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U2 — So Cruel
Album: Achtung Baby
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Released: 1991
Length: 5:43
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We crossed the line
Who pushed who over?
It doesn't matter to you
It matters to me

We're cut adrift
But still floating
I'm only hanging on
To watch you go down, my love

I disappeared in you
You disappeared from me
I gave you everything you ever wanted
It wasn't what you wanted

The men who love you, you hate the most
They pass right through you like a ghost
They look for you, but your spirit is in the air
Baby, you're nowhere

Oh love
You say in love there are no rules
Oh love
Sweetheart
You're so cruel

Desperation is a tender trap
It gets you every time
You put your lips to her lips
To stop the lie

Her skin is pale like God's only dove
Screams like an angel for your love
Then she makes you watch her from above
And you need her like a drug

Oh love
You say in love there are no rules
Oh love
Sweetheart
You're so cruel

She wears my love like a see through dress
Her lips say one thing
Her movements, something else
Oh love, like a screaming flower
Love
Dying every hour

And you don't know if it's fear or desire
Danger, the drug that takes you higher
Head of heaven
Fingers in the mire

Her heart is racing, you can't keep up
The night is bleeding like a cut
Between the horses of love and lust we are trampled
Underfoot

Oh love
You say in love there are no rules
Oh love
Sweetheart
You're so cruel

Oh love
To stay with you, I'd be a fool
Oh, sweetheart
You're so cruel
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SOMEONE please shut this whinny bitch up
Morrisey he is not
18 years ago, when this came out, I thought U2 was washed up and no longer relevant.  I'd been listening since they hit the US airwaves in the early 80's.  And then this album blew my mind, a curve ball from the group, and a great achievement IMO
This tune is why U2 is great, yet I've never heard it on FM radio. Thank you, RP.
 buddy wrote:

Great observations and here's my two cents.....

It's definitely a syndrome that the very bands that it was "cool" to be a fan of when they were new and up coming are labeled "sellouts" when the rest of the world recognizes their talent and they become megastars. "They were cool when they first started and all us core fans stood by them.  Too bad they sold out to become superstar!"  The Who understood this and even predicted it with an early album called "The Who Sell Out" - only their third studio album - as did Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention with "We Only In It For The Money" - their fourth album.

Rubbish.

Also, for a band to last even 10 years (think The Beatles), let alone decades, and still be relevant, let alone innovative, is exceedingly rare. I'm old enough to remember The Beatles when they transitioned from being a British pop band to a world-wide phenomenon.  Starting with Rubber Soul to Revolver to Sgt. Peppers to Magical Mystery Tour to The White Album etc, each new album took their experimentation, song writing skills, and artistry to a new level.  Younger fans may not know that it was controversial at the time, as the band challenged it's fans to become part of the growth and open our minds to accept the new level of their new music.  That happened with The Who, Bob Dylan, The Grateful Dead, REM, Nirvana, and yeah, U2.

Joshua Tree blew everyone away.  Achtung Baby took some faith to get with fully.  Some later albums that I thought didn't really measure up later came to speak to me....once I caught up.  Innocence was a little like that for me, but I saw the Innocence Tour at Madison Square Garden (their final North American performance, night 8 in NYC) and then I understood what they were reaching for.

Great artists are going to follow their art, push their limits, innovate, and experiment.  Some times the experiment doesn't quite work out, but they keep on going.  Hang in there, open your mind, don't judge what's coming by what come before. It's worth the ride.
 
 

So much talk for something that could be said in a few sentences - Bono IS a sellout, musically, personally, however you put it. The biggest heights that man reached was in his ego. He doesn't need heels for that, that's for sure.

U2 music was relevant up to Zooropa. After POP they simply lost it. And even POP was composed mostly of Zooropa leftovers.

And this song rocks btw.
This whole album... so good... so so good.  
Why are my eyes getting heavy? My body feels leaden. Try as I might I can't supress a yawn.
Ah, that's why - U2.
Or is that U2?
Never heard this before. Thanks, RP. 
I think. 
He's whining and crying in his Guinness. 
Isn't U2 a "rock" band? 
Where the streets go lame. 
 AhhtheMusic wrote:

Right on Buddy.  So well stated!  Yes to all.

 
I agree with much of what Buddy wrote but to me U2 stopped innovating after "All That You Can't Leave Behind." I didn't like a single song from "Songs of Innocence." That whole album felt like they were laboring so hard to say Something Important but had no idea what that Something was. I loved U2 from the first time I heard their first album but I think they ran out of gas years ago. 
 buddy wrote:

Great observations and here's my two cents.....

It's definitely a syndrome that the very bands that it was "cool" to be a fan of when they were new and up coming are labeled "sellouts" when the rest of the world recognizes their talent and they become megastars. "They were cool when they first started and all us core fans stood by them.  Too bad they sold out to become superstar!"  The Who understood this and even predicted it with an early album called "The Who Sell Out" - only their third studio album - as did Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention with "We Only In It For The Money" - their fourth album.

Rubbish.

Also, for a band to last even 10 years (think The Beatles), let alone decades, and still be relevant, let alone innovative, is exceedingly rare. I'm old enough to remember The Beatles when they transitioned from being a British pop band to a world-wide phenomenon.  Starting with Rubber Soul to Revolver to Sgt. Peppers to Magical Mystery Tour to The White Album etc, each new album took their experimentation, song writing skills, and artistry to a new level.  Younger fans may not know that it was controversial at the time, as the band challenged it's fans to become part of the growth and open our minds to accept the new level of their new music.  That happened with The Who, Bob Dylan, The Grateful Dead, REM, Nirvana, and yeah, U2.

Joshua Tree blew everyone away.  Achtung Baby took some faith to get with fully.  Some later albums that I thought didn't really measure up later came to speak to me....once I caught up.  Innocence was a little like that for me, but I saw the Innocence Tour at Madison Square Garden (their final North American performance, night 8 in NYC) and then I understood what they were reaching for.

Great artists are going to follow their art, push their limits, innovate, and experiment.  Some times the experiment doesn't quite work out, but they keep on going.  Hang in there, open your mind, don't judge what's coming by what come before. It's worth the ride.
 

 

Look what Miles Davis did.  He just left everybody behind on his journey.  Dude never stopped on his galactic arc.
 buddy wrote:

Great observations and here's my two cents.....

It's definitely a syndrome that the very bands that it was "cool" to be a fan of when they were new and up coming are labeled "sellouts" when the rest of the world recognizes their talent and they become megastars. "They were cool when they first started and all us core fans stood by them.  Too bad they sold out to become superstar!"  The Who understood this and even predicted it with an early album called "The Who Sell Out" - only their third studio album - as did Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention with "We Only In It For The Money" - their fourth album.

Rubbish.

Also, for a band to last even 10 years (think The Beatles), let alone decades, and still be relevant, let alone innovative, is exceedingly rare. I'm old enough to remember The Beatles when they transitioned from being a British pop band to a world-wide phenomenon.  Starting with Rubber Soul to Revolver to Sgt. Peppers to Magical Mystery Tour to The White Album etc, each new album took their experimentation, song writing skills, and artistry to a new level.  Younger fans may not know that it was controversial at the time, as the band challenged it's fans to become part of the growth and open our minds to accept the new level of their new music.  That happened with The Who, Bob Dylan, The Grateful Dead, REM, Nirvana, and yeah, U2.

Joshua Tree blew everyone away.  Achtung Baby took some faith to get with fully.  Some later albums that I thought didn't really measure up later came to speak to me....once I caught up.  Innocence was a little like that for me, but I saw the Innocence Tour at Madison Square Garden (their final North American performance, night 8 in NYC) and then I understood what they were reaching for.

Great artists are going to follow their art, push their limits, innovate, and experiment.  Some times the experiment doesn't quite work out, but they keep on going.  Hang in there, open your mind, don't judge what's coming by what come before. It's worth the ride.
 

 
Right on Buddy.  So well stated!  Yes to all.
Long winded and boring
 alanb wrote:

Why does everyone say they've "gone downhill" or whatever?

I would be happy to have written just one song this good. They wrote a few songs this good, some even better.

How about you folks? You ever wrote something that would get this high of a score on RP?



 
Great observations and here's my two cents.....

It's definitely a syndrome that the very bands that it was "cool" to be a fan of when they were new and up coming are labeled "sellouts" when the rest of the world recognizes their talent and they become megastars. "They were cool when they first started and all us core fans stood by them.  Too bad they sold out to become superstar!"  The Who understood this and even predicted it with an early album called "The Who Sell Out" - only their third studio album - as did Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention with "We Only In It For The Money" - their fourth album.

Rubbish.

Also, for a band to last even 10 years (think The Beatles), let alone decades, and still be relevant, let alone innovative, is exceedingly rare. I'm old enough to remember The Beatles when they transitioned from being a British pop band to a world-wide phenomenon.  Starting with Rubber Soul to Revolver to Sgt. Peppers to Magical Mystery Tour to The White Album etc, each new album took their experimentation, song writing skills, and artistry to a new level.  Younger fans may not know that it was controversial at the time, as the band challenged it's fans to become part of the growth and open our minds to accept the new level of their new music.  That happened with The Who, Bob Dylan, The Grateful Dead, REM, Nirvana, and yeah, U2.

Joshua Tree blew everyone away.  Achtung Baby took some faith to get with fully.  Some later albums that I thought didn't really measure up later came to speak to me....once I caught up.  Innocence was a little like that for me, but I saw the Innocence Tour at Madison Square Garden (their final North American performance, night 8 in NYC) and then I understood what they were reaching for.

Great artists are going to follow their art, push their limits, innovate, and experiment.  Some times the experiment doesn't quite work out, but they keep on going.  Hang in there, open your mind, don't judge what's coming by what come before. It's worth the ride.
 
Just re-listened to this album the other day.

Remembered why U2 always made my list of the Top 5 artists until being supplanted by others in the 2000s.

Brilliant song on a truly great album. 10 

Why does everyone say they've "gone downhill" or whatever?

I would be happy to have written just one song this good. They wrote a few songs this good, some even better.

How about you folks? You ever wrote something that would get this high of a score on RP?


 Hoosfoos wrote:
What has happened to this band?

 
Fell into the waters of mediocrity after Zooropa. Out of fresh ideas AND feeding Bono's insanely huge hyper mega ego.
 Hoosfoos wrote:
What has happened to this band?

 
Spending all their MONEY!
 Hoosfoos wrote:
What has happened to this band?

 
They never really made it. Too mediocre.
great song and great album.

 
What has happened to this band?
 MrsTom wrote:
You see I "don't like U2 or Bono" but I am really enjoying listening to this. So maybe I should stop making these sweeping generalisations when I obviously don't even know what I like myself. I'm off to Spotify to listen to this album........
 
Way to go MrsTom!  I hope you enjoyed Achtung Baby on Spotify.  It's one of their best.
9------>10
Between the horses of love and lust we are trampled
Underfoot
Oh love
You say in love there are no rules.

Downline someone else posted these wonderful lines from the song.  Classic.

You see I "don't like U2 or Bono" but I am really enjoying listening to this. So maybe I should stop making these sweeping generalisations when I obviously don't even know what I like myself. I'm off to Spotify to listen to this album........
C'mon, one of the best U2 songs!!
 ScottN wrote:
Otoh, do you know Bono personally?  Do you know what he actually does with his time and money?  Or are you simply letting your emotions go off whatever "news" source you use and then conclude he is "a joke".   When you do half as much for the world, for other people, whether publicized or not, come back and tell us about it. Otherwise stfu.

What ScottN said.
 ScottN wrote:
 
Wonderful song off one of their better albums.

Otoh, do you know Bono personally?  Do you know what he actually does with his time and money?  Or are you