Grateful Dead — Help On The Way -> Franklin's Tower
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Paradise waits
On the crest of a wave her angels in flame
She has no pain
Like a child she is pure, she is not to blame
Poised for flight, wings spread bright
Spring from night into the sun
Don't stop to run
She can fly like a lie, she can't be outdone
Tell me the cost
I can pay, let me go, tell me love is not lost
Sell everything
Without love day to day, insanity's king
I will pay, day by day
Anyway, lock, bolt and key
Crippled but free
I was blind all the time I was learning to see
Help on the way
Well I know only this, I've got you today
Don't fly away
'Cause I love what I love and I want it that way
I will stay, one more day
Like I say, honey, it's you
Making it too
Without love in the dream it'll never come true
(Slipknot - instrumental)
In another time's forgotten space
Your eyes looked from your mother's face
Wildflower seed on the sand and stone
May the four winds blow you safely home
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
I'll tell you where the four winds dwell
In Franklin's tower there hangs a bell
It can ring, turn night to day
It can ring like fire when you lose your way
God save the child who rings that bell
It may have one good ring, baby, you can't tell
One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play
Some come to laugh their past away
Some come to make it just one more day
Whichever way your pleasure tends
If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind
In Franklin's tower the four winds sleep
Like four lean hounds the lighthouse keep
Wildflower seed in the sand and wind
May the four winds blow you home again
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
On the crest of a wave her angels in flame
She has no pain
Like a child she is pure, she is not to blame
Poised for flight, wings spread bright
Spring from night into the sun
Don't stop to run
She can fly like a lie, she can't be outdone
Tell me the cost
I can pay, let me go, tell me love is not lost
Sell everything
Without love day to day, insanity's king
I will pay, day by day
Anyway, lock, bolt and key
Crippled but free
I was blind all the time I was learning to see
Help on the way
Well I know only this, I've got you today
Don't fly away
'Cause I love what I love and I want it that way
I will stay, one more day
Like I say, honey, it's you
Making it too
Without love in the dream it'll never come true
(Slipknot - instrumental)
In another time's forgotten space
Your eyes looked from your mother's face
Wildflower seed on the sand and stone
May the four winds blow you safely home
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
I'll tell you where the four winds dwell
In Franklin's tower there hangs a bell
It can ring, turn night to day
It can ring like fire when you lose your way
God save the child who rings that bell
It may have one good ring, baby, you can't tell
One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play
Some come to laugh their past away
Some come to make it just one more day
Whichever way your pleasure tends
If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind
In Franklin's tower the four winds sleep
Like four lean hounds the lighthouse keep
Wildflower seed in the sand and wind
May the four winds blow you home again
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
Roll away the dew
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One of the few bands I favor, although best on vinyl with the analog character.
This stuff is mystical!
heavenly, just heavenly.
shockwavewriter wrote:
And: One Hundred Years of Solitude completely blew my mind. Became one of my favorite books.
Try The Illuminatus! Trilogy. Your brain will melt and/or you will hate it. Just know you're gently being made fun of as you read it. It's brilliant.
And: One Hundred Years of Solitude completely blew my mind. Became one of my favorite books.
Try The Illuminatus! Trilogy. Your brain will melt and/or you will hate it. Just know you're gently being made fun of as you read it. It's brilliant.
easmann wrote:
So, yeah, the Grateful Dead are one of a number of polarizing artists on Radio Paradise. Though I've not been much of a fan I enjoy most of the selections played here. I believe their particular sound, including their casual relationship with standard pitch and timing, is deliberate and cultivated, and perhaps, yes, aided by certain, em, relaxants and disinhibitors.
Enjoy 'em if you can and if you can't, well, stay calm and Play Something Different! I'm sure that's what they'd want.
This is one of the most level-headed and open-minded responses to someone not liking music someone else likes that I've ever seen on RP. I'm on the Stay-Calm-and-PSD Train, but appreciate that GD fans have their reasons for loving the band.
Now can you please teach some of this calm level-headedness to Neil Young and Beatles fans?
So, yeah, the Grateful Dead are one of a number of polarizing artists on Radio Paradise. Though I've not been much of a fan I enjoy most of the selections played here. I believe their particular sound, including their casual relationship with standard pitch and timing, is deliberate and cultivated, and perhaps, yes, aided by certain, em, relaxants and disinhibitors.
Enjoy 'em if you can and if you can't, well, stay calm and Play Something Different! I'm sure that's what they'd want.
This is one of the most level-headed and open-minded responses to someone not liking music someone else likes that I've ever seen on RP. I'm on the Stay-Calm-and-PSD Train, but appreciate that GD fans have their reasons for loving the band.
Now can you please teach some of this calm level-headedness to Neil Young and Beatles fans?
