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Doves — Snowden
Album: Some Cities
Avg rating:
6.5

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Total ratings: 631









Released: 2005
Length: 4:07
Plays (last 30 days): 0
I said man, can you help me out?
Bring me back to love
Bring me back to life

Oh why should I care?

I said how, could you keep me out?
Without a wish to share
So without a doubt

Oh then why should I care?

We have been warned
It's a classic sign
It's a wicked mind
With an axe to grind

When is it our, our turn?
So why should we care?

Yeah we have been warned
It's a classic sign
Why should we care?

If this is our last summer
Oh then why should we care?

If this could be our last summer
Then why should we care?
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Whiney, and the death metal flirt riffs even, cannot bring this song above the level of cheap shot kitschy dog dung. 

A chesp shot shot at best.  
Regardless of why it was written, everyone will think of the NSA and Edward when they see the name Snowden. It will forever represent the truth
 brett_k wrote:
i think snowden was a character in catch 22 by joseph heller
 
Yes.  And the snowman as well but everything I have read points to the Catch-22 character as being the point of this song. My family name is Snowden. When they turned the guy over in the movie and he was, in effect, wearing my dad's fatigues I almost threw up. A little too real when your dad had just come back from Nam.

The mountain in Wales is Snowdon, not Snowden.
They put on a great show a few years back. Can't wait to see them again.
The drummer is fabulous. Bravo
I know there are those that don't like this.... so be it. {#Nyah} I still turn this up really loud everytime I hear it.

8 > 9

I thought this was Coldplay at first. But still, it's outstanding.
this track made me turn the volume down.  i especially dislike the ascending electric violin sounds.  i am so beyond star trek.
I think this is quite likable, in spite of it's Cold Play sound ...
... {#Propeller} D O V E S ... {#Tongue-out}

 Stefen wrote:
I thought this was going to be Coldplay.
 
+1

i really like this song... if RP is playing this, maybe Swervedriver (Mezcal Head) should be on the play list. its the same sound but 13 years earlier. this to me is clearly a rip off of that cd.


 bronorb wrote:


What's the difference?

And I don't mean that in a good way.

  lol  Someone is on form today!

 Stefen wrote:
I thought this was going to be Coldplay.
 

What's the difference?

And I don't mean that in a good way.

 Stefen wrote:
I thought this was going to be Coldplay.
 
I thought this was going to be Flaming Lips (before the singing started).  I was excited, but then let down...but not too far, I rated this a 7 in the past, let's see if it holds up!

