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PJ Harvey — This Mess We're In (w/ Thom Yorke)
Album: Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
Avg rating:
7.3

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Total ratings: 2428









Released: 2000
Length: 3:48
Plays (last 30 days): 3
Can you hear them
The helicopters?
I'm in New York
No need for words now
We sit in silence
You look me
In the eye directly
You met me
I think it's Wednesday
The evening
The mess we're in
And ooooh...

The city sunset over me
The city sunset over me

Night and day
I dream of
Making love
To you now baby
Love making
On screen
Impossible dream
And I have seen
The sunrise over the river
The freeway
Reminding of
This mess we're in

And ooooh...
The city sunset over me
Ooooh...
The city sunset over me

And ooooh...
The city sunset over me
Ooooh...
The city sunset over me

What were you wanting? / What was he wanted?
I just wanna say / I just wanna say
Don't ever change now baby / Don't ever change
I'd thank you / I'd thank you
I don't think we will meet again / I don't think we will meet again
And you must leave now / And you must leave now
Before the sun rises / Before the sun rises
Above the skycrapers / Above the skycrapers
And the city landscape comes into view / And the city landscape comes into view
Swell on my skin
Oh
This mess we're in
Ooooh...

And ooooh...
The city sunset over me
Ooooh...
The city sunset over me

And ooooh...
The city sunset over me
Ooooh...
The city sunset over me
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Excellent arrangement and performance.

Damn.  I mistakenly forwarded past the ending with these new fancy headphones.  Once again, a victim of technology.
geilomat 
Gorgeous album the day it came out stands the true test of time and artistry. LOVE THIS EFFING SONG. 
 Proclivities wrote:
 ace-marc wrote:
Let's face the facts: This was a weak album by a weak band.
Really no need to play it. 
Opinions - even when repeated verbatim for two different songs on the same day - are not facts.
 
I'd even go so far to say opinions repeated verbatim cannot be fact, cuz opinions change!
For instance, I've gone from a 4 to 6 to 7 and today to 8 on this one as my opinion (of PJ, & TY/RH) has changed...LLRP and changing opinions!!

Fantastic!
 cavemanleong wrote:
Fan-freaking-tastic! Love Polly Jean and everything she makes.
 

100% with you! I have to admit I have a bit of a crush...
Harvey no giv gitar
York
Not my favorite track from this excellent overall album. Check out:

The Whores Hustle And The Hustlers Whore
You Said Something - or
This Is Love
Better?

 ace-marc wrote:
Let's face the facts: This was a weak album by a weak band.
Really no need to play it. 

 
I think you may find some disagreement out there



Rolling Stone awarded her 1992's Best New Artist and Best Singer Songwriter and 1995's Artist of the Year, and listed Rid of Me, To Bring You My Love (1995) and Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea on its 500 Greatest Albums of All Time list.


In 1995, upon purchasing a 1942 Studebaker Champion 4 door ( suicide doors ) I christened her Polly Jean, in honor of Ms Harvey.  I still have her  -- the car, not
Ms Harvey.  
 ace-marc wrote:
Let's face the facts: This was a weak album by a weak band.
Really no need to play it. 
Opinions - even when repeated verbatim for two different songs on the same day - are not facts.
I was listening away from my screen and heard the lyric 'Night and day I dream of Making love To you now baby' and thought that the dreary dude had no chance and should go back to listening to Radiohead in solitude - then found who was singing! True story. Not my bag at all, and not a marriage made in heaven for me, but then I have tried and failed to 'get' Radiohead. I'm probably too old and happy!
Must be in special mood to enjoy this. I am in that mood right now.
There's a lot of rudeness directed to the artists with this one.  I don't like it, so I PSD it.  Both artists polarise opinion, but that's what makes them great.  My opinion doesn't count, but I don't enjoy the bile towards either.
 jonahboo wrote:
amazing


j/k
Thom is terrible
 
dude, you read my mind
 GerardVanDenBerg wrote:
I wouldn't call this music.
 

Can you hear sounds arranged in time?
amazing


j/k
Thom is terrible
Tough call...but this is probably my favorite Thom vocal ever.
My two favourite miserable singers, together :-)
Keine ist wie Polly Jean
great song, sounds like a sequel to street spirit (fade out)...
I wouldn't call this music. The voice and guitar don't seem to connect. I don't hear singing but moaning, terrible.
i love this song...great tune!

 kcar wrote:


You read my mind. Radiohead should leave him at a truck  stop in Pomona.
 
