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Muse — Map of the Problematique
Album: Black Holes and Revelations
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Released: 2006
Length: 4:15
Plays (last 30 days): 3
Fear and panic in the air
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
And I feel like everything I sow
Is being swept away
Well I refuse to let you go

I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you

Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?

Life will flash before my eyes
So scattered and lost
I want to touch the other side
And no-one thinks they are to blame
Why can't we see
That when we bleed, we bleed the same

I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you

Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?
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Thanks to the 'loudness war' obsession, a recording like this is unlistenable. I hear distortion on it throughout and that is completely unnecessary.
Indeed. I have to completely, totally and utterly agree with fredriley.
To say that MUSE lacks imagination is total bullshit.

fredriley wrote:

Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.

Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
 

Always thought I should support our 'local' band... They originate a few miles from us.

Never quite made it. Kinda blows hot-n-cold. Right now I've wound up the volume and am loving it.
Funny, 12 years ago (!!!) I posted a comment that was me trying to figure out if this was good or not.  Not much later, I got the album, and was blown away.  This album is prog and flat out incredible.  Their subsequent albums slowly started to pander to the pop/dub step style and I lost interest.  But this album is pure genius. 
If only they didn't steal the motifs and riffs from other artists...
Among the best groove-masters out there!
New2Radio. UOrderHead.
Could be new names of this band that sounds like a supergroup.

I was listening without paying attention who it was.
I have to admit I thought it was new U2...with a bigger edge.
They do know how to rawk pretty good!
 khardog145 wrote:
Overproduced and the vocals are melodramatic!  There's an echo in here.
 
Yep.  I like Muse in limited quantities, but every song is so over the top.  More so on their newer albums - they seem to be relying too much on the groaning voices and anthemic beats to carry the songs.
Crank it up! Can't wait to see them in concert this spring in MontrĂ©al
 
An obvious Depeche Mode melodic reference but still a superb track and brilliant live too. 
Choosing the right music to accompany a video or film is very important - here is a perfect example of a guy called Jean Yves Blondeau rocketing down the Grimselpass in Switzerland on what is little more than a skateboard strapped to his chest.

Whatever you all think of this Muse song you have got to agree that it goes with the craziness of what you are about to see...


https://youtu.be/sx0s-92tXqo

Enjoy the spectacle and the music together and marvel at what it means to be alive!

 
Average song
 okelle wrote:
I'll second that.


 

Overproduced and the vocals are melodramatic!  There's an echo in here.
Sounds a lot like U2 to me.  I'd say "pretty good."
This song is pretty great to listen to when finishing up your work day {#Drummer}
 nicknt wrote:
Overproduced and boring. For me, an overrated band.

 
Yep, pure suck.
 
We know that Bill digs guitars, so why don't we hear any King Crimson (Discipline), which is full of Fripp and Belew??
bump ... bump ... bump
Muse always forces me to bump the volume on RP. Just can't get enough.
reminds me of u2. arena schlock
skip!
Overproduced and boring. For me, an overrated band.
Vivaldi to Muse. That was brilliant, Bill
Yes, I'm in the minority, but my god, this is just so bad, and because I'm steaming thru my AV deck,I don't have a PSD button to press.  Horror of horrors!  This is just about the only RP tune that provokes me to hit"mute" or change channels.

Oh bummer, I just sicked up on myself...again.  Are there any other songs on the album...that might not trigger such distaste?
Very low energy music. Soporific. Where's Stockhausen when you need him?

 
 baylees wrote:
WIN    l segway from Vivaldi .....  I'm OK with this.   Love the tom-tom drum beat, emotion of the singer the synth and e guitar  AND a good old PIANO.

 
 DrLex wrote:

segue = a seamless transition between songs.

SegwaySegway (and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.)

 
Vivaldi probably did not, but Joseph Haydn is believed to have had a segway; according to legend, he found it in some overgrown hedges behind Galileo's gazebo.
Really nice set Bill.
Yeah that was a great transition, really great tonight
 DrLex wrote:

segue = a seamless transition between songs.

