poco. Sweetheart of the Rodeo, Jethro Tull, etc
 dkwalika wrote:

They broke up? Too bad. I bought this album after hearing it here. Great road music.

 
Broke up — no.  PT is on hiatus as Wilson pursues his career with a new stable of hand-picked musicians, who are all comfortable with jazz.  I believe that his two most recent solo CDs have outsold anything that PT did.  

Yes, it is terrific road music.  I play one PT/SW CD right after the other.   

If you like this, you might want to look at picking up all the studio CDs since and including Signify.   
 Dav3thedog wrote:
Loved this band
 
They broke up? Too bad. I bought this album after hearing it here. Great road music.
Loved this band
Amazing song from an amazing band
Lovely instrumentals. Obvious, unintriguing lyrics. 
Please add Hand.Cannot.Erase to the mix.  It's his best work to date. 
This song rminds me of Peter Gabriel's Genesis 70s
They can do better...
Well Relayer, I sure hope the entrepreneur in Steven Wilson reanimates PT but the musician has stated that he got incredibly bored with 'heavy rock'.

Personally I am happy either way.  His last 3 solo CDs are staples for road trips.  I think he excelled with the Raven CD.

I would also love to see PT combined with his current band to form a super group that covers a wide range of music from jazz to heavy rock.   
 molson wrote:
Sweet, like a modern day Pink Floyd...which is not easy to pull off!!!

 
Absolutely.  They are truly the closest band to the Pink Floyd concept/flame.  Radiohead had potential, but not quite there.  PT had all the right talents, concept albums, amazing musicians, etc.

But alas, Steve Wilson is distracted with his solo career now.  Enough Steve, I love your solo work, but prefer the PT vehicle for your incredible talent.
 1wolfy wrote:
I wish Steve Wilson would 'create' with this band once again.

 
R.I.P. Porcupine Tree. Sadly, this may not happen for some time. Steven is off in Steven Land and while that's a great place for him, PT may no longer be a band. Which is very sad but in all honesty some of the creative juices seemed to become diluted.

All things cannot be great forever, and PT was great for a very long time. Many gems in those years of active album making, producing, and touring. I could live without them getting back together. I may have to. :(


Ahh much better.  Whew..{#Cry}
Sweet, like a modern day Pink Floyd...which is not easy to pull off!!!
 Midagemom wrote:
There are many reasons I think RP is a great radio station-introducing me to Porcupine Tree tops the list.
 
I must concur on this. PT and Steven Wilson are both amazing finds I feel.
There are many reasons I think RP is a great radio station-introducing me to Porcupine Tree tops the list.
This is one of my favorite tracks on this album.
I wish Steve Wilson would 'create' with this band once again.
Just tuned into Ozomatli on the PSD rather than this pendejada.  Oorale chamacos!
so glad RP turned me on to PT.   They are so great on their own merit plus there are elements that bring to mind my old fave, Genesis.....

it's hard to concentrate on work, here!  :)
Every track I hear from these guys is most excellent. Thanks RP for introducing me to this band.
 ShaunJ wrote:

For all you PT fans out there, I just ordered this last week;

 https://www.burningshed.com/store/porcupinetree/product/169/4174/

This special edition of Octane Twisted includes a bonus DVD video of The Incident performed live in Chicago.

Porcupine Tree's live double cd release Octane Twisted features The Incident in its entirety, recorded in Chicago.

The second CD contains highlights from the band's landmark show at Royal Albert Hall.
 
Mine arrived a few days ago.

No disappointments
wow...

instant purchase at Amazon...$.99 for a 6 1/2 minute song...
 dew34 wrote:
Love the Tree and all it works at portraying!!!!    {#Daisy}
 
For all you PT fans out there, I just ordered this last week;

 https://www.burningshed.com/store/porcupinetree/product/169/4174/

This special edition of Octane Twisted includes a bonus DVD video of The Incident performed live in Chicago.

Porcupine Tree's live double cd release Octane Twisted features The Incident in its entirety, recorded in Chicago.