Luckily, PJ Harvey does not agree with you.
 jelgator wrote:
I think PJ Harvey is great.  Sorry she had to defile this song with Thom Yorke.  PSD.
 

You read my mind. Radiohead should leave him at a truck  stop in Pomona.
So I heard this song and immediately thought it was Radiohead, so had to look it up...aha, Thom Yorke. I actually find myself very drawn to Radiohead. I'm not sure why, but everytime they come up on RP I'm always intrigued--often it's not a song I've heard before.  Surprised to see so many displeased with them...as always, to each his own
I think PJ Harvey is great.  Sorry she had to defile this song with Thom Yorke.  PSD.
 lizardking wrote:
Can someone please help me find Radiohead or T. Yorke tunes that are a good intro to his style?  I'm not entirely opposed to the whiny voice once I "get it" and for instance on this track, not until he and she do a bit of harmonizing do I feel like I enjoy the song. 
 
fake plastic trees


great song, getting better each time i hear it...

Why would you ruin a song by inviting Thom Yorke and his painful rectal itch of a voice?
 Deadwing wrote:
Wow, just dreadful. That may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Makes "Boats and Hoes" from Stepbrothers sound like a sonata.
 
Yes, wherever I hear Thom's whining I go into panick mode to press PSD or >| as fast as possible.
Fan-freaking-tastic! Love Polly Jean and everything she makes.
Wow, just dreadful. That may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Makes "Boats and Hoes" from Stepbrothers sound like a sonata.
Is she P J Proby's sister?
                                  
Help :(
Can someone please help me find Radiohead or T. Yorke tunes that are a good intro to his style?  I'm not entirely opposed to the whiny voice once I "get it" and for instance on this track, not until he and she do a bit of harmonizing do I feel like I enjoy the song. 
that guy sounds like a real Creep
 MassivRuss wrote:

Thom Yorke - pitiful. What is the great attraction to his whiny horrible voice and meager musical talent?

 
Sure this song would gain some "power" if sung by James Hetfield. But then again...

Solid 9 for me. I can hardly imagine any song that fits better with Thom Yorke's whiny great voice and great musical talent (including even "Rabbit in your Headlight").
 Lazarus wrote: 
Thom Yorke - pitiful. What is the great attraction to his whiny horrible voice and meager musical talent?
Thom Yorke is not for me... RP redeemed by playing a nice cover of underrated Neil Diamond by Chris Isaak — Solitary Man 

maboleth wrote:

Absolutely. With his tiny pitiful voice. :)

 


 hanssachs wrote:
It doesn't get better with repeated listenings, does it?  Worse every damn time. 

hanssachs wrote:
Christ, not again again!

hanssachs wrote:
Christ, not again .... Thom Yorke's whining gets less interesting and more irritating every time it pops up.

 

 

 
No, your whining does not get any better with repetition.
It doesn't get better with repeated listenings, does it?  Worse every damn time. 

hanssachs wrote:
Christ, not again again!

hanssachs wrote:
Christ, not again .... Thom Yorke's whining gets less interesting and more irritating every time it pops up.

 

 


 MassivRuss wrote:
Way to ruin a song PJ: add Thom Yorke. Yeeesh.

 
Absolutely. With his tiny pitiful voice. :)
Way to ruin a song PJ: add Thom Yorke. Yeeesh.
Glorious stuff 💖 and I can't  stand her.
 adpucci wrote:

seconded.
 
third, fourth and fifth.  (I have multiple personality syndrome.)
great transition from suzanne vega, nicely done!  Remember my offer to be guest DJ with my wife...still stands!!!  Low price!
sounds like 'Static On The Radio' to me
(except i like that song better than this, i think)
just my tupence worth
 fifupoche wrote:
Play anything PJ, play anything Yorke!

 
seconded.
Match made in heaven
sorry, i like the song okay, but the visual of thom yorke and pj harvey gettin their nasty on is a bit off-putting.
Play anything PJ, play anything Yorke!
Love this...
This song is pure drivel, I have noticed lately a vast departure from the usually very interesting playlist into slow electronica type Brian Ferryish
and more ambient music..what happened to this station? it was everyone's favorite in second life and streamed onto many of the public sims.
Appears the whiners have taken control,  " Less confessin and more professin" 
 MinMan wrote:
 handyrae wrote:
Is this Thom Yorke's birthday or something? This is the third song with him singing that RP has played in the last 6 hours. That's two too many in such a short span as far as I'm concerned. 
Clearly this is not your Radiohead Paradise; maybe it's time to check out some other station.