SegwaySegway (and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.)

 

Not a segway but also on wheels going down the Gotthard mountain. Muse fits wonderfully in this spectacular clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx0s-92tXqo 
 baylees wrote:
WIN    l segway from Vivaldi .....  I'm OK with this.   Love the tom-tom drum beat, emotion of the singer the synth and e guitar  AND a good old PIANO.
 
segue = a seamless transition between songs.

SegwaySegway (and I'm pretty sure Vivaldi didn't have one.)
 pankman wrote:
Oh no, not this theatrical crap! {#Stop}

 
Well, it is. You're right. They are masters of ripping other artists off. This particular song, while good, has direct elements of Enjoy the silence by Depeche Mode.

Then again, this is their best and *only* good album, as far as I'm concerned.
WIN    l segway from Vivaldi .....  I'm OK with this.   Love the tom-tom drum beat, emotion of the singer the synth and e guitar  AND a good old PIANO.
Oh no, not this theatrical crap! {#Stop}
 lkovathana wrote:
Love Muse.  Better heard blasted through your car stereo driving through a mountain road at 3:30 am

 
Yes, always!!
"And now for something completely different"...
dios Mio!!! 
Love Muse.  Better heard blasted through your car stereo driving through a mountain road at 3:30 am
Very good Bill, play more Muse. They belong here too! 
I love all the different comments about this song, both the for and against were interesting enough for me to make it though listening to this lame thang.
 Proclivities wrote:

Not that I care much for or about this band, but there are easily thousands of things more baneful than "Muse's lack of creative thought" in the first fifteen years of this millennium. 

 
Completely agree.  So much in fact that it's pretty clear that Muse's rehashmoism is a rehash of the New Milenium's rehashmo.

It just gets worse every time I hear it — straight up vomitrocious.  My PSD button didn't do what I hoped, that it would actually play something different, but at least the chundering vocals eventually end, phew!
We used to call (lovingly) this kind of music PAR..Pretentious Art Rock. Older examples would include Yes, King Crimson and Gentle Giant. I think it is great someone is doing it again. Hell even the band name fits the mold. Good stuff. Will listen to more.  {#Bananapiano}
 S-curvy wrote:

...Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium...

 
Not that I care much for or about this band, but there are easily thousands of things more baneful than "Muse's lack of creative thought" in the first fifteen years of this millennium. 
helluva segue Bill....Love me some Muse...especially after some Vivaldi...


I'd rather hear Radar Love again.
 S-curvy wrote:

Fred, clearly we each focus on different aspects of music.  I don't often have the lyrics available, so it is indeed the music, not the lyrics, that I am referring to when I call their music or their "sound" derivative.  Now that I think about it, I may have been trying to be kind when I compared Muse to New Order's considerable talent, because it was some of the really atrocious mid-80's dance club flash-in-the-pain bands who already paved Muse's musical path.  Sadly, that sound is so damn off-putting that I can't listen long enough to make out the lyrics; I guess I should just stick to reading the real books that they're singing aria's about.

Proof:  Freddy has now proven he is a Muse fanboy.

 
Fair enough. I feel much the same about The Who - I can barely tolerate two notes before I PSD or mute or jump out of a high window. Muse is for sure bombastic and overblown, perhaps to a similar degree that Queen was. I was a New Order fan so I find it hard to put the two into the same genre, not least because you could dance to NO.

I think I might be a bit on the, erm, senior side to be a "fanboy" of anything, other than good beer and whiskey :*)

A bheil thu a' fuireach air an Eilean Sgitheanach?
 fredriley wrote:

Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.

Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.

 
Fred, clearly we each focus on different aspects of music.  I don't often have the lyrics available, so it is indeed the music, not the lyrics, that I am referring to when I call their music or their "sound" derivative.  Now that I think about it, I may have been trying to be kind when I compared Muse to New Order's considerable talent, because it was some of the really atrocious mid-80's dance club flash-in-the-pain bands who already paved Muse's musical path.  Sadly, that sound is so damn off-putting that I can't listen long enough to make out the lyrics; I guess I should just stick to reading the real books that they're singing aria's about.