The second CD contains highlights from the band's landmark show at Royal Albert Hall.


Love the Tree and all it works at portraying!!!!    {#Daisy}
I am so hooked on this.  Couldn't quite get it till we saw them in Houston last year.  Love it.

Hey horstmann!  How goes?

I could write a song about the glory of violent revolution and the deep sadness of lost comrades but I'm not a revolutionary and I don't like political violence.  :-)   I simply know a lot about it.  

If he is managing to keep his private life off the public radar, good for him.  The guy is such a workaholic that I wonder if he has time for a private life!  


 westslope wrote:

So here's my gossipy tabloid-type question.

Has Steven Wilson ever been in a relationship long enough to make any exit painful?


 
Westslope,
Go purchase and listen to Lightbulb Sun. I think "Hatesong" alone is justification that Steven is indeed a sensitive guy who suffered at the loss of a relationship, one that appears to have not been ended by him.

Disappear of this album is also very good at showing how insignificant he felt in his relationship(s).

So here's my gossipy tabloid-type question.

Has Steven Wilson ever been in a relationship long enough to make any exit painful?


Here's an early morning toast to couples who bicker and carry on.
 Deadwing wrote:


Remember Me Lover is a powerful song. Sadly, for me, I can relate to it 100%.
 


Me as well. Remember Me Lover sums up my divorce. Note that the song includes both sides of the story; the verses are his comments, the chorus is her response. Very clever song, brilliantly written.
Song describes the typical, dysfunctional way most people behave within personal relationships, starting with self.
 Relayer wrote:

I lived through the exact same situation, so the song does mean a lot to me as well.  Interestingly enough, another track on the album reminds me of the relationship as well - Remember Me Lover.  Here's an excerpt:

It's so hard to get along, I always know what you're going to say.
And this too, I hated you, I wish you learn to keep your mouth shut.

I've been through this with you about a hundred times.

Agree to disagree, start again with our lives.

And every single morning I wake up and you're still there, but tomorrow you will be alone and that is all you deserve.



 

Remember Me Lover is a powerful song. Sadly, for me, I can relate to it 100%.
 Chumbawamba-1984 wrote:
NIce. I need to get jump-started on Porcupine Tree. Any suggestions for a first CD?
 

Based on this song alone I would say Stupid Dream or Lightbulb Sun or even Blackfield II (different band, but still led by PT frontman Steven Wilson).

If you enjoy a wide array of PT moods I always suggest Deadwing or In Absentia.

Signify is MY personal favorite, but it is a very trippy, atmospheric album, and I wouldn't recommend it to many people as a first purchase.


I've always liked Porcupine Tree.  Nice!

 Chumbawamba-1984 wrote:
NIce. I need to get jump-started on Porcupine Tree. Any suggestions for a first CD?
 
Deadwing or In Absentia are good starting points. 

NIce. I need to get jump-started on Porcupine Tree. Any suggestions for a first CD?
 westslope wrote:

Nobody does busted up relationships better than Steven Wilson.

Can you imagine Steven Wilson working with Willie Nelson, Kris Kristoffersen, Steve Goodman, or John Prine?  I can.


 

I would buy a ticket to that show!!    {#Clap}
Nice!
 Kimberly8 wrote:
The soundtrack of my heart tonight. A painfully beautiful song.
 
23 years.

 1wolfy wrote:
 I 2nd that ! ChicoCyclist wrote:
For my ears, Porcupine Tree is the best rock band currently active.  Their music evolves, but it's always great.
 


 


Great ! We are all connected, no? On The Road
The soundtrack of my heart tonight. A painfully beautiful song.
For PT fans, SW will be touring the US with Blackfield in late Spring, in support of their new album: https://www.blackfield.org/live

AWESOME tune!
Sad and beautiful!

 I 2nd that ! ChicoCyclist wrote:
For my ears, Porcupine Tree is the best rock band currently active.  Their music evolves, but it's always great.
 


