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Santana — Hermes
Album: All That I Am
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Released: 2005
Length: 4:02
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Rule, rule

Shala maleku maleku shala
Odi ere odi oda
Quim yambo ja aem bambe

Ian iamboo du pue
Ah quini quini rule
Ah quini quini rule

Aqui con santana cantando
Rule, rule, rule, rule, baila

Rule, rule, rule
Rule, rule, rule
Rule, rule, rule, rule
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Unpopular musical opinions #514
Santana only did three songs, and this is at least two of them.
 darxmurf wrote:
I'm I the only over saturated by santana solos and songs?
 
Yes! 
I'm I the only over saturated by santana solos and songs?
 AphidA wrote:
Santana is probably the best guitar player at sounding the exact same in every single song he's ever played. It's a whole new level of consistency with this dude.
 
true, but good thing about Santana is that he has an excellent band which he also gives the opportunity to play (unlike some rock/blues noodlers).
 kingart wrote:

I didn't know Santa was a musician. It's that Yuletide time of year. Do you happen to know Santa's concert schedule? 
 
He's always booked through December.
 kingart wrote:
I didn't know Santa was a musician. It's that Yuletide time of year. Do you happen to know Santa's concert schedule?
 
{#Roflol}
To me a weak 7 - Quite Likeable  
 Papernapkin wrote:
I hear going to a Santa concert is like going to a meld of church and a political rally. He spends a lot of time giving his opinions about God.
 
I didn't know Santa was a musician. It's that Yuletide time of year. Do you happen to know Santa's concert schedule? 
 phlattop wrote:

wow, what vitriol. Did Clive do you some great injustice?

I'll admit Carlos went the call-in-every-possible-current star/legend route one too many times after Supernatural.  It worked nicely on that one though I'd be happy to never hear "Smooth" again. And to tie this into an earlier comment that he plays the same two chords...when are people going to get that almost every great artist (or really good) has an artistic peak of 4-6 years? They say everything they need to say and almost everything after is a variation or rewrite that on that. Think Dylan has really broken any new ground since the 70s (maybe Time Out of My Mind)? Stones did a little disco but Miss You would still be a good song w/o the disco This belief that an artist should be as creatively fresh and brilliant at 50 as they were at 25 is ridiculous.

 
True. I saw Billy Joel on Colbert one time, and when asked why he stopped making albums, he said he stopped after what, 13 albums (I think) because he had said all he wanted to say. There was nothing left that he needed to say, why go on with more? Colbert brought up Elton John's 30-some albums, still going, and Joel jokingly said he's told EJ he should stop making records. lol

But for some musicians there's nothing else for them to do that they like or want to do. What's Carlos gonna do - retire and open a hot dog stand on a beach in Jamaica? Do variations on Vivaldi themes for guitar?

Somehow I just don't see him doing that kind of stuff.
made me think of some Gypsie Kings! 
 gopre wrote:
mfassett wrote:
Agree with all who are tired of the same licks over and over.... how did this guy ever get respect as a top notch guitar player? Funny, I've seen a piece on one of his relatives on PBS, and the guy is quite a good drummer/keyboard player/etc... probably better at those instruments than guitar.
Sorry but I have to agree with above comments. Same licks, over & over, and serious dearth of creativity. In most instances, the same two chords (Am, G) as well. I grew weary of Carlos about 25 years ago. Pity, but the well's been dry for a long time.

 
Hermes = Herpes
I was surprised when this came out how it sounds like it could have been from the same period as Luz, Amor y Vida...and I'm still amazed at how much it absolutely sizzles, and how Santana always seems able to tap into that eternal groove, now and forever, dig it.
 thewiseking wrote:
CLIVE DAVIS,CLIVE DAVIS, CLIVE DAVIS that is what Carlos should be chanting for without that music biz scumbags neverending support a hack like this would not have had an extended career
and this collaboration..................abysmal 

 
wow, what vitriol. Did Clive do you some great injustice?

