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Pearl Jam — Bushleaguer
Album: Riot Act
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Released: 2002
Length: 3:47
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How does he do it? How do they do it? Uncanny and immutable
This is such a happening tailpipe of a party
Like sugar, the guests are so refined

A confidence man, but why so beleaguered?
He's not a leader, he's a Texas leaguer
Swinging for the fence, got lucky with a strike
Drilling for fear makes the job simple
Born on third, thinks he got a triple

Blackout weaves its way through the cities
Blackout weaves its way through the cities
Blackout weaves its way

I remember when you sang
That song about today
Now it's tomorrow and
Everything has changed

A think tank of aloof multiplication
A nicotine wish and a columbus decanter
Retrenchment and hoggishness
The aristocrat choir sings
''"What's the ruckus?"''
The haves have not a clue

The immenseness of suffering
And the odd negotiation, a rarity
With onion-skin plausibility of life
And a keyboard reaffirmation

Blackout weaves its way through the cities
Blackout weaves its way through the cities
Blackout weaves its way

I remember when you sang
That song about today
Now it's tomorrow and
Everything has changed
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Great music  PJ  : )
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 djblitz wrote:
Not sure if lots of 1 votes for the song, or because RP is infested with Bush supporters. 

 
It's not exactly the best song by Pearl Jam... although I like it a lot! But yes, 1 is probably excessive!
The overwhelming number of people in the music industry worldwide despise people like George W Bush and Donald Trump.  Mainly because they have a heart while the aforementioned politicians are sociopaths.
Not sure if lots of 1 votes for the song, or because RP is infested with Bush supporters. 
Bold message in the lyrics! Many lamentable things went down during that shameful period. Heaven help us yet if we choose to forget!
PJ defines grunge. And I mean that in a good way. 😊
I sure miss the ;puke; emoticon.
Bush was born on third and thought he got a triple.{#Flamed}
great song
petesoper wrote:
. . . I think we should factor Eddie's statement in with the rest of the discussion going on in the USA.
Fair 'nuff, I think Pipes' point is that Eddie Vetter's opinion on world affairs is not entitled to special consideration just because he's a well-known rock star. (If it's not Pipes' point, it's mine anyway.)
Pipes wrote:
Let's just keep in mind who is pointing things out. I don't think that talented as he may be, Eddie Vedder is a role model for anyone unless hard drinking is your ultimate goal in life. If you check his credentials, he is a very qualified rock star but has no education, no experience in politics, no grasp of economics nor international diplomacy. He is an american citizen and therefore has the right to express his opinion as he sees fit. But people, lets keep things in prospective, it is just a rock star's opinion. :cool:
The folks that listen to RP should be above ad hominem arguments. Some of the greatest artists in history have suffered very troubled lives, been illiterate, etc. This hasn't kept them from expressing the zeitgeist. Not to suggest Eddie is great: only more time will put that in proper "prospective." I think we should factor Eddie's statement in with the rest of the discussion going on in the USA.
CanuckBeaker wrote:
:high-five: Recommended reading: LGF
You might also try Victor Davis Hanson, James Lileks, and brothersjudd.com.
Bush approval dips below 40 percent NBC-WSJ poll shows only 28 percent believe U.S. headed in right direction By Mark Murray Political reporter NBC News Updated: 9:46 a.m. ET Oct. 13, 2005 WASHINGTON - It has been weeks since Hurricane Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast; since gas prices began spiking to record highs; and since Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, held her antiwar vigil outside President Bush's Texas ranch. But, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, the fortunes of the Bush administration and the Republican Party have not yet begun to recover. For the first time in the poll, Bush's approval rating has sunk below 40 percent, while the percentage believing the country is heading in the right direction has dipped below 30 percent. In addition, a sizable plurality prefers a Democratic-controlled Congress, and just 29 percent think Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers is qualified to serve on the nation's highest court.
I love Pearl Jam...to me the band can do very little wrong...I love their passion...but I really can't stand this song.
Last_DJ wrote:
I wonder if Eddie Vedder is ever happy, you guys ever wonder the same thing?? Bono and Michael Stipe have their causes, but they lighten up once in a while
If you ain't angry, you ain't paying attention, sonny.... Personally, I'm seriously pissed off with the governor & his fascist empire that was once America, respected by the international community for being the protectors of global freedoms...
dewinter wrote:
PJ hit one out of the park with this political track...
... make that "tract." And I don't mean that in a good way.
What happened to Pearl Jam?! :puke:
This is crap. Might make a good poem or speech -- hell, I'd even applaud -- but it's no PJ song.
Another pathetically unmelodic song caused by Bush Derangement Syndrome. If you or someone you know may be suffering from BDS, you should know that there is help available. . . .
PJ hit one out of the park with this political track...
Awful. :puke:
justDave wrote:
I don't recall...Have we discovered those weapons of mass destruction yet? Enquiring minds want to know.
Not yet, almost a year later, even though 1800 plus G.I.s have died in a war fought because of their supposed presence.
It's about time we started hearing some decent protest songs. I agree this one isn't the greatest, but it's nice to see someone besided Steve Earle stirring things up.
Geez this is crapp-tacular. Some bands are good at being politicians, some bands need to just rock out. This band needs to just rock out. But then again, maybe they can't anymore, forgot how mebbe. :roll:
That Bill sure knows how to stir things up, doesn't he? By the way, I'm a moderate republican (growing increasingly disillusioned with republicans in office, I'm sad to say) and I kind of liked this song. Remember, these are just musicians (Pearl Jam, Dixie Chicks, Springsteen, etc) expressing opinions. I've been annoyed at times at concerts when they started speaking out instead of singing, which is what I paid for (to hear them SING live). But then again, it IS their right to speak out...it's tough sometimes seeing both sides of an argument.