What are we listening to? A tuning session? :-) PSD button engaged.
Alright I suppose if you weren't listening to it.
I am not a Dead fan at all, but this is pretty good. I am not getting the low rating?
I don't get these either.
Fire on the mountain is great, and maybe another track or 2. Prob good stoned in the open air which is probably what they were meant for.
Fire on the mountain is great, and maybe another track or 2. Prob good stoned in the open air which is probably what they were meant for.
Ahhhh just when I needed it.
Help On The Way -> 5
Franklin's Tower -> 8
Collectively a 7 for me
Franklin's Tower -> 8
Collectively a 7 for me
Dead & company, July 5&6th, Folsom field..Boulder, CO!
I seldom weigh in negative about what I feel others may love, but imho this is godawful.
buddy wrote:
My sweetie went to the opening dates of the tour last Friday and Saturday nights at Shoreline in Mountain View (California). He said they were great. Many friends who were there also agree. I love the Dead (met said sweetie at a show at the Fillmore when Phil Lesh was a guest singer) but I find myself uninterested in their current lineup.
Dead & Company, July 5-6, 2019k - Folsom Field, University of Colorado, Boulder. Can't wait!
My sweetie went to the opening dates of the tour last Friday and Saturday nights at Shoreline in Mountain View (California). He said they were great. Many friends who were there also agree. I love the Dead (met said sweetie at a show at the Fillmore when Phil Lesh was a guest singer) but I find myself uninterested in their current lineup.
Spiderwoman wrote:
THIS is how you bring something meaningful to the table even if you don't like the song in question. No h8 here, just honesty, humor, and a little self deprecation.
I grew up in Eugene. Was never interested in seeing the Dead when they came through, turned down tickets. I love music, love a ginormous variety, but have never ever EVER connected with these guys. What am I missing?
And if you have the answer to that, can you also please weigh in on why I don't understand One Hundred Years of Solitude. Tried reading it twice. Totally lost on me.
Awesome randomness, huh. It's truly what was in my brain just now. See what the Dead does to my brain!
And if you have the answer to that, can you also please weigh in on why I don't understand One Hundred Years of Solitude. Tried reading it twice. Totally lost on me.
Awesome randomness, huh. It's truly what was in my brain just now. See what the Dead does to my brain!
THIS is how you bring something meaningful to the table even if you don't like the song in question. No h8 here, just honesty, humor, and a little self deprecation.
Like most Dead songs, I kind of like this for about three minutes.
Dead & Company, July 5-6, 2019k - Folsom Field, University of Colorado, Boulder. Can't wait!
Spiderwoman wrote:
I have been into the Dead since the 70's - almost 50 years now. I listened to countless hours of their music. And: One Hundred Years of Solitude completely blew my mind. Became one of my favorite books.
All that said: there are styles of music, ways of thinking and writing, and art that I do not get. At all. Doesn't speak to me. Does that make it crap? It just makes us different creatures with different neurological, aural, and visual makeups. I say "celebrate the differences!" It would be awful if we all liked the same things all the time.
I grew up in Eugene. Was never interested in seeing the Dead when they came through, turned down tickets. I love music, love a ginormous variety, but have never ever EVER connected with these guys. What am I missing?
And if you have the answer to that, can you also please weigh in on why I don't understand One Hundred Years of Solitude. Tried reading it twice. Totally lost on me.
Awesome randomness, huh. It's truly what was in my brain just now. See what the Dead does to my brain!
And if you have the answer to that, can you also please weigh in on why I don't understand One Hundred Years of Solitude. Tried reading it twice. Totally lost on me.
Awesome randomness, huh. It's truly what was in my brain just now. See what the Dead does to my brain!
I have been into the Dead since the 70's - almost 50 years now. I listened to countless hours of their music. And: One Hundred Years of Solitude completely blew my mind. Became one of my favorite books.
All that said: there are styles of music, ways of thinking and writing, and art that I do not get. At all. Doesn't speak to me. Does that make it crap? It just makes us different creatures with different neurological, aural, and visual makeups. I say "celebrate the differences!" It would be awful if we all liked the same things all the time.
idiot_wind wrote:
Hey Zenhead, have you ever tried a double salt, dutch licorice? It's potent stuff!
It might change your opinion of the Dead.
I love the double salted stuff! I love Australian style! I just love Licorice!!
Plus I love the GD!
Hey Zenhead, have you ever tried a double salt, dutch licorice? It's potent stuff!
It might change your opinion of the Dead.
I love the double salted stuff! I love Australian style! I just love Licorice!!
Plus I love the GD!
zenhead wrote:
I love licorice, but really don't care for the Dead.
Hey Zenhead, have you ever tried a double salt, dutch licorice? It's potent stuff!
It might change your opinion of the Dead.
