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Porcupine Tree — Lightbulb Sun
Album: Lightbulb Sun
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Released: 2000
Length: 5:19
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The sun is a light bulb, a candle's a treat
The curtains stay closed now on my little retreat
And I'll only take medicine if it's followed by sweets
A sickly pink liquid that puts me to sleep

My head beats a better way
Tomorrow a better day

And I can watch TV while I'm wrapped up in bed
And mother makes sure that I'm watered and fed
My best friends from school will come over and stare
At me in my bubble of germified air

My head beats a better way
Tomorrow a better day

When I'm asleep the smoke fills me
I feel the heat, my illness leaves me

My head beats a better way
Tomorrow a better day

When I'm asleep the smoke fills me
I feel the heat, my illness leaves me

The sun is a light bulb, a candle's a treat
The curtains stay closed now on my little retreat
But after a while the noise from the street
Is making me wish I was back on my feet
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20 minutes too short
damn right  csutto wrote:
 Another thought: Hearing talent like PT, only proves there has to be a God {#Cheers}


kretinburger wrote:
If there was a God I would say thank god for PT.

As there isnt, thank goodness for PT!



 



 

This sounds a little different from the album version I am accustomed to, anyone notice it is a little different?
Good post chinaski.
 
That said, a Porcupine Tree reunion album and tour would likely sell like crazy. 
During the Hand Cannot Erase concert in Dallas on Nov. 15, 2016 Steven Wilson referred to Porcupine Tree in the past tense. Much as we'd like to see more PT by his conversation to the crowd I was left with the impression that the PT lineup of musicians and output as PT is done. He mentioned David Bowie and Prince as examples of ever evolving artists and so too with his projects.

That's Prog ress for you, pun intended.
 rekinte wrote:
una pieza musical impecable donde Wilson demuestra una vez mas el cabron de musico que es, un genio!!!!

 
¡Muy bien dicho!   
una pieza musical impecable donde Wilson demuestra una vez mas el cabron de musico que es, un genio!!!!
All I can ever say is Brilliant!{#Sunny}
 Propayne wrote:

He says: “I suspect that if I did do it, it would have to be more like a side-project to what I do now. Why would I want to go back to a band now? 

 

 

 
Because you're a musician/songwriter, and that's what you do? Isn't recording solo albums basically the same thing, or has Wilson taken up basket weaving?
 RoyalTS wrote:

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Steven Wilson just denied these rumours in an interview:

https://prog.teamrock.com/news/2015-01-22/steven-wilson-shouts-down-porcupine-tree-rumour

 
Thanks for the link - love Prog magazine.

Interesting interview:

"But while Wilson is fully focused on his album Hand. Cannot. Erase. which is launched on March 2, he’s not ruling out an eventual return to Porcupine Tree. 

He says: “I suspect that if I did do it, it would have to be more like a side-project to what I do now. Why would I want to go back to a band now? 

“But at the same time, Porcupine Tree has a special place in my heart and my career. I think probably we will make another record. Whether it will be the last, I don’t know."

 
{#Guitarist}  —yeah baby—{#Dancingbanana_2}
....this album marks the brit-pop sound of pt...I really do love it....looking for the new outcome of Mister Wilson...his musical challenge(s) bring me further in my life...so big thx for the journey so far :-))) If you don´t know the whole stuff...listen...share......this questions of of a re-union of PT keeps me a bit cold, so ;-)
 Propayne wrote:

According to the website Metal Injection, PT could be back in 2016.

Gavin has also recently said that they never split and he expects they will reconvene.

 
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Steven Wilson just denied these rumours in an interview:

https://prog.teamrock.com/news/2015-01-22/steven-wilson-shouts-down-porcupine-tree-rumour


 Relayer wrote:
OK Steve Wilson, you've had your fun with the solo albums, now let's get PT back together and make a rocking concept album again.

 
According to the website Metal Injection, PT could be back in 2016.

Gavin has also recently said that they never split and he expects they will reconvene.
OK Steve Wilson, you've had your fun with the solo albums, now let's get PT back together and make a rocking concept album again.
This cut is 20 minutes too short. 
An amazing run these last ten songs. Great for doing taxes. Keep it up!
Not my favorite PT song, musically fantastic, but lyrically leaves me cold.     if it was vinyl I would listen to it rather than turn the record over,

but in this day and age of the mp3 and the PSD, if pushed, I would press.



  seven
This CD is a great introduction to earlier PT. Wistful, haunting, beautiful. Highly recommended. 
 Another thought: Hearing talent like PT, only proves there has to be a God {#Cheers}


kretinburger wrote:

If there was a God I would say thank god for PT.