Nobody does busted up relationships better than Steven Wilson.

Can you imagine Steven Wilson working with Willie Nelson, Kris Kristoffersen, Steve Goodman, or John Prine?  I can.


Magnificent, very sad song. I see no-one below mentioned the beautiful guitar solo yet. So here's my two cents: the guitar solo is beautiful :-)
As an elder citizen, they touch the same pleasure centers as Pink Floyd. Nice !
These guys promote better synapsis and caress the soul while they are at it.
Agree with previous comment from GER - excellent music per usual. 
Nice set today!
 robco1 wrote:

Thanks, man! I saw both shows in Chicago, and also count myself among the blessed. I feel a little like one of those lucky bast___ who got to see another obscure English band back in '74 do something called "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway..." They'll probably never play the whole song cycle again, so this was really quite special.

We got Hatesong and Stars Die for part two of the show this second time around, and the final encore was Blackest Eyes and (of course) Trains.

 
The only time I saw Hatesong was at the Voodoo Chile Tour in New Orleans. Of course, it was from my computer but live is live and this was streaming. I had just purchased a top of the line Logitech 5.1 surround sound system and the whole family was out of the house so I got to crank it to the max. Which I did!

Great song by barefoot Steven and Co.{#High-five}

 Imkirok wrote:
A lot of interesting takes here on the meaning of this song.  From someone who tried to patch together a bad relationship for many years, here are my thoughts (for what it's worth): This song shows the lengths a person will go to to protect him/herself when things get bad and go beyond your control.  You lie to yourself, your friends and your family - deny that there is a problem.  You withdraw hoping things will change or magically get better.  You keep silent knowing that no matter what you say or do it will not change the other person and that silence is a powerful tool.  You realize that you made a mistake and now you are paying the price - a price that will haunt you for a long time.  You realize that the other person will blame you for his/her problems regardless of what you try to do to make it better.

I find this a terribly sad but truthful song.
 
I lived through the exact same situation, so the song does mean a lot to me as well.  Interestingly enough, another track on the album reminds me of the relationship as well - Remember Me Lover.  Here's an excerpt:

It's so hard to get along, I always know what you're going to say.
And this too, I hated you, I wish you learn to keep your mouth shut.

I've been through this with you about a hundred times.

Agree to disagree, start again with our lives.

And every single morning I wake up and you're still there, but tomorrow you will be alone and that is all you deserve.



 

 

And pride is just another way
Of trying to live with my mistakes
Denial is a better way
Of getting through another day
And silence is another way
Of saying what I wanna say
And lying is another way
Of hoping it will go away
And you we're always my mistake...



every time i hear a new song that really moves me on RP, it's by PT. wow. thanks, bill. 
 Imkirok wrote:
A lot of interesting takes here on the meaning of this song.  From someone who tried to patch together a bad relationship for many years, here are my thoughts (for what it's worth): This song shows the lengths a person will go to to protect him/herself when things get bad and go beyond your control.  You lie to yourself, your friends and your family - deny that there is a problem.  You withdraw hoping things will change or magically get better.  You keep silent knowing that no matter what you say or do it will not change the other person and that silence is a powerful tool.  You realize that you made a mistake and now you are paying the price - a price that will haunt you for a long time.  You realize that the other person will blame you for his/her problems regardless of what you try to do to make it better.

I find this a terribly sad but truthful song.
 
It's hard for me to listen to, for exactly those reasons. Otherwise, I like it.

Porcupine Tree takes love gone bad songs to new heights.

A lot of interesting takes here on the meaning of this song.  From someone who tried to patch together a bad relationship for many years, here are my thoughts (for what it's worth): This song shows the lengths a person will go to to protect him/herself when things get bad and go beyond your control.  You lie to yourself, your friends and your family - deny that there is a problem.  You withdraw hoping things will change or magically get better.  You keep silent knowing that no matter what you say or do it will not change the other person and that silence is a powerful tool.  You realize that you made a mistake and now you are paying the price - a price that will haunt you for a long time.  You realize that the other person will blame you for his/her problems regardless of what you try to do to make it better.