I love licorice, but really don't care for the Dead.
Hey Zenhead, have you ever tried a double salt, dutch licorice? It's potent stuff!
It might change your opinion of the Dead.
timmywilson wrote:
I love licorice, but really don't care for the Dead.
“We're like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.”
― Jerry Garcia
― Jerry Garcia
I love licorice, but really don't care for the Dead.
One of my favourite Dead albums. An easy 9 for this.
“We're like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.”
― Jerry Garcia
― Jerry Garcia
I fancy myself a big Grateful Dead fan, but their studio albums sound so neutered to my ears. I can think of no other band I love more or whose studio albums I care less about. Quintessential American band. Numero Uno for me. Easy 10, even with the high sheen of the studio. Thanks RP.
Noooooooooooodling.
capandjudy wrote:
Phil Lesh is the musician in that band whatever you may think of the Grateful Dead in general.
Yeah! Jerry's got nothing for that guitar.
...and he wrote so few songs compared to Phil.
Redpoint wrote:
I like. Not a big Dead fan though the odd piece is quite pleasant.
OK. This is a great example of my previous comment on how the Greatful Dead can produce excruciating,self indulgent noodling one minute and shimmering pop the next.
3 for the first painful half. 8 for the second half. Go figure.
3 for the first painful half. 8 for the second half. Go figure.
I like. Not a big Dead fan though the odd piece is quite pleasant.
My first job in IT was way back in 1975 (yes when dinosaurs roamed the earth) and I used to sit opposite a guy called Tony who used to talk about 'The 'Dead' in glowing terms. The rest of us did not know who The Dead were and never took the trouble to find out.
Now I know more about them and Tony if you are out there - hi from Stephen your old computer programmer workmate back in the day.
Now I know more about them and Tony if you are out there - hi from Stephen your old computer programmer workmate back in the day.
kingart wrote:
The fact you care so much about time and how long a song is highlights the divide between east coast and west coast mentality. Stick to the Ramones.
I hit psd twice. The substitute songs play and end. This ditty comes back, still grinding away. It's interminable.
The fact you care so much about time and how long a song is highlights the divide between east coast and west coast mentality. Stick to the Ramones.
Phil Lesh is the musician in that band whatever you may think of the Grateful Dead in general.
This is just too repetitive. It never seems to end.
It's actually 2 songs strung together. The dead are genius in my mind. I feel bad for those that can't get into it, but I guess to each his own.
Thanks for playing it Bill!
Thanks for playing it Bill!
Remember when Album Covers mattered... a lot... This one brings back memories
I hit psd twice. The substitute songs play and end. This ditty comes back, still grinding away. It's interminable.
psd - twice
Challenging the record on how many times a refrain can be repeated before the CD breaks down in boredom.
PSD doesn't work on this. Have the hippies got into the works?
Love it! Thanks for playing it!
God, is it still playing?
Album Cover - 9
Roll away...THE WHAT?
black321 wrote:
That puts it in perspective.
It's rock and roll...99% of the stuff played on this station doesn't pass the acid test (ha!). Either you like or you don't, either it moves you or it doesn't... but rock and roll isn't meant to be put under a microscope because its too ugly.
p.s., it amazes me how someone can complain about this song being out of tune...and then rate highly a band like the Black Keys (nothing against them).
p.s., it amazes me how someone can complain about this song being out of tune...and then rate highly a band like the Black Keys (nothing against them).
That puts it in perspective.
Never got 'em. Never will.
in college back in the 70's someone in my dorm painted a very exacting replica of the album cover on the wall, surely painted over.... but still there in memory....
good segue. bad music. 😉
OK. This is a great example of my previous comment on how the Greatful Dead can produce excruciating,self indulgent noodling one minute and shimmering pop the next.
3 for the first painful half. 8 for the second half. Go figure.
3 for the first painful half. 8 for the second half. Go figure.
Not a fan of the Dead but that is one fine album cover!
Jerry! Jer-eeeeee! Still love you baby!
The best!!!!
A 9 for me. But, can totally accept that this doesn't resonate everywhere. There is a time & place factor to this music.
A bit like classic jazz, it requires leaning into the dissonance and then revelling in the consonance. Tension and release.
A+ to Bill for not decoupling this pair.
A bit like classic jazz, it requires leaning into the dissonance and then revelling in the consonance. Tension and release.
A+ to Bill for not decoupling this pair.
You are a bit of an anomaly Spiderwoman - a Eugenian and not getting the Dead or Marquez.
Thanks for playing Bill!!
easmann wrote:
So, yeah, the Grateful Dead are one of a number of polarizing artists on Radio Paradise. Though I've not been much of a fan I enjoy most of the selections played here. I believe their particular sound, including their casual relationship with standard pitch and timing, is deliberate and cultivated, and perhaps, yes, aided by certain, em, relaxants and disinhibitors.