I miss the Even Flow days...
Last_DJ wrote:
I wonder if Eddie Vedder is ever happy, you guys ever wonder the same thing?? Bono and Michael Stipe have their causes, but they lighten up once in a while
Foolish assumption from a foolish observation. I guess you have not listened to anything after Vitalogy. And if possible check out the B-sides too, would you believe that they wrote a song about Dennis Rodman, and about a serial killer tour bus driver (supposedly).
lbrc wrote:
i am not a wealthy individual! i got a nice tax break! also, it is our money, not the governments. bush did nothing for our country you say. what about uniting our country, worldwide respect for the office again, better schools, current mid east "road map", and more recently the aid package to fight aids?
baa baa sheeple the country hasn't been this divided since the civil war. worldwide respect? you call 20 million people simultaneously protesting george bush worldwide respect? the schools got shafted (read al franken's new book for the FACTS on that) the mideast road map isn't very good cause...right now they seem pretty lost and notice, the dude never said that you didn't get a nice tax break. i got one too. but a majority of those tax breaks went to wealthy individuals and corporations. more of that money SHOULD'VE gone to the unwealthy, but instead, people like dick cheney got a $65,000 tax break.
I don\'t recall...Have we discovered those weapons of mass destruction yet? Enquiring minds want to know.
I wonder if Eddie Vedder is ever happy, you guys ever wonder the same thing?? Bono and Michael Stipe have their causes, but they lighten up once in a while
Originally Posted by veegez: Aside from Pearl Jam jumping on the Bush Hatemonger Bandwagon, their music has grown tired. Eddie Vedder & Co. take themselves much to serious to be tolerated anymore. Bored with them, but that's just me. Everyone else enjoy the Bush-Bashing party! Woo-Hoo! :)
Aside from Pearl Jam jumping on the Bush Hatemonger Bandwagon, their music has grown tired. Eddie Vedder & Co. take themselves much to serious to be tolerated anymore. Bored with them, but that\'s just me. Everyone else enjoy the Bush-Bashing party! Woo-Hoo! :)
Ahhh, the sot has spoken. :roll:
YEP, BECAUSE GORE WROTE A BOOK
Your right, Gore knows how to write. Gore also completed his entire military duty.:clap: Where was the grounded pilot Bush? AWOL '72-73? There are thousands of unclaimed USD for anyone who can prove Bush didn't go AWOL between 1972-1973. awolbush.com go for it! the money prize is waiting to be collected! :wave:
originally posted by pipes: as i recall, after all the official and unofficial recounts, bush and not gore did win the vote in fl. in that it is who wins the electorial college and not the "popular vote", i'd say bush was elected.
yep, because gore wrote a book nobody has bought, and bush is running things! not to mention that his own state of tenn. didn't even want him. had he won that, florida would not have been an issue. :lol: :lol: edited by lbrc at 10:56 am on 6/12/2003
Originally Posted by Pipes: As I recall, after all the official and unofficial recounts, Bush and not Gore did win the vote in FL. In that it is who wins the electorial college and not the "popular vote", I'd say Bush was elected.
I think you need to recheck/consider the source of your information. The bottom line is, dubya's bro being governor of the state did affect how the vote was processed and gotten, even to the point of preventing potential voters (alot of which were minorities) from even being able to get through to the polls. And that does not constitute a legal election, at least not according to the Constitution (but this admin's trampled on that to the point of extinction so far so I guess that wouldn't matter much to all pro-dubyas out there) :eek: :rolleyes: :oops: :(
Originally Posted by orpheus: right on, being voted into the Presidency by ONE Supreme Court Justice (check your facts all naysayers) is NOT DULY ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE of this country!!!!!!!!! and oh by the way, doesn't anybody wonder or care that all the "weapons of mass destruction" they are spending all our tax money on to seize were never found?!?! I would think that the families of the people killed over there (American and Iraqi) would. :p :??:
As I recall, after all the official and unofficial recounts, Bush and not Gore did win the vote in FL. In that it is who wins the electorial college and not the "popular vote", I'd say Bush was elected.
originally posted by orpheus: right on, being voted into the presidency by one supreme court justice (check your facts all naysayers) is not duly elected by the people of this country!!!!!!!!! and oh by the way, doesn't anybody wonder or care that all the "weapons of mass destruction" they are spending all our tax money on to seize were never found?!?! i would think that the families of the people killed over there (american and iraqi) would. :p :??:
i agree with the weapons clause. it was a big selling point. however, it's not over yet. what happens if they find these weapons tomorrow? i feel you will not be swayed of your opinion. and again, the supreme court only upheald the legality of florida's electoral college, and lower state court.
Originally Posted by kern: An OK song with lyrics that express the right sentiments. The war in Iraq is immoral and people like Eddie Vedder are heroes for speaking out even though right wing corporations like Clear Channel will undoubtedly try to punish them for it. As for the Dixie Chicks, their album didn't drop at all in the charts and their concerts continue to sell out so I guess they weren't hurt by all the so-called bad publicity. I'm just glad that the unelected idiot's term ends in 19 months.
right on, being voted into the Presidency by ONE Supreme Court Justice (check your facts all naysayers) is NOT DULY ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE of this country!!!!!!!!! and oh by the way, doesn't anybody wonder or care that all the "weapons of mass destruction" they are spending all our tax money on to seize were never found?!?! I would think that the families of the people killed over there (American and Iraqi) would. :p :??:
originally posted by neutrino: imho, artists that take a stand to point out the obvious hypocrisy, inequities, and alternative viewpoints are doing exactly what they should be doing - using their talents in a brave and courageous manner to illustrate problems in our society. not that i am a pj fan, but i applaud their efforts to make a statement and wish them and other artists who challenge the status quo well. :clap:
oh. . . that's why we have music in our society. it's not only entertainment or art, it's a voice to sway public opinion.
