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Doves — Kingdom of Rust
Album: Kingdom of Rust
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Released: 2009
Length: 5:04
Plays (last 30 days): 1
I hear a sound
A sound above my head
Distant sound of thunder
Moving out on the moor

Blackbirds flew in
Into the cooling towers
I'll pack my bags
Thinking of one of those hours
With you
Waiting for you

My god
It takes an ocean of trust
In the Kingdom of Rust

I long to feel
Some beauty in my heart
As I go searching
Right to the start

The road back to Preston
Was covered all in snow
As I went looking
For that stolen heart
For you
Waiting for you

My god
It takes an ocean of trust
Takes an effort, it does
My god
It takes an ocean of trust
It's in the Kingdom of Rust

In the Kingdom of Rust

I long to feel
That wince in my heart
As I went looking
I couldn't stop
Now I'm
Waiting for you

I know
It takes an ocean of trust
In the Kingdom of Rust
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and straight to the .mp3 cart in the first  1:30

something new for the commute random play shuffle
Doves on RP...... YESSSS!!!!!
Love the Doves I'll come visit
One of the best bands most people never heard of.
The list: Porcupine Tree, Catherine Wheel, Belly, Doves...  a few others - bands that the muggles are unaware of - don't tell them!
Yeah. I get it. 
very enjoyable..
Underrated band, their music really hits me in the right spot
Love it!
{#Dance}
 finoufk wrote:
everytime I plug on RP, I hear this song (very good by the way). Coincidence ? Plot ? CIA ?  let's think....{#Stop}

 
Could be! I logged in here two days ago and heard it. Here it is again. 
Doves peaked on this CD - 4-5 killer tunes!
Amazing song! {#Music}



                     
                         Released in 2009.
                   Wonder if the band THE EDITORS  had heard this before they did the far superior, 'PHONE BOOK' in 2013.




                                   



everytime I plug on RP, I hear this song (very good by the way). Coincidence ? Plot ? CIA ?  let's think....{#Stop}
 justin4kick wrote:

That's the rust creeping in.

 
There's that droll European humor again.
 CHuLoYo wrote:

What are you talking about?

in my opinion,an 8 transforming in a 9 to this song
 
He's right though. Heard it once, it sounds like one of those sounds Windows is making when something utterly unimportant has just happened and you absolutely need to be aware of it. Guess it is just some weird sound effect though.
 richlister wrote:

10000

 
>10^6 
Great band that loses me, again, with awful lead vocals.  See, cleverly followed by R.E.M., you could say why does this guy annoy whereas Stipe doesn't?  Who knows, it's probably those long, drawn out, dreary flats I suppose.  I just don't like it and a whole album would wind me up.  Like Martin does with Coldplay.  I can't help it, sorry boys.
 scottc wrote:
I listen to this on YouTube sometimes also and I hear the same both on RP and there:  What is that "pop-up-like" noise?  You can hear it a few times in the song.

Thanks. 

 
That's the rust creeping in.
 twoplain2sea wrote:
I agree  to a T, it's hard to explain waiting could convey positive emotions.
                    (Specially,  when I'm the who is running.)

 
I thought it was a break-up song..
I agree  to a T, it's hard to explain waiting could convey positive emotions.
                    (Specially,  when I'm the who is running.)
Weak lyrics on this one. {#Yawn}
 scottc wrote:
I listen to this on YouTube sometimes also and I hear the same both on RP and there:  What is that "pop-up-like" noise?  You can hear it a few times in the song.

Thanks. 

 
What are you talking about?

in my opinion,an 8 transforming in a 9 to this song

 garrettb wrote:

Copy & pasted from Rdio:

Before embracing Brit-pop in the late '90s, Doves' three members — vocalist/bassist Jimi Goodwin, guitarist Jez Williams, and drummer Andy Williams — figured prominently in the Madchester scene,...

 
But what does that have to do with our beloved Stingray?
 Proclivities wrote:

I believe Stingray is German; whatever nationality he is, he's definitely not American.