I thought this was going to be Coldplay.
I love the Doves, me too !
mrcookieface wrote:
Yep. He was the one who was mortally wounded in the plane.
"It's so cold..."
jcjoh wrote:
ready for it to end :crashcomp:
Idem dito.
ready for it to end :crashcomp:
Well, Snowden is a particularly beautiful mountain in North Wales. Bore Da!
i loves the doves :-)
brett_k wrote:
i think snowden was a character in catch 22 by joseph heller
Yep. He was the one who was mortally wounded in the plane.
brett_k wrote:
i think snowden was a character in catch 22 by joseph heller
That was Yosarian (sp) and that book defines the word "funny." Major Major, who was in when he wasn't, and out when he was in. Milo Mindbender shorting the cotton market by bombing his own base... The patient in the hospital with a total body cast, which had a tube from a bottle running into him and a tube to a bottle running out of him. When the bottle on top became empty they simply took the one that was by now full from the tube running out, and switched them around. The movie didn't touch the book for genius and character development. I give Catch 22 a 10 and this tune a 5.
Just add binger. Awesome. Solid 9.
prickelpit96 wrote:
The cover reminds me of the company sign (?) of 'capitol records'. Anyone else with me?
More like RKO Pictures, after King Kong or Mighty Joe Young smacked the hell out of it.
So not cool!
brett_k wrote:
i think snowden was a character in catch 22 by joseph heller
Funny, I could have sworn it was a monster from Saturday Afternoon, creature double features. At least it sounds like a monster Godzilla would have fought.
brett_k wrote:
i think snowden was a character in catch 22 by joseph heller
a most excellent read. There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle. "That's some catch, that Catch-22," observed. "It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed.
Daniel_Pittenger wrote:
Isn't snowden the name of the Target snowman?
i think snowden was a character in catch 22 by joseph heller
i always mix up doves with elbow.
I like that creepy, science fiction movie howling at the beginning. It reminds me of the Star Trek theme.
Cruithne3753 wrote:
Love the sound of the chorus in this.
Are you kidding me? It makes me want to leave...byebye.
DigitalJer wrote:
surreal, mysterious...mmmm lovin it!
Better than a Big Mac with fries?
Love this song, the whole disk is quite good. Thanks for playing.
Having walked up Mount "Snowdon" (Wales) and then listening to this I can confirm that both are excellent for totally different reasons..........
The cover reminds me of the company sign (?) of 'capitol records'. Anyone else with me? The song itself is...hmm...nice... :shifty:
surreal, mysterious...mmmm lovin it!
Refreshing Rock. good
nice music, but a far, far nicer place.
Bocephus wrote:
god I hate this band.
Sucks to be you. :motor: :ass:
Cruithne3753 wrote:
Love the sound of the chorus in this. Evokes the golden age of something, I'm not sure what though...
It sounds like the background music to a bad sci-fi movie from the 60's. And after i wrote this I took a look at the cover art above...there you have it!
god I hate this band.
SpaceCase wrote:
Your right, it is EXACTLY like something of there's i've heard....I simply don't dig it....Marginal at best.... they should have a "0" rating for "Rip-Off Artists".....
Here is your "Rip-Off Artists"... :moon: Oh, and it "theirs" not "there's" (AKA "there is"). :rolleyes:
All hail the theremin.
Wasn't this used in the first "Heavy Metal" movie? Or at least the angelic chanting part I know for sure. Or did they sample a 20 year old obscure background sound from a highly under rated movie?
Ok, someone did this song by doing the tutorial manual "Brit-Pop for Dummies"... Sucks big time, this bloody crap!
...somewhere in the interstitial between felt mountain, nights in white satin, and amnesiac i can hear this...
robco1 wrote:
:beat: 9 to 10! :ass:
:ass:
sqqqrly wrote:
5 :arrow: 4 This is lame.
:beat: 9 to 10! :ass:
MinMan wrote:
Somehow, I thought this was a Flaming Lips tune - and I own the CD.
I thought so too...the song "Do You realize?"...
vandal wrote:
9 :arrow: 10
5 :arrow: 4 This is lame.
Somehow, I thought this was a Flaming Lips tune - and I own the CD.
Isn't snowden the name of the Target snowman?
Loquillo wrote:
CHINGONA
a huevo!! jaja :p
CHINGONA
I love it, simply love it !
9 :arrow: 10
Doves are much better than Coldfish.
TJOpootertoot wrote:
It's not just they sound KINDA like Flaming Lips. I'm not even a Lips expert and I know that main riff sounds EXACTLY like a Lips song which I can't name..."Race for the Prize" maybe? And it get's played here a lot - even if it sounds cool enough. TJ
Your right, it is EXACTLY like something of there's i've heard....I simply don't dig it....Marginal at best.... they should have a "0" rating for "Rip-Off Artists".....
Don't know what it is about the Doves, but every time I hear them, I like them a little bit more.
moneygrip wrote:
i thought it was at first listen. the album is solid.
It's not just they sound KINDA like Flaming Lips. I'm not even a Lips expert and I know that main riff sounds EXACTLY like a Lips song which I can't name..."Race for the Prize" maybe? And it get's played here a lot - even if it sounds cool enough. TJ