Proof:  Freddy has now proven he is a Muse fanboy.
I love these guys in small dosages {#Biggrin}
I think I'll go watch basketball.
 S-curvy wrote:

Agreed.  This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought.  Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity.  Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music.  Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....

Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium

 
Oh, come on! Muse can, accurately, be called bombastic, OTT, de trop, or whatever adjective you want to use for full-on in-yer-face rock, but "lack of creative thought" is just plain wrong. All the songs in this album explore science-fiction concepts, astrophysics ("Super massive black hole"), and the loneliness of the long-distance space traveller. The Resistance was explicitly about Orwell's 1984.

Overblown, sure, and you can love 'em or loathe 'em, but to accuse them of lack of imagination is bonkers and demonstrably false.
more energetic version of radiohead
 mauguima wrote:

I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.

FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.




 
Actually the "diva" qualities (and to some extent the qualities of vocals) of the singer remind me of other leads, in this case, Dennis DeYoung, formerly of Styx and the late, great Freddie Mercury. To be sure he's not of the same level as Mercury, but there's a lot of potential there, from what I hear.  
Makes me wanna put on my running shoes and go out... run Forrest RUN!!!! {#Motor}
 mauguima wrote:

I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.

FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.




 
What a cool word is "anodyne". Fits usually.
 DavidS_UK wrote:

You must have loved the bland, anodyne wailing of Tori Amos who followed then!
As the man said in the post below, it rocks, deal with it :-)

PS - Seems this is one of those 'Marmite' bands that people love or hate, yet so far it isn't a double peak in the chart...



 
I agree that the band (without the singer) rocks in a way. But, no, the singer, he wants to be a diva, not a rocker. He want's to show his vocal extension, tries to be super emotional, which to my ears sounds quite the opposite, emotionless. He would fit better to be a contester in American Idol. Which is totally fair, just not for my taste.

FWI I barelly know Tori Amos, not my kind of music either.



{#Drummer} {#Guitarist}
 mauguima wrote:
For a breaf moment I thought it was Depeche Mode. But it's just the crying-their-misery guys. This singer is unbearable. Too melodramatic for my taste.

 
You must have loved the bland, anodyne wailing of Tori Amos who followed then!
As the man said in the post below, it rocks, deal with it :-)

PS - Seems this is one of those 'Marmite' bands that people love or hate, yet so far it isn't a double peak in the chart...


It rocks. Deal with it.
Emphatic and empty ... full boredom.
For a breaf moment I thought it was Depeche Mode. But it's just the crying-their-misery guys. This singer is unbearable. Too melodramatic for my taste.
I feel fuzzy {#Guitarist}
There is a place for Muse, generally at a Muse concert in the middle of nowhere.   Impressive sounding music and great live, but not too often.
Uhg, I'm not feeling well ... Again!
{#Motor}{#Yell}
 S-curvy wrote:

Agreed.  This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought.  Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity.  Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music.  Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....

Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium:  Musical rehashes, musical mash-ups, dubbed/sampled music (i.e., Hip-Hop) endless movie remakes, endless movie renditions of 50's & 60's comic books, pathetically nostalgic car designs, interior designs that are convinced that now and the future look like 1950's Americana, and Tea Party politicians who really want America to behave like 1920's America.  Viva la Regression, Down with progress!

 

{#Yes}
 sirdroseph wrote:


NO no no no no no no.{#No}Please refrain from equating this band with Queen.{#Naughty}

 
fredriley really tooted Muse's horn and compared them to Queen.  Could Freddy be a fanboy?


 nicknt wrote:
A pompous song from a highly overrated band.

 
Agreed.  This reminds me of a bombastic version of New Order, without the fresh edge/angst that those guys brought.  Just another New Millennium over-produced derivative band in search of creativity.  Everything of Muse's that I have heard has been a lame deja vu of much better music.  Harsh words, I know, but I think this is my 1st 1-rating....