Enjoy 'em if you can and if you can't, well, stay calm and Play Something Different! I'm sure that's what they'dSo well worded. For myself 1969 Live/Dead is my favorite.
So, yeah, the Grateful Dead are one of a number of polarizing artists on Radio Paradise. Though I've not been much of a fan I enjoy most of the selections played here. I believe their particular sound, including their casual relationship with standard pitch and timing, is deliberate and cultivated, and perhaps, yes, aided by certain, em, relaxants and disinhibitors.
Enjoy 'em if you can and if you can't, well, stay calm and Play Something Different! I'm sure that's what they'd
I grew up in Eugene. Was never interested in seeing the Dead when they came through, turned down tickets. I love music, love a ginormous variety, but have never ever EVER connected with these guys. What am I missing?
And if you have the answer to that, can you also please weigh in on why I don't understand One Hundred Years of Solitude. Tried reading it twice. Totally lost on me.
Awesome randomness, huh. It's truly what was in my brain just now. See what the Dead does to my brain!
And if you have the answer to that, can you also please weigh in on why I don't understand One Hundred Years of Solitude. Tried reading it twice. Totally lost on me.
Awesome randomness, huh. It's truly what was in my brain just now. See what the Dead does to my brain!
I agree with Bill, one of my favorites. I've never seen the "Dead" and hope to keep it that way for another 10 - 15 at least. I somewhat agree with the "newbees" because the Dead could never crossover to records what their fans devotion was in concert. The Dead were a happening and not the top 10 - 40-100 or 500. They created a fan base of live concert goers unlike any other band to date. When Rock went one way the Dead went another. Their music was influenced by many genres and I followed them to all. 8.7
Despite the gripers, I've been a fan of the Garcia/Hunter songs and I was really hoping they play what I feel is the Dead trifecta of Help/Slip/Franklins. My old band played it this way and I would've been sad if Bill didn't follow. For the haters... sorry. Just hit the Olde second choice play button and hope for the best. 
Such a fine jam.
easmann wrote:
...including their casual relationship with standard pitch and timing...
Hahah, well said. Gave me a chuckle.
...including their casual relationship with standard pitch and timing...
Hahah, well said. Gave me a chuckle.
Long may you run.
In my opinion, the album version of Dead songs never match up to the live versions. So, if all you have to judge are the album versions of Dead songs, then I would totally be with you that there are better things to listen to.
However, if you were to listen to the version of these songs on the Dead Set album (a live version from 1980), I would bet your mind would be changed. These live versions have a lot more emotion and lot more improvisation, something that the Dead were known for.
And, if you had seen them live, of course that helps too. If you weren't so lucky, then I feel bad for you but I can understand why you missed understanding why the Grateful Dead were so amazing.
However, if you were to listen to the version of these songs on the Dead Set album (a live version from 1980), I would bet your mind would be changed. These live versions have a lot more emotion and lot more improvisation, something that the Dead were known for.
And, if you had seen them live, of course that helps too. If you weren't so lucky, then I feel bad for you but I can understand why you missed understanding why the Grateful Dead were so amazing.
Dead albums haven't always been kind to the Dead, Garcia once said that they never got into the proper sequence to record.
For example they would write, record and then hit the road and on the road they would perfect the songs.
Garcia said it would be better to write, perform and then record after they worked out the songs real good
For example they would write, record and then hit the road and on the road they would perfect the songs.
Garcia said it would be better to write, perform and then record after they worked out the songs real good
Gets boooring after a while ...
Stinker...
4merdj wrote:
So, yeah, the Grateful Dead are one of a number of polarizing artists on Radio Paradise. Though I've not been much of a fan I enjoy most of the selections played here. I believe their particular sound, including their casual relationship with standard pitch and timing, is deliberate and cultivated, and perhaps, yes, aided by certain, em, relaxants and disinhibitors.
Enjoy 'em if you can and if you can't, well, stay calm and Play Something Different! I'm sure that's what they'd want.
Yikeeeessss!! Stop!!! 
So, yeah, the Grateful Dead are one of a number of polarizing artists on Radio Paradise. Though I've not been much of a fan I enjoy most of the selections played here. I believe their particular sound, including their casual relationship with standard pitch and timing, is deliberate and cultivated, and perhaps, yes, aided by certain, em, relaxants and disinhibitors.
Enjoy 'em if you can and if you can't, well, stay calm and Play Something Different! I'm sure that's what they'd want.
