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Television — 1880 Or So
Album: Television
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Released: 1992
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O rose of my heart, can't you see
I don't belong to misery
Though she speaks fine with subtle art
Such misery clothes the rose of my heart.

Now what I see in the long twilight
A star falls down on a hill so white
On a hill so white.

A face that glows in a golden hue
No-one in this world knows what they do
I take my oath and I make my vow
For the tender things are upon me now.

In the fragrance sweet of the evening air
I could leave this world quite without a care.

O rose of my heart, the vision dims
the time is brief, now the shadow swims,
A powerful a real fine hat
Cause that's for you and that's where that's at.

Now what I see in the long twilight
A star falls down on a hill so white.

O rose of my heart
O rose of my heart
O rose of my heart.
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The live versions of this are much more energetic, TV and RL nearly reprising the intensity of Marque Moon. Check out the Academy of Music 1992 album, which was recently re-mastered; Y tube clips of their appearance around that time on Jools Holland’s BBC program are better still. 
Posted 1 month ago by mjstern    [ Reply ]
 dragon1952 wrote:

I hear Lou Reed more than anyone else. Quite likeable.



Definitely
Posted 1 month ago by LeftShoe    [ Reply ]
 sunnyS wrote:
 
 TV on the Radio



Well now - I haven't heard that for decades 
Posted 3 months ago by rtrt    [ Reply ]
Mighty fine indeed.  Mighty fine.
Posted 5 months ago by liveaudio608    [ Reply ]
 m3andros wrote:

The lead singer for Television sounds eerily similar to Lou Reed. Agree?



Agreed!
Posted 7 months ago by bluecshells    [ Reply ]
Brian Ferry, sound like...
Posted 7 months ago by johnfiva    [ Reply ]
Oop! Thought it was Lloyd Cole 
Posted 9 months ago by siqbal    [ Reply ]
Oddly enough, I don't recall ever hearing these guys on the radio back in the 90's when it was released. Well, perhaps not so oddly.
Thank you, RP. Hearing things I've never heard before is why I subscribe.
Posted 11 months ago by everettwa    [ Reply ]
Lloyd Cole all day!!
Posted 11 months ago by costoonces    [ Reply ]
 adavey wrote:

Lloyd Cole, anyone?




Cousin, don't be ridiculous. 
Posted 1 year ago by Pjesnik    [ Reply ]
In recent interviews marking the amazing 40-year anniversary of Stop Making Sense, Chris Frantz (with the other Heads sitting and nodding right next to him, believe it or not!) talked about how he and David used to go to CBGB's and watch The Ramones (who they would later do their first Europe Tour with), Patty Smith, and Television. I've always thought that Television might have been a big influence of theirs!
Posted 1 year ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
 siqbal wrote:

Gosh, seems I'm not the only who thought this was Lloyd Cole! 

Apparently there's a connection (and some bad blood) there:

https://trouserpress.com/forum...



i was sad to hear the bad blood, as i love both acts. lloyd cole was one of my very favorites. such a talent. and i got to see television on their last tour around here (pittsburgh) and they were still great. it was before the death of verlaine, anyway.
Posted 1 year ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
 siqbal wrote:

Gosh, seems I'm not the only who thought this was Lloyd Cole! 

Apparently there's a connection (and some bad blood) there:

https://trouserpress.com/forum...



Interesting read...their vocal style is definitely hard to differentiate. And still very much enjoy both bands, and obviously very different musically.
Posted 1 year ago by aspicer    [ Reply ]
Gosh, seems I'm not the only who thought this was Lloyd Cole! 

Apparently there's a connection (and some bad blood) there:

https://trouserpress.com/forum...
Posted 1 year ago by siqbal    [ Reply ]
Posted 1 year ago by tm    [ Reply ]
man this sounds like Future Islands to me and that's okay
Posted 1 year ago by neotrogg    [ Reply ]
got to see them live about 4 yrs ago. so great.