As there isnt, thank goodness for PT!



 



 kretinburger wrote:

If there was a God I would say thank god for PT.

As there isnt, thank goodness for PT!



 

You got that right - I wish SW would get back with PT for another CD. What ever he does do I know will be great

If there was a God I would say thank god for PT.

As there isnt, thank goodness for PT!


 ShaunJ wrote:

I believe that Chris Maitland is on drums. Gavin Harrison plays on the reissues of The Sky Moves Sideways and Up the Downstair.

 
Thanks ShaunJ. :)
Porcupine is one of those groups for me that just plays in the background, I don't really dislike or particularly like them, just meh usually.  With a few exceptions and this is most certainly one of them. Great song. 8
what? are you sure you're from BC? You sound like someone paranoid over losing their right to carry


 
westslope wrote:

Plus, when some young gang-bangers cock the sawed-off shotgun over on the second aisle, you will not hear it!

Frankly, I think ear-phones delivering music are dangerous:  on the street, while walking or bicycling, or in any crowded social venue.



 


This is exactly what I need right now as the mid-afternoon somnolescence sets in.
 stevendejong wrote:

It's about an ill boy being bored to death in his bedroom and making up things to amuse himself with. Not that deep :-)
 
Not at all deep.  But a wonderful treatment of a common experience:  staying home from school sick.

 

 

P.S.  That is Chris Maitland on drums and backup vocals.


 ziakut wrote:
Brilliant as usual. Wondering if anyone knows if this is Gavin Harrison on drums. Sounds like it, but not sure.
 
I believe that Chris Maitland is on drums. Gavin Harrison plays on the reissues of The Sky Moves Sideways and Up the Downstair.
Brilliant as usual. Wondering if anyone knows if this is Gavin Harrison on drums. Sounds like it, but not sure.
..it's, like, "Wow!" every time..8 >> 9..
One of the best songs on one of my favorite PT albums. {#Jump}
Was just thinking how cool this was and going to check who it was.  Just a part of the Porcupine Tree I haven't climbed yet.  Another cool song.  This band are very cool and go up there for me with Muse in terms of bands I really want to see live that I haven't yet.
 michaelgmitchell wrote:
"The sun is a light bulb; the candle's a tree."
Or something like that.
I dig PT, but even this is a little too "deep" for me. 
 
It's about an ill boy being bored to death in his bedroom and making up things to amuse himself with. Not that deep :-)
gdammit this is an awesome song.
 michaelgmitchell wrote:
"The sun is a light bulb; the candle's a tree."
Or something like that.
I dig PT, but even this is a little too "deep" for me. 
 
A candle's a treat.
 Proclivities wrote:
 westslope wrote:

Plus, when some young gang-bangers cock the sawed-off shotgun over on the second aisle, you will not hear it!

Frankly, I think ear-phones delivering music are dangerous:  on the street, while walking or bicycling, or in any crowded social venue.


When the Sony Walkman first became popular, a great many people were mugged in NYC (and likely other major cities) while wearing them.  I just remember it because I lived in NY back then.

 

Two young men died on railway tracks in Canada not so long ago.  One near Edmonton, Alberta; the other in Ontario.  Both were wearing MP3 players.

Socially acceptable suicide I guess.  Tragic nonetheless.

 

This song is such a wonderful celebration of growing up in a warm, secure household.

 


danke für porcupine tree  {#Guitarist}
Love this song.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Cherish the people that love you. They are such a treasure.
Thanks RP for my new found joy of Porcupine Tree! Just lovin' what they do....
Supergrass followed by PTree - two of the most innovative bands of the millenial age! Word!
 michaelgmitchell wrote:
"The sun is a light bulb; the candle's a tree."
Or something like that.
I dig PT, but even this is a little too "deep" for me. 
 
Sorry to hear that........{#Sad}
"The sun is a light bulb; the candle's a tree."
Or something like that.
I dig PT, but even this is a little too "deep" for me. 
 westslope wrote:

Plus, when some young gang-bangers cock the sawed-off shotgun over on the second aisle, you will not hear it!