I find this a terribly sad but truthful song.
 Canlistener wrote:

We must have been beside each other, leaning on the rail just above stage level 30 feet from the stage.  A cold beer in my hand and PT blowing my mind on stage.  I actually met Colin Edwin and Richard Barbieri behind the venue earlier in the evening as Richard was having a smoke outside an open door.  Thanked them for the all music they've given us.  What a great venue for a show, $25 and 2 hours of musical bliss.  

Saw them Saturday in TO as well, another amazing show without some of the technical glitches of the Buffalo one. 
 
{#Notworthy}

Really great band, which I became aware of through listening to RP. I find this to be a beautiful track both musically and lyrically. Cheers! {#Cheers}
 horstman wrote:
Well read. Well stated.

I saw them in Buffalo this week. I was 30 feet away from the band at eye level. It was perhaps the best concert I've ever seen. They played "Buying New Soul" which is one of my favorites along with Stars Die and Mr. Wilson again has touched a nerve. He is such a great artist!

This is a great song "I Drive the Hearse" and really relates to Steven's loss of hope and the reconciliation of that loss. Again, my interpretation, but nonetheless a fitting end to a very emotional and powerful song cycle. If you saw them for the Incident Tour, you were very lucky. I saw them twice for this tour and count myself doubly blessed. They are such a powerful band and a joy to see live.

{#High-five}
 
We must have been beside each other, leaning on the rail just above stage level 30 feet from the stage.  A cold beer in my hand and PT blowing my mind on stage.  I actually met Colin Edwin and Richard Barbieri behind the venue earlier in the evening as Richard was having a smoke outside an open door.  Thanked them for the all music they've given us.  What a great venue for a show, $25 and 2 hours of musical bliss.  

Saw them Saturday in TO as well, another amazing show without some of the technical glitches of the Buffalo one. 
 horstman wrote:
Well read. Well stated.

I saw them in Buffalo this week. I was 30 feet away from the band at eye level. It was perhaps the best concert I've ever seen. They played "Buying New Soul" which is one of my favorites along with Stars Die and Mr. Wilson again has touched a nerve. He is such a great artist!

This is a great song "I Drive the Hearse" and really relates to Steven's loss of hope and the reconciliation of that loss. Again, my interpretation, but nonetheless a fitting end to a very emotional and powerful song cycle. If you saw them for the Incident Tour, you were very lucky. I saw them twice for this tour and count myself doubly blessed. They are such a powerful band and a joy to see live.

{#High-five}

 
Thanks, man! I saw both shows in Chicago, and also count myself among the blessed. I feel a little like one of those lucky bast___ who got to see another obscure English band back in '74 do something called "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway..." They'll probably never play the whole song cycle again, so this was really quite special.

We got Hatesong and Stars Die for part two of the show this second time around, and the final encore was Blackest Eyes and (of course) Trains.

 horstman wrote:

I could not find Drown with Me on any other CD/download, so that is why I bought this on the PT/Burningshed store. They played it live the first time I saw them in Albany in 2007 so that is why I was in dire need of it. So I believe that's 3 songs from this little album, or half the songs. More songs than Nils or CD 2 from the Incident, not a bad value for 5 pounds, I think.

It is probably worth a listen if you don't have it yet. Orchidia and Futile are very good songs. Futile is very strong. See ya.{#Wave}
 
Westslope,

They played "Buying New Soul" at the show in Buffalo and this was released only (to my knowledge) on Recordings. What a great surprise!!!!

Another album that unfortunately needs to be released again for the mass public.

Can you hear my request Steven?

 robco1 wrote:

Hmm. I think the "given cash I speak the truth" line is about the struggle an artist drawing from painful emotional experience has with making money from those experiences. "Silence is another way / of sayin' what I want to say" points out that the fact that the loss is too painful for him to speak of directly, and that kind of speaks for itself. Ultimately I think the song is about how you carry grief with you over the long term, and how it impacts your relationships and emotional state.