(RIP to 3rd dude from left on cover, forget his name)
Posted 1 year ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
 adavey wrote:

Lloyd Cole, anyone?



i thought so too, for a second. miss him.
Posted 1 year ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
Rest in Peace Tom Verlaine! I saw Television live in 2006 on Hurricane Festival in Germany. It was a great gig. It´s on my mind forever!
Posted 1 year ago by philonair    [ Reply ]
I had always thought that was Lou Reed song. I’m a big dummy!
Posted 2 years ago by Ohio_Dog    [ Reply ]
Sounds like Lloyd Cole to me. Like it.
Posted 2 years ago by cambuddyf    [ Reply ]
 m3andros wrote:

The lead singer for Television sounds eerily similar to Lou Reed. Agree?


Not really, other than the talking/phrasing style.  Lou Reed had a deeper voice.  Tom Verlaine was certainly influenced by Reed though.
Posted 2 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
I've always dug how playful these guys are at every turn. The tasty guitar doing those satisfying runs and twisty riffs, those clever lyrics sung in quirky Ocasek/ Orr-style, those cathartic tempo shifts, and that bright, shimmering production -- it all astounds me every single time!
Posted 2 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
Hadn’t heard this one before. One that I do enjoy, but haven’t heard on RP is “Television Saved my Life”.
Posted 2 years ago by Tjerome    [ Reply ]
 m3andros wrote:

The lead singer for Television sounds eerily similar to Lou Reed. Agree?




Sacrilege.
Posted 2 years ago by mrctrm    [ Reply ]
Love this typically mesmerizing effort by one of the original NYC CBGB pioneer bands... They influenced so many! This one makes me want to hear some Luna...
Posted 2 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
The lead singer for Television sounds eerily similar to Lou Reed. Agree?
Posted 2 years ago by m3andros    [ Reply ]
Never heard of them. My bad!
Posted 2 years ago by BlackBetty    [ Reply ]
One of the best bands of the era.
Posted 2 years ago by GalileoCoffeeCo    [ Reply ]
 powerhuge wrote:


Exactly what I was thinking - thought it might be LC at first



mee too!
Posted 2 years ago by Dinges,_the_Dude    [ Reply ]
Lots of comments pointing out that Television had been around for years before LC & the Commotions - true, but having just sampled the earlier Television albums I didn't hear anything that reminded me of this or LC & t Cs sound...
Posted 3 years ago by rtrt    [ Reply ]
I remember buying Marquee Moon when it cam out in '77 (I think). An amazing sound for the time.
Posted 3 years ago by reallylost    [ Reply ]
 jbuhl wrote:
More Television in the rotation please.
 TV on the Radio

Posted 3 years ago by sunnyS    [ Reply ]
 adavey wrote:
Lloyd Cole, anyone?, this is a more recent album, but sane
Television started in the 1970's. This is a more recent song, but same style as their first album. Lloyd Cole would have been inspired by it, not the other way round. Just the way he sings perhaps? 
Posted 3 years ago by cmar    [ Reply ]
 adavey wrote:
Lloyd Cole, anyone?
 

Yes, instantly!! 
Posted 4 years ago by PinkSo    [ Reply ]
 jbuhl wrote:
More Television in the rotation please.
 

No Brainer!
Posted 4 years ago by ace-marc    [ Reply ]
More Television in the rotation please.
Posted 4 years ago by jbuhl    [ Reply ]
Love it!  Hadn't heard this song.  Verlaine was the best of the punk/nw guitarists.  Really wonderful.  Thanks for playing this Bill & Rebecca!
Posted 5 years ago by robbiethet    [ Reply ]
Wow - been 6 years since my last comment about this song.

Still love Television, love this album and love this song.

Would also love to hear more Television on RP.
Posted 5 years ago by Propayne    [ Reply ]
6.9 WTF, shame on you, at least 8 this!
Posted 5 years ago by capooti    [ Reply ]
The Cars with special guest Lou Reed.
Posted 5 years ago by danoodles    [ Reply ]
 adavey wrote:
Lloyd Cole, anyone?
 

Exactly what I was thinking - thought it might be LC at first
Posted 5 years ago by powerhuge    [ Reply ]
 adavey wrote:
Lloyd Cole, anyone?
 
I thought the same thing
Posted 5 years ago by asilbuch    [ Reply ]
Killer keyway'd from Under the Pressure! <3
Posted 5 years ago by dpaws    [ Reply ]
Never heard of this band before.  Sounds good.  Thanks again RP.
Posted 5 years ago by Relayer    [ Reply ]
Marquee Moon
Posted 5 years ago by MrMelons    [ Reply ]
 Veniceholly wrote:
Lloyd Cole, right?
 