Frankly, I think ear-phones delivering music are dangerous:  on the street, while walking or bicycling, or in any crowded social venue.


When the Sony Walkman first became popular, a great many people were mugged in NYC (and likely other major cities) while wearing them.  I just remember it because I lived in NY back then.

Must have rated the live version previously: 9+
OKAY, now this set is BACK ON ITS ROCKIN' TRACK!
To hear PF and PT in the same hour is sheer sonic bliss...thanks!
 leathepea wrote:

and if you love the Stupid Dream cd, then you will like the In Absentia cd.

 
In Absentia is still the best.

heavy stuff, I love it! the tree just keeps giving
 westslope wrote:

Then you may love the CD. If you like the CD, you will are bound to love the Stupid Dream CD. 

 
and if you love the Stupid Dream cd, then you will like the In Absentia cd.

 Dinges,_the_Dude wrote:
First time I hear this song and I think I like it a lot!
 
Then you may love the CD. If you like the CD, you are bound to love the Stupid Dream CD. 


First time I hear this song and I think I like it a lot!
 Canlistener wrote:
.....  Yes I own an ipod, but am old enough and have the attention span to keep it off shuffle and enjoy albums as they were meant.  Plus it helps me ignore the The Doobie Brothers blaring in the supermarket!
 

Plus, when some young gang-bangers cock the sawed-off shotgun over on the second aisle, you will not hear it!

Frankly, I think ear-phones delivering music are dangerous:  on the street, while walking or bicycling, or in any crowded social venue.


Very nice!
 Limpopoking wrote:


I couldn't agree more. Shuffle has it's place, and it's quite appealing to use it while I'm working and not totally focussed on the music, but I have a playlist from which I can use the shuffle feature. It doesn't include any of the albums that are more than just a collection of songs. Oh, and BTW, I don't own an i-Pod. The last thing I need is for Steve Jobs to be telling me what I can and can't do after giving him money... I have a number of i-Audio's. Cowan's philosophy is that "you bought it, you use it the way you'd like to"... awesome players.
 
I had never heard of i-Audio and looked up the products... Stunning.  I'm certainly going to take a closer look at them, I'm getting pretty fed up with Jobs tyrannical control over content and apps.  Thanks, I love all the little tidbits of info from RP listeners I pickup.
 Canlistener wrote:
The whole first disc of 'The Incident' is one song flowing into the next for a reason.  It makes listening to a single track on an ipod set to shuffle somewhat unappealing as the PT song ending is cut off with out the usual digitally enhanced smoothness.  This was Wilson's little shot at mp3 players.

He hates the fact that music has been reduced from creating an 'album' that has a feel and a journey, to a 'hit single' with a bunch of garbage to be discarded or simply not downloaded.  Yes I own an ipod, but am old enough and have the attention span to keep it off shuffle and enjoy albums as they were meant.  Plus it helps me ignore the The Doobie Brothers blaring in the supermarket!
 

I couldn't agree more. Shuffle has it's place, and it's quite appealing to use it while I'm working and not totally focussed on the music, but I have a playlist from which I can use the shuffle feature. It doesn't include any of the albums that are more than just a collection of songs. Oh, and BTW, I don't own an i-Pod. The last thing I need is for Steve Jobs to be telling me what I can and can't do after giving him money... I have a number of i-Audio's. Cowan's philosophy is that "you bought it, you use it the way you'd like to"... awesome players.

 buddy wrote:
PT always rocks.

I saw them in Boulder a couple of years ago (...).
 
Love the riff.
The whole first disc of 'The Incident' is one song flowing into the next for a reason.  It makes listening to a single track on an ipod set to shuffle somewhat unappealing as the PT song ending is cut off with out the usual digitally enhanced smoothness.  This was Wilson's little shot at mp3 players.

He hates the fact that music has been reduced from creating an 'album' that has a feel and a journey, to a 'hit single' with a bunch of garbage to be discarded or simply not downloaded.  Yes I own an ipod, but am old enough and have the attention span to keep it off shuffle and enjoy albums as they were meant.  Plus it helps me ignore the The Doobie Brothers blaring in the supermarket!
Prolly my fav PT song.{#Clap}
 horstman wrote:

Steven's smashing of ipods is an expression of his dissatisfaction of modern day consumption of music. It is funny, profound and anything but childish. It's just simply something you don't agree with so it obviously can't be mature, can it?