Muse's lack of creative thought seems to be the bane of the New Millenium:  Musical rehashes, musical mash-ups, dubbed/sampled music (i.e., Hip-Hop) endless movie remakes, endless movie renditions of 50's & 60's comic books, pathetically nostalgic car designs, interior designs that are convinced that now and the future look like 1950's Americana, and Tea Party politicians who really want America to behave like 1920's America.  Viva la Regression, Down with progress!
 cShaggy wrote:
"Map Of The Problematique"

Fear and panic in the air
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
And I feel like everything I sow
Is being swept away
Well I refuse to let you go

I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you

Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over

Life will flash before my eyes
So scattered and lost
I want to touch the other side
And no one thinks they are to blame
Why can't we see
That when we bleed we bleed the same

I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you

Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over


Thanks to Chris for adding these lyrics.
Thanks to Camille, derek.2701, Cynthia for correcting these lyrics.

 
I'm pretty sure that somewhere in there I heard,"You've got the looks, I've got the brains. Let's make lots of money"
This and Knights of Cydonia were by far my favorite songs on the album
 Minimally wrote:
Nice! 8 > 9

 
with you!
A pompous song from a highly overrated band.
Always liked this one for when you wanna quit during a long run
Nice! 8 > 9
Yuck.
 ambrebalte wrote:
{#Dancingbanana} +  enigmatic not too serious existentialist grin
This is an excellent Muse
 
Saw them last week in Vancouver......so many great production special effects that no one noticed all the lip syncing.
Fortunately, I was sitting very close to the stage and had a great sight line between the microphone and Matt Bellamy.
Best song of the evening was "Madness" 
{#Dancingbanana} +  enigmatic not too serious existentialist grin
This is an excellent Muse
 fredriley wrote:

Yep, and deliberately and wonderfully excessively so. Muse are worthy pomp-rock successors to Queen, and for all the melodrama their songs are intelligent and educated, like Queen's. I think that they also have their tongues at least halfway into their cheeks. This is a BIG song, and I just wish it was pumping into some heavy-duty stacks that could be heard in the next country, not just 'phones.
 

You got it in one, Fred.
{#Cheers}
 Rockit wrote:


Yep....a new single is playing on local radio here. Madness was released late Aug.
 

That song Madness is great, I'd give it a 10 if it ever gets played here.   It's the first Muse song I liked and it made me buy the CD. 


 vivyruest wrote:


I would rather say a bit whiny.
 


I agree with both observations...
 ick wrote:
Nothing from the new record yet?
 

Yep....a new single is playing on local radio here. Madness was released late Aug.
Nothing from the new record yet?
"Map Of The Problematique"

Fear and panic in the air
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
And I feel like everything I sow
Is being swept away
Well I refuse to let you go

I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you

Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over

Life will flash before my eyes
So scattered and lost
I want to touch the other side
And no one thinks they are to blame
Why can't we see
That when we bleed we bleed the same

I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you

Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over


Thanks to Chris for adding these lyrics.
Thanks to Camille, derek.2701, Cynthia for correcting these lyrics.
Less New Order than Depeche Mode, IMHO. Maybe Depeche2 or UMode?
 
 vanmas wrote:
To melodramatic...
To bombastic...
To much...
 



..too much for ya, eh?..
{#Bananasplit}

Very "Zooropa" era U2...
XTC
Too loud.
To melodramatic...
To bombastic...
To much...
Woeful.
 citizenkeith wrote:
This band is so melodramatic.
 

I would rather say a bit whiny.
 fredriley wrote:

Yep, and deliberately and wonderfully excessively so. Muse are worthy pomp-rock successors to Queen, and for all the melodrama their songs are intelligent and educated, like Queen's. I think that they also have their tongues at least halfway into their cheeks. This is a BIG song, and I just wish it was pumping into some heavy-duty stacks that could be heard in the next country, not just 'phones.
 

