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The Smashing Pumpkins — Rhinoceros
Album: Gish
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Released: 1992
Length: 5:44
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Planned a show
Trees and Balloons
Ice cream snow
See you in June

Could have known
I would reveal
Should have known
I would conceal your way

She knows, she knows, she knows
She knows, she knows, she knows
How's it
She knows, she knows, she knows

Colors show
After the moon
I should go
See you in June
Your way

Open your eyes
To these must I lie?
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90's Alt Rock Supergroup 
This will never, ever get old! Brings me back to school every time.. Not sure if that's always a good thing, but still it's a big 9 from me
A top contender for one of the best debut albums of any rock band
Like most TSP songs, you can hear and feel this one coming a mile away... The reward of the rush and thrill of them is way up there...
 dragon1952 wrote:
I'm 64 yrs old and I love Billy Corgan. Even though he's a bit odd, the dude is just so talented and unique, as is this song.

 
I liked Billy Corgan better when he worked at a used record store by my house in the Jefferson Park neighborhood in Chicago.  It was called Record Hunt in case anyone wants to verify that.



just tedious noise. PSD
I'm 64 yrs old and I love Billy Corgan. Even though he's a bit odd, the dude is just so talented and unique, as is this song.
 idiot_wind wrote:
Hey Low,

In my opinion...this song and this band still sucks: boring, predictable, monotonic, whiny, thud and drone.  

 
People might be a little weary of seeing you post "thud and drone" on every Pumpkins song, over and over. We get it idiot, you don't like them.

Now find another band to shitpost all day, hmm?
Hey Low,

In my opinion...this song and this band still sucks: boring, predictable, monotonic, whiny, thud and drone.  
 idiot_wind wrote:

You should maybe Google "Idiot Wind". 

Geeez.  

 
I've known what it is since way before Google. That's why I italicized the first word in your case.
 Chrisjea wrote:
Never a big SP fan.  Rather than trash the song/artist I pushed mute.

 
You still kind of trashed them anyway by merely reporting this. But it's a step in the good direction.
Damn I really, really, really dislike this band...esp. BC's vocals
Never a big SP fan.  Rather than trash the song/artist I pushed mute.
 Lacapella wrote:
Meant to be checking emails but instead staring out at the cold April south of France rain and listening to the music

 
Il ne fait pas plus beau ici. 15 jours de suite ou il pleut. Vive la music pour me remonter le moral.
Meant to be checking emails but instead staring out at the cold April south of France rain and listening to the music
 idiot_wind wrote:

You should maybe Google "Idiot Wind". 

Geeez.  

 
LowPhreak (correctly) didn't say you were living up to the whole thing.
The title is still misspelled in the RP database after all those years, but I kind of like the idea of calling something rhinocerous, in the sense of “having rhinoceros-like qualities”. {#Cheesygrin}
 idiot_wind wrote:

You should maybe Google "Idiot Wind". 

Geeez.  

 
would that be the Minnesota or New York version?
 LowPhreak wrote:
I see you're still living up to your moniker, idiot wind. {#Beat}

 
You should maybe Google "Idiot Wind". 

Geeez.  
Rhino is one of my favorites :). My ballet/modern dance teacher growing up choreographed our entire recital to SP's Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness album. Dancers from ages 6 - 30 were rocking out on stage in front of our parents to SP - it was awesome!!! 
I see you're still living up to your moniker, idiot wind. {#Beat}
Whah. Whah. Whah.

Ughhhhh.

Whah. Whah. Whah.

Ughhhhhh.

 Hey I just became a song writer for the this band!

 Now where's my #$%^ check? 

Love Smashing Pumpkins {#Smile}
Hey folks what kind of cheese should go with all the "whining" from this song, this album, and this band?

But give them credit for miking a genre that sold alot of albums that all sounded the same. 
These guys rock. Period
 
 MassivRuss wrote:

That describes RadioHead. Who seem to worshiped in large numbers here at RP. By you perhaps?