I went driving with one of my co workers a couple of years ago and he brought his ipod along. I never got more than one song by an artist the whole trip of several hours. It was very disconnected.

When I listen to music (when I'm not on RP) I listen to entire albums where the artist can paint a mood, expression, etc. And that is what Steven is trying to get across both in his music (The Incident clearly points this out) in that an album is a vehicle that the artist uses to portray their artistry. Not a collection of random thoughts and "selling points". Sure other artists do this as well, but the point here is that ipods tend to disrupt this concept with their shuffle play and playlists. Ultimately it comes down to youth and how they listen to music and again, it's a criticism of that as well.

It's one thing for an artist to voice his or her opinions about their dissatisfaction about different aspects of the listening public, it is another to do something creative that has a lasting, impressionable impact on the greater society about their dissatisfaction towards listeners tastes and habits.

Steven hit the nail on the head. Or shall we say ipod.

Oh, and enjoy the show. I'll be in Buffalo for my third show with this splendid band!
IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp} IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp}

 
Oh, you forget they stand to profit from CD sales better than electronic sales of individual songs.  They realize that electronic formats alow there music to reach a larger market, but hate cherry pickers (I-pods).


 Derecho wrote:
Picked up tickets for the show at Chicago at the end of this month.  Looking forward to it!

Hopefully we'll be spared more scenes of Steven's childish destruction of iPods.
 

Oh?  Where did Steven Wilson exhibit such childish behaviour?

The bigger question is will Steven Wilson Inc. benefit or lose from such violent behaviour?  Techically it is violent even if it was performance art and no laws were broken.

Now if offended i-Pod owners across American gathered in Lousiana and publicly burned and stomped on their collection of Porcupine Tree CDs, well, I reckon the marketing impact would be enormous!  -lol-

 

Once ran and bicycle-commuted (about 6 km) to work for a couple of weeks wearing a walkman.  Didn't like it all as it smothered up valuable information that was helping to keep me alive.  And yes, I do not own an i-Pod.  Burning MP3 files on a CD is cheaper.



 Derecho wrote:
Picked up tickets for the show at Chicago at the end of this month.  Looking forward to it!

Hopefully we'll be spared more scenes of Steven's childish destruction of iPods.
 
Steven's smashing of ipods is an expression of his dissatisfaction of modern day consumption of music. It is funny, profound and anything but childish. It's just simply something you don't agree with so it obviously can't be mature, can it?

I went driving with one of my co workers a couple of years ago and he brought his ipod along. I never got more than one song by an artist the whole trip of several hours. It was very disconnected.

When I listen to music (when I'm not on RP) I listen to entire albums where the artist can paint a mood, expression, etc. And that is what Steven is trying to get across both in his music (The Incident clearly points this out) in that an album is a vehicle that the artist uses to portray their artistry. Not a collection of random thoughts and "selling points". Sure other artists do this as well, but the point here is that ipods tend to disrupt this concept with their shuffle play and playlists. Ultimately it comes down to youth and how they listen to music and again, it's a criticism of that as well.

It's one thing for an artist to voice his or her opinions about their dissatisfaction about different aspects of the listening public, it is another to do something creative that has a lasting, impressionable impact on the greater society about their dissatisfaction towards listeners tastes and habits.

Steven hit the nail on the head. Or shall we say ipod.

Oh, and enjoy the show. I'll be in Buffalo for my third show with this splendid band!
IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp} IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp}  IPOD{#Crashcomp}

 smackiepipe wrote:
Excellent. I almost wish Steve W would 'fall back' and produce another album like this instead of another 'concept.'
 
I love the concept CDs but this one and Stupid Dream are both top notch.  There are some songs on the Lightbulb Sun CD that really pull at me.

 Derecho wrote:
Picked up tickets for the show at Chicago at the end of this month.  Looking forward to it!

Hopefully we'll be spared more scenes of Steven's childish destruction of iPods.
 
I envy those of you fortunate enough to see these guys.  They'll probably never come here!

Picked up tickets for the show at Chicago at the end of this month.  Looking forward to it!

Hopefully we'll be spared more scenes of Steven's childish destruction of iPods.
Excellent. I almost wish Steve W would 'fall back' and produce another album like this instead of another 'concept.'
About to see them for the 5th time myself   =D
Love the sound of a drummer enjoying himself.
 Deadwing wrote:
Smokin guitar!