NO no no no no no no.{#No}Please refrain from equating this band with Queen.{#Naughty}
 citizenkeith wrote:
This band is so melodramatic.
 
Yep, and deliberately and wonderfully excessively so. Muse are worthy pomp-rock successors to Queen, and for all the melodrama their songs are intelligent and educated, like Queen's. I think that they also have their tongues at least halfway into their cheeks. This is a BIG song, and I just wish it was pumping into some heavy-duty stacks that could be heard in the next country, not just 'phones.
 rodan wrote:
My first thought was that it was something new from New Order. 
BeenThereDoneThat wrote:

My first thought was U2.  Was that out of line?
 
Agreed with both of you before even reading comments - New Order when the music started, U2 when the vocals started.  Good stuff, either way.
It's on my pod! Big cranking cowboy bike ride when this unwinds. 
 iTuner wrote:
This Muse song sounds like U2 before they started to suck. And that's a good thing.
 
Yeah!  I thought U2, too!
these guys consistently make me anxious... and hit the stop button! 
 rodan wrote:
My first thought was that it was something new from New Order.
 
My first thought was U2.  Was that out of line?
My first thought was that it was something new from New Order.
 citizenkeith wrote:
This band is so melodramatic.
 
No shit.  Can't wait to hear what PSD does......
This band is so melodramatic.
muse is a broadway musical version of rock'n'roll.  no thank you  {#Cowboy}
{#Music} 7 {#Arrowu} 8 {#Jump}
Volume cranked up! Hell yeah {#Guitarist}
This Muse song sounds like U2 before they started to suck. And that's a good thing.
I have seen this played live! OMG
{#Jump}
Thanks for playing some Muse ...
 SinisterDexter wrote:

Both are good, but Absolution is better than both of them.
 

Absolution is my fav too   {#Music}
love, love, love this one!

{#Drummer}

{#Jump}
 Poacher wrote:
I thought I didn't like Muse. In fact I deliberately missed them on stage at a major festival because I didn't think I liked them. Arse. 
 
{#Lol} It happens, don't blame yourself. I prefer to blame the group for not striking the right chord earlier. This song does it for me.

df1489 wrote:
I'm also in the "I like Muse" camp...If I hadn't heard The Resistance here, I would never have downloaded THIS album...
It's a gem!

 
SinisterDexter wrote:

Both are good, but Absolution is better than both of them.
 

All of the above are great, but Origin of Symmetry is my all-time favorite. Muse is brilliant!

The album cover is sort of reminiscent of the famous high-contrast, Kodachrome-ish Hipgnosis cover art shot for most of Pink Floyd 's (and Led Zep among others)  albums

(EDIT:  Good eyes on my part!  I did some browsing afterward and noticed on the official Hipgnosis page that they did, in fact, shoot this cover.  Check out the Hipgnosis page.  Some of the best album art in history.  No exaggeration!  )

https://www.hipgnosiscovers.com

https://www.hipgnosiscovers.com/muse.html


Thought it was U2, U2 ?
 treehugger wrote:
Prøblémætiqüé?
 
Listening on the train from Toronto to Ottawa. On the BBerry. Pretty clean signal. Great track. Thanks, Bill!
I thought I didn't like Muse. In fact I deliberately missed them on stage at a major festival because I didn't think I liked them. Arse. 
{#Bananajam}{#Drunk}
 Ntropy wrote:
Why so many naysayers?  I like Muse!
 

Because, looking at the ratings distribution, the "yaysayers" keep their traps shut and just listen. I mean, there's clearly more of them
 nwardez wrote:
there is no e-acute in "Problematique".
 
Prøblémætiqüé?
 df1489 wrote:
I'm also in the "I like Muse" camp...If I hadn't heard The Resistance here, I would never have downloaded THIS album...
It's a gem!
 
Both are good, but Absolution is better than both of them.
 MannAudioltd wrote:
Formula Rock - Rubbish
 
Totally agree!