 
Given all of that guy's countless, repetitive posts about "thud & drone" and "pain, angst, anger, despair", I don't think he likes much of anything recorded after 1974, including any tunes by your good pals from Radiohead.
 idiot_wind wrote:
Thud and drone crap! Stop it, please!

 
Use your mute button, idiot.

So much hatred? I like it, in fact I like the whole album and very much enjoy listening to it!


To me, this earlier Pumpkin stuff represents some of the last creative, agressive, all up in your face rock and/or roll guitar work.

I am a listening fan of old Eddie Van Halen and Dave Navarro guitar playing.

Any comments on bands exhibiting current guitar work like that stuff?


Thud and drone crap! Stop it, please!
Never want to hear these guys again.
 
 idiot_wind wrote:

My god...dreadful "thud and drone" genre that got way too much play.

 

Let me see: every song must have Pain, Angst, Anger, or Despair expressed in boring, repetitive, truncated, muted singing and playing. This is called the PAAD formula and this band followed it.

 

 



 
That describes RadioHead. Who seem to worshipped in large numbers here at RP. By you perhaps?

My god...dreadful "thud and drone" genre that got way too much play.

 

Let me see: every song must have Pain, Angst, Anger, or Despair expressed in boring, repetitive, truncated, muted singing and playing. This is called the PAAD formula and this band followed it.

 

 


 Boy_Wonder wrote:
MAKE IT STOP!!! PLEASE!!

 
Use your Mute function, moron.
This type of sound has had its ons & offs, but it certainly fills the bill well on a frickin' cold and gray day like today, nested in a KILLER SET
 Boy_Wonder wrote:
MAKE IT STOP!!! PLEASE!!

 
It's not your fault.
Ahhhh, the pumpkins soothe me.
 TerryS wrote: 
Not sure of the Kripke Structure relevance to this song, but you should try to set your links so they open in a new window and not break the audio stream.
Brings back my grunge days

marvelous...  love it...
 
Cogito ergo cogitum, or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kripke_structure
 BBoyes wrote:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I think music is like religion - we have different needs at different times in our lives so what fits best also changes. Which makes me wonder if we are OK with a wide array of music through life, why do so many put so much effort into making religion (or spirituality if you prefer) a one-size-fits-all-for-life solution?
 

That's profound...  well  said...

two atheistic French dudes made existentialism famous and people often think existentialism and atheism are synonymous, but that's not true...  existentialists can believe whatever they wish as individuals...

existentialists believe that objectively, everything is absurd, so subjectively, people are free to believe whatever they wish—  life is a custom fit...

as John Lennon sang, "Whatever gets you through the night, it's all right..."
 
Yeah, I know what you mean. I think music is like religion - we have different needs at different times in our lives so what fits best also changes. Which makes me wonder if we are OK with a wide array of music through life, why do so many put so much effort into making religion (or spirituality if you prefer) a one-size-fits-all-for-life solution?

Everybody in my church loves this song...
 

I seems absurd but I bought a couple of Smashing Pumpkins albums when the were released, but they did nothing for me and I shelved them.  A year ago I heard Luna from Siamese Dream on Radio Paradise and fell in love, dug out my old CD’s and started buying the back catalog. I’m now asking myself how on earth I missed them first time round?


 vit wrote:

I was just coming here to ask about this. Rhinocerous came off of Gish right? That's the only album of theirs I find listenable. It sounds totally different from — and just absolutely superior to — the rest of their stuff to me. Is it just my imagination?
 
Totally agree.  Gish is a fantastic album and none of their others could touch it, IMO.
MAKE IT STOP!!! PLEASE!!
 vanmas wrote:
Depressing and boring...
Like almost all of their music...
 