SpaceCase wrote:
sounds too much like the Flaming Lips for my tastes.... not the voice necessarily, but the sound of the music....
i thought it was at first listen. the album is solid.
marmite32 wrote:
Buy the cd you'll love it.
Just bought the cd pn Amazon, thanks for the info ! Guillaume
Buy the cd you'll love it.
Dont know the rest of this album, but this songs is fabulous !
Fantastic song, saw them live at V they were fab!!!
sounds too much like the Flaming Lips for my tastes.... not the voice necessarily, but the sound of the music....
I was in the other room and had to come back in when I heard this. Without having the playlist in front of me, the vocals sounded like it was a Tears For Fears song. :think:
Cruithne3753 wrote:
Love the sound of the chorus in this. Evokes the golden age of something, I'm not sure what though...
Evokes memories of the cheesy Star Trek series on TV in the late 60s.
Cruithne3753 wrote:
Love the sound of the chorus in this. Evokes the golden age of something, I'm not sure what though...
yeah... I know what you mean...
Love the sound of the chorus in this. Evokes the golden age of something, I'm not sure what though...
AWESOME band AWESOME album AWESOME song I would love to see these guys.
bigV wrote:
you need to seriously pull that stick out of your @ss. or as they say it in the old country, "wyciagnij ten kij z dupy!"
My hat's off to you, bigV, not everyone can insult someone in two languages at the same time. Did you translate that especially for me, or are you Polish? However, I can assure you that I have no sticks in any of my orifices. Interesting though that my use of two adjectives to describe a piece of music would evoke such a graphic, homoerotic image for you. Why do you think that is? One final question. What does the "V" in bigV stand for, vacuity?
:sunny: :whistle:
I like the album art's twist on the old RKO Pictures logo.
bigV wrote:
i am presumption?? and no i'm not presumptuous, just recognizing the trend and pointing out that using such terms as "pretentious" about a song are probably a weak attempt at sounding profound and knowledgeable.
no, they used the word presumption correctly, just misused the word you're...should have been your.
thought is was later XTC....never listened to Doves before...I like it.
Starts with a good clean sound and builds well. If my headphones were better, I might give it a better rating. ;) I like it.
bigV wrote:
i am presumption?? and no i'm not presumptuous, just recognizing the trend and pointing out that using such terms as "pretentious" about a song are probably a weak attempt at sounding profound and knowledgeable.
Often, yes. But it never warrants insulting someone. You did, after all, say he had a stick in his ass. And unless you can see it (ewww), that sounds like an insult to me. Anyway, I'm still diggin' this tune.
i am presumption?? and no i'm not presumptuous, just recognizing the trend and pointing out that using such terms as "pretentious" about a song are probably a weak attempt at sounding profound and knowledgeable. ploafmaster wrote:
Another magical RP song-comment-board mind reader. A poster says, "Pretentious and overblown" and you immediately know he has a stick in his ass? Maybe you can pull it out for him with some telekinesis? I love this song personally, but I think you're presumption about other people's attitudes, because they don't like the same music, is pretentious and overblown.
i don't actually like Doves but i do like this one more than all i 've heard from the band... :drummer: :guitarist:
flyfree wrote:
Great song, great album. I think Doves finally hit their stride with this.
Agreed, however, that raspy guitar solo in the middle could have been better crafted and executed.
Great song, great album. I think Doves finally hit their stride with this.
ploafmaster wrote:
Another magical RP song-comment-board mind reader. A poster says, "Pretentious and overblown" and you immediately know he has a stick in his ass? Maybe you can pull it out for him with some telekinesis? I love this song personally, but I think you're presumption about other people's attitudes, because they don't like the same music, is pretentious and overblown.
OH NO YOU DIH IN'T! (oh yes you dih id.) ;)
My dad used to play this song all the time. I never knew what this song was called or even who it was by. Then I listened to Radioheads "The Bends" and heard the song "High and Dry". For the longest time,I thought High and Dry was the one my dad played. I was doing my homework one day and listening to RadioParadise and heard Snowden. I asked my dad if he had the Some Cities album, and sure enough, he did. My whole point is, Snowden and High and Dry sound similar. Snowden - from AOL Music High and Dry - from Music Portal
Top Mountain. Top Tune.
"And we can't upset the lovely Snowden, now can we?" 7. Bumping it up a little, the instrumental weirdness is fun & groovy.
Warp 5 Mr. Scott!
bigV wrote:
you need to seriously pull that stick out of your @ss. or as they say it in the old country, "wyciagnij ten kij z dupy!"