 
Copy & pasted from Rdio:

Before embracing Brit-pop in the late '90s, Doves' three members — vocalist/bassist Jimi Goodwin, guitarist Jez Williams, and drummer Andy Williams — figured prominently in the Madchester scene, where they scored a Top Five single as part of the dance combo Sub Sub. "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" peaked at number three in the U.K., but Sub Sub failed to produce any significant follow-up hits, and a fire destroyed their recording studio in February 1995. After taking several years to restructure their sound, the musicians reappeared in 1998 as Doves, whose sweeping pop/rock material owed more to the Verve and Radiohead than Sub Sub's club-oriented peers.

Doves debuted in October 1998 with the Cedar EP, which sold out of its limited pressing and paved the way for the musicians' association with Badly Drawn Boy (who employed them as his backing band on several singles). Doves released two additional EPs, Sea and Here It Comes, before signing a European contract with Heavenly Records, the venerable London-based label that had recently scored a hit with Beth Orton. Heavenly issued Doves' full-length debut, Lost Souls, in April 2000, while an American release followed in October via the Astralwerks label. Marrying traces of Sub Sub's danceable past with an emphasis on live pop/rock instrumentation, Lost Souls earned a nomination for the Mercury Prize — which the band ironically lost to Badly Drawn Boy — and spawned three Top 40 singles in the U.K. By 2001, the band's American representation had been upgraded to Capitol Records, and Doves returned to the U.K. charts one year later with The Last Broadcast. The sophomore album debuted atop the charts in England and, like its predecessor, climbed to platinum status, propelled in part by the number three single "There Goes the Fear."

While assembling their third album, Some Cities, Doves retreated to the English countryside and took up residence in a number of cottages, churches, and intimate recording studios. Although conceived far away from the band's native Manchester, Some Cities still sported an urban tone, and the album climbed to number one during its first week of release. Doves' audience was further expanded through a number of touring efforts, some of which saw the band opening for the likes of U2, Oasis, and Coldplay. Several years later, Doves once again decamped to more rural surroundings — this time to the agricultural community of Cheshire, England, where they set up shop in a converted farmhouse — to record another album. Kingdom of Rust was ultimately released in April 2009, followed by a greatest hits album one year later. ~ Andrew Leahey

 
This song just flows *so* nicely.
Bumping it one little notch (up) after not having heard it for a while. Cheers! {#Cheers}
 Stingray wrote:
Kingdom of Rust...?

Are they talking about AMERICA? 

 
 stunix wrote:

textbook American paranoia.

 
I believe Stingray is German; whatever nationality he is, he's definitely not American.
I listen to this on YouTube sometimes also and I hear the same both on RP and there:  What is that "pop-up-like" noise?  You can hear it a few times in the song.

Thanks. 
 Skydog wrote:
Average rating so far is 7.4.
I don't mean to be mean but isn't that a bit high? 

  yes I guess so. 5.
Average rating so far is 7.4.
I don't mean to be mean but isn't that a bit high? 
Superb song.
 stunix wrote:

textbook American paranoia.

 
haha!
I hope these guys get back in the studio soon.  The Black Rivers album was great, but I am really looking forward to hearing the full band back together.  
 Stingray wrote:
Kingdom of Rust...?

Are they talking about AMERICA? 

 
textbook American paranoia.
Great song {#Dance}{#Bananasplit}
Kingdom of Rust...?

Are they talking about AMERICA? 
 MinMan wrote:

The bass line on this tune sounds to me like a reference to spaghetti western - I can just see 'em riding across some desert filled with cactus and sage brush.



 
"You had me at spaghetti."

(From the James Franco roast on Comedy Central)

Definite 10 tune though. 
It's such a fantastic tune. Especially when you are on the road in UK {#Motor} 
 gillespp wrote:

1000.

 
10000
 jagdriver wrote:
I rate this one a 100.

 
1000.
Doves rule.
I rate this one a 100.
 Piranga wrote:
On my Top 10 CDs of all time list.

 
Most definitely a central part of the Desert Island collection.


(And thanks to solar-powered MP3 players with 256GB capacity, that collection can now be FAR larger than in the past.)
The best!
gets better every time!
2---one better than jazz
yup - still a 10  {#Dancingbanana}
Good!
MinMan wrote:

The bass line on this tune sounds to me like a reference to spaghetti western - I can just see 'em riding across some desert filled with cactus and sage brush.