I was just coming here to ask about this. Rhinocerous came off of Gish right? That's the only album of theirs I find listenable. It sounds totally different from — and just absolutely superior to — the rest of their stuff to me. Is it just my imagination?
Depressing and boring...
Like almost all of their music...
There are better Songs from Good old Smashing Pumpkins...but it depends on the ear of the listener...don´t you think?
Sounds like Nirvana on qualudes.  Wake me up when it's over.
There are two songs on this rotten apples album that have incredible feedback solos cutoff.  This song and Drown.  They are both in somewhat regular rotation here, and every time I hear one or the other I miss those solos.  

Better than nothing though! 
You know, for as long as it lasted, grunge wasn't half bad.
Pumpkins song that Silversun Pickups sound the most like. :-)
Incredible tune from an even better debut album!
Nice guitar line. 
 
 romeotuma wrote:


Everybody in my hotel room loves this song...


 
  

 

How many people are there in your hotel room?


Wow - 2 Pumpkins tunes (from their 2 best albums) within a few hours - LOVE IT!

Smashing Great Pumpkin!
 TerryS wrote:
I made up my mind not to like this track back in the day, I was wrong.

 
Haha, me too! But listening to it now, it sounds SO good.

One of my favorites.
 Jelani wrote:
Chinos? 
He's really into pants I guess. 
 
I know Billy Corgan's distinctive nasal whine makes it hard to tell, but he's actually singing about Cheetos™. 

Galicious!
This should be followed by 3 Days.
Wow -pretty cool!
I made up my mind not to like this track back in the day, I was wrong.

Gosh!  {#Bounce}
Gish
Gish!

 
to these must i lie ?
 tapatia1072 wrote:
I absolutely love this song - my favorite song off their finest album (IMHO). No, not Rotten Apples - Gish.
 

I agree. I bought Gish after hearing this track on a college radio station and it is still my favorite S.P. album.
Chinos? 
He's really into pants I guess. 
 Toke wrote:
Honest ? She Knows You Know ......
 
I know that you know that she knows, you know?
Excellent selection. 
Honest ? She Knows You Know ......
I absolutely love this song - my favorite song off their finest album (IMHO). No, not Rotten Apples - Gish.
Aaaaaaaaaah, those were the days!  {#Good-vibes}

That early stuff is just so fantastic!
 philbertr wrote:
Does she know?
 
she knows ho's

 window wrote:
Man, what a great song.  Fantastic drumming, and trademark SP guitar interplay.
 
agreed, fantastic on every level.

Man, what a great song.  Fantastic drumming, and trademark SP guitar interplay.
 raerae333 wrote:


yes....
 
HOW...does she know...? 
 philbertr wrote:
Does she know?
 

yes....
 More_Cowbell wrote:


Isnt it good for the ears?
 

thank god someone called him on that. that was getting way old. too fng funny!
yesterday at this time RP was pretty downbeat today we rock. What a great station.
 romeotuma wrote:


cool song...
 

Isnt it good for the ears?
Thank goodness a Rhinocerous didn't wonder into the recording studio and trample the master tape of this recording......{#Whistle}

love when I recognize the opening to a great song - an album track I love - but can't quite place it....and then.... great tune

Billy has a lot of musical range.


trying to remember the full show when I saw them in Dec 1993 at Chicago's Aragon Ballroom ... believe Soul Asylum and the Jayhawks w/ Victoria Williams opened ... amazing, amazing, amazing.
Does she know?
One of the best live shows I've seen.  It was 2 days before Jonathan Melvoin's OD.  I was floored by the news. 
 jagdriver wrote:


WYLD STALLYON!
 
Not a big Pumpkin fan, but this is pretty sweet. Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey now up on Hulu.com btw.

 Hannio wrote:
This is fabulous.
 
And also rhinocerous. Unless Bill has fixed that typo by the time you read this

Love how I can hear James Iha's guitar at the beginning and know it's the Pumpkins right away.