Porcupine Tree is playing Saturday May 1st at Bogart's in Cincinnati!!   I'm walking on air!!     
 
I've been lucky enough to have seen them three times so far.

Tempted to drive down to Charlotte to see them this April. 
8  -  9 & getting better...... gotta love PT!!
Lyrics are a smidgen pretentious but the song's still very good
Smokin guitar!

Porcupine Tree is playing Saturday May 1st at Bogart's in Cincinnati!!   I'm walking on air!!     
 Deadwing wrote:
The live version of this from PT's new ROABP CD Ilosaarirock is just outstanding!  Steven and Gavin are smokin'   {#Guitarist}{#Drummer}     
 
I gather one has to buy an annual membership in ROABP for £17.39 GBP in order to get access to the ROABP CD.

Nice, and i dont like a lot of their stuff!!
Take a tip from the jacket of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars: "To be played at maximum volume."
Have not seen PT's new ROABP CD Ilosaarirock on burningshed.com
A while back westslope wrote:
Is there anyway to get the CD without downloading a pirated version?

Most PT albums can acquired and downloaded legally from the online store burningshed.com, not only in mp3 but also flac. {#Music}

Such a sweet, simple song- and they tear it up live   {#Guitarist}
 FrankMc wrote:
....Sounds like vocalist needs a few more decades of cigarettes and singing but definite overtones......
 
LOL!  Well, I believe you are right about the tobacco-cured baritone voices.  Am a big fan of Leonard Cohen and would not have seen any kind of similarity with Steven Wilson's voice.

Talky vocals, nice baritone voice. Sounds like vocalist needs a few more decades of cigarettes and singing but definite overtones. Not kidding.

 
westslope wrote:

You are kidding, right?

 


After giving this CD a rest for a couple of months, I've recently been playing it...Lovin it yet again.
 FrankMc wrote:
Sounds like the second coming of Leonard Cohen.
 
You are kidding, right?

I love this band, and I have RP to thank for it!
Sounds like the second coming of Leonard Cohen.
 crockydile wrote:
I like PT alot, but this song is so much like another one of theirs from Deadwing...Hair Blown in an open car? {#Ask}

Annoying when bands cover themselves...

 
Don't agree.

Deadwing wrote:


Actually Chris Maitland is the drummer on this track. Gavin Harrison is one of the drummers he admires though. This album was Chris' last with PT. In Absentia is Gavin's first with the group. It's the only lineup change they have ever had. {#Drummer} Both drummers are just stellar!

{#Yes}

I like PT alot, but this song is so much like another one of theirs from Deadwing...Hair Blown in an open car? {#Ask}

Annoying when bands cover themselves...

 Deadwing wrote:

 {#Drummer} Both drummers are just stellar!
 
Absolutely!

 archinantes wrote:
PT drummer is outstanding ! The one I prefer. Thumbs up for Gavin !!
 

Actually Chris Maitland is the drummer on this track. Gavin Harrison is one of the drummers he admires though. This album was Chris' last with PT. In Absentia is Gavin's first with the group. It's the only lineup change they have ever had. {#Drummer} Both drummers are just stellar!
9 > 10.
Can't help myself, and why would I want to....................brilliant!
 Deadwing wrote:
The live version of this from PT's new ROABP CD Ilosaarirock is just outstanding!  Steven and Gavin are smokin'   {#Guitarist}{#Drummer}     
 
Is there anyway to get the CD without downloading a pirated version?

PT drummer is outstanding ! The one I prefer. Thumbs up for Gavin !!
Such an amazing song     {#Music}
More PT music to buy Deadwing?   
The live version of this from PT's new ROABP CD Ilosaarirock is just outstanding!  Steven and Gavin are smokin'   {#Guitarist}{#Drummer}     
I'm so very very glad that RP turned me onto this band.  I SO dig their music!!!
First I've heard this PT tune - love the piano bits in there . .
 scooterdog wrote:
Great song by one the greates writers, gutarist, weve seen in years. thank you RP for bring SW and company to my misical life.

How about Russia on Ice
 

Excellent suggestion scooterdog.  Russia on Ice is currently not in RP's inventory.  Perhaps you would like to upload it?


the amazing Porcupine Tree. Loving the guitar (or guitars?) on this.
Great song by one the greates writers, gutarist, weve seen in years. thank you RP for bring SW and company to my misical life.