I could see passive-aggressive in the context of one of the ways the character is unconsciously sabotaging his relationships: I don't think "sleeping with my ball and chain" is referring to the one he's with but the one he lost.

"I drive the hearse" is one hell of a way of putting it. In a way I think Steven is touching on the cause for that high divorce rate. We are too conditioned to think we'll live happily ever after, say "I do" and run laughing from the church while they roll the closing credits. Marriage doesn't really work that way, does it? Well, neither does grief. You don't get over it, there is no such thing as closure, and some days you are going to find yourself back in that moment when you realized what was gone. Marriage takes commitment and work, and living with loss takes work too.

Bet you thought you were opening up an entirely different can of worms, didn't you? {#Wink}

This is all, by the way, only my opinion. I have no knowledge of Mr. Wilson's personal life or any idea how much of his writing comes from experience or imagination. But if you set out to deliberately write something that would get to me, you couldn't do much better than this song cycle. Great music can touch anyone through their own personal experiences, making the universal personal. I think this fits the bill.
  Well read. Well stated.

I saw them in Buffalo this week. I was 30 feet away from the band at eye level. It was perhaps the best concert I've ever seen. They played "Buying New Soul" which is one of my favorites along with Stars Die and Mr. Wilson again has touched a nerve. He is such a great artist!

This is a great song "I Drive the Hearse" and really relates to Steven's loss of hope and the reconciliation of that loss. Again, my interpretation, but nonetheless a fitting end to a very emotional and powerful song cycle. If you saw them for the Incident Tour, you were very lucky. I saw them twice for this tour and count myself doubly blessed. They are such a powerful band and a joy to see live.

{#High-five}

 jkhandy wrote:
"given cash I speak the truth."  "You were always my mistake."  "Silence is just another way, of saying what I have to say." 

Perfect example of most dysfunctional relationships with a passive aggressive male counterpart.  Sorry to hear it takes cash to speak the truth though.

50 percent of marriages in America end in divorce.  Wonder why.
 
Hmm. I think the "given cash I speak the truth" line is about the struggle an artist drawing from painful emotional experience has with making money from those experiences. "Silence is another way / of sayin' what I want to say" points out that the fact that the loss is too painful for him to speak of directly, and that kind of speaks for itself. Ultimately I think the song is about how you carry grief with you over the long term, and how it impacts your relationships and emotional state.

I could see passive-aggressive in the context of one of the ways the character is unconsciously sabotaging his relationships: I don't think "sleeping with my ball and chain" is referring to the one he's with but the one he lost.

"I drive the hearse" is one hell of a way of putting it. In a way I think Steven is touching on the cause for that high divorce rate. We are too conditioned to think we'll live happily ever after, say "I do" and run laughing from the church while they roll the closing credits. Marriage doesn't really work that way, does it? Well, neither does grief. You don't get over it, there is no such thing as closure, and some days you are going to find yourself back in that moment when you realized what was gone. Marriage takes commitment and work, and living with loss takes work too.

Bet you thought you were opening up an entirely different can of worms, didn't you? {#Wink}

This is all, by the way, only my opinion. I have no knowledge of Mr. Wilson's personal life or any idea how much of his writing comes from experience or imagination. But if you set out to deliberately write something that would get to me, you couldn't do much better than this song cycle. Great music can touch anyone through their own personal experiences, making the universal personal. I think this fits the bill.


"given cash I speak the truth."  "You were always my mistake."  "Silence is just another way, of saying what I have to say." 

Perfect example of most dysfunctional relationships with a passive aggressive male counterpart.  Sorry to hear it takes cash to speak the truth though.

50 percent of marriages in America end in divorce.  Wonder why.
 devilboy wrote:
You know Bill, I really like this song. But I've noticed you tend to play a lot of Porcupine Tree. Not that I mind, I'm just curious why?
 
Cuz Bill is such a sad, sad, melancholy guy.

oh, and its decent stuff

Queuing up Donovan's Happiness Runs as triage...