For me, this is fine... just fine. Beats the pants off those "Spring Standards" (Gawd... what a relief).

 
Seriously? Just because I hate Thom Yorke's whining enough that hearing it three times in a six hour period makes me raise an eyebrow, doesn't mean I would go find another station. Worse comes to worse, I'll hit the PSD button. RP is the only music radio station I listen to and I'm set up for an automatic monthly donation. 
He can't sing. Fire him.
Christ, not again again!

hanssachs wrote:
Christ, not again .... Thom Yorke's whining gets less interesting and more irritating every time it pops up.

 


 railroadwail wrote:

Nice I like the talking part that PJ provides



 
{#Clap}   ...... and me
Christ, not again .... Thom Yorke's whining gets less interesting and more irritating every time it pops up.
Polly Jean's earlier work is pretty good too - perfect day for Eloise get the blood flowing...

Good to lighten up occasionally, not every part of every blog post is intended to taken entirely seriously.

 MinMan wrote:
 handyrae wrote:
Is this Thom Yorke's birthday or something? This is the third song with him singing that RP has played in the last 6 hours. That's two too many in such a short span as far as I'm concerned. 
Clearly this is not your Radiohead Paradise; maybe it's time to check out some other station.

For me, this is fine... just fine. Beats the pants off those "Spring Standards" (Gawd... what a relief).

 
You think RadioHead is the only reason to listen to RP?
 "You do not see Thom Yorke's genius!?! Begone!"  The closed world of the RH devotee seems yet another knock on the band, on top of  barren melodic noodling, pretentious artistic angst, and Thom Yorke's really dreadful voice.

And why would PJ Harvey want to do a song that's only going to sound like a hundred RadioHead songs? Why bother?
This sounds more like a Radiohead/Yorke song than PJ's (I quite like her work, btw).
 handyrae wrote:
Is this Thom Yorke's birthday or something? This is the third song with him singing that RP has played in the last 6 hours. That's two too many in such a short span as far as I'm concerned. 
Clearly this is not your Radiohead Paradise; maybe it's time to check out some other station.

For me, this is fine... just fine. Beats the pants off those "Spring Standards" (Gawd... what a relief).
Is this Thom Yorke's birthday or something? This is the third song with him singing that RP has played in the last 6 hours. That's two too many in such a short span as far as I'm concerned.
God, that warbling falsetto really cuts through the din of the workplace.  That's not a compliment.
Great song but I wish that whiny bastard Thom Yorke would get the fuck out.
 kaybee wrote:
I've put this up to a 6, (which is not bad, really) but I really wish PJ could have found someone else for this song.  I don't mind Thom Yorke's voice most of the time; I just find his falsetto objectionable.

 
Gosh, I do apologize. That warbling was my failure to get a firm grip on Thom's throat while I was trying to choke him. 

I'm stickin' with my "2" rating.  

Nice I like the talking part that PJ provides


I've put this up to a 6, (which is not bad, really) but I really wish PJ could have found someone else for this song.  I don't mind Thom Yorke's voice most of the time; I just find his falsetto objectionable.
Incredible song! Especially given it's release within a year of 9-11!  Made more significant b/c she went to NYC for the year prior to 9-11 to gain inspiration for this album....a bit of an omen album I believe, another song on the disc is Kamikaze.
Oh dear God make it end{#Headache}
I'm gonna listen to this album on my ride home from work today. Thanks RP. 
*My* very first PJ HArvey album. Also still my only one... but a couple of songs on it I do love!
As chance would have it, RP plays my favorite "You said something" on a regular basis!  {#Clap}
Hopeless fan of Radiohead, I remember quite well the surprise when Yorke's voice suddenly came out of my loudspeakers.{#Think} ...{#Mrgreen}
Great album.  
 lemmoth wrote:

HUH??  It's her bloody song.  Thom is just guesting.  here.
 
exactamente.
 oilydwarf wrote:
would be better without the cheesy repeated voiceover by ms harvey
 

yup
 oilydwarf wrote:
would be better without the cheesy repeated voiceover by ms harvey
 
HUH??  It's her bloody song.  Thom is just guesting.  here.
{#Daisy}
would be better without the cheesy repeated voiceover by ms harvey
sooo hot
 DigitalJer wrote:
Gets a strong 7 from me...