How about Russia on Ice
I could read your column daily...you should have one Deadwing wrote:


The song is divided into 2 separate sections- 1st part is entitled Winding Shot, and the 2nd part is Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled. The 2 sections are very different stylistically (which you know of course )

The sampled voice during "Last Chance" is that of Marshall Applewhite (in his goodbye to Earth video)- the stellar nutbag behind the Heaven's Gate mass suicide in 1997 (remember the guys that thought their escape spaceship from Earth was behind the Hale-Bopp comet?)

I think Wilson uses the first part of the song to exemplify everything that is good, innocent, and positive about us as humans, and the second part to illustrate how very wrong things in the human brain can go- and that as a species we are capable of terrifying variations of behavior and perceptions of reality.
 


{#Yes} HarrO wrote:
Outstanding
 


Outstanding
 xkolibuul wrote:


.....

That being said, salmon farms off BC are unquestionably having an impact more locally on the health of wild runs—sea lice are a major issue, and that science is getting better and better each year.  This is not rocket science: it should be a crime to farm raise salmon in a region where wild runs still have a shot at survival.  Shut em all down, I say, strictly on culinary grounds:  farm salmon tastes like cardboard.  Yuck!  

 

I have to disagree with virtually everything you say about Atlantic salmon farms off the coast of BC and the 'campaign'.

Agreed, the scientific rhetoric has improved.  The science has gone from amateurish bush league to somewhat better.  But the overall conclusions leave much to be desired.

Furthermore, there are strong indications that recent "data gathering" continues to be fraudulent.  Even opponents within the commercial sector who know the researchers involved do not believe the lice counts being reported on sockeye.

As for farmed Atlantic salmon tasting like "cardboard".....   Have you ever eaten wild Atlantic salmon?  (I would guess not.)  Are you sure that you are not getting confused with the taste of frozen wild coho salmon?  Do you actually eat fish on a regular basis or is this campaign a good pretext to avoid a food item you neither like nor understand like the vast majority of BCers?

xkolibuul, The rhetoric employed by the anti-salmon farm constituency is on par with some the worst excesses of the Bush II regime.

In the meantime, the commercial salmon sector is still overcapacity by a factor of at least 20; so-called employment insurance transfers top up commercial fishing income, and the Lower Mainland and southern Vancouver Island until the bust continued to develop at a fast clip laying down vast amounts of asphalt and concrete—effective impermeable surface.  But all those issues are tough to understand  and not sexy and really hard to exploit for fund raising purposes.

Yours in wild places and wild fish -westslope



Feels less ironic than most of their other stuff. I like it. 7
supergrass > porcupine tree

two of my favorite RP finds {#Music}
 westslope wrote:

Much salmon sushi found in the market these days most likely originates from farmed Atlantic salmon.  

There may be some problems with farmed salmon hurting wild stocks of Pacific salmon in specific areas due to sea lice transfer but the overall decline in salmon numbers is being driven by something else (despite what the fund raisers in the eco-activist groups might say).

 

 

The biggest factor in the recent Pacific Coast salmon declines appears to be sea current shifts (upwellings) that have reduced the plankton at the base of the ocean food chain that feeds juvenile salmon.  Its not clear to what degree these shifts are becoming more permanent or just a temporary fluctuation during the past couple years.  Also not clear whether they are linked to climate change, but that's certainly a leading hypothesis.  Its a complicated system.    

That being said, salmon farms off BC are unquestionably having an impact more locally on the health of wild runs—sea lice are a major issue, and that science is getting better and better each year.  This is not rocket science: it should be a crime to farm raise salmon in a region where wild runs still have a shot at survival.  Shut em all down, I say, strictly on culinary grounds:  farm salmon tastes like cardboard.  Yuck!  

 Beside loving a lot of their music, I appreciate Porcupine Tree's album covers (well except for In Absentia), and this one is perhaps my favourite.  They put a lot of thought into them.
 1wolfy wrote:
{#Daisy}  {#Wave}Hi ya Slope...don't like the sound of Salmon runs diminishing...I surely enjoy my sushi

 

Much salmon sushi found in the market these days most likely originates from farmed Atlantic salmon.  

There may be some problems with farmed salmon hurting wild stocks of Pacific salmon in specific areas due to sea lice transfer but the overall decline in salmon numbers is being driven by something else (despite what the fund raisers in the eco-activist groups might say).

 


Hiya wolfy!