Another magical RP song-comment-board mind reader. A poster says, "Pretentious and overblown" and you immediately know he has a stick in his ass? Maybe you can pull it out for him with some telekinesis? I love this song personally, but I think you're presumption about other people's attitudes, because they don't like the same music, is pretentious and overblown.
you need to seriously pull that stick out of your @ss. or as they say it in the old country, "wyciagnij ten kij z dupy!" meloman wrote:
Pretentious and overblown.
It is time to push the volume up thanks Bill :bananapiano:
Like Coldplay with way more kick. (And I mean that in the best possible way.)
Star Trek all the way...
could that be a theremin in the background?
A touch of electronica, a dash of psychedelia, a smidge(heehee i said smidge)of rock/pop, and some nice lyrics. These guys write some good sh*t!! :dance:
Mark1970 wrote:
THAT'S what it has been reminding me of..... been driving me freakin' crazy! LOL.... thanks, Pipes!
I wouldn't know. I never watched it that much. I do hear some Coldplay/Spacehog but I like it. Beam me up, Scotty!
Pipes wrote:
Didn't I hear the background vocals on an old episode of Star Trek?
THAT'S what it has been reminding me of..... been driving me freakin' crazy! LOL.... thanks, Pipes!
Pipes wrote:
Didn't I hear the background vocals on an old episode of Star Trek?
No kidding!! This song gets played to often.
Pretentious and overblown.
one of today's finest bands.
Pipes wrote:
Didn't I hear the background vocals on an old episode of Star Trek?
:lol: :yes:
Didn't I hear the background vocals on an old episode of Star Trek?
yes! I love this song. I was just thinking about it, and here it is. awesome.
flandersdog wrote:
well, for what it's worth: I am not overly familiar with Flaming Lips' work but like what I've heard very much. I haven't heard Doves' Last Broadcast (except for perhaps one song, on RP). but I do own Some Cities and like it very much. and I'm concerned about you - head west on Woodward Ave.!
It's more of a state of mind kind of "lost" but thanks for your concern :lol: :lol:
Another Coldplay once again!!!!!!!!!
lostindetroit wrote:
When I heard the opening I thought Flaming Lips, too. I like both bands, and I really liked the Last Broadcast but still unsure about this one. Is it worth purchasing?
well, for what it's worth: I am not overly familiar with Flaming Lips' work but like what I've heard very much. I haven't heard Doves' Last Broadcast (except for perhaps one song, on RP). but I do own Some Cities and like it very much. and I'm concerned about you - head west on Woodward Ave.!
Sounds suspiciously like The Flaming Lips' "Race for the Prize" in spots. That's okay, though.
I find it to be delighfully schizophrenic :shifty:
diane wrote:
The only thing this song is missing is the kitchen sink. . . .
It's in there playing counterpoint to the bassoon track, I'd swear.
diane wrote:
The only thing this song is missing is the kitchen sink. Everything else has been thrown in - and not for good measure. :rolleyes:
exactly...they are not bad, but they need to learn to do more with less. the end result sounds like they didn't really know what they wanted from the song so they just tried a ton of different things that don't really work too well together--and some of it definately DOES sound like a ripoff of "Do you realize"
The only thing this song is missing is the kitchen sink. Everything else has been thrown in - and not for good measure. :rolleyes:
anniebear wrote:
the beginning part reminds me of "Do You Realize", which I think is a superior song.
that's the one i was thinking of, and yes a superior song no doubt. great video too
th3boon wrote:
this song, or at least parts of it sound exactly like some flaming lips, not that that's a bad thing, but a couple of the melodies really sound ripped of (the rising doo doo doo) sounding like coldplay doesn't help either.
the beginning part reminds me of "Do You Realize", which I think is a superior song.
emleamy wrote:
I thought the same thing
I can see why you'd say that...listen to their first two albums and you may come to the conclusion that they're not trying to be Coldplay, or the Lips. No one compares to the Lips.
th3boon wrote:
this song, or at least parts of it sound exactly like some flaming lips, not that that's a bad thing, but a couple of the melodies really sound ripped of (the rising doo doo doo) sounding like coldplay doesn't help either.
I thought the same thing
Vogelfrei wrote:
The song title made me hope the lyrics would have something to do with Catch-22. I was disappointed :(
Doesn't it though? ...in the mood of that thematic character. Also, watch the video for this song. Not an expert here, but a compare and contrast might be interesting.
I got snowden once--ONCE.
When I heard the opening I thought Flaming Lips, too. I like both bands, and I really liked the Last Broadcast but still unsure about this one. Is it worth purchasing?
this song, or at least parts of it sound exactly like some flaming lips, not that that's a bad thing, but a couple of the melodies really sound ripped of (the rising doo doo doo) sounding like coldplay doesn't help either.
The song title made me hope the lyrics would have something to do with Catch-22. I was disappointed :(