 
These guys were around long before Lloyd Cole.
Posted 5 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
Lloyd Cole, anyone?
Posted 6 years ago by adavey    [ Reply ]
This is new to me.....an I am so very impressed.  Thank you RP
Posted 6 years ago by ai63    [ Reply ]
Sounds like Matt from The National. Can't stand his voice either.
Posted 6 years ago by kevrey    [ Reply ]
 horseplayer wrote:
The inscrutable Bill plays this but nothing else from Television, go figure.  OK yes, Marquee Moon is on the playlist, but still, there's a whole lot more from these guys that seems like it would fit on Radio Paradise.  No offense Bill, still love ya, but geez!  


 
Agree.  Elevation, Foxhole, Glory, Call Mr Lee .  All worthy of RP play. 

I am almost certain the 2 people who listen from Mongolia would enjoy more Television.


Posted 6 years ago by jbuhl    [ Reply ]
The inscrutable Bill plays this but nothing else from Television, go figure.  OK yes, Marquee Moon is on the playlist, but still, there's a whole lot more from these guys that seems like it would fit on Radio Paradise.  No offense Bill, still love ya, but geez!  

Posted 6 years ago by horseplayer    [ Reply ]
 pcc wrote:
Reminds me of Future Islands..

 
The members of Future Islands were around 12 years old when this album came out and were several years away from being born when Television's first album was released.
Posted 6 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
Richard Loyd is the guy doing the work on this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDI0HN9HH0


Check out Verlaines style on the Jazzmaster back in the day. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtZYdVNflsA
Posted 6 years ago by jbuhl    [ Reply ]
Is this the vocalist for The Church"? "...like a real...rep...tile"
Posted 6 years ago by DeemerDave    [ Reply ]
 Yup. Sounds like Commotion's "Perfect Skin". 
tembaco wrote:

Me too. 

 


Posted 6 years ago by Bultaco    [ Reply ]
 Floyd62 wrote:
Wow, I would have bet that this was Lloyd Cole. 
 
Me too. 
Posted 6 years ago by tembaco    [ Reply ]
Wow, I would have bet that this was Lloyd Cole. 
Posted 7 years ago by Floyd62    [ Reply ]
YAY! I haven't heard this one in so long!!!!
Posted 7 years ago by FatPants    [ Reply ]
 {#Yes}crockydile wrote:
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...
 

Posted 7 years ago by 1wolfy    [ Reply ]
 idiot_wind wrote:
The guy has something stuck in his throat. He's just gotta hack it up and stop the recording! 

 
Verlaine has always sounded strangled with his singing. 
Posted 7 years ago by jbuhl    [ Reply ]
 idiot_wind wrote:
The guy has something stuck in his throat. He's just gotta hack it up and stop the recording! 

 
Go back to listening to Justin Bieber
Posted 7 years ago by SmackDaddy    [ Reply ]
The guy has something stuck in his throat. He's just gotta hack it up and stop the recording! 
Posted 7 years ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
Exactly.
 
Ptijoc wrote:
Great to hear, Tom Verlaine and Télevision. This song is not my favorite, but i'm so glad to hear TV. More, more!

 


Posted 8 years ago by Pjesnik    [ Reply ]
Please, pay this guy a voice!
Posted 8 years ago by CoYoT51    [ Reply ]
 pcc wrote:
Reminds me of Future Islands..

 

Yes, very similar to that FI song we hear occasionally on RP.
Posted 8 years ago by Hannio    [ Reply ]
Don't bogart that joint my friend.  
Posted 8 years ago by CaptainConnector    [ Reply ]
Still relevant, for too long overlooked, more, much more please.
Posted 8 years ago by ianpreston    [ Reply ]
Great to hear, Tom Verlaine and Télevision. This song is not my favorite, but i'm so glad to hear TV. More, more!
Posted 8 years ago by Ptijoc    [ Reply ]
 coloradojohn wrote:
Visionary... Brilliant... Understated Understanding of All and Everything set to a grooving beat rife with urgent angstful urbanified lyrics.

 
yeah yeah yeah!  : )
Posted 8 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
Great band.  More please.
Posted 8 years ago by jbuhl    [ Reply ]
 Bobert_ParkCity wrote:
I see no evil in playing this...

