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Aimee Mann — The Moth
Album: Live at St. Ann's Warehouse
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Released: 2004
Length: 3:28
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The moth don't care when he sees the flame
He might get burned, but he's in the game
And once he's in, he can't go back
He'll beat his wings till he burns them black

No, the moth don't care when he sees the flame
No, the moth don't care when he sees the flame

The moth don't care if the flame is real
'Cause flame and moth got a sweetheart deal
And nothing fuels a good flirtation
Like need and anger and desperation

No, the moth don't care if the flame is real
No, the moth don't care if the flame is real

So come on, let's go, ready or not
'Cause there's a flame I know, hotter than hot
And with a fuse that's so thoroughly shot, away

The moth don't care if the flame burns low
'Cause moth believes in an afterglow
And flames are never doused completely
All you really need is the love of heat

No, the moth don't care if the flame burns low
No, the moth don't care if the flame burns low

So come on, let's go, ready or not
'Cause there's a flame I know, hotter than hot
And with a fuse that's so thoroughly shot, away
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Cool cover version featured in Mr. Robot, season2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG6x4MHdTWM
 MiracleDrug wrote:

I'm guessing this is the reason Baskin and Robbins didn't stop after chocolate...{#Idea}

 
Yep, MD, but I'm also guessing that - in the interest of good taste - it's why they were kind enough to take liver flavor off the menu...
 ShortSharpShock wrote:
MiracleDrug wrote:

So, MD... I guess on this live track you're one of the eleven people in the audience actually glad to be there. I'm happy for you.

The people I really feel sorry for are her roadies and soundboard guy. How would they even approach the concept of trying to make that sound GOOD?! After about the third show of hearing her push that sound out of her nose about how a moth and a flame have a "sweetheart deal" (there's some great writing - all of these years I thought a sweetheart deal was something good, not something where one party burns to death), I'd go at my eardrums with an ice pick until I hit gray matter...

Just sayin'

 
I'm guessing this is the reason Baskin and Robbins didn't stop after chocolate...{#Idea}

MiracleDrug wrote:
 ShortSharpShock wrote:

Wow, I've never had something so awful provide me with such motivation. I've wanted to create an account for a long time, but this song made me snap and suddenly I just had to.

I had no idea that Aimee Mann was the voice behind 'Til Tuesday, of which I was never a fan. All I knew was that every song that has her name attached to it here on RP or elsewhere consistently provides me with one of the worst listening experiences I can possibly anticipate. This song takes this painful experience to a new low. The metaphor is bland and uncreative, the lyrics are a trashcan full of bad clichés and I believe I could emulate her abhorrent vocals by stuffing carrots up my nose and singing into a tin can.

Other than that, she's terrific... Please, please let her retire. Quickly.

I can't wait to go to all of her tracks and give them a "1" rating. At least THAT will give me some pleasure. Wish there were negative numbers available.


 
on the other hand...

EVERY time I hear Aimee...
her voice makes me SMILE...  {#Wave} 

 
So, MD... I guess on this live track you're one of the eleven people in the audience actually glad to be there. I'm happy for you.

The people I really feel sorry for are her roadies and soundboard guy. How would they even approach the concept of trying to make that sound GOOD?! After about the third show of hearing her push that sound out of her nose about how a moth and a flame have a "sweetheart deal" (there's some great writing - all of these years I thought a sweetheart deal was something good, not something where one party burns to death), I'd go at my eardrums with an ice pick until I hit gray matter...

Just sayin'

 ShortSharpShock wrote:

Wow, I've never had something so awful provide me with such motivation. I've wanted to create an account for a long time, but this song made me snap and suddenly I just had to.

I had no idea that Aimee Mann was the voice behind 'Til Tuesday, of which I was never a fan. All I knew was that every song that has her name attached to it here on RP or elsewhere consistently provides me with one of the worst listening experiences I can possibly anticipate. This song takes this painful experience to a new low. The metaphor is bland and uncreative, the lyrics are a trashcan full of bad clichés and I believe I could emulate her abhorrent vocals by stuffing carrots up my nose and singing into a tin can.

Other than that, she's terrific... Please, please let her retire. Quickly.

I can't wait to go to all of her tracks and give them a "1" rating. At least THAT will give me some pleasure. Wish there were negative numbers available.


 
on the other hand...

EVERY time I hear Aimee...
her voice makes me SMILE...  {#Wave} 

You know, I don't mind this song usually, but this version is just awful.
 ShortSharpShock wrote:

Wow, I've never had something so awful provide me with such motivation. I've wanted to create an account for a long time, but this song made me snap and suddenly I just had to.

