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Joseph Arthur — In The Sun
Album: Come To Where I'm From
Avg rating:
5.8

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Total ratings: 1492









Released: 2000
Length: 5:31
Plays (last 30 days): 2
I picture you in the sun wondering what went wrong
And falling down on your knees asking for sympathy
And being caught in between all you wish for and all you seen
And trying to find anything you can feel that you can believe in

May God's love be with you
Always
May God's love be with you

I know I would apologize if I could see your eyes
'Cause when you showed me myself I became someone else
But I was caught in between all you wish for and all you need
I picture you fast asleep
A nightmare comes
You can't keep awake

May God's love be with you
Always
May God's love be with you

'Cause if I find
If I find my own way
How much will I find
If I find
If I find my own way
How much will I find
You

I don't know anymore
What it's for
I'm not even sure
If there is anyone who is in the sun
Will you help me to understand
'Cause I been caught in between all I wish for and all I need
Maybe you're not even sure what it's for
Any more than me

May God's love be with you
Always
May God's love be with you
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Such a melodyman !!!
Great song Billy!

Why's the rating like that?
I thought it was a cover of Poker Face at the beginning. But the song is older and just parts of it are (surprisingly) similar.
 AhhtheMusic wrote:


That is what makes him so interesting.  In concert he will have some of his loop music playing while he "does his art" for us to watch, and then we can buy it later as a memory.  I loved him when I saw him with my buddy at the Soiled Dove in Denver 4 years ago.  In the small venue you can truly connect with him and his music.  After the show was over he was so kind and tried to see as many people who were still there to thank us for coming.  He wanted to talk and he showed his spirit as a true human and artist.  He is not trying to get rich.  He is connecting..us.all.  

I would have never known about him had it not been for RP.  !!!  Kisses again to RP.  The love of my life.  
 
Based on your positive review of this artist, I've doubled my 3 rating to a 6....and thanks for giving some perspective to Mr. Arthur.....Long Live RP!!
Thanks RP... I love this song!! Emmanuel from France
Dreadful lazy affectation.  PSD for this one.  My ears aren't happy at all.
BRING BACK RADIO PARADISE ROCK STATION~!!!!

p.s.
the is sucko barrrrrrrfo~!
You're my hero!
Took the words right out of my head!



 
dragon1952 wrote:
May God's love get the phlegm out of your throat :^ /
 

 On_The_Beach wrote:
God's love didn't do much for the cover art.  ; )
 

That is what makes him so interesting.  In concert he will have some of his loop music playing while he "does his art" for us to watch, and then we can buy it later as a memory.  I loved him when I saw him with my buddy at the Soiled Dove in Denver 4 years ago.  In the small venue you can truly connect with him and his music.  After the show was over he was so kind and tried to see as many people who were still there to thank us for coming.  He wanted to talk and he showed his spirit as a true human and artist.  He is not trying to get rich.  He is connecting..us.all.  

I would have never known about him had it not been for RP.  !!!  Kisses again to RP.  The love of my life.  
God's love didn't do much for the cover art.  ; )
Over the years, have seen Joseph Arthur twice in concert--that's the way to see him, with his distortion and loop pedals and interesting songs...
Made me stop and listen for a moment...
I sat downest and prefer not to fight around. I dont believe war in paradise.
oh wow! I haven't heard this song in YEARS - took me back.
Gabriel added a lot to this song with his cover - it has a sweetness that this doesn't quite get to. Still a great song - I always assumed it was Peter's. 
affected
Ironically, Letterman loved this guy. Different time though. Seen him live and he’s wonderful.
Always assumed this was David Pirner and/or Soul Asylum.   Not much for religious songs myself, but I always heard this one as more of a colloquial use the expression.
Truly great song, thanks again RP! It's kinda heartwrenching for today's party, but luvin it all the same...
          'Cause when you showed me myself I became someone else
           But I was caught in between all you wish for and all you need
Always
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 CHuLoYo wrote:
I don't believe in God but I like this song. 
 
I also don’t believe in God but I have no problem with those who do (as long as they don’t impose their beliefs on others). I’m also not going to discriminate against a song because it has a religious slant..
Just an awful "SONG" , maybe those who like it are used to bad songs from church?
 vinylbob wrote:
Have noticed a troubling trend that many RP listeners are uncomfortable with any mention of God.  I like the song and the message.  