PLUS I get to interject on an otherwise negative string of posts.  Breaking the cycle, that's what I'm all about!!
 
{#Heartkiss} Thom Yorke!  and i like PJ Harvey a little better because of this song!
Gets a strong 7 from me...

PLUS I get to interject on an otherwise negative string of posts.  Breaking the cycle, that's what I'm all about!!
Sensuality is a good thing. This song is a good thing. Happiness is a good thing.
Thom Yorke's voice is horrible. Wimpy and small.
 keller1 wrote:

I disagree. "Spare us" is one thing.  "Please spare us" is quite another.

And like I have repeatedly said —- to no avail, apparently —- is that asking Bill to spare us a song, modified by "please" or not, is hardly dictating anything.  It's just a plaintive request for less, as one other poster put it, of that "whiny prick" Thom Yorke.

So, that's the argument, and in my mind it makes the "stop trying to dictate" thing, logically, a non sequitur.

To paraphrase on old saw:  "Never get into an argument with a pedant.  They'll just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

So, I'm done wasting electrons on you.  The last word is yours.
 
No wonder you haven't made any sense during this entire exchange.  You've been arguing that "spare us" means "play this song less".  Seriously?  Even if that were a commonly accepted definition of the phrase, the context of its use here makes it clear that that wasn't what was intended.

Your argument is nonsensical.  You can throw "pedant" my way all you'd like (ironic, as you're the one doing loud spelling corrections and claiming a radical (and clearly unintended) meaning change related to the word "please" here).  It doesn't change the fact that you're full of hot air.

Have a nice day.
 dwhayslett wrote:

You think "please" fundamentally changes the meaning of "spare us", and you call *me* pedantic?

The meaning of "spare us" is not modified by the "please".  Read, yourself.
 
I disagree. "Spare us" is one thing.  "Please spare us" is quite another.

And like I have repeatedly said —- to no avail, apparently —- is that asking Bill to spare us a song, modified by "please" or not, is hardly dictating anything.  It's just a plaintive request for less, as one other poster put it, of that "whiny prick" Thom Yorke.

So, that's the argument, and in my mind it makes the "stop trying to dictate" thing, logically, a non sequitur.

To paraphrase on old saw:  "Never get into an argument with a pedant.  They'll just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

So, I'm done wasting electrons on you.  The last word is yours.
 keller1 wrote:


Read, my pedantic friend, read.

"Please" does not enter into the conversation if one is trying to dictate.
 
You think "please" fundamentally changes the meaning of "spare us", and you call *me* pedantic?

The meaning of "spare us" is not modified by the "please".  Read, yourself.
 dwhayslett wrote:

Oh?  I can't imagine any reading of that statement that *doesn't* construe exactly that.  So I repeat my previous question:  What exactly do you think "Please spare us" means?
 

Read, my pedantic friend, read.

"Please" does not enter into the conversation if one is trying to dictate.
 keller1 wrote:

A literal reading of the statement "Please spare us" could hardly be construed as dictating anything.
 
Oh?  I can't imagine any reading of that statement that *doesn't* construe exactly that.  So I repeat my previous question:  What exactly do you think "Please spare us" means?
 dwhayslett wrote:

Like your attention span, your logic is deficient.  There's no inconsistency between "stop trying to dictate" and "The writer of the latter can't dictate ...".

But your spelling is excellent, though.  So there's that.

 
A literal reading of the statement "Please spare us" could hardly be construed as dictating anything.


s'just a song on the radio guys.    .............. oh look, its over.     I like Thom/RH but his morose stuff like this is surely there to convey angst and emotion.   it did.   s'just a song.

This must be a euphoric mess we're in, the best kind.


 keller1 wrote:


Pardon my short attention span.

"Stop trying to dictate" is a non sequitur (note the correct spelling) vis a vis "Spare us".