I'll admit Carlos went the call-in-every-possible-current star/legend route one too many times after Supernatural.  It worked nicely on that one though I'd be happy to never hear "Smooth" again. And to tie this into an earlier comment that he plays the same two chords...when are people going to get that almost every great artist (or really good) has an artistic peak of 4-6 years? They say everything they need to say and almost everything after is a variation or rewrite that on that. Think Dylan has really broken any new ground since the 70s (maybe Time Out of My Mind)? Stones did a little disco but Miss You would still be a good song w/o the disco This belief that an artist should be as creatively fresh and brilliant at 50 as they were at 25 is ridiculous.
 thewiseking wrote:
CLIVE DAVIS,CLIVE DAVIS, CLIVE DAVIS that is what Carlos should be chanting for without that music biz scumbags neverending support a hack like this would not have had an extended career
and this collaboration..................abysmal 

 
Mierda. 
CLIVE DAVIS,CLIVE DAVIS, CLIVE DAVIS that is what Carlos should be chanting for without that music biz scumbags neverending support a hack like this would not have had an extended career
and this collaboration..................abysmal 
Plays all the right notes just doesn't play them fast enough!! Tiring
WonderLizard wrote:
Little known mythological fact: Herpes was the legendary Greek god of running sores. His twin sister was Hernia, the goddess of heavy objects.

Now that was laugh out loud funny. Thanks.

Papernapkin wrote:
I hear going to a Santa concert is like going to a meld of church and a political rally. He spends a lot of time giving his opinions about God.

The first couple of time we saw him, he did.  That was years ago.  The last couple of times, it was strictly music!