I have a generally high regard for the comments on RP from the listeners from all around the world. But it always amuses me when I see low ratings from bands that I love and have seen perform multiple times. The Grateful Dead are high up on that list, along with some others like Bruce Springsteen and Patti Smith. I refuse to believe that any of the negative comments are coming from listeners who have actually seen these bands live and paid any attention to their music. My feeling is that you will enjoy the recorded music a great deal more once you have seen the band live. And in the case of The Dead, both Dave DJing in Paradise, California, and me living in the San Francisco Bay Area, it was always easier to see the Dead in person. Although they have a huge fan base all around the U.S. and the world, and by far the most committed fans, for the 30 years Jerry was alive, with the band caravaning around the globe to catch them wherever they played.
Yikeeeessss!! Stop!!!
arnimf wrote:
Critique analyzed. The numbers in sentences two and three should be spelled out.
Guitarsolo analyzed: 26% on key. 42% off key. Rest undecided.
Critique analyzed. The numbers in sentences two and three should be spelled out.
My god, will this song ever end? Don't get me wrong, I'm a prog rock fan so I have no quarrel with long songs, but this? This the same thing repeated over and over for like, 15 minutes? No thanks.
arnimf wrote:
Your looking at it the wrong way, it's art not a music exam!
Guitarsolo analyzed: 26% on key. 42% off key. Rest undecided.
Your looking at it the wrong way, it's art not a music exam!
arnimf wrote:
You're the guy who explains jokes and magic tricks, aren't you.
Guitarsolo analyzed: 26% on key. 42% off key. Rest undecided.
You're the guy who explains jokes and magic tricks, aren't you.
I always laugh at the extremity of the comments when a Dead song gets played. Either you "get it" or you don't.
Fortunately for me, I get it.
Fortunately for me, I get it.
It's rock and roll...99% of the stuff played on this station doesn't pass the acid test (ha!). Either you like or you don't, either it moves you or it doesn't... but rock and roll isn't meant to be put under a microscope because its too ugly.
p.s., it amazes me how someone can complain about this song being out of tune...and then rate highly a band like the Black Keys (nothing against them).
p.s., it amazes me how someone can complain about this song being out of tune...and then rate highly a band like the Black Keys (nothing against them).
Such good stuff, nice pairing from the boys, love it live and from the studio. Really miss those days. Seems like a lifetime ago.
Guitarsolo analyzed: 26% on key. 42% off key. Rest undecided.
k-man wrote:
That was me, and I stand by my comment. In fact, I just noticed it again while listening to the song, before realizing it was the same song that had bothered me before.
I'll add another criticism instead: Garcia's guitar tone is thin, dry, and without variation. It gets pretty boring listening to that same sound over a long piece like this.
The person who says thats Garcia is obviously noodling on this song never really listened to it.
That was me, and I stand by my comment. In fact, I just noticed it again while listening to the song, before realizing it was the same song that had bothered me before.
I'll add another criticism instead: Garcia's guitar tone is thin, dry, and without variation. It gets pretty boring listening to that same sound over a long piece like this.
Bar few, one of the most repetitive songs ever recorded. Color me ungrateful. Ugh.
Thank you for playing this!! How you can't get into this groove is beyond me.
Hah! I knew The Master would get around to pairing GD with Blitzen Trapper. 
kingart wrote:
And I've already said how much I love these three tunes and how they're strung together.
I love the Dead as much now as much as I ever did, and man do I miss their shows. The trouble with the Dead is, though, they are a full-on active listening band--background music they are not. Usually, the only time I can listen to them now is when I'm driving alone in my car, where I can actively listen without distraction. And there the music can take me...
The yokels who continuously bash the Dead's music have never understood the sound our caught what the band is really all about. The person who says thats Garcia is obviously noodling on this song never really listened to it. And those who say it's just a bunch of stoners who listen to the music obviously never went to a show to see the cross-sectoin of folks who would attend--the diversity of the crowd always amazed me.
I've kvetched about this piece already.
And I've already said how much I love these three tunes and how they're strung together.
I love the Dead as much now as much as I ever did, and man do I miss their shows. The trouble with the Dead is, though, they are a full-on active listening band--background music they are not. Usually, the only time I can listen to them now is when I'm driving alone in my car, where I can actively listen without distraction. And there the music can take me...
The yokels who continuously bash the Dead's music have never understood the sound our caught what the band is really all about. The person who says thats Garcia is obviously noodling on this song never really listened to it. And those who say it's just a bunch of stoners who listen to the music obviously never went to a show to see the cross-sectoin of folks who would attend--the diversity of the crowd always amazed me.
It may have one good ring, baby, you can't tell
One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play
Some come to laugh their past away
Some come to make it just one more day
Whichever way your pleasure tends
If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind
Roll away the dew...
I'm rollin' with it. Groovin' with Jerry and the crew.
One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play
Some come to laugh their past away
Some come to make it just one more day
Whichever way your pleasure tends
If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind
Roll away the dew...