 
...and I spoke no evil while it played.
Posted 8 years ago by LowPhreak    [ Reply ]
Reminds me of Future Islands..
Posted 9 years ago by pcc    [ Reply ]
Love this band, always happy to hear anything they have done.
Posted 9 years ago by GTT    [ Reply ]
Visionary! Brilliant! Understated Understanding of All & Everything set to a grooving beat rife with urgent, angsty, and urbane lyrics...
Posted 9 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
 Veniceholly wrote:
Lloyd Cole, right?
 

 
LOL. Close, but nobody can approach Robert Quine's NYC guitar.
Posted 9 years ago by wgsu_1978    [ Reply ]
I hear Lou Reed more than anyone else. Quite likeable.
Posted 9 years ago by dragon1952    [ Reply ]
 softjeans wrote:

I was just thinking these guys listened to a lot of Bowie.

 
And Bowie then listened to a lot of Television and Verlaine afterward.
Posted 9 years ago by lemmoth    [ Reply ]
 crockydile wrote:
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...before he hung out with good musicians.
 
I won't call you clueless - I'll just ask that you listen to more Television or at the very least read about how ridiculously amazing Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd are as musicians.
Posted 9 years ago by lemmoth    [ Reply ]
Lloyd Cole, right?
 
Posted 9 years ago by Veniceholly    [ Reply ]
More of this great band please.

Just saw them a few month's back.

What amzaing players. 
Posted 9 years ago by lemmoth    [ Reply ]
I was so grateful when this album came out ... was a little disappointed overall at the time ... but this song sounds great to me now.  Less is truly more ... especially when the less is a few choice notes from these guys.
Posted 10 years ago by GTT    [ Reply ]
Sounds so fresh. Hard to believe this is now over 20 years old..
Posted 10 years ago by leafmold    [ Reply ]
How 'bout a few more cuts from "Marquee Moon" added to the mix here?
Posted 10 years ago by treatment_bound    [ Reply ]
that song is super man!  Thank you intellegent folks for the little history bits, wondering did the Voidoids ever make other RP music besides Blank Gen?
Posted 11 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
 toterola wrote:
It ain't "Marquee Moon", but it'll do... {#Yes}

 


i also hear cole a bit. love him, too.
Posted 11 years ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
 toterola wrote:
It ain't "Marquee Moon", but it'll do... {#Yes}
 

Naw...GIMME "FRICTION"!
Posted 11 years ago by treatment_bound    [ Reply ]
 Stingray wrote:
For a second I really thought it was LLOYD COLE!

PS
Is Lloyd Cole an issue here at all...?


 
Agreed, close your eyes, open your ears & Lloyd Cole comes instantly to mind.  Never a bad thing...
Posted 11 years ago by Foot    [ Reply ]
It ain't "Marquee Moon", but it'll do... {#Yes}
Posted 11 years ago by toterola    [ Reply ]
Used to jam to this in Tokyo wishing for supplements when there were none to be had...
Well now I'm where there's no place higher, and yup, it's come to life in ways expected that never get old...
God, what a great thing in my life Radio Paradise is!  {#Drummer}{#Propeller}{#Dancingbanana_2}  
Posted 11 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
Always great to hear...
Posted 11 years ago by Propayne    [ Reply ]
{#Dancingbanana}woo hoo!  be still my tapping toes ...
Posted 12 years ago by WayUpNorth    [ Reply ]
 aspicer wrote:
Love this tune - never heard it before RP!  I will say that Marquee Moon is a MUST own album if you even remotely like this.  It was a landmark and influential album for many 80's bands.
 
...and quite a few '70s bands as well.
Posted 12 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
I see no evil in playing this...
Posted 12 years ago by Bobert_ParkCity    [ Reply ]
What great guitar work!  
Posted 12 years ago by dingusbother    [ Reply ]
Love this tune - never heard it before RP!  I will say that Marquee Moon is a MUST own album if you even remotely like this.  It was a landmark and influential album for many 80's bands.
Posted 12 years ago by aspicer    [ Reply ]
Can anybody help?  Did they do a song circa 1980 called When (Two?) Worlds Collide???  Does anybody know?? 
Posted 12 years ago by shellbella    [ Reply ]
These guys are so good...Marquee Moon and THIS could be all I'd need for awhile if I had some good supplements...
Posted 13 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
 crockydile wrote:
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...before he hung out with good musicians.