 
There are other people who ust must see to the business of making one practice their religion.  Quite off-putting.  I too, like this song.
May God's love get the phlegm out of your throat :^ /
 old_shep wrote:
Sounds like Taylor Swift with a hangover.

 
Her voice is actually a little more hoarse when she's got a hangover, but at least she still makes pretty good corned beef hash and coffee.
Religious crappy song, put it on the jesus stations
Sounds like Taylor Swift with a hangover.
 kimschoice wrote:
I know we are supposed to comment on the music....but this art work freaks me out.  O.K. song is good.  

 
You have a point about the artwork. Thanks for making me take a closer look at the artwork. It is a little disturbing, and definitely worthy of attention.

The song sounds worthy of a few more listens too.


I'm sure it made the rounds onto every TV show at the time, but it always reminds me of Scrubs. 
I know we are supposed to comment on the music....but this art work freaks me out.  O.K. song is good.  
I love Donna De Lory's version of this song; this one, not so much!

The song sung by Peter is much more palatable, for me, than this one. I can feel the, "I wish you well" in Gabriel's art. 

 

So many people, here, site the religious aspects of this conversation as being the root of contention.  For me, it is personal and not associated with the corner "Faith me out of all trouble and responsibility" societies.

 

When the wish for non-existent love from a non-existent god is issued, all I can think of is the complete lack of integrity it takes to say it.  If there is an ass-hat that created us "Smart enough to destroy the world, and stupid enough to let it happen", I'd much rather raise the finger to the sadistic psychopath.   Do you think psychopaths respect cowardice.

 

If I ever meet the bitch, if it is sincere, if it confesses it's transgressions, if it professes not to repeat them and if it asks for forgiveness.... 

Nahh,  never trust a psychopath, it is incapable of sincerity.


I follow the evidence, so of course I don't believe in God, but I do like religious songs. For example, I love Joan Osborne's "One of Us", but this song is just poorly constructed , and poorly executed. A dirge.
 vinylbob wrote:
Have noticed a troubling trend that many RP listeners are uncomfortable with any mention of God.  I like the song and the message.  

 
I don't believe in God but I like this song. 
Have noticed a troubling trend that many RP listeners are uncomfortable with any mention of God.  I like the song and the message.  
Beautiful song!  Thanks for playing it.  Love the Michael Stipe  version (without Coldplay singer) too.
Sounds like a TV car commercial.
 ltbluesoda wrote:
this song is so bad that I went to go rate it a "1" and realized I had done it once already! Almost is bad as "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen where they say the same word 21 times in a row to end the song. WTF? Who enjoys that shit?

 
If you're going to criticise a song by drawing similarities to another, maybe don't choose one of the most well-loved songs of all time? Just a tip.
what a bad song ..just bad  even Gods love can't save this pile of drivel

One of the few songs that I hit PSD on.  I'm not anti-religious, I just really don't dig this at all.

(I got Depeche Mode - Halo, excellent sidetrack!)
Thanks for playing this Bill.  I needed this today.  {#Roflol}
 ScottishWillie wrote:
 ltbluesoda wrote:
this song is so bad that I went to go rate it a "1" and realized I had done it once already! Almost is bad as "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen where they say the same word 21 times in a row to end the song. WTF? Who enjoys that shit?

Me.

  Me too!

Love this song.
......."the minority report"
 
 ltbluesoda wrote:
this song is so bad that I went to go rate it a "1" and realized I had done it once already! Almost is bad as "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen where they say the same word 21 times in a row to end the song. WTF? Who enjoys that shit?

Me.

Yuch, a 2.  Not bothered by the message like some, I just really don't dig this song.
 
I'm not a God music guy, but this song gives me great memories of Scrubs so it gets a good rating.
 pixeli wrote:
Let the church stay in the church ... this song does touch
 Telling church where to be is one thing. But as for where God belongs, where is God and where is not God? 