I'm rollin' with it. Groovin' with Jerry and the crew.
I've kvetched about this piece already. Totally one of the least inspiring RP plays. This is PAIN-FUL. One for the trash heap of musical history. Disharmonious unmelodic NOIZ. They should have given up on the Zappa Mothers clone.
Not the biggest Dead fan, but this is pretty cool.
Beautiful cover art.
oh geez this just makes me dislike the Dead more and more.
Just painful.
Just painful.
johkir wrote:
Yeah it does feel a bit lost now and then... which can happen to anyone, but makes me wonder why they didn't do a retake. Maybe they liked it as is. Or were just tired of working on it. Or it was a producer decision. Who knows? At this point who cares? Why did I bother commenting?
There's a great blues riff in here somewhere. Where did I put that riff?
Yeah it does feel a bit lost now and then... which can happen to anyone, but makes me wonder why they didn't do a retake. Maybe they liked it as is. Or were just tired of working on it. Or it was a producer decision. Who knows? At this point who cares? Why did I bother commenting?
bitbanger wrote:
Absolutely -- LSD. Take seven drops under the tounge about an hour before showtime, & see how conservative they seem.
Dead always seemed pretty conservative to me. I must be missing something.
Absolutely -- LSD. Take seven drops under the tounge about an hour before showtime, & see how conservative they seem.
Tombanjo wrote:
Wow...I feel the exact opposite. Melody, rhythm, progression, nice hook...
Yes, at times, but he doesn't sustain it or try to build intensity. And sometimes he's clearly just noodling around trying to get back into the groove.
Wow...I feel the exact opposite. Melody, rhythm, progression, nice hook...
Yes, at times, but he doesn't sustain it or try to build intensity. And sometimes he's clearly just noodling around trying to get back into the groove.
There's a great blues riff in here somewhere. Where did I put that riff?
timmywilson wrote:
I do know that there are a lot of people that feel the Dead were very progressive. Sadly, all I hear is a lot of incompletely assimilated country and folk in their work. There was much more inventive stuff happening in rock music at the time, not to mention other musical genus that were way out there on the edge.
Dead always seemed pretty conservative to me. I must be missing something.
IMHO, of course.
Loved this when I first heard it. So unlike anything else from the mid 70's. Still quite unique in so many ways. Thanks, Bill.
I do know that there are a lot of people that feel the Dead were very progressive. Sadly, all I hear is a lot of incompletely assimilated country and folk in their work. There was much more inventive stuff happening in rock music at the time, not to mention other musical genus that were way out there on the edge.
Dead always seemed pretty conservative to me. I must be missing something.
IMHO, of course.
Shimmer wrote:
Wow...I feel the exact opposite. Melody, rhythm, progression, nice hook...
There's no doubt that Jerry Garcia was a talented guitar player with a distinctive sound, but this piece shows how unfocused and uninspired he could be as well.
Wow...I feel the exact opposite. Melody, rhythm, progression, nice hook...
I think I'd like this if it was remastered; sounds like it was recorded inside a fur hat.
black321 wrote:
gonna bump this because of the rehash of inane drug comments.
Honestly, why do the dead get banged around so much with the drug jokes? What rock band out of the 60s/70s (and for the 80s, 90s, 00s) didnt have a drug issue...and the same for its fan base? Clapton and all his bands, the Stones, Beatles, Who...or is it just a bias against psychedelics?
gonna bump this because of the rehash of inane drug comments.
Sounds good to me. Roll away the doo...
O-U-C-H. If this was all I could listen to, I might be grateful to be dead. Sort of a lull and a low at RP. What drugs could turn this into some musical nirvana?
There's no doubt that Jerry Garcia was a talented guitar player with a distinctive sound, but this piece shows how unfocused and uninspired he could be as well.
pinem wrote:
Indeed.
this blows
Indeed.
this blows
my fav dead album
Note to my main bloke fredriley: I hear you, bro. Back then, I was creating enough smoke to close down Heathrow and just didn't catch the Dead vibe. If you had to be there to understand, well, that doesn't wash, because — like you — I was there.
Does this qualify me for a handicap parking space?
Does this qualify me for a handicap parking space?
I like the Dead well enough, but this song is going on too long.
I'd forgotten that this album existed... immediately took me back to my teens. Lovely!!!! This awesomeness that is Radio Paradise 
Loved this when I first heard it. So unlike anything else from the mid 70's. Still quite unique in so many ways. Thanks, Bill.
fredriley wrote:
I'm very sad to report, but I don't think this prescription would address your condition.
Try instead to get outside more and enjoy the sounds of nature.
Maybe I should have been strapped down, made to smoke stiff spliffs, then had the Dead played at me for ten hours straight.
I'm very sad to report, but I don't think this prescription would address your condition.