 
Television was around when Ric Ocasek was still playing in cover bands.
Posted 13 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
I think they sound kinda like Yo La Tengo.  Pretty good, tho.
Posted 13 years ago by shutter    [ Reply ]
Wrong Lloyd.

Richard Lloyd and Tom Verlaine - one of the greatest guitar duos of all time.

Posted 13 years ago by Propayne    [ Reply ]
For a second I really thought it was LLOYD COLE!

PS
Is Lloyd Cole an issue here at all...?


Posted 14 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
 EssexTex wrote:
Poor Mr Hell, if he read these comments he'd feel quite dejected....I refer to the amount of other people who are reminded of someone else before him...err

 
I thought it was Tom Verlaine singing.

Posted 14 years ago by Giselle62    [ Reply ]
Never heard this before, I like it!{#Bananajam}
Posted 14 years ago by sirdroseph    [ Reply ]
 softjeans wrote:

I was just thinking these guys listened to a lot of Bowie.
 
I hear a little bit of Love and Rockets, myself.

Posted 14 years ago by tapatia1072    [ Reply ]
 babyjuice wrote:

 
I was just thinking these guys listened to a lot of Bowie.


Posted 14 years ago by softjeans    [ Reply ]
 crockydile wrote:
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...before he hung out with good musicians.
 
Richard Lloyd is an excellent guitarist.

Posted 14 years ago by Propayne    [ Reply ]
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Posted 14 years ago by vandal    [ Reply ]
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...before he hung out with good musicians.

Posted 14 years ago by crockydile    [ Reply ]
Poor Mr Hell, if he read these comments he'd feel quite dejected....I refer to the amount of other people who are reminded of someone else before him...err

Posted 14 years ago by EssexTex    [ Reply ]
Never heard this before...
But I'm very intrigued!
Gonna have to check out more from them.

Posted 15 years ago by flatpicker    [ Reply ]
 andrewimft wrote:
Who are these guys? And why do they sound like other people?

Well, these guys were a very influential early new wave band in the late 1970's/early 80's that never had much commercial success but had a cult following. Critics in NYC kept asking who'd get big first, the Talking Heads or these guys. These guys always made literary lyrics with interesting songs built on often elaborate quirky guitar riffs. Nice to hear them here— they should be a staple of alternative radio.

 
Agreed.  Actually, Television was playing around NYC by 1973 or '74 (originally with Richard Hell on bass).  Great stuff - brilliant musicians.  Their first album (ca.1977?) also pre-dates any Lloyd Cole recording by at least six or seven years.

Posted 15 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
Wouldn't mind hearing Lloyd Cole some more Bill, hint hint.
Posted 15 years ago by lattalo    [ Reply ]
 Bocephus wrote:
Yeah...anything off Marquee Moon would have been better, but this is OK.
 

Second that.  Time for an upload.

Posted 15 years ago by velvetglove    [ Reply ]
 bodhisattva1031 wrote:

second , third or maybe even fourth that . . . .
 
Deja vu - just thought - that's Lloyd Cole........
Posted 16 years ago by jools    [ Reply ]
 jools wrote:
This sounds like Lloyd Cole and the Commotions.....
 
second , third or maybe even fourth that . . . .
Posted 16 years ago by bodhisattva1031    [ Reply ]
Who are these guys? And why do they sound like other people?

Well, these guys were a very influential early new wave band in the late 1970's/early 80's that never had much commercial success but had a cult following. Critics in NYC kept asking who'd get big first, the Talking Heads or these guys. These guys always made literary lyrics with interesting songs built on often elaborate quirky guitar riffs. Nice to hear them here— they should be a staple of alternative radio.

Posted 16 years ago by andrewimft    [ Reply ]
K-BILLY wrote:
and Rick Ocasek
no son - Rick listened to them - saw them live at CBGBs before the Cars launched
Posted 16 years ago by lemmoth    [ Reply ]
So, Bill - how about a bit of LC&TC then by way of comparison?
Posted 16 years ago by jools    [ Reply ]
rickhoran wrote:
first thought it was lloyd cole.
Sorry - hadn't seen this!
Posted 16 years ago by jools    [ Reply ]