For that matter, where is Yoda?  (Just kidding) 
I agree that the song does touch.
 pixeli wrote:
Let the church stay in the church ... this song does touch
 
What does that mean, pixeli?
this song is so bad that I went to go rate it a "1" and realized I had done it once already! Almost is bad as "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen where they say the same word 21 times in a row to end the song. WTF? Who enjoys that shit?
Let the church stay in the church ... this song does touch
Next time this song comes on, I'm hitting "mute".
Horrid voice. RP is for many different tastes, but this is a pitifully awful combination of voice and lyrics.
Good Lord! Is he singing with rocks in his mouth? 
many times I'll hear something on RP and stop what I'm doing because I love what I'm hearing. THIS WAS NOT ONE OF THE TIMES. I had to look and see if a frickin CHRISTIAN ROCK station took over my favorite station. That was terrible!!!!!
painful to listen to.. not in the emotional way
I can see that others disagree, but I quite like this song. I went to look up the Coldplay/Stipe cover and that seemed sort of devoid of emotion to me.
So sick of these guys (and girls sometimes) who love to sing meanwhile they just can't do it and have nothing new to say... 1 with no doubt.
This is funny…I just sent my monthly donation and this came on, which I'd earlier rated a 7 (must have been having an exceptional day) but today if I never heard it again that would be fine. Just hope B&R don't correlate donations with what's up ("Oh, I see Carl really likes this!"—not).
Worst song I have heard all month - utter crap
 asusinskas wrote:
 It is a shame that we can tolerate free speech of any sort, as long as it doesn't mention God.  Whether you believe in God or not, you are always free to accept or ignore the message, the song, the lyrics or what have you.


Aren't the commenters just exercising their free speech to dislike the song? Or is it just allowable free speech when they agree with you? 

If someone can make reference to a god in a song and not have the song be a banal annoyance they're welcome to try. This guy doesn't manage it. To paraphrase Hank Hill, he's not making his god better, he's just making music worse.
 
hate this. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmeQKtBPShk

love that.

 
Definitely not a good song.  Don't like his voice or the lyrics.  He sounds like a wuss.
I don't normally post comments but I really enjoy perusing them.  Usually the comments are reasonably open minded and often downright entertaining.  When God is mentioned however, the comments seem to turn the other way.  It is a shame that we can tolerate free speech of any sort, as long as it doesn't mention God.  Whether you believe in God or not, you are always free to accept or ignore the message, the song, the lyrics or what have you.

For myself, I really like this song and appreciate the fact that Joseph Arthur isn't afraid of referring to "God" in his music. 
 drife wrote:
Sorry, like the cover by Coldplay and Stipe better.
 


Oh, yes! Love that version!
This is really awful. 2 —> 1
Dude, do something about that sore throat.
Please. 
 Dangerpussy wrote:
Not into the xtian rock, not even a little. Bleh
 

I don't believe X was mentioned in the lyrics. Perhaps he was signing about Thor. 
Great song! 8 ->9{#Clap}
 drife wrote:
Sorry, like the cover by Coldplay and Stipe better.
 

Oh no you don't, just stop it.
figures...
 
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marc1980 wrote:

Funny I was thinking the same.

 

 Rafter101 wrote:
Is this still Radio Paradise?  Sounds like Radio Purgatory to me, having to endure this song. Seriously—I can hear this on any pop station.
 
Funny I was thinking the same.

This guy is amazing. Saw him at Fletcher's in B'more. He had so many different playbacks going it sounded like half a dozen musicians - but it was only him.
I was also thrown off by the "Christian Rock" misnomer.
bleck
Sorry, like the cover by Coldplay and Stipe better.
Is this still Radio Paradise?  Sounds like Radio Purgatory to me, having to endure this song. Seriously—I can hear this on any pop station.
Peter Gabriel performed this Joseph Arthur song for the 1997 Princess Diana tribute album, three years before Arthur's own version was released on this album. Joseph Arthur was one of many artists "discovered" by Gabriel for his label. And BTW, not Christian Rock, despite what many have written. Just one guy's emotional/spiritual description of how he's feeling. Not at all meant to be preaching to anyone. If you listen to it knowing that, it's really quite touching. I understand how the mere mention of G-d sets some people off. No worries. There are a lot of other songs out there to listen to!
 johnsf wrote:
The singing and the repetition is difficult to listen to. This is a song where I'll turn the volume down all the way and take a 5 minute break until it's over.
 