I had no idea that Aimee Mann was the voice behind 'Til Tuesday, of which I was never a fan. All I knew was that every song that has her name attached to it here on RP or elsewhere consistently provides me with one of the worst listening experiences I can possibly anticipate. This song takes this painful experience to a new low. The metaphor is bland and uncreative, the lyrics are a trashcan full of bad clichés and I believe I could emulate her abhorrent vocals by stuffing carrots up my nose and singing into a tin can.

Other than that, she's terrific... Please, please let her retire. Quickly.

I can't wait to go to all of her tracks and give them a "1" rating. At least THAT will give me some pleasure. Wish there were negative numbers available.


 
So how do you "really" feel?  Just kidding. 


Wow, I've never had something so awful provide me with such motivation. I've wanted to create an account for a long time, but this song made me snap and suddenly I just had to.

I had no idea that Aimee Mann was the voice behind 'Til Tuesday, of which I was never a fan. All I knew was that every song that has her name attached to it here on RP or elsewhere consistently provides me with one of the worst listening experiences I can possibly anticipate. This song takes this painful experience to a new low. The metaphor is bland and uncreative, the lyrics are a trashcan full of bad clichés and I believe I could emulate her abhorrent vocals by stuffing carrots up my nose and singing into a tin can.

Other than that, she's terrific... Please, please let her retire. Quickly.

I can't wait to go to all of her tracks and give them a "1" rating. At least THAT will give me some pleasure. Wish there were negative numbers available.


Excellent song and DVD.
 annoffalese wrote:
am i really the only one who doens't like aimee mann's nasal voice?
 
No.  It's really irritating.

It is a lot more nasly in her live recordings.  They must have a de-nasalator in the studio or something. 
 vandal wrote:

I wish she wouldn't pinch her nose when she sings. . . 
 
 

{#Clap}
am i really the only one who doens't like aimee mann's nasal voice?
 Bocephus wrote:
splat...the moth is dead. problem solved.

 
{#Roflol} Vampire moth - bite - human dead. Problem solved ;)


I wish she wouldn't pinch her nose when she sings. . . 
 
splat...the moth is dead. problem solved.

 DaveInVA wrote:
Love this song {#Music}
 
Love Aimee.

 westslope wrote:
Interesting comments F1.    I could almost guarantee that she did not pick the photo; somebody else did.
 
Plus which, given how pensive so many of her songs are, the pic sets an approprite mood IMO.
Love this song {#Music}
Interesting comments F1.    I could almost guarantee that she did not pick the photo; somebody else did.
annoffalese wrote:
YUK! Why do you play this?
The moth don't care. I think this is a pheromonimal song!

YUK! 2 months later and you're playing it again!
 sqqqrly wrote:

She looks pretty miserable on the cover. Is she bored?  Wishing she were anywhere else?   Still a seven.

 
When one considers that she probably had dozens and dozens of photos to choose from she picked this.  This is how she wants to be portrayed?  I thought she was supposed to be a strong individual, but she only succeeds in making herself look depressed and frightened.
St. Ann's Warehouse is by far my favorite Aimee album.  She mixes in a few Magnolia songs and the band sounds terrific throughout.  For an artist that doesn't really enjoy playing shows, Aimee rocks this one.

For those looking at buying this one, this album comes with a DVD of the concert inside as well, which is a fantastic deal for about fifteen bucks.

8.

YUK! Why do you play this?
 suebee3 wrote:

This makes me want to run for a kleenex - she sounds like she needs some Nazonex!

 
yeah i usually like her voice but this is horrid
I can tell you from Insect neurobiology that "The Moth" does not really care about anything else either - other than perhaps finding a mate.
 rtrudeau wrote:
I believe this is what they call a metaphor. You might try to look it up. Or possibly take English 101.
 
{#Clap}

This makes me want to run for a kleenex - she sounds like she needs some Nazonex!


 phlattop wrote:
someone gives this woman a drink. she always sounds miserable
 
She looks pretty miserable on the cover. Is she bored?  Wishing she were anywhere else?   Still a seven.

 torturedpotato wrote:
Yeah, because American Idol is the gold standard for musicianship.

 
Unfortunately, to far too many people, it has become so.

 MrStatenIsle wrote:
Who gives a rat's a** what the moth thinks?
This is embarrassingly funny.
 