 
Byronape responded:

This song was used very well in Zombieland as the cast drove into a post-zombie apocalyptic LA.  

Come to think of it, that movie had a ton of great songs in it.  It isn't often when the wife and I can sit down and watch a movie for the first time and shout out the names of the songs playing in the background.  

Speaking of my wife and Zombieland... She got me a copy of the movie for V-day.  That's love right there, none of that romantic and lovey crap.  Blood, gore, humor, and a hot chick fighting zombies.   

 

Having just passed St V Day, I just had to resurrect Byronape's comment.


Get the CD.  Great road music.
 properties wrote:
super song.  I went and bought it off of iTunes

 
I recommend the entire album. Doves still make (made?) albums with songs that cohere as a set. It should be possible to find this used as a CD (at least at Amoeba in Berkeley I see copies frequently) for a song, or two. Then go out and get their other albums. They work better in sequence than as stand-alone songs. Of course, I really enjoy hearing them pop up on RP.
super song.  I went and bought it off of iTunes

The Doves

The band comprises brothers Jez Williams (guitar, vocals) and Andy Williams (drums, vocals), and Jimi Goodwin (bass, vocals, guitar).Doves' unofficial fourth member is Martin Rebelski, who plays keyboards.

¿Qué ha sido de este grupo? ¿Dónde os habéis metido, si se puede saber? Lo digo porque me encantaba vuestra música y ahora echo de menos saber que planeáis nuevo disco...

No sé si ha sido por problemas personales, profesionales, el caso es que no se sabe nada de esta genial banda, cuyos discos a mí me parecían sensacionales. Ojalá que sólo estén pasando un mal bache, y en no mucho tiempo tengamos noticias de The Doves.

Porque yo hecho de menos la voz cálida de Jez, los sonidos envolventes de sus canciones, la contundencia de la batería... En fin, no quisiera que se os olvide así como así, porque recuerdo que cuando les ví en Benicàssim hace unos añitos, pensé que estaba ante un gran grupo; un grupo con un futuro más allá de las modas.

This photo was taken on February 9, 2009.

Copyright All rights reserved
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solid as a rock
 ploba wrote:
What is it about this song?   It's so ....so....haunting.  So beautiful.

 
the old C&W hook, probably
And another 8 to 9. I play loads of Doves at home and hear loads more here. Coincidence? Likely not


 
What is it about this song?   It's so ....so....haunting.  So beautiful.
This is a great sample of a fantastic album.
 Vaxhall wrote:
Just seat, just turn this song on, just drive. Amazing!{#Motor}

 

{#Yes}{#Daisy}


On my Top 10 CDs of all time list.
Just seat, just turn this song on, just drive. Amazing!{#Motor}
I love the part where the guitar kicks into high gear . . . 
 mrtuba9 wrote:

{#Ass} (o)(o) {#Ass} (o)(o) {#Ass} (o)(o) {#Ass} (o)(o) , etc?

 
Spot on! {#Clap}
Man I am liking this song!  {#Guitarist}
The singer sounds very emotionally uninvolved with the song.  He is very close to mumbling the words, and it ruins the song for me.
 jagdriver wrote:
9 > 10

 
Yeah!
9 > 10
 ploba wrote:
from an 8 to a 9...this song just does it to me!

 
Ha ha I just did exactly the same thing! It's a GREAT song.

{#Idea}  Idea: Instead of a "Sucko-Barfo" rating, they could have a "Sounds like Kingdom of Rust" rating?


from an 8 to a 9...this song just does it to me!
freakin love this song. 
Hot sh*t!
I cannot get enough of this song!
 jt1 wrote:


I've heard very little from Doves...but based on this song I think I should correct that fact.
 
All three albums are AWESOME....

go in chronological order and you can pretend you found them when they were new and hip

:)

 
Thanks RP. Closing my office door now...raising the volume...
 johncartlidge wrote:
Yeah! 

Poacher wrote:
Bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, etc, etc.

Excellent 
 
 

What's wrong with a little bum titty bum. Nothing!
..meh
Yeah! 