It's not bad but would benefit by being at least 2 minutes shorter.
There are some songs, mercifully few, which you just know are going to be a snorefest from the moment the singer starts droning, and this is surely one of them. Aural Mogadon in a pure form. 3 from the narcoleptic Nottingham jury {#Sleep}
 jules44 wrote:
Thought it was Pete Yorn at first....nice!
 

Believe me, that is always a good thing! I have always loved this song!{#Hearteyes}
Thought it was Pete Yorn at first....nice!
Not into the xtian rock, not even a little. Bleh
The singing and the repetition is difficult to listen to. This is a song where I'll turn the volume down all the way and take a 5 minute break until it's over.
I really like this song in a totally nonreligious way. {#Mrgreen}
This is one of those songs that is so deeply personal to me, and I love hearing it {#High-five} here but I don't want to look at anyone's comments {#Eyes} lest they take it out of its sacred realm and smear profanity all over it.  Thanks for playing it.{#Roflol}
 treehugger wrote:


May Dog's love be with you. 
 
That's good enough for me!

Great pic. Thanks.


If I find my own way
How much will I find?

 treehugger wrote:


May Dog's love be with you. 
 
always!
I bought "Big City Secrets" several years ago, and used to listen to it almost everyday. Then I moved and didn't have much time for music for a long time. Then a friend of mine told me about Radioparadise "Listener supported" with no ads, and since then I am an avid listener because of such surprises. I love this song and I am glad that brings me back to an artist I like so much. Thank you Bill and Rebecca, I wish you long life.
 sdn wrote:
Is the singer drunk?
 
I think it was from going through nothing but religious debate before I came across this comment, but you still owe me a new keyboard.

 treehugger wrote:


May Dog's love be with you. 
 
LOL!! {#Roflol}
 RabbitEars wrote:
who wrote this?  i have a beautiful boot version by peter gabriel.  this, not so good.
 
joseph arthur

 RabbitEars wrote:
who wrote this?  i have a beautiful boot version by peter gabriel.  this, not so good.
 
Agree!  I like the Gabriel and Micheal Stipe versions better.

this song is featured in the movie "saved", with Macaulay Kulkin, Mandy Moore... its actually a pretty awesome movie. so its kind of fun to hear to be reminded of it. that said, if it weren't for the movie, my feelings would be lukewarm....
 treehugger wrote:


May Dog's love be with you. 
 

Awwwww. That's lovely - both the dog and the feeling the photo gives me.


May Dog's love be with you. 

ENOUGH!


He is just annoying.
agreed
 
crockydile wrote:
His moaning in the chorus is painful. {#Headache}
 


who wrote this?  i have a beautiful boot version by peter gabriel.  this, not so good.
 aaronm wrote:

As far as I know, Joseph Arthur isn't even religious.
 
Further research suggests that he is, but my points still stand.


 TJS wrote:
STOP preaching at me!
 
Seriously?  This is in no way preaching.

As far as I know, Joseph Arthur isn't even religious.  This song *barely* makes reference to religion at all.  It simply repeats the (notably generic) blessing, "May God's love be with you."  I think that if this sets off your religious-offense-ometer, it's a good deal too sensitive.

The rest of the song *can* be interpreted as religious, I suppose, but that's what it requires — an interpretation.  My understanding of the rest of the lyrics is that they address another person rather than a deity of any kind. 

That said, even if you could prove that this song was about religion — so what?  Plenty of fantastic music has been inspired by religion, but that is not a priori a reason to dislike it.  The song is most definitely not "preaching at you;" it doesn't ask you to repent of your sins, or to find Jesus, or to believe/acknowledge that he is in control, or any of the other things that you'll find in your typical lineup of Christian music dreck.  It simply wishes something that is about a half-step removed from "good luck" and asks nothing in return.

As for the song itself, I like it.  I wouldn't say I love it.  {#Smile}
Nice!
 TJS wrote:
STOP preaching at me!
 
Blessing != preaching dude

His moaning in the chorus is painful. {#Headache}

CAn someone repossess his vocal chords?
Is the singer drunk?
 TJS wrote:
STOP preaching at me!
 
You're from Denver - aren't you used to it already...?

 TJS wrote:
STOP preaching at me!
 