Originally Posted by LBRC: actually, in another country, they speak as americans first, texans second, dixie chicks third. as if the person who posed the question wanted to know what the band thought-more like what america is thinking. as far as boycotting- they need to take responsibility as well as the consequences for their actions. they offened alot of people- how can they expect not to be boycotted- all this liberal,pass the buck, it's not my fault crap!
Any person outside of her own country becomes a *spokesperson* for the entire country whenever she opens her mouth? The namecalling and stereotypical generalizing at the end of this paragraph pretty much ends any connection you had with credibility. I do agree with you that the Chicks should take responsibility for their actions. If they speak up against war and their sales suffer, well, sometimes that's the price of taking a stand. I think the song is pretty neat. Some clever lines, as noted below. Sure, Bush is an easy target, but he's a big, dangerous easy target, which makes it worthwhile to target him.
originally posted by jdemmers: that's right, he was elected - by the supreme court.
please check your records. the supreme court upheld a lower courts judgment enforcing the florida state law. wasn't it more an issue of time. wait, lets rewrite the existing laws so they favor our agenda? dumb ass! :moon: the world acknologes bush as our president, keep beating your blind democratic (as in liberal) drum.edited by lbrc at 3:32 pm on 6/10/2003
Originally Posted by jdemmers: That's right, he was elected - by the Supreme Court.
And your point is...?
Originally Posted by great_one: He was elected. The popular vote is not how our election process was set up by the founding fathers. Who is the idiot? :??:
That's right, he was elected - by the Supreme Court.
It upsets people when you play this apparently. Please play it more! :lol:
originally posted by riffster: a lot of music - and classic music - has been recorded with heavily political messages in it. it's all about point-of-view. so don't tell me it isn't music - it just isn't *your* kind of music! :)
pearl jam made great music at one point- they lost that ability years ago, therefore all that is left is the (weak) sheeple feeding message.
i thought when the dixie chicks expressed their opinions they were expressing their opinions, not "speaking for the majority"? that appears to be your twist on things. and that sentence alone embodies the problem with people who are boycotting the dixie chicks - *you* think you are speaking for the majority
actually, in another country, they speak as americans first, texans second, dixie chicks third. as if the person who posed the question wanted to know what the band thought-more like what america is thinking. as far as boycotting- they need to take responsibility as well as the consequences for their actions. they offened alot of people- how can they expect not to be boycotted- all this liberal,pass the buck, it's not my fault crap!
the bandwagon rush to support an illegal war because of a tragic event that no one has ever proved has any link to iraq shows the sad state of affairs in this country.
illegal? congress gave the power to the president. the president gave a declaration of war. a coalition was formed (except the countries with business ties) i don't like war, but we are in one. so support the country and the troops. or just protest like a fool with the "minority"
terrorism is not simply a manifestation of evil - although it certainly has that component - it is a sign of real problems elsewhere in the world. these problems don't justify terrorism, but they certainly give rise to it. why else would there be such popularity for it amongst the downtrodden and desperate countries of the world. all it took was some zealots and some cash for the frustration and pain of millions to be expressed by maniacs.
yes! so lets live life as usual and wait for it to happen again? we are in this mess, now it' s time to wipe it up.
we won't solve the problem by killing terrorists - although we will have to prosecute and seek them out legally - we must help address problems like aids, poverty, pollution, and corruption because all of these problems aid in destroying civlized society and promoting desperate tactics like terrorism.
aids, poverty and polution did not contribute to hating americans- it is our constant aid and support to anti muslim countries (ie: isreal) and our wasteful ungrateful ways of life that go against their radical beliefs.
bush is using 9/11 as an excuse for a reactionary agenda that involves inflicting our power on regions of the world that his handlers deem important (a certain mr.rove for example) and will aid in propping up a pathetic administration that has done nothing for the country itself except give tax breaks to the wealthier citizens.
i am not a wealthy individual! i got a nice tax break! also, it is our money, not the governments. bush did nothing for our country you say. what about uniting our country, worldwide respect for the office again, better schools, current mid east "road map", and more recently the aid package to fight aids?
we have established a horrible precedent with this war - one that i fear will encourage other countries to arm themselves even more strongly so as to escape the wrath of the usa. as proof, look to north korea, who has been far more egregious in their lawless behavior than iraq ever was. but they have nukes and also china and russia happen to be close by - so we invade the easy target iraq. the war wasn't about justice or even oil, it was about politics and power.
wars are always about power! china and russia agree with the united states. north korea is a differant kind of war but still a war. it is also a recent developement, unlike iraq. we are not a country that conquers others at a whim. if there is a reason for war, we will fight. other countries can arm themselves all they want. fear is the best way to fight off a war.