Poacher wrote:
Bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, etc, etc.

Excellent 
 


Good CD.

 

This CD gets me moving in my chair or vehicle seat.


Wow! And RP is playing 8 of 11 tracks...must be quite a collection.
 sirdroseph wrote:
Yea, I am ready for this band to go away. Wish em the best, just please no more.{#No}
 
you're so mean...
{#Drummer}{#Guitarist}chair dancing
 Poacher wrote:
Bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, etc, etc.

Excellent 
 
{#Ass} (o)(o) {#Ass} (o)(o) {#Ass} (o)(o) {#Ass} (o)(o) , etc?
                                                                            {#Daisy}
 ziakut wrote:
I have liked everything I've heard so far from Doves.
 

I've heard very little from Doves...but based on this song I think I should correct that fact.
Big Doves fan, but I didn't care too much for this album at the time.  After hearing a couple of these songs on RP I've grown to like them a lot more.  Still their weakest album, I feel, but definitely a few great songs.
Bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, titty bum, etc, etc.

Excellent 
Really enjoying the whole CD.
I have liked everything I've heard so far from Doves.
decent. bitchyscott it, though.
{#Yes}
 kingart wrote:
Some echoes of Ghost Riders in the Sky. 
  Cool!  I hear it — that song haunted my childhood — I'd look up at storm clouds gathering and imagine the sound of thundering hoof beats and conjure the masses of clouds into the shapes of massive horses galloping across the sky.  


 kingart wrote:
Some echoes of Ghost Riders in the Sky. 
  
I hear it
{#Bananajam}
 kingart wrote:
Some echoes of Ghost Riders in the Sky. 
 

nice !
Some echoes of Ghost Riders in the Sky. 
This is the only venue where I have ever heard Doves. This is a good thing. Fortunately (or not, for the finances of the band), all their CDs are cheap and abundant in used condition. They really create aural landscapes (maybe an earlier poster noted this) that don't sound much like those of any other band. I also was shaken alert hearing this in Zombieland (my teen age daughter heard me playing this yesterday and pointed out that it played in the movie; good for extra credit). Why does this band get so overlooked?
 MinMan wrote:

The bass line on this tune sounds to me like a reference to spaghetti western - I can just see 'em riding across some desert filled with cactus and sage brush.

 
This song was used very well in Zombieland as the cast drove into a post-zombie apocalyptic LA.  

Come to think of it, that movie had a ton of great songs in it.  It isn't often when the wife and I can sit down and watch a movie for the first time and shout out the names of the songs playing in the background.  

Speaking of my wife and Zombieland... She got me a copy of the movie for V-day.  That's love right there, none of that romantic and lovey crap.  Blood, gore, humor, and a hot chick fighting zombies.   
*Soundscapes*,a good word,maxgruv ! {#Lol} I totally agree.

that´s what sucko-barfo means! one of the most horrible songs ever played here.
what a really nice sound

The bass line on this tune sounds to me like a reference to spaghetti western - I can just see 'em riding across some desert filled with cactus and sage brush.


This album grows on me more every time I hear it. Fantastic soundscapes! Thanks for getting me addicted, RP. {#Notworthy}
Radioparadise - only positive music! In my music library, created a folder "Light" and add performers through Radioparadise, Slideshow fine. My favorite radio. Thank you very much!
 fredriley wrote:

It's not often that Preston gets a mention outside football (soccer, to you lot over the Pond) circles. Nothing wrong with the town AFAIK, it's just one of those places that rarely appears on anyone's radar. Or maybe he's singing about another Preston other than the Lancashire version, as according to Wikipedia there are an awful lot of Prestons around the world...

 

Well, there is Preston, Idaho, home of Napoleon Dynamite.
 Synth80s wrote:
 
Your comment is severly undermined by the fact that you have given 1 ratings to the likes of Iggy Pop, Led Zepellin, The Decemberists, David Bowie, Joni Mitchell, The Kinks, Peter Gabriel, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., Dave Matthews Band, Tori Amos, Coldplay, Metric, Massive Attack, Cowboy Junkies, Arcade Fire, Neville Brothers, Depeche Mode and many others.