Have been listening to Porcupine Tree since the Delirium Years. This group has gone through many changes and styles and keep producing great music. You should check out some of their early stuff I think you will enjoy it as well!!
I heard Porcupine Tree the other night listening to Bill (a different song) ... I liked that other song and I like this one too!  Must go check out their album on Amazon. Radio Paradise: Constantly introducing me to great music!
You know Bill, I really like this song. But I've noticed you tend to play a lot of Porcupine Tree. Not that I mind, I'm just curious why?
Dark but hauntingly beautiful.
Wife likes this one.  Octane Twisted too which caught me by surprise.  But I believe she prefers the bonus CD to the Incident cycle CD.
From agony (Frank Black) to ecstasy (PT).  

This is very nice!!
My 3 year old loves this.  As does my wife and 15 year old and 13 year old.

They all have good taste.

This was first track on Incident to grab me.  I

"Silence is another way of saying what I want to say"
For my ears, Porcupine Tree is the best rock band currently active.  Their music evolves, but it's always great.
 westslope wrote:

horstman,

All of those songs on the Futile EP, except for two, are already available on other PT CDs, sometimes as bonus cuts.  Maybe I was looking at the incremental value to my PT portfolio?    Perhaps I should rephrase..... if one already owns all the CDs/DVDs from the period, one already has all but two of the songs on Futile:  Orchidia and Futile.  I thought both were a tad weak.  Maybe I should re-listen?

 


 
I could not find Drown with Me on any other CD/download, so that is why I bought this on the PT/Burningshed store. They played it live the first time I saw them in Albany in 2007 so that is why I was in dire need of it. So I believe that's 3 songs from this little album, or half the songs. More songs than Nils or CD 2 from the Incident, not a bad value for 5 pounds, I think.

It is probably worth a listen if you don't have it yet. Orchidia and Futile are very good songs. Futile is very strong. See ya.{#Wave}
 1wolfy wrote:
Hi Slope,  they are made by Image Coach in Indiana and Federal Coach Arkansas.  They go to Japan. westslope wrote:

Hey wolfie!  Cool.  Who makes them and which country buys them?

And here everybody thought the US manufacturing sector was dead.  Not by a long shot!


 

 
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horstman,

All of those songs on the Futile EP, except for two, are already available on other PT CDs, sometimes as bonus cuts.  Maybe I was looking at the incremental value to my PT portfolio?    Perhaps I should rephrase..... if one already owns all the CDs/DVDs from the period, one already has all but two of the songs on Futile:  Orchidia and Futile.  I thought both were a tad weak.  Maybe I should re-listen?

 


 westslope wrote:

In earlier days CD 2 might have become a stand-alone Extended Play (EP) like Nil Recurring or Futile (which I don't recommend, BTW).

I find enough similarity between CD 1 and CD 2 to play them sequentially and not really notice, except the building anticipation for the last two tracks on CD 2.  Curiously enough, I think the EP Nil Recurring prepares Porcupine Tree fans for the material on CD 1.



 
Futile is an awesome little album! Highly recommend regardless of what my good friend westslope thinks. Collapse, Drown with Me, Orchidea,Futile, Hatesong, and Chloroform! Drown with Me was played when I saw them live in Albany with Mr. Barefoot Steven on aucostic and it was so pure. Kinda like trains.

My opinion of course, but isn't that why we are here in the first place.

Take care slope and hi to wolfy and deadwing! Going to see these guys in Buffalo in May (so I'm not jealous of you any longer Deadwing! for seeing them again){#Group-hug}
wow. this is good.
{#Yes}{#Cheesygrin}{#Smile} westslope wrote:

Cool.  You might get a bump in demand soon from all those Toyota executives jumping off tall buildings.

 

Bad joke.


 


Cool.  You might get a bump in demand soon from all those Toyota executives jumping off tall buildings.

 

Bad joke.