i believe i am thinking for myself now and don't care whether it is for the majority or not - so you may now begin your boycott of me lbrc. - riff
what ever that means? as like the dixie chicks, i don't think what your selling is any good to begin with. :lol:edited by lbrc at 9:03 am on 6/02/2003
Originally Posted by neutrino: IMHO, artists that take a stand to point out the obvious hypocrisy, inequities, and alternative viewpoints are doing exactly what they should be doing - using their talents in a brave and courageous manner to illustrate problems in our society. Not that I am a PJ fan, but I applaud their efforts to make a statement and wish them and other artists who challenge the status quo well. :clap:
Let's just keep in mind who is pointing things out. I don't think that talented as he may be, Eddie Vedder is a role model for anyone unless hard drinking is your ultimate goal in life. If you check his credentials, he is a very qualified rock star but has no education, no experience in politics, no grasp of economics nor international diplomacy. He is an american citizen and therefore has the right to express his opinion as he sees fit. But people, lets keep things in prospective, it is just a rock star's opinion. :cool:
IMHO, artists that take a stand to point out the obvious hypocrisy, inequities, and alternative viewpoints are doing exactly what they should be doing - using their talents in a brave and courageous manner to illustrate problems in our society. Not that I am a PJ fan, but I applaud their efforts to make a statement and wish them and other artists who challenge the status quo well. :clap:
originally posted by lbrc: i support the right to free speach! i also support the right to boycot anyone who thinks they speak for the majority and have something stupid to say. for springsteen to say anything in favor of what the dixie chicks said just makes him an evan bigger idiot- as if the majority of the country, or the world cares about what the "boss" has to say- and what does any of this have to do with pearl jam? since when is pearl jam a spoksperson for liberals- oh wait, when they hooked up with that drip neil young-another "patriot". people-this is not music! it's some "all important political message" with instruments in the background to be fed to the sheeple you all are. wake up and use your brains. :evil:
a lot of music - and classic music - has been recorded with heavily political messages in it. woody guthrie - as american as they come - is just one example. the star-spangled banner would have been regarded as "all-important sheeple feeding" by certain segments of english aristocracy too lbrc. it's all about point-of-view. so don't tell me it isn't music - it just isn't *your* kind of music! :) i thought when the dixie chicks expressed their opinions they were expressing their opinions, not "speaking for the majority"? that appears to be your twist on things. and that sentence alone embodies the problem with people who are boycotting the dixie chicks - *you* think you are speaking for the majority and, as a result, are allowed to cow and muzzle anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion. that's called "tyranny of the majority" and i thought it wasn't supposed to be part of a democracy. the bandwagon rush to support an illegal war because of a tragic event that no one has ever proved has any link to iraq shows the sad state of affairs in this country. terrorism is not simply a manifestation of evil - although it certainly has that component - it is a sign of real problems elsewhere in the world. these problems don't justify terrorism, but they certainly give rise to it. why else would there be such popularity for it amongst the downtrodden and desperate countries of the world. all it took was some zealots and some cash for the frustration and pain of millions to be expressed by maniacs. we won't solve the problem by killing terrorists - although we will have to prosecute and seek them out legally - we must help address problems like aids, poverty, pollution, and corruption because all of these problems aid in destroying civlized society and promoting desperate tactics like terrorism. bush is using 9/11 as an excuse for a reactionary agenda that involves inflicting our power on regions of the world that his handlers deem important (a certain mr.rove for example) and will aid in propping up a pathetic administration that has done nothing for the country itself except give tax breaks to the wealthier citizens. we have established a horrible precedent with this war - one that i fear will encourage other countries to arm themselves even more strongly so as to escape the wrath of the usa. as proof, look to north korea, who has been far more egregious in their lawless behavior than iraq ever was. but they have nukes and also china and russia happen to be close by - so we invade the easy target iraq. the war wasn't about justice or even oil, it was about politics and power. i believe i am thinking for myself now and don't care whether it is for the majority or not - so you may now begin your boycott of me lbrc. - riff
Wahhh Wahhh :cry: , Whine, Garble, Blah! Havent we heard enough of this garbage??
Is Eddy Vedder going for the mumbling ozzy osbourne effect?
originally posted by mperry: speaking of the dixie chicks, bruce springsteen weighs in: springsteen offers support to dixie chicks (4/23/03, 7 a.m. et) -- bruce springsteen has issued a statement supporting the country trio the dixie chicks, who have suffered backlash, ...a british concert audience in march protesting president george bush's actions towards iraq. posted at brucespringsteen.net, springsteen's statement reads: "the dixie chicks have taken a big hit lately ...for speaking out is un-american. the pressure...to enforce conformity of thought concerning the war and politics goes against everything that this country is about - namely freedom. right now, we are supposedly fighting to create free speech in iraq, ...to those who think that the dixie chicks are getting a raw deal, and an un-american one to boot. i send them my support." springsteen has made anti-war statements of his own during his concerts this year--sometimes playing the late motown singer edwin starr's protest hit "war"--and in other concert comments has also bemoaned the loss of civil liberties.
i support the right to free speach! i also support the right to boycot anyone who thinks they speak for the majority and have something stupid to say. for springsteen to say anything in favor of what the dixie chicks said just makes him an evan bigger idiot- as if the majority of the country, or the world cares about what the "boss" has to say- and what does any of this have to do with pearl jam? since when is pearl jam a spoksperson for liberals- oh wait, when they hooked up with that drip neil young-another "patriot". people-this is not music! it's some "all important political message" with instruments in the background to be fed to the sheeple you all are. wake up and use your brains. :evil:
Originally Posted by kern: ... right wing corporations like Clear Channel will undoubtedly try to punish them for it. As for the Dixie Chicks, their album didn't drop at all in the charts and their concerts continue to sell out so I guess they weren't hurt by all the so-called bad publicity.