No, Doves aren't going anywhere.

 

I have also given countless 10s to the great Zep, old REM, Bowie. My positive ratings also outnumber my negative by over 3 to 1. I like what I like and do not like what I do not. I am honest in this assessment and it is purely my own. There is no such thing as being undermined by one's personal opinion of a song. You have no credibility by trying to do so. As for the other bands you mentioned, well, jah, they suck.......IMO.{#Wink}
Lovely.
 sirdroseph wrote:
Yea, I am ready for this band to go away. Wish em the best, just please no more.{#No}
  
Your comment is severly undermined by the fact that you have given 1 ratings to the likes of Iggy Pop, Led Zepellin, The Decemberists, David Bowie, Joni Mitchell, The Kinks, Peter Gabriel, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., Dave Matthews Band, Tori Amos, Coldplay, Metric, Massive Attack, Cowboy Junkies, Arcade Fire, Neville Brothers, Depeche Mode and many others.

No, Doves aren't going anywhere.

Yea, I am ready for this band to go away. Wish em the best, just please no more.{#No}
 Bazooka wrote:

An adjective of pain rather than a declaration...I Think:

The road back to Preston

 
It's not often that Preston gets a mention outside football (soccer, to you lot over the Pond) circles. Nothing wrong with the town AFAIK, it's just one of those places that rarely appears on anyone's radar. Or maybe he's singing about another Preston other than the Lancashire version, as according to Wikipedia there are an awful lot of Prestons around the world...

 calypsus_1 wrote:
.....

¿Qué ha sido de este grupo? ¿Dónde os habéis metido, si se puede saber? Lo digo porque me encantaba vuestra música y ahora echo de menos saber que planeáis nuevo disco...

No sé si ha sido por problemas personales, profesionales, o de drogas... el caso es que no se sabe nada de esta genial banda, cuyos discos a mí me parecían sensacionales. Ojalá que sólo estén pasando un mal bache, y en no mucho tiempo tengamos noticias de The Doves.

Porque yo hecho de menos la voz cálida de Jez, los sonidos envolventes de sus canciones, la contundencia de la batería... En fin, no quisiera que se os olvide así como así, porque recuerdo que cuando les ví en Benicàssim hace unos añitos, pensé que estaba ante un gran grupo; un grupo con un futuro más allá de las modas.

....


 
Sweet.  As fan letters go, it doesn't get any more supportive and tender than this.  

 vicariance wrote:
This song reaches right into my heart and tosses it like a frisbee.

Is that necessarily a good thing?  Aren't you worried about a dog catching your heart in its mouth and running off with it or getting it stuck in a tree? 


here is what i read about the splitting up rumor at their website.  https://forums.doves.net/viewtopic.php?t=16052&start=0

 rmmartins wrote:
9, I simply absolutely love this album. 

But, wait, they band is over? 
 


 rmmartins wrote:
9, I simply absolutely love this album. 

But, wait, they band is over? 
 
Indefinite hiatus is what has been reported elsewhere.

you said it! same here...

 vicariance wrote:
This song reaches right into my heart and tosses it like a frisbee.
 


9, I simply absolutely love this album. 

But, wait, they band is over? 
This song reaches right into my heart and tosses it like a frisbee.
This morning in the car I heard another Doves song on XM and the deejay said she thought they were one of the most underrated bands in the last decade. I missed RP's message board to agree wholeheartedly, so this was convenient timing. The deejay said to check out their catalog but failed to mention their greatest hits double CD: The Places Between. Substandard production, but great songs.
 k_trout wrote:
Lyrics help please.....

"My God seeks an ocean of trust"  (is this correct?)
 
An adjective of pain rather than a declaration...I Think:

The road back to Preston
Was covered all in snow
So I went looking
For that stolen heart
For you
Waiting for you

My god
It takes an ocean of trust
Takes an effort, it does
My god
It takes an ocean of trust

https://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858762076/

 raelic wrote:

This is easily proven wrong since noone ever listed to Ben Folds Five.  Your honour, I rest my case.

 
You would be wrong on that count though. {#Snooty}

There are similarities to Mess though, still a great song mind...