Hi Slope,  they are made by Image Coach in Indiana and Federal Coach Arkansas.  They go to Japan. westslope wrote:

Hey wolfie!  Cool.  Who makes them and which country buys them?

And here everybody thought the US manufacturing sector was dead.  Not by a long shot!


 

 1wolfy wrote:
HEY,  they are playing my favorite band.....{#Daisy}...by the way, my job occasionally requires me to drive a hearse..I export them.

 

Hey wolfie!  Cool.  Who makes them and which country buys them?

And here everybody thought the US manufacturing sector was dead.  Not by a long shot!


Does it get anymore cathartic than this?

Fabulous CD.  The bonus CD is as good or better.


HEY,  they are playing my favorite band.....{#Daisy}...by the way, my job occasionally requires me to drive a hearse..I export them.

 ambrebalte wrote:
Some days, like today, when I feel very sad, after an hour trying to describe how slowly censorship is invading again everything, here, when the lack of vision justifies the call for morality, when it is not about morality but power, war, economy, and I fail., I have no hope
Somehow hearing this song brings comfort
 
Good to be moved...these lyrics make me sad happy...respect {#Hug}
...disc one is the album, the incident; disc two is merely a collection of bonus tracks...
 ambrebalte wrote:
Some days, like today, when I feel very sad, after an hour trying to describe how slowly censorship is invading again everything, here, when the lack of vision justifies the call for morality, when it is not about morality but power, war, economy, and I fail., I have no hope
Somehow hearing this song brings comfort
  That is a great interpretation for the song: "silence is another way/ of sayin' what I want to say..."

Great music speaks to fundamental human truths.

Keep the faith! {#Wave}


 horstman wrote:

This is true Westslope, but somehow disc 2 feels disconnected from the first CD. It has its own feel and appeal but is comes off (at least for me) as an afterthought, or more pointedly like the stuff the band did, felt was important but wanted separate from the Incident song and its 14 subsongs. Kinda like Nils Recurring except that it is a gift with the Incident, rather than a bonus that we have to pay for later.

 

In earlier days CD 2 might have become a stand-alone Extended Play (EP) like Nil Recurring or Futile (which I don't recommend, BTW).

I find enough similarity between CD 1 and CD 2 to play them sequentially and not really notice, except the building anticipation for the last two tracks on CD 2.  Curiously enough, I think the EP Nil Recurring prepares Porcupine Tree fans for the material on CD 1.



 westslope wrote:

It is the last song on 1st CD.  There are 4 more songs on the 2nd CD.

 
This is true Westslope, but somehow disc 2 feels disconnected from the first CD. It has its own feel and appeal but is comes off (at least for me) as an afterthought, or more pointedly like the stuff the band did, felt was important but wanted separate from the Incident song and its 14 subsongs. Kinda like Nils Recurring except that it is a gift with the Incident, rather than a bonus that we have to pay for later.

 Deadwing wrote:
{#Guitarist}
 
{#Drummer}

Some days, like today, when I feel very sad, after an hour trying to describe how slowly censorship is invading again everything, here, when the lack of vision justifies the call for morality, when it is not about morality but power, war, economy, and I fail., I have no hope
Somehow hearing this song brings comfort
 Leslie wrote:
The last song of The Incident cycle. A perfect ending to a perfect album.
 
It is the last song on 1st CD.  There are 4 more songs on the 2nd CD.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Got my hopes up, for a minute.

 
, Scott.

I have this CD in hand and shall release it from its shrinkwrap prison in a few moments...


 Leslie wrote:
The last song of The Incident cycle. A perfect ending to a perfect album.
 
Got my hopes up, for a minute.

The last song of The Incident cycle. A perfect ending to a perfect album.
{#Guitarist}
 robco1 wrote:
Get. This. Album.

 
I just did. Incredible. Amazing. Simply sublime. Love this song.

Get. This. Album.

Hauntingly beautiful
Absolutely beautiful song.
i've totally gotten into PT because of RP. spectacular music. wish sometimes for some sunnier lyrics but accept it for what it is.