Speaking of the Dixie Chicks, Bruce Springsteen weighs in: Springsteen Offers Support To Dixie Chicks (4/23/03, 7 a.m. ET) -- Bruce Springsteen has issued a statement supporting the country trio the Dixie Chicks, who have suffered backlash, including radio playlist bans, after singer Natalie Maines' comments to a British concert audience in March protesting President George Bush's actions towards Iraq. Posted at brucespringsteen.net, Springsteen's statement reads: "The Dixie Chicks have taken a big hit lately for exercising their basic right to express themselves, To me, they're terrific American artists expressing American values by using their American right to free speech. For them to be banished wholesale from radio stations, and even entire radio networks, for speaking out is un-American. The pressure coming from the government and big business to enforce conformity of thought concerning the war and politics goes against everything that this country is about - namely freedom. Right now, we are supposedly fighting to create free speech in Iraq, at the same time that some are trying to intimidate and punish people for using that same freedom here at home. I don't know what happens next, but I do want to add my voice to those who think that the Dixie Chicks are getting a raw deal, and an un-American one to boot. I send them my support." Springsteen has made anti-war statements of his own during his concerts this year--sometimes playing the late Motown singer Edwin Starr's protest hit "War"--and in other concert comments has also bemoaned the loss of civil liberties.
Originally Posted by Platypus: "drilling for fear makes the job simple" right on.
great lyric, isn't it? For those interested, here is a review of Pearl Jam's concert last night in St. Louis.... Pearl Jam refocuses on the music in fulfilling show The band remains a dominant force in its live shows. By KEVIN C. JOHNSON Post-Dispatch 04/23/2003 Pearl Jam fans who turned out looking for the sort of controversy that accompanied the tour opener in Denver might have been initially disappointed by the grunge pioneers' Savvis Center concert Tuesday night. But the disappointment was certainly short, considering the invigorating set the band delivered. (Would fans accept anything less?) At the Denver show earlier this month, during an encore performance of the song "Bushleaguer" from the band's latest CD "Riot Act," singer Eddie Vedder impaled a mask of President George W. Bush on a microphone stand. A smattering of fans booed and told Vedder to shut up as the singer used his platform to express anti-war views during the height of the war in Iraq. By the time the tour found its way to St. Louis, Vedder had eliminated the mask stunt and softened his remarks. Near the end of the show, he told the crowd it was important to get whatever they were feeling out in the open, to express themselves, whether through painting, writing or communicating. "Just not fighting," Vedder said, before performing "Indifference" from the 1993 CD "Vs." After hitting the road with a bang and garnering headlines the tour wouldn't have had otherwise, Pearl Jam is quietly retreating into its above-standard rock show minus the political overtones. Even a poke at Bill Gates during a song about greed, "Soon Forget," which Vedder performed solo on ukulele, was scaled back. Vedder had been using a Gates mask when he performed the song, but that is now gone. But, in the end, what mattered was that Pearl Jam's music remains strong 12 years after the band's debut. Although it may not be a megaforce on the CD sales charts anymore - neither "Riot Act" nor its singles are on the Billboard charts this week - the band remains a dominant force in its live shows. Pearl Jam came to rock over the course of its fulfilling 2 1/2-hour concert. Fans came ready for a good time, too, with "Eddie Vedder for President" T-shirts, balloons with song requests on them - fans who requested the classic "Black" got their wish - and participatory hand claps, fist pumps, arm waves and Bic flicks. Pearl Jam mixed up favorites ("Even Flow," "Daughter," "Go," "Rearviewmirror") with rarely performed songs ("Sleight of Hand" from "Binaural") and "Riot Act" selections ("You Are," "Green Disease") for a set that featured firepower without any actual pyrotechnics. Vedder, who remains one of rock's greatest voices, was never more lively than he was on "Alive," as the crowd watched him bounce around, smile and hype up fans from the corner of the stage. Guitarist Mike McCready delivered several showy solos that entertained despite their excess. With concerts as vital as this one, Pearl Jam reestablishes why it's one of the modern-rock era's most necessary acts. Sparta opened the concert.
originally posted by lbrc: bla bla bla. . . . save it ! the only good pj album was the first- ten! the rest went down hill, regardless of the lyrics- that explains the lack of airplay! :evil: :lol: :lol: :lol:
what sort of station do you listen to? i hear plenty of pearl jam radio play - both old and new.edited by mperry at 2:12 pm on 4/23/2003
originally posted by kern: an ok song with lyrics that express the right sentiments. the war in iraq is immoral and people like eddie vedder are heroes for speaking out even though right wing corporations like clear channel will undoubtedly try to punish them for it. as for the dixie chicks, their album didn't drop at all in the charts and their concerts continue to sell out so i guess they weren't hurt by all the so-called bad publicity. i'm just glad that the unelected idiot's term ends in 19 months.
bla bla bla. . . . save it ! the only good pj album was the first- ten! the rest went down hill, regardless of the lyrics- that explains the lack of airplay! :evil: :lol: :lol: :lol:edited by lbrc at 2:02 pm on 4/23/2003
Originally Posted by kern: An OK song with lyrics that express the right sentiments. The war in Iraq is immoral and people like Eddie Vedder are heroes for speaking out even though right wing corporations like Clear Channel will undoubtedly try to punish them for it. As for the Dixie Chicks, their album didn't drop at all in the charts and their concerts continue to sell out so I guess they weren't hurt by all the so-called bad publicity. I'm just glad that the unelected idiot's term ends in 19 months.