Try instead to get outside more and enjoy the sounds of nature.
I grew up on live versions and have to say that this is one of their studio tracks that pales in comparison. This one just seems to draaaaag relative to live versions
tkosh wrote:
so true!
so true!
BlueHeronDruid wrote:
Not necessarily
I'm guessing this is one of those "you had to be there" moments.
Not necessarily
jerrieberrie wrote:
Hi Fred,
I'm not taking offense as a deadhead but it is pretty easy to see why you don't get it. If you've hit mute, you just can't hear it.
The Dead are in most cases an acquired taste (that being neither good nor bad) but if you don't give it a chance or two or three, you probably won't ever appreciate any part of it. IMO there's a lot more to it than drugs or having to have been there. We all seek different things from music and it may be that you are looking for more or less than the Deads' introspection and musings offer. These are stories, exercises, essays- if you will. For some of us, their reflections "get" to the core of life and existance and our thoughts and experiences as human beings.
btw, I enjoy your comments on RP.
tkosh:
What a great description. I was only part way there for the Dead, but enjoy their music tremendously. To me it's like jazz—once you get the groove, it just gets in your blood, right to your heart. And that just doesn't seem to go away.
I'm not taking offense as a deadhead but it is pretty easy to see why you don't get it. If you've hit mute, you just can't hear it.
The Dead are in most cases an acquired taste (that being neither good nor bad) but if you don't give it a chance or two or three, you probably won't ever appreciate any part of it. IMO there's a lot more to it than drugs or having to have been there. We all seek different things from music and it may be that you are looking for more or less than the Deads' introspection and musings offer. These are stories, exercises, essays- if you will. For some of us, their reflections "get" to the core of life and existance and our thoughts and experiences as human beings.
btw, I enjoy your comments on RP.
tkosh:
What a great description. I was only part way there for the Dead, but enjoy their music tremendously. To me it's like jazz—once you get the groove, it just gets in your blood, right to your heart. And that just doesn't seem to go away.
BlueHeronDruid wrote:
Not necessary
I'm guessing this is one of those "you had to be there" moments.
Not necessary
I'm guessing this is one of those "you had to be there" moments.
Hi Fred,
I'm not taking offense as a deadhead but it is pretty easy to see why you don't get it. If you've hit mute, you just can't hear it.
The Dead are in most cases an acquired taste (that being neither good nor bad) but if you don't give it a chance or two or three, you probably won't ever appreciate any part of it. IMO there's a lot more to it than drugs or having to have been there. We all seek different things from music and it may be that you are looking for more or less than the Deads' introspection and musings offer. These are stories, exercises, essays- if you will. For some of us, their reflections "get" to the core of life and existance and our thoughts and experiences as human beings.
btw, I enjoy your comments on RP.
fredriley wrote:
I'm not taking offense as a deadhead but it is pretty easy to see why you don't get it. If you've hit mute, you just can't hear it.
The Dead are in most cases an acquired taste (that being neither good nor bad) but if you don't give it a chance or two or three, you probably won't ever appreciate any part of it. IMO there's a lot more to it than drugs or having to have been there. We all seek different things from music and it may be that you are looking for more or less than the Deads' introspection and musings offer. These are stories, exercises, essays- if you will. For some of us, their reflections "get" to the core of life and existance and our thoughts and experiences as human beings.
btw, I enjoy your comments on RP.
fredriley wrote:
This starts, so I hit mute, listen to two tracks on iTunes, go answer the phone and spend 5 minutes on the conversation, come back, and this lot are still feckin' going. How long is this blasted toon anyway?
I don't get the thing about the Dead and drugs. Back in the day when I smoked grass like there was no tomorrow, this would have been seriously excruciating to listen to when I was high. The thing about blow is that it magnifies your appreciation of physical sensation, particularly hearing, and the thought of the Dead ten times as ear-mangling is frightening. Maybe I should have been strapped down, made to smoke stiff spliffs, then had the Dead played at me for ten hours straight. That would have been some serious aversion therapy and would have kept me off blow for life.
I know, ya hadda be there, but I wasn't so don't get it at all. Kudos to RP for mixing up oldies with 'newies', but sometimes oldies just don't travel through time well, and the Dead are such a group. IMHO, naturally, and no offence intended to Deadheads, stoned or straight :*)
I don't get the thing about the Dead and drugs. Back in the day when I smoked grass like there was no tomorrow, this would have been seriously excruciating to listen to when I was high. The thing about blow is that it magnifies your appreciation of physical sensation, particularly hearing, and the thought of the Dead ten times as ear-mangling is frightening. Maybe I should have been strapped down, made to smoke stiff spliffs, then had the Dead played at me for ten hours straight. That would have been some serious aversion therapy and would have kept me off blow for life.