The writer of the latter can't dictate anything, as demonstrated by Bill's abject refusal to play this POS less.
 
Like your attention span, your logic is deficient.  There's no inconsistency between "stop trying to dictate" and "The writer of the latter can't dictate ...".

But your spelling is excellent, though.  So there's that.

 dwhayslett wrote:

Where did I say that *you* wrote that?  (Go back and read your first post that I replied to.  You'll find it.  Then you can explain exactly what you think 'non-sequitor' means.)
 

Pardon my short attention span.

"Stop trying to dictate" is a non sequitur (note the correct spelling) vis a vis "Spare us".

The writer of the latter can't dictate anything, as demonstrated by Bill's abject refusal to play this POS less.


 keller1 wrote:


You are going to have to direct me to where I said "Please spare us."

I have lost the thread.
 
Where did I say that *you* wrote that?  (Go back and read your first post that I replied to.  You'll find it.  Then you can explain exactly what you think 'non-sequitor' means.)


 dwhayslett wrote:

So, um, what exactly do you think "Please spare us." means, then?  (And for the record, I said *trying* to dictate.)
 

You are going to have to direct me to where I said "Please spare us."

I have lost the thread.
Eight Claws Up
 keller1 wrote:


So, um, I did.

Nobody's dictating anything.

Like I said, a non sequitur.
 
So, um, what exactly do you think "Please spare us." means, then?  (And for the record, I said *trying* to dictate.)


 dwhayslett wrote:

Maybe you ought to go read the comment to which you were giving ten thumbs up.

 

So, um, I did.

Nobody's dictating anything.

Like I said, a non sequitur.
The city sunset over me...
 keller1 wrote:


Non sequitur.
 
Maybe you ought to go read the comment to which you were giving ten thumbs up.

This album is amazing overall and creepily a foreshadow of the 9/11 tragedy in NYC.  PJ decided to live in NYC for a year as inspiration which turned into this album.  Several of the songs are hauntingly reflective of what happened not too long after the album came out with 9/11!  Like what you ask?  Like this tune, Kamikaze, Good Fortune, We Float, Whores Hustle & Hustlers Whore, among others - the song titles speak for themselves, but try listening to this album through with 9/11 in your mind and you'll be blown away.  I couldn't stop playing it the day it all happened.  Really helped me work through the shock at the time.....
God, I wondered why I automatically went to mute - Thom Misery Yorke is in it. Bleah and double bleah
 rdo wrote:


You are wrong there keller1, those thumbs up/down always go thumbs up for the idiot cheerleaders.   Anything insightful or critical gets thumbs down.  We don't want that. 
 

The use of the word "idiot" in this post is highly ironic given the sweeping generalizations made.

Thom Yorke inspired but she is also in the same line than he is!
I like the blend of these two voices.
Moody & a bit melancholic, I like it..

 keller1 wrote:


Memo to Bill G: yer comments pages need a "thumbs up" function.

Ten of them for this comment.
 

You are wrong there keller1, those thumbs up/down always go thumbs up for the idiot cheerleaders.   Anything insightful or critical gets thumbs down.  We don't want that. 
v nice
 
Oh yes, I always sing (quite poorly) along with this one!{#Cheers}
good stuff

I like it a lot. . . 
 dwhayslett wrote:

Balanced by ten down from over here.  Stop trying to dictate what the rest of us get to listen to.  (And I don't really care for Thom Yorke's voice that much, in general.)

 

Non sequitur.
Def like PJ much better by herself. I still plan on buying this disc.
Thom Yorke - love his voice.  PJ is pretty cool too.  It's nice to hear Thom w/o all the tkitkatikitatikita computer drums!
 keller1 wrote:


Memo to Bill G: yer comments pages need a "thumbs up" function.

Ten of them for this comment.
 
Balanced by ten down from over here.  Stop trying to dictate what the rest of us get to listen to.  (And I don't really care for Thom Yorke's voice that much, in general.)

 somecallmejohn wrote:
It's hard to imagine a voice more devoid of anything positive or passionate than Thom Yorke's.  Please spare us.
 
Ditto. A year and a half later & I still think he's a whiny prick. 
 vandal wrote:

OMG - one of the funniest posts ever!  I totally disagree, but I love you Fred.  (spiritual love, mind you)

{#Notworthy}
 
I second that. Love the Nottingham Jury!