He was elected. The popular vote is not how our election process was set up by the founding fathers. Who is the idiot? :??:
Originally Posted by kern: An OK song with lyrics that express the right sentiments. The war in Iraq is immoral and people like Eddie Vedder are heroes for speaking out even though right wing corporations like Clear Channel will undoubtedly try to punish them for it. As for the Dixie Chicks, their album didn't drop at all in the charts and their concerts continue to sell out so I guess they weren't hurt by all the so-called bad publicity. I'm just glad that the unelected idiot's term ends in 19 months.
bitter, table for one...what do you tell the parents of the 100+ kids that were locked up in hussein's gulag? we shouldn't have interfered?...the inspectors might have found them in a few years?...have you ever had one of your kids taken away to force you to comply with a corrupt government? tell me again about the "immoral" part? if clinton ran this war, you wouldn't say a thing...you're just bitter about bush winning in florida, and you are letting this bitterness literally drive you insane. it's actually fun to watch.
Time for the real guys... Zeppelin!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
An OK song with lyrics that express the right sentiments. The war in Iraq is immoral and people like Eddie Vedder are heroes for speaking out even though right wing corporations like Clear Channel will undoubtedly try to punish them for it. As for the Dixie Chicks, their album didn\'t drop at all in the charts and their concerts continue to sell out so I guess they weren\'t hurt by all the so-called bad publicity. I\'m just glad that the unelected idiot\'s term ends in 19 months.
Hear Hear! The Warbling wonder has gone too far with his PC crap!
Originally Posted by patriot: I'm just gonna say it like it is. What a bunch of crap! What makes all of these rock stars and hollywood bumbling fools think that making some kind of political statement is going to help resurrect their decaying carreer? Or do they think to make one final statement before they get blown away by the wind? Pearl Jam obviously has not gotten the message like the Dixie Chix and Madonna... they will soon enough, though. And what the hell is all the talk about oil for? Let's look at some facts. We get how much oil from the middle east? 24% is the highest number I've found yet. And how much from Iraq? 7%?? Give me cold hard facts! Eddie Vedder couldn't find a reasonable adult to absorb his absurdities so he spews them out to his naive punk-age listeners who blindly idolize his work. He already tried when he spoke out against NASA, a topic I'm sure any grunge band out of Seatle is SO knowledgeable about, and got shot down making a fool of himself. I mean, let me give credit where credit is due. He is an extremely talented MUSICIAN and entertainer, nothing more. For him to make such disgusting statements towards the president of our country at such a critical time is dispicable. As the old cliche goes... "Don't quit your day job, Eddie." This is one former fan who has bought his last Pearl Jam album.
I\'m just gonna say it like it is. What a bunch of crap! What makes all of these rock stars and hollywood bumbling fools think that making some kind of political statement is going to help resurrect their decaying carreer? Or do they think to make one final statement before they get blown away by the wind? Pearl Jam obviously has not gotten the message like the Dixie Chix and Madonna... they will soon enough, though. And what the hell is all the talk about oil for? Let\'s look at some facts. We get how much oil from the middle east? 24% is the highest number I\'ve found yet. And how much from Iraq? 7%?? Give me cold hard facts! Eddie Vedder couldn\'t find a reasonable adult to absorb his absurdities so he spews them out to his naive punk-age listeners who blindly idolize his work. He already tried when he spoke out against NASA, a topic I\'m sure any grunge band out of Seatle is SO knowledgeable about, and got shot down making a fool of himself. I mean, let me give credit where credit is due. He is an extremely talented MUSICIAN and entertainer, nothing more. For him to make such disgusting statements towards the president of our country at such a critical time is dispicable. As the old cliche goes... \"Don\'t quit your day job, Eddie.\" This is one former fan who has bought his last Pearl Jam album.
What the hell is this crap? I like a lot of Pearl Jam stuff, and I\'ve never heard this before. What were they thinking?!
\"drilling for fear makes the job simple\" right on.
i suppose the training 747 fuselage in iraq that they used to help train hijackers how to effectively take over was merely a coincidence?...after the last gulf war, the price of gas dropped after the war was over...so who got rich off of that?...if oil was the big deal, we\'re already in kuwait...they\'ve got more oil than they know what to do with...we could take it over tomorrow, if it really was about oil...as for the innocents that\'ll be killed, most of the ones killed will be ones put in the way by hussein...the rest will be free when we finish...you know, freedom...it\'s that concept that\'s talked about a lot by the left, but not really desired when you get right down to it...
Originally Posted by generalissimo: ...what part of 'they want us all dead' do all these people not understand?
The countless women and children that no doubt are gonna die as a result of this war too? They want all of you dead too? :cry:
sheesh. these are the same people that jumped all over bush's case three months after 9/11, demanding to know what he knew and when he knew it, and why he didn't do anything to prevent it. now bush is doing that,
Huh? Were they (Dubbya and his Klan) able to show any link at all between Al-Quaeda and Iraq? No, because there isn't any. I believe it was Time-Europe who investigated how much percent of US-citizens believed that one or more of the 9-11 terrorists came from Iraq. I believe only 5% or so had it right: none of the terrorists had any connection to Iraq! This war will be about oil and money, not about terrorism. They (Bush and his Klan) are already dividing up Iraq, who gets what part, before one square meter has been conquered. :frustrated:
so nice that this is played practically on a daily basis. :roll: (yawn)
another thoughtless p.c. tune about something they know nothing about...what part of \'they want us all dead\' do all these people not understand? sheesh. these are the same people that jumped all over bush\'s case three months after 9/11, demanding to know what he knew and when he knew it, and why he didn\'t do anything to prevent it. now bush is doing that, and he still gets grief..can\'t have it both ways... :frustrated:
Originally Posted by great_one: How much will you profit from it ? You drive a car don't you?