I believe this is what they call a metaphor. You might try to look it up. Or possibly take English 101.
A snoozer, for sure. I like some of Aimee's work, but it's definitely not all-inclusive.
Her concert cuts always remind me of her cameo on Buffy - the closest I've ever been to this musical goddess live!{#Dancingbanana}
 annoffalese wrote:
ban the Mann....she sings through her nose and it is most irritating to the ears
 
It's not just the nasal thing. There's another annoying tonality thing going on as well.

Pretty much my least favorite track from a phenomenal album.
I like it.
Its just that, as good as a voice may be, its just not interesting if its perfect. artists with less than perfect voices really show vulnerability, and thats what makes for great music. I think I like the studio version better on this one though.

annoffalese wrote:
ban the Mann....she sings through her nose and it is most irritating to the ears
Yet, you rate Neil Young an 8.
ban the Mann....she sings through her nose and it is most irritating to the ears
The whole thing is a bit Kafka-esque. I bet the moth is a misunderstood heroin addict.
Who gives a rat's a** what the moth thinks? This is embarrassingly funny.
someone gives this woman a drink. she always sounds miserable
Picked this one up a few months ago. Really enjoyable, start to finish. Yeah, she does kinda shoegaze in this performance. Both she and her band say that she'd rather be in the studio recording than playing gigs. It's her nature. The disc is filled with some of my favorite tunes. Crafty songwriting; take a moment to listen.
One more vote for the studio version. I've heard a few cuts off this live album after each one I ask why she released that performance. Her voice just wasn't good that night.
much as I like aimee, I have to agree with the comments about nasality. sounds like she was afflicted with a pretty nasty cold at this performance. Why not play the studio versions of these live songs?
mmmm... nasally!
MaG580 wrote:
She got some nice stuff but especially here she sounds like my friends mom..
Perhaps the one you secretly pined for? She sounds great here!
torturedpotato wrote:
Yeah, because American Idol is the gold standard for musicianship.
Touche!
Thanks for posting this. It's great. rah wrote:
the lesson of the moth i was talking to a moth the other evening he was trying to break into an electric light bulb and fry himself on the wires why do you fellows pull this stunt i asked him because it is the conventional thing for moths or why if that had been an uncovered candle instead of an electric light bulb you would now be a small unsightly cinder have you no sense plenty of it he answered but at times we get tired of using it we get bored with the routine and crave beauty and excitement fire is beautiful and we know that if we get too close it will kill us but what does that matter it is better to be happy for a moment and be burned up with beauty than to live a long time and be bored all the while so we wad all our life up into one little roll and then we shoot the roll that is what life is for it is better to be a part of beauty for one instant and then cease to exist than to exist forever and never be a part of beauty our attitude toward life is come easy go easy we are like human beings used to be before they became too civilized to enjoy themselves and before i could argue him out of his philosophy he went and immolated himself on a patent cigar lighter i do not agree with him myself i would rather have half the happiness and twice the longevity but at the same time i wish there was something i wanted as badly as he wanted to fry himself - archy (aka Don Marquis)
She got some nice stuff but especially here she sounds like my friends mom..
brokemusician wrote:
If she were to compete in American Idol, I wonder how far she would make it? :whisper: :lol: Good band, though!
Yeah, because American Idol is the gold standard for musicianship.
snurfer wrote:
Chrissie Hynde's but much lazy...
odd... when I saw her live last year, I finally heard what all the rave was about (even though I loved her stuff before) Her voice was so smooth.... like buttah!
Zosh wrote:
I really want to like Aimee, but her singing voice is just so darned boring.
Chrissie Hynde's but much lazy...
More Mann-ish mediocrity. And is there a bigger lyrical cliche than moth-->flame? I would give her a point for some originality but there's none to be found here.
If she were to compete in American Idol, I wonder how far she would make it? :whisper: :lol: Good band, though!
radiojunkie wrote:
I can't figure out if she was under the weather at this performance, or what, but compared to all the other recordings I've heard, on here her voice sounds thin and scratchy, and her accent and phrasing are weird. It's like she's barely the same singer, and I can't believe that her smooth and confident voice on all her other recordings has been the result of some kind of studio wizardry. Hasn't anybody else noticed this?
I agree :yes:
I really want to like Aimee, but her singing voice is just so darned boring.
I always enjoy a little Aimee Mann.
physicsgenius wrote:
OPEN. YOUR. MOUTH. WHEN. YOU. SING.