Just finished transcribing some notes from a conversation with a commercial salmon fisherman with 44 years of experience.

Salmon runs are collapsing up and down the coast from BC's mid-coast to California.

Temperature regime shifts me thinks.


{#Daisy}  {#Wave}Hi ya Slope...don't like the sound of Salmon runs diminishing...I surely enjoy my sushi

A sickly pink liquid that puts me to sleep
Bill loves him some Porcupine Tree.

Glad you liked it auburntigerrich.  There is a suite of songs on the CD that I'm particularly fond of:  The Rest will flow, Hatesong and Where would we be

Deadwing:  The King Crimson Thrak CD arrived in the mail c/o amazon.ca the other day.  I look forward to discovering the CD but so far it seems like I'll be listening to it by myself.  Popular it ain't.


Wow - this one gripped me at the start.  Over too soon, as well. Chalk up another PT track that rocks with reckless abandon.

I will definitely look into buying this album.  Thanks B&R!

If you go to KCs website https://www.dgmlive.com they actually have the August 7th, Park West Chicago performance available for DL for 12.95 USD. They thought it was an epic Crim performance too  {#Notworthy}  I've seen them probably 4 times (also Fripp with The League of Gentleman and solo, and Adrian Belew many times since he is from my hometown Cincinnati and was constantly gigging here while I was in High School and College) and every time was just wonderful, but this show was really special. They did a lot songs from Discipline and also quite a few off of Thrak. The Frippertronics during One Time brought me literally to tears.

What a night! And the 3 days we spent in Chicago were just amazing. We had an absolute blast!

If you are digging the Discipline sound I would recommend Thrak next  /winks   {#Jump}

Wow- we are hijacking this thread away from PT! I LOVE Lightbulb Sun- it's normally in my top 3 CDs of theirs (they rotate in and out obsessionwise, but LS is almost always up there).

BTW Gavin Harrison was absolutely on fire that night! PT is lucky to have that man on their roster  {#Drummer}

Deadwing:  Well, the potential for confusion is always there, believe me, but in this case, no.

I meant to thank you for the explanation of the sampled voice/lyrics of Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth.

The demonstrative adjective this, in my original post, pointed to the song Lighbulb Sun. My ambiguity.

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So what material from the King Crimson concert really blew you away?  I have figured out Discipline—I really like it—and am looking for a fresh Fripp/KC challenge.

In the same vein, I get Burningshed e-mails and find the menu rather overwhelming:

travis and fripp — thread

bass communion

nosound

No-man

I see Richard Barbieri is coming out with a CD entitled Stranger Inside

 




Deadwing,

Thanks for the explanation and interpretation.

For this song, I played with the notion that the lightbulb under the sheets was a metaphor for spaceship earth but what the heck do I know was running through Wilson's head?

Otherwise, I'm inclined to think that it was simply a joyous celebration of affluent middle class English life.


I was talking about "Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled"  Hope I didn't confuse you  {#Cry}

Yes, this CD is quickly becoming one of my favourite Porcupine Tree CDs.    9 => 10


Nice to catch it on RP.




What a fantastic album. I've hard to say if Lightbulb Sun or In Absentia is the best, but this album for sure contains some really good material that also was the songs that made me open my eyes for Porcupine Tree & Steven Wilsons music. Love the "Russia on Ice" track from this album.

Deadwing, Thanks for the explanation and interpretation. For this song, I played with the notion that the lightbulb under the sheets was a metaphor for spaceship earth but what the heck do I know was running through Wilson's head? Otherwise, I'm inclined to think that it was simply a joyous celebration of affluent middle class English life.
I don't understand the lyrics to Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It is Recycled. Nonetheless, the voice over punctuation is well done and some of the instrumental sections are nothing shy of incredible.
The song is divided into 2 separate sections- 1st part is entitled Winding Shot, and the 2nd part is Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled. The 2 sections are very different stylistically (which you know of course :good-vibes: ) The sampled voice during "Last Chance" is that of Marshall Applewhite (in his goodbye to Earth video)- the stellar nutbag behind the Heaven's Gate mass suicide in 1997 (remember the guys that thought their escape spaceship from Earth was behind the Hale-Bopp comet?) I think Wilson uses the first part of the song to exemplify everything that is good, innocent, and positive about us as humans, and the second part to illustrate how very wrong things in the human brain can go- and that as a species we are capable of terrifying variations of behavior and perceptions of reality.