I would happily pay $8 a gallon for gas like the rest of the world does if it meant we ceased meddling in foreign affairs under the guise of "humanitarian" invervention, or to clean up the mess we made previously in ensuring cheap oil. For a country that supposedly believes in the free market, we sure have a lot of price fixes in. If the rest of the world has oil and doesn't want to sell it to us, that's their RIGHT. If they want to jack up the prices, that's their RIGHT. It's THEIR oil. The free market would dictate that if prices got too high, we should seek alternative oil sources and alternative energy sources. But then if the SUV driver has to pay the same price for gas as the rest of the world, they won't be able to afford to drive them. What THEN will they drive to compensate for their tiny phallus? You're RIGHT -- start bombing NOW!!!
I\'m just thrilled to hear some Pearl Jam that isn\'t done to death on the radio! Woohoo!! As for what he said, I have to admit I really didn\'t pay any attention...just heard that so-sexy-Vedder voice and didn\'t really care...was it political? hehe I\'m one of those weird folks who never pays attention to lyrics that much, just the music, and the quality of and the emotion in the voice.
Originally Posted by mperry: First, "bitter young man rock" - get a clue would you? Have you listened to anything since "Alive"? The last few Pearl Jam albums have been thoughtful and of depth - without the stifling concern of having a "hit". The result of that journey is RIOT ACT - a superior album with their strongest and, as it happens, most accessible album since VS. RIOT ACT gets better with every listen. It is truly Album Rock as it once was. Solid. Get the cd, listen to the music and the words; read the lyrics if need be. It is a rewarding album. I'm raving, but this is excellent work. Many, many good songs, with "Bushleaguer" actually being one of the weaker ones. "Save You", "Can't Keep", "Love Boat Captain", "Thumbing My Way" and "I Am Mine" are top notch songs which even Fulker could love - if only they were heard. Too bad that is being ruled out by Mr. Fulker - which leads to... From Rave to Rant... So because Pearl Jam put their opinion of GWB to music and you dislike the sentiment and/or the execution, you won't buy another of their cd's? Is it political expression in music that you dislike or just that particular opinion from Pearl Jam? And it is fine if you dislike the band, the song, me and anything else. But, how much education, what qualifications, must one have before it is acceptable to express an opinion? Are people less informed because, essentially, you disagree with their sentiment? Living the 'ol "rock star" life, I would imagine Eddie and the boys might well have ample time to read up on what's up - quite likely more time for study than most. Ah, but the end result is not to your liking so he is "dumb". I don't know about you, but in my time I have met MANY a college "educated" person that wasn't. By the way, is all of the Lennon output - as one example - dismissed by you for the same reason as that used against Pearl Jam: some of the songs having political expression (many would say simplistic or idealistic) with which you disagree. Or, as I said earlier, maybe it is all political expression with which you disagree or find foolish. Or political expression by the "wrong" people. Whatever, nevermind. I am glad Pearl Jam, faced life, trudged onward and kept on keeping on. "Riot Act" is mostly personal, not political, but I will still buy Pearl Jam cd's anyway. :cool:
Who's gonna read this? And it is fine if you dislike the band, the song, me and anything else. But, how much education, what qualifications, must one have before it is acceptable to express an opinion? Are people less informed because, essentially, you disagree with their sentiment? Living the 'ol "rock star" life, I would imagine Eddie and the boys might well have ample time to read up on what's up - quite likely more time for study than most. Ah, but the end result is not to your liking so he is "dumb". I don't know about you, but in my time I have met MANY a college "educated" person that wasn't. By the way, is all of the Lennon output - as one example - dismissed by you for the same reason as that used against Pearl Jam: some of the songs having political expression (many would say simplistic or idealistic) with which you disagree. Or, as I said earlier, maybe it is all political expression with which you disagree or find foolish. Or political expression by the "wrong" people. Whatever, nevermind. I am glad Pearl Jam, faced life, trudged onward and kept on keeping on. "Riot Act" is mostly personal, not political, but I will still buy Pearl Jam cd's anyway. :cool:
Who's gonna read this?
One of the better descriptions of GWB that I\'ve heard in a long time: \"Born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.\" Brilliant. :clap:
An aptly named song. :eek:
Originally Posted by justDave: I wonder exactly how much Bush and his buddies will stand to profit from his war? Oil interests have nothing to do with it Im sure. Right? Right?
How much will you profit from it? You drive a car don't you?
Haven\'t really been a fan of anything they\'ve released since Vitalogy. This is definitely a resurgent album for Eddie and the boys. I give this song and the album an 8.
:moon:
I wonder exactly how much Bush and his buddies will stand to profit from his war? Oil interests have nothing to do with it Im sure. Right? Right?