A-freakin'-men.  Enough, already.

 k_trout wrote:
Kurt Vonnegut, writer of classics of the American counterculture including Cat's Cradle and Slaughterhouse Five, had this to say not too long before his death in April 2007:
"My epitaph should be—and I am honorary president of the American Humanist Association—"The only proof he needed of the existence of god was music." It's meant a tremendous amount to me. I'm grateful, I'm really grateful for what music has done for me. Why it works, I can't imagine."
rock on
{#Cowboy}
 

Hey Kilgore,

Kurt also was big on the extended family that the church offers.

As for this song, I kinda like it.
The bellowing is most annoying.{#Headache}
 TJS wrote:
STOP preaching at me!
 

some of us need it   {#Arrow} 9

 Sloggydog wrote:
I'm a complete athiest but i also like a good sound.  This in my view is only an average song anyway but in the past religion has brought us some amazing music - take Handel's Messiah or some of Cat Stevens stuff and even now his stuff as Yusuf is cool and influenced by yet another religion.  I don't think you can switch off to music because they happen to have insane views about how they can live forever but that said as soon as they start on about any other nonsense like their outrageous views on sexuality, birth control, and who knows how many other crazy things they justify in the name of religion then that is the time to say toodle pip to the christians.
 
I'll second that, apart from the Cat Steven's stuff as I always reckoned he was rank even pre-conversion. God botherers have produced some pretty tasty music over the centuries, and continue to do so - I'm a big fan of Lisa Gerrard and Dead Can Dance, and she's a pretty dedicated Catholic these days. So sing away, Godsquadders, but keep the old agitprop under wraps, eh?

This number is dullsville, though. May god make the guy deliver a decent tune...

STOP preaching at me!
Absolutely love this tune

Peace 
"May God's love be with you."

Oh yes, what an awful, preachy, pretentious, condescending message.~

Sounds like Our Lady Peace
I'm a complete athiest but i also like a good sound.  This in my view is only an average song anyway but in the past religion has brought us some amazing music - take Handel's Messiah or some of Cat Stevens stuff and even now his stuff as Yusuf is cool and influenced by yet another religion.  I don't think you can switch off to music because they happen to have insane views about how they can live forever but that said as soon as they start on about any other nonsense like their outrageous views on sexuality, birth control, and who knows how many other crazy things they justify in the name of religion then that is the time to say toodle pip to the christians.
 gofishbish wrote:
had the vol down so just listening and working and noticed, "hey, this sounds like Christian music..."  Then I heard the chorus "..God's love.." and thought, "heyyy, this IS a Christian song!"  Which is awesome because I'm a Christian and God and Christ are barred from most other popular artistic and/or intellectual quarters.  Bill you never cease to amaze me.

That being said, the guy's voice was annoying.

And to the person who's blood pressure goes up when he hears to Christian music, I used to be like that.  It actually made me angry.  Two of my main thoughts/feelings were: "trying to sneak that sh__ in on me" and "friggin' religion induced wool-over-their-eyes people don't have a clue."  Then I started to attend church on relatively regular basis (for my young family) and over time realized:  Life is not a random, meaningless tragedy.  And while it makes absolutely no logical sense (born of a virgin? yeah, right), the more I followed Christ, the better my life was by 10 fold.  And when I didn't, the worse - also 10 fold.  It's weird, wonderful and amazing.  I hope you find this too someday.

 

I normally avoid Chirstian music like the plague. Not that I am an athiest or anything but it never was a big part of my life and I feel very complete without going to church. If there is a God, I guess we'll settle up on the other side.

Most, not all, Christian music is very pretentious, preachy and boring to me. This song isn't too bad, however. It's got a little bit of an edge.


Not a fan of this one.  Micheal Stipe done a really good version with Coldplay.
 gofishbish wrote:
snip snip -  Which is awesome because I'm a Christian and God and Christ are barred from most other popular artistic and/or intellectual quarters.  Bill you never cease to amaze me.
 
Gosh, I didn't realise the authorities banned religious music in teh US (or is that just Christian music is banned?).  I'm surprised it hasn't been taken through the courts there.
snip snip snip - And while it makes absolutely no logical sense (born of a virgin? yeah, right), the more I followed Christ, the better my life was by 10 fold. And when I didn't, the worse - also 10 fold. It's weird, wonderful and amazing. I hope you find this too someday.

I have found that way, and am so glad that you acknowledge that it makes no logical sense, and so will join me and follow the true path of Hinduism instead?