I know, ya hadda be there, but I wasn't so don't get it at all. Kudos to RP for mixing up oldies with 'newies', but sometimes oldies just don't travel through time well, and the Dead are such a group. IMHO, naturally, and no offence intended to Deadheads, stoned or straight :*)
This starts, so I hit mute, listen to two tracks on iTunes, go answer the phone and spend 5 minutes on the conversation, come back, and this lot are still feckin' going. How long is this blasted toon anyway?
I don't get the thing about the Dead and drugs. Back in the day when I smoked grass like there was no tomorrow, this would have been seriously excruciating to listen to when I was high. The thing about blow is that it magnifies your appreciation of physical sensation, particularly hearing, and the thought of the Dead ten times as ear-mangling is frightening. Maybe I should have been strapped down, made to smoke stiff spliffs, then had the Dead played at me for ten hours straight. That would have been some serious aversion therapy and would have kept me off blow for life.
I know, ya hadda be there, but I wasn't so don't get it at all. Kudos to RP for mixing up oldies with 'newies', but sometimes oldies just don't travel through time well, and the Dead are such a group. IMHO, naturally, and no offence intended to Deadheads, stoned or straight :*)
I don't get the thing about the Dead and drugs. Back in the day when I smoked grass like there was no tomorrow, this would have been seriously excruciating to listen to when I was high. The thing about blow is that it magnifies your appreciation of physical sensation, particularly hearing, and the thought of the Dead ten times as ear-mangling is frightening. Maybe I should have been strapped down, made to smoke stiff spliffs, then had the Dead played at me for ten hours straight. That would have been some serious aversion therapy and would have kept me off blow for life.
I know, ya hadda be there, but I wasn't so don't get it at all. Kudos to RP for mixing up oldies with 'newies', but sometimes oldies just don't travel through time well, and the Dead are such a group. IMHO, naturally, and no offence intended to Deadheads, stoned or straight :*)
This is so good for me today. I've been called worse than a "Deadhead."
Thr road take's one more off into the sunset... RIP Bear
RIP "Bear".
Granfaloons of the Dead. Franklin Hoenikker.
Today is just strange. I'm not really a Dead Head. Growing up a love child I grew up listening to this and somehow I think I rebelled against this music.
But today... it's ok.
Maybe because I'm grown up now? Who knows...
just saying....
But today... it's ok.
Maybe because I'm grown up now? Who knows...
just saying....
Webfoot wrote:
It's not so much "hating" as just "not liking." This is only "music that I don't prefer." I find very little music that I hate outside of music promoting violence towards women, etc., which RP doesn't play anyway. Within the context of what I hear RP playing, this is on the bottom end of the scale —- for me. Bill sets the bar pretty high in general. Maybe it's just the pop term "hater," which is mostly an exaggeration for clarity. Don't take my opinion that seriously, as it just is what it is —- an opinion. No offense is meant. Maybe "hate" is the right term for some people, but all we can do is have compassion for them as they are just souls crying out for love.
Makes me wish that I had written this. Well put.
It's not so much "hating" as just "not liking." This is only "music that I don't prefer." I find very little music that I hate outside of music promoting violence towards women, etc., which RP doesn't play anyway. Within the context of what I hear RP playing, this is on the bottom end of the scale —- for me. Bill sets the bar pretty high in general. Maybe it's just the pop term "hater," which is mostly an exaggeration for clarity. Don't take my opinion that seriously, as it just is what it is —- an opinion. No offense is meant. Maybe "hate" is the right term for some people, but all we can do is have compassion for them as they are just souls crying out for love.
Makes me wish that I had written this. Well put.
Good Rhythm...Whatever to the rest of the constant diatribes.
So sweet....
I grew up in Eugene. Was never interested in seeing the Dead when they came through, turned down tickets. I love music, love a ginormous variety, but have never ever EVER connected with these guys. What am I missing?
And if you have the answer to that, can you also please weigh in on why I don't understand One Hundred Years of Solitude. Tried reading it twice. Totally lost on me.
Awesome randomness, huh. It's truly what was in my brain just now. See what the Dead does to my brain!
I grew up in the 80s when the Dead staged a comeback of sorts with the album, "Touch of Grey." I thought it was a decent song but then again I was 14 at the time. I always associated The Dead with Hippie culture and being a child of hippies, promptly resented their music.
That said, in college and after, people whose music opinions I respected loved The Dead, and then I met my future wife who was a certified Deadhead. Adopting a love of their music was always going to be baked into my life cake. Still though, their songs grew on me over the years and my respect for their talents also grew. Jerry truly was an awesome musical force and their shows created an entire culture around the celebration of music.
Hope this helps. Am still laboring through 100 Years of Solitude, I also don't quite understand the appeal of that book.