Originally Posted by fulker: The last thing i need is a clown with half a highschool education and no career left making political statments. He should stick to bitter young man rock. This is the last time I buy a pearl jam cd. :moon:
First, "bitter young man rock" - get a clue would you? Have you listened to anything since "Alive"? The last few Pearl Jam albums have been thoughtful and of depth - without the stifling concern of having a "hit". The result of that journey is RIOT ACT - a superior album with their strongest and, as it happens, most accessible album since VS. RIOT ACT gets better with every listen. It is truly Album Rock as it once was. Solid. Get the cd, listen to the music and the words; read the lyrics if need be. It is a rewarding album. I'm raving, but this is excellent work. Many, many good songs, with "Bushleaguer" actually being one of the weaker ones. "Save You", "Can't Keep", "Love Boat Captain", "Thumbing My Way" and "I Am Mine" are top notch songs which even Fulker could love - if only they were heard. Too bad that is being ruled out by Mr. Fulker - which leads to... From Rave to Rant... So because Pearl Jam put their opinion of GWB to music and you dislike the sentiment and/or the execution, you won't buy another of their cd's? Is it political expression in music that you dislike or just that particular opinion from Pearl Jam? And it is fine if you dislike the band, the song, me and anything else. But, how much education, what qualifications, must one have before it is acceptable to express an opinion? Are people less informed because, essentially, you disagree with their sentiment? Living the 'ol "rock star" life, I would imagine Eddie and the boys might well have ample time to read up on what's up - quite likely more time for study than most. Ah, but the end result is not to your liking so he is "dumb". I don't know about you, but in my time I have met MANY a college "educated" person that wasn't. By the way, is all of the Lennon output - as one example - dismissed by you for the same reason as that used against Pearl Jam: some of the songs having political expression (many would say simplistic or idealistic) with which you disagree. Or, as I said earlier, maybe it is all political expression with which you disagree or find foolish. Or political expression by the "wrong" people. Whatever, nevermind. I am glad Pearl Jam, faced life, trudged onward and kept on keeping on. "Riot Act" is mostly personal, not political, but I will still buy Pearl Jam cd's anyway. :cool:
Is it me, or does Eddie\'s beginning conjure up visions of, \"Silence of the Lambs\"? \"...it rubs the lotion on the skin, or else it gets the hose again...put the f**kin\' lotion in the basket!\" :wave:
Originally Posted by fulker: The last thing i need is a clown with half a highschool education and no career left making political statments. He should stick to bitter young man rock. This is the last time I buy a pearl jam cd. :moon:
since this song is getting regular airplay, i'm going to reply again with a borrowed/paraphrased comment i read on the song comments for another song on RP, and agree with: " This piece is not music. It is, however, a great way to alienate many listeners. I'm guessing many of them contributing listeners. (Pearl Jam) does some great stuff, but it's way too easy for (them) to spew uninformed criticism at every conservative concept and government institution that pops in (their)jaded head(s). I love this station and respect people with different opinions, but there is nothing constructive here."
Originally Posted by fulker: The last thing i need is a clown with half a highschool education and no career left making political statments. He should stick to bitter young man rock. This is the last time I buy a pearl jam cd. :moon:
yeah. the last time i did was for 10. :rolleyes: i'm a huge fan of john cale...and i bet he's cringing hearing the comparisons here.
Originally Posted by mrrmaid1: i am sure he wasn't going for this response, but i think he sounds damn sexy when he's angry.
mrrmaid1, Now your a girl I'd like to work up a complete analysis on..... ;)
Originally Posted by bc: Uh.... Were you talking about Eddie or Dubbya?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: bc you hit that reply square on!
It\'s as if Eddie doesn\'t think we get it or something.
PJ can do much better than this piece of crap.
i am sure he wasn\'t going for this response, but i think he sounds damn sexy when he\'s angry.
Does anyone else hear the baseline of BOC\'s \"Godzilla\"??
Cool tune. I only wish the lyrics would have touched on how bushie and the saudies are lovers :clap:
Originally Posted by fulker: The last thing i need is a clown with half a highschool education and no career left making political statments. He should stick to bitter young man rock. This is the last time I buy a pearl jam cd. :moon:
So you'd instead prefer your president to have half a high school education? I'm sure Bush was among those who didn't know where Afghanistan was on the map until just prior to bombing it.
Originally Posted by fulker: The last thing i need is a clown with half a highschool education and no career left making political statments. :moon:
Uh.... Were you talking about Eddie or Dubbya?
I can\'t believe that this track has a 6.4!!!! I know it\'s not because Eddie is trouncing Dubba while we\'re at \"war\" :moon: :moon:
Originally Posted by yeastiebeastie: Every time I hear this song I think it's John Cale. That's a compliment.
You beat me to it! It sounds like Eddie went out of his way to sound like John Cale on this one, right down to the vocal inflections. And I admire John Cale quite a bit.
Every time I hear this song I think it\'s John Cale. That\'s a compliment.
The last thing i need is a clown with half a highschool education and no career left making political statments. He should stick to bitter young man rock. This is the last time I buy a pearl jam cd. :moon:
Originally Posted by mperry: I generally don't care that much for rap. But interesting to hear Eddie and PJ rave and wail. I'll want to hear it a few more times. Nice follow up with another "rapper" I enjoy, Lennon.
Well its been a few weeks. My vote is positive. I like it; sounds better every time.
Originally Posted by Relayer: I like it.....of course, it is real easy for Eddie to pick on a president with an IQ less than my cat, but neverless, I like to hear some political issues in music now and then.
:lol: i agree on all counts!
I like it.....of course, it is real easy for Eddie to pick on a president with an IQ less than my cat, but neverless, I like to hear some political issues in music now and then.
Born on third, thinks he got a triple...Ya triple brain by-pass.....
Right on. Was born on third.... :)
Definetly Lou Reedish - first time I\'ve heard it. I may need to hear this song in the context of the whole cd.
Like it. Lou Reed-esque.
Talk about Bushleaguer. Gee, I guess it\'s too much to expect rational thought from has beens. Sorry, guess that was mean spirited hunh? Seems like the song was also. :frustrated:
I generally don't care that much for rap. But interesting to hear Eddie and PJ rave and wail. I'll want to hear it a few more times. Nice follow up with another "rapper" I enjoy, Lennon.