Exactly. :mrgreen:
the lesson of the moth i was talking to a moth the other evening he was trying to break into an electric light bulb and fry himself on the wires why do you fellows pull this stunt i asked him because it is the conventional thing for moths or why if that had been an uncovered candle instead of an electric light bulb you would now be a small unsightly cinder have you no sense plenty of it he answered but at times we get tired of using it we get bored with the routine and crave beauty and excitement fire is beautiful and we know that if we get too close it will kill us but what does that matter it is better to be happy for a moment and be burned up with beauty than to live a long time and be bored all the while so we wad all our life up into one little roll and then we shoot the roll that is what life is for it is better to be a part of beauty for one instant and then cease to exist than to exist forever and never be a part of beauty our attitude toward life is come easy go easy we are like human beings used to be before they became too civilized to enjoy themselves and before i could argue him out of his philosophy he went and immolated himself on a patent cigar lighter i do not agree with him myself i would rather have half the happiness and twice the longevity but at the same time i wish there was something i wanted as badly as he wanted to fry himself - archy (aka Don Marquis)
OPEN. YOUR. MOUTH. WHEN. YOU. SING.
...nothing fuels a good flirtation like need and anger and desperation.... I love that line. I'm in need, and kinda angry, and REALLY desperate. Anyone wanna flirt?
'Cause moth and flame got a sweetheart deal' Beautiful song about attraction ... the CD it's from (Lost in Space) is great too - a slow burner. Don't expect vocal trickery from Aimee, just great songs and a sharp mind (read what she has to say about the music industry) Have never seen her live, but I can imagine her not being the most comfortable on stage
The difficult thing is that Aimee is a lovely songwriter. She believes the words are critical, she works hard at them. She is successful. And she keeps a tight band behind her but the fact is that she is just not comfortable on stage. And it hurts her live performance.
Yes, I think I'll check this out.
coentje wrote:
BUY THIS ALBUM NOW (with DVD)!! It's absolutely fantastic.. I had the privilege to see her in concert and this comes closest to that great experience.
Seeing Aimee live is also one of my better experiences. Her voice is so velvety... smooth like BUTTAH! Even if she weren't on stage, her band is a treat to watch and hear.
I can't figure out if she was under the weather at this performance, or what, but compared to all the other recordings I've heard, on here her voice sounds thin and scratchy, and her accent and phrasing are weird. It's like she's barely the same singer, and I can't believe that her smooth and confident voice on all her other recordings has been the result of some kind of studio wizardry. Hasn't anybody else noticed this?
etwilson wrote:
I don't know. I'm a big Aimee fan but this song doesn't do much for me. I just found out that she's playing a free show in Pittsburgh in June though, I'll definately be there.
We Netflix'd a concert dvd of her. Hoo that was boring. Love her cds tho...
I don't know. I'm a big Aimee fan but this song doesn't do much for me. I just found out that she's playing a free show in Pittsburgh in June though, I'll definately be there.
:yawn: :sleep:
BobVaughan wrote:
Sorry everyone, but ... :puke: There are too many good singer-songwriter women out there, and she really sounds horrible.
That's just fine. Now please brush your teeth and gargle.
Sorry everyone, but ... :puke: There are too many good singer-songwriter women out there, and she really sounds horrible.
BUY THIS ALBUM NOW (with DVD)!! It's absolutely fantastic.. I had the privilege to see her in concert and this comes closest to that great experience.
Ok Living up here in commercial radio hell, RP is the only place I get to hear beautiful voices like Aimee .. .Everything I've heard from her on RP is wonderful... :clap:
I Love Amiee Mann....her voice is SO awesome......and she's gorgeux too! :sunny.gif:
Zweiblumen wrote:
I don't know. 3 is labeled as "Ho hum" and I would describe that as such. I wish the labels more appropriately matched our ideas of 1-10 ratings.
I'm curious which way round you think the ratings should go. The ones we have are very much biased to positive (there are more above average ratings than below). I quite like that though as it gives people scope to think twice before marking everything 10.
justlistening wrote:
Aimee Mann sounds like she's struggling here. Not up to her usual greatness. Not a 3 but not great either I guess.
I don't know. 3 is labeled as "Ho hum" and I would describe that as such. I wish the labels more appropriately matched our ideas of 1-10 ratings.
I just love this song. I've only heard it before on a local student radio station WQFS from Guilford College. Thanks to them and to you for playing it.
Aimee Mann sounds like she's struggling here. Not up to her usual greatness. Not a 3 but not great either I guess.