I hear going to a Santa concert is like going to a meld of church and a political rally. He spends a lot of time giving his opinions about God.
keller1 wrote:
Anybody ever see the FedEx ad featuring a guy dressed up like Hermes? Everybody called him Herpes, and he kept having to say, "It's Hermes, not Herpes!" More incisive musical analysis from the Great White North.
Little known mythological fact: Herpes was the legendary Greek god of running sores. His twin sister was Hernia, the goddess of heavy objects.
Anybody ever see the FedEx ad featuring a guy dressed up like Hermes? Everybody called him Herpes, and he kept having to say, "It's Hermes, not Herpes!" More incisive musical analysis from the Great White North.
IMGoph wrote:
whenever i hear this song, i keep thinking they're saying "goulet", and i picture this:
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:
:ask:
IMGoph wrote:
whenever i hear this song, i keep thinking they're saying "goulet", and i picture this:
dinkle-donkle-dinkle-donkle-someone's-calling-you-GOULET!
nobody can play with that much distortion and still have as much feeling as Carlos
whenever i hear this song, i keep thinking they're saying "goulet", and i picture this:
mfassett wrote:
Agree with all who are tired of the same licks over and over.... how did this guy ever get respect as a top notch guitar player? Funny, I've seen a piece on one of his relatives on PBS, and the guy is quite a good drummer/keyboard player/etc... probably better at those instruments than guitar.
Sorry but I have to agree with above comments. Same licks, over & over, and serious dearth of creativity. In most instances, the same two chords (Am, G) as well. I grew weary of Carlos about 25 years ago. Pity, but the well's been dry for a long time.
First JLH now his modern day equivalent, albeit with a cheezy mustache, Carlos! EL Don de Guitar! just never stop playing Senor Santana
MiketheKnife wrote:
Bleh. Repetetive & masturbatory. weedledeedledeedle/pocketapoctetapocketa... lather, rinse, repeat...
...WTF...? Wake up...
eastcoast wrote:
Who has stood the test of time...all the criticisms that Santana gets on here...he alone has lasted and has kept on playing his style...I don't see anyone saying the John Lee Hooker songs all sound the same.
Granted, this is posted from Switzerland, but here 'tis, in re: John Lee Hooker's "Dimples" from user Sunny_Day Posted: Jul 28, 2005 - 08:51 < Reply > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't get me wrong. I like JL Hooker and his blues, but somehow many of his tunes sound similar. Why? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So they do post, and they are as lame as the critics of Santana- these musicians have what's called a style. You could say all Blues Traveler songs "sound" the same, or Tom Petty, or My Morning Jacket. Its their sound.
hippiechick wrote:
How can you not want to get up and shake it when listening to this? I went to a Santana concert in Grant Park where there were 300,000 people, black, white, and Latino, and each and every one was groovin to the music and lovin each other. FEEL THE LOVE!!!! That's what it's all about!!!! (stands down from soap box)
I've seen Santana several times and it brings the same effect time after time. That's it - a little part of "La Dolce Vita" !
:bananajam: :biggrin: ">
:bananajam: oh yea!
Who has stood the test of time...all the criticisms that Santana gets on here...he alone has lasted and has kept on playing his style...I don't see anyone saying the John Lee Hooker songs all sound the same.
oooh, hermes bag for me, and some ferrigamo for you!!
hippiechick wrote:
Forget Santana's guitar playing for a moment. It's his groove that really makes the band. How can you not want to get up and shake it when listening to this? I went to a Santana concert in Grant Park where there were 300,000 people, black, white, and Latino, and each and every one was groovin to the music and lovin each other. FEEL THE LOVE!!!! That's what it's all about!!!! (stands down from soap box)
What she said. I first saw Santana at the Carousel Ballroom (eventually rechristened "Fillmore West"--hadda love that Bill Graham) in San Francisco just as their first LP came out. Amazing band. After their set, the band calmly packed up and walked out the front door. Sez something about the very brief sense of utter equality (well, except for the Angels and the dope dealers) that still dominated the scene even after the Summer of Love (heh, heh). I happened across David Brown (bass) and said something foolish and inadequate. He smiled and hugged me.
this flat out COOKS!! :fire: :fire: :fire:
I see that the Carlos Santana anti-fan club is out in force, as usual. :smile:
Forget Santana's guitar playing for a moment. It's his groove that really makes the band. How can you not want to get up and shake it when listening to this? I went to a Santana concert in Grant Park where there were 300,000 people, black, white, and Latino, and each and every one was groovin to the music and lovin each other. FEEL THE LOVE!!!! That's what it's all about!!!! (stands down from soap box)
Carlos Santana Is what he is...a guitar player...with a very distinctive sound...like it or not...
This could be Abraxas.(sic?)
Agree with all who are tired of the same licks over and over.... how did this guy ever get respect as a top notch guitar player? Funny, I've seen a piece on one of his relatives on PBS, and the guy is quite a good drummer/keyboard player/etc... probably better at those instruments than guitar.
is this actually new santana?
Santana is an over-rated guitar player. His tone is is irritating and he does not play with nearly as much feeling as other guitarists. I saw him with Jeff Beck and Jeff Beck was by far the better player.
A great set after John Lee Hooker's Dimples! Just to speed things up in the evening for me. :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana_2: :bananajumprope: :sunny:
Thx M The K, Couldn't agree more. This guy's always been derivative and self-serving(stroking)... :no: :no:
Slick wrote:
:bananajam::dancingbanana::drummer: :bananajam::dancingbanana::drummer:
I knew it was Santana from the first 3 notes, even though I have never heard this song before. GOOD MORNING!
One of the best Santana songs I've heard in years. Nice. . . :music: :think: :dancingbanana_2:
Bleh. Repetetive & masturbatory. weedledeedledeedle/pocketapoctetapocketa... lather, rinse, repeat...
Ah, our late afternoon Santana pickmeup. :yawn: -> :sunny: -> :bounce:
Happy Cinco de Mayo manana!
This song is brilliant and heavenly. BTW, sad story about the elevator smell trap. If an artist believes in not taking showers, he/she shouldn't take elevators with other people in it. I love him and his music, but he should be clean, regardless of his talent. Or go live in 1960's France.
This song is annoying as hell.
ThePoose wrote:
Remember the words of the immortal Eric ''God'' Clapton: ''For pure spirituality, Carlos Santana is number one.'' And who gets more sustain out of his/her guitar strings than Devadip?
Trey Anastasio is a close second for maximum sustain... somewhere there is a bootleg of a live show with Phish and Santana - the guitars could melt paint!
Nothing like Santana to uplift the spirits. I saw him las summer at a 4th of July concert, with around 300,000 of his closest friends. What a show!!! What a man!!!
Remember the words of the immortal Eric ''God'' Clapton: ''For pure spirituality, Carlos Santana is number one.'' And who gets more sustain out of his/her guitar strings than Devadip?
ploafmaster wrote:
Santana? His guitar playing from song to song really DOES sound the same...I've heard lots of his music, many times.
I agree that it sounds similar a lot although "the same is exaggerating I think. What I like about Santana is that he has an awesome band which gets to play a lot. (compared to other "great guitarists'" bands) I can think of a handful of guitar prodigies that basically just used their bands to provide a jam track for their soloing.
masterhead wrote:
You go Carlos, you know what you like, you don't need to change for anybody, there are a lot of us that enjoy your incredibly vibrant music. It is funny how I have read so many statements full of cultural prejudice, just when you think that our society is getting over it. Comments like..." The music and the guitar sounds always the same", WTF! it is like saying that all Mexican people look the same, follow my drift? You may like or not Santana but when people make ignorant statemenst like that, you know they are not familiar with Santana's career and Latin Music overall. IMHO of course.
Wow...you may be a solid 23 years older than me, but grow up. I LOVE Latin jazz, a la Cubanissmo, Buena Vista Social Club, and the like. I like salsa music, in general. Santana? His guitar playing from song to song really DOES sound the same...I've heard lots of his music, many times. Where in my rant, or any of these other anti-Santana comments, did somebody say, "I think Latin culture is inferior"? Even if somebody really did dislike all Latin music, that doesn't convey a bias against all Latin culture. I don't Thai food, but I'm still fascinated by their culture and history. I think you have a bias towards anybody who doesn't like the music that you do, and I've seen that in some of your past posts.
:bananajam::dancingbanana::drummer: :bananajam::dancingbanana::drummer: Damn, a fine way to head out for lunch. Thank you Carlos
masterhead wrote:
You go Carlos, you know what you like, you don't need to change for anybody, there are a lot of us that enjoy your incredibly vibrant music. It is funny how I have read so many statements full of cultural prejudice, just when you think that our society is getting over it. Comments like..." The music and the guitar sounds always the same", WTF! it is like saying that all Mexican people look the same, follow my drift? You may like or not Santana but when people make ignorant statemenst like that, you know they are not familiar with Santana's career and Latin Music overall. IMHO of course.
Lack of appreciation is not equiavlent to cultural prejudice. I think a lot of classical music sounds the same. Does it? Probably not, but I haven't listened to enough of it to appreciate the differences. IMHO, I don't think it makes people ignorant.
masterhead wrote:
You go Carlos, you know what you like, you don't need to change for anybody, there are a lot of us that enjoy your incredibly vibrant music. It is funny how I have read so many statements full of cultural prejudice, just when you think that our society is getting over it. Comments like..." The music and the guitar sounds always the same", WTF! it is like saying that all Mexican people look the same, follow my drift? You may like or not Santana but when people make ignorant statemenst like that, you know they are not familiar with Santana's career and Latin Music overall. IMHO of course.
Totally agree!!!! :high-five:
You go Carlos, you know what you like, you don't need to change for anybody, there are a lot of us that enjoy your incredibly vibrant music. It is funny how I have read so many statements full of cultural prejudice, just when you think that our society is getting over it. Comments like..." The music and the guitar sounds always the same", WTF! it is like saying that all Mexican people look the same, follow my drift? You may like or not Santana but when people make ignorant statemenst like that, you know they are not familiar with Santana's career and Latin Music overall. IMHO of course.
mojoman wrote:
The 30 billionth song on which Carlos Santana plays the exact same guitar lick.
Exactly... Lost interest in him long ago.
mojoman wrote:
The 30 billionth song on which Carlos Santana plays the exact same guitar lick.
Agreed.
The 30 billionth song on which Carlos Santana plays the exact same guitar lick.
I've been enjoying this whole album, especially this first track. By the way, I think the guy with the sunglasses on the album cover behind Carlos and to his right is my old friend from Aspen Adam Fells who now works for Santana management. (Adam is quite an accomplished guitar player himself) I haven't yet confirmed this with him, but it sure looks like him. Anyway, just a little Santana trivia for anyone who might be curious. Keep playing more of this album, I think it's really got wide appeal. :jump:
AphidA wrote:
Santana is probably the best guitar player at sounding the exact same in every single song he's ever played. It's a whole new level of consistency with this dude.
The worst part is that this is totally true. How can you make the same song for 40 years. I sure am bored already
LOL, lord Santana sucks. Way to screw up a good song.
I think this is a nice jammy song that woulud do fine without Santana's contribution. It would be sorta like an old Fela Kuti grand jam. That's some darn fine shtuff! I commend Santana, however, for bringing this big-tropical-jam style stuff to a wider audience.
I got into an elevator in New Jersey with Santana. He stunk like he hadn't taken a shower in seven weeks. After 14 floors I couldn't hold my breath anymore. He told me to grow up. Stinky bastard.
:sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny:
AphidA wrote:
Santana is probably the best guitar player at sounding the exact same in every single song he's ever played. It's a whole new level of consistency with this dude.
I like the cut of your jib.
Santana is probably the best guitar player at sounding the exact same in every single song he's ever played. It's a whole new level of consistency with this dude.
If you don't want Sony's secret SunComm software installed on your computer, don't buy this disk! I, for one, resent it, and plan to boycott any CD that has this "feature". *edit* oops, backscrolled to see that this has already been discussed.... BOYCOTT.
kazuma wrote:
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
No, not if you like listening to variations on the Carlos Santana secret chord progression.
zair99 wrote:
I know, I *hate* that. I won't buy the CD simply because of that. Rarely do I actually listen to the CDs that I buy. I rip them to my computer, and listen to them there. I make MP3 CDs for my car. I do NOT "share" my music with others, and I definitely resent all the crap they put on some of these CDs that make them nigh impossible to get onto my computer! I simply won't buy them, because even if I do, I can't listen to them! :P Of course, if I was feeling sneaky, I could still record the songs onto my computer using good old analog RCA cables. But that's just entirely too much trouble.
i remember my dismay at a cd that i bought a while back, riddled with DRM. it made me quite angry to think that the record company was trying to deter me from making a copy of the cd to take with me to art class so that i wouldn't accidentally ruin the true album, or have it stolen from me, or leave it behind, or whatever. it's like the folks at universal records are ignoring fair use. now i have an ipod, so all i listen to are mp3s, so any time i do buy an album, i rip it. i'd be very upset to find that i couldn't rip something i legitimately bought to put onto my ipod. i could rant for DAYS, seriously. heh.
:music:
phineas wrote:
Sounds just like...Santana....
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Orca wrote:
This ARISTA CD is full of copy protection. Terry
And it's still easily available online, I'm sure. So all that's really happening here is buyers being frustrated and sales being lost. Tsk, tsk, record companies. When are they going to learn?
Orca wrote:
This ARISTA CD is full of copy protection.
I know, I *hate* that. I won't buy the CD simply because of that. Rarely do I actually listen to the CDs that I buy. I rip them to my computer, and listen to them there. I make MP3 CDs for my car. I do NOT "share" my music with others, and I definitely resent all the crap they put on some of these CDs that make them nigh impossible to get onto my computer! I simply won't buy them, because even if I do, I can't listen to them! :P Of course, if I was feeling sneaky, I could still record the songs onto my computer using good old analog RCA cables. But that's just entirely too much trouble.
This ARISTA CD is full of copy protection. I believe in "fair use". You can't rip the tunes to MP3 or put them on your IPOD. Go figure. No wonder SONY is having financial problems. Who cares about the music. I just got this copy and it's going back tomorrow for a refund. There is very small print on the back but no major warning that it is copy protected beyond belief. Terry
Essbee wrote:
"Santana" has become just an excuse for musicians to get together and lay down some tracks. Santana himself is not only redundant, but his presence makes it all sound the same. Zzzzzzz.
Sleep on, then the rest of us can enjoy the excellent and vibrant music. DK :jump:
Never hurts to do what you do best. Quite enjoyable, even if it is a rehash.
"Santana" has become just an excuse for musicians to get together and lay down some tracks. Santana himself is not only redundant, but his presence makes it all sound the same. Zzzzzzz.
Woo-hoo, yet another tune worthy of becoming an overplayed iPod commerical. At my count, I think that's two in as many days. This does nothing for me at all, and I liked earlier Santana stuff. :snooty:
Essbee wrote:
Gee, it's amazing how much different Carlos' guitarwork sounds from song to song. Yes, that's sarcasm. Time for a new hat.
And a fuckin shave.
Gee, it's amazing how much different Carlos' guitarwork sounds from song to song. Yes, that's sarcasm. Time for a new hat.
MCKY wrote:
. Desi Arnez would have fit right into this one.
Loooocey! You got some 'splainin to do!
phineas wrote:
Sounds just like...Santana....
Unmistakable :drummer: :guitarist: :drummer:
miahfost wrote:
Self-indulgent noodling.
You got something against noodles? :fire:
phineas wrote:
Sounds just like...Santana....
Just what I was thinking. Don't know how some people can get around with writing the same music time and time again.
allow me to help; SANTANA IS A HACK thank you.
great tune to spruce up a rainy thanksgivng day. Desi Arnez would have fit right into this one.
miahfost wrote:
Self-indulgent noodling.
You just need a little more sunlight.
Self-indulgent noodling.
Break out the Tecate!
Whee!! Te amo Santana, or however you say that, ashamed that I live with a Venezuelan-American and can't speak a damn word of Spanish... = )
That would be correct. Nice.
New?
Sounds just like...Santana....