My favourite band, they can do no wrong!
one of the great original rock and roll bands
 xkolibuul wrote:
I was liking this song (yes including the vocals, you nitwits) until the formulaic screeching guitars entered the picture. Not the direction the song needed to go. Still, its about the best I've heard the SPs sound.

 

WYLD STALLYON!
All of the hate for SP makes me laugh. Trent Reznor does the same kind of thing (and then some) and it's ok. Many rock legends are known for being kind of crazy and obsessive, and that's fine. Billy gets all kinds of criticism though, yet the band's discography is truly one of a kind.

Some people like to say everything went downhill after Gish and Siamese Dream, but I disagree. I think the fact that they branched out and tired different things is a testament to Billy's desire to take risks instead of doing what would make more money. Remember, this is a band that at one point got sued by its label for basically not pumping out one double album after another. You may want to think again before you say he "sold out" after the first couple albums. "Selling out" is irrelevant. All bands do. Yes, even the countless "indie" bands that you nitpickers fall in love with who sell their songs to automobile makers to use in their bland commercials.



sheswithzappa wrote:
i can't get over how YOUNG they are in that photo, my oh my......

Yeah, what's Billy, like 14?

9 => 10!!!
Love this song.....
The Pumpkins are great! From beginning to the end...
teapot wrote:
During the slow parts it sounds just like Silversun Pickups...
awfully out of sequence...by 15 years
I was going to say that these guys are nowhere cool enough to play twice in one day. But by playing a song from Gish it might as well be 2 different bands. Cheers.
Great Smashing Pumpkin song. A little slow for Friday afternoon but hey, its all good.
i can't get over how YOUNG they are in that photo, my oh my......
My fave 'Punkins tune. :good-vibes:
Pure bliss. I remember first time hearing this, one of those sounds unlike any other. This is from first album before Billy seemed to fall off narcissistic edge.
xkolibuul wrote:
I was liking this song (yes including the vocals, you nitwits) until the formulaic screeching guitars entered the picture. Not the direction the song needed to go. Still, its about the best I've heard the SPs sound.
I agree. However, I do like much of SP's work. I still do not own any of their albums.
Beaker wrote:
Such noise. I'd probably appreciate this track more if I was about ten blocks away.
Billy likes noise. If you like noise, particularly of the loud variety, you will probably like most of the loud moments of Smashing Pumpkins (as opposed to the quiet, opiate-induced D'Arcy moments.) There is a quota of BC I can take - past a certain point the screeching and his seemingly limitless ego-mongering get to me. But at times I too like noise, and don't necessarily have to be blocks away (as long as I don't live in the neighborhood I'm good!) - Riff
andiman wrote:
So pleasent, so good. And so sad that the best days of Billy seem to be over...
Eh ... everyone has peaks and vallies. I'm just happy for the ones we still have, and hope they keep banging away at it.
A don't forget the Hiphopopotamus
teapot wrote:
During the slow parts it sounds just like Silversun Pickups...
No...SSP sound like SP.
So pleasent, so good. And so sad that the best days of Billy seem to be over...
I was liking this song (yes including the vocals, you nitwits) until the formulaic screeching guitars entered the picture. Not the direction the song needed to go. Still, its about the best I've heard the SPs sound.
DD closemindedmoron wrote:
Billy Corgan is one of those types that when he was in High School he painted his nails black, wore eye shadow, sat by himself at lunch, and wrote depressing dark poetry. He sucks.
you went to high school with him? cool! :shifty:
During the slow parts it sounds just like Silversun Pickups...
This guy is so overrated it's sickening; bad music and bad voice.
Jimmy Chamberlin is a genius on drums :drummer: His drumming and Corgan's lyrics are what make the Pumpkins work.
DD closemindedmoron wrote:
Agreed, they have nothing on a band such as RAT!
This would be funny if it was sarcastic ... but sadly, coming from closemindedmoron, it's probably what he really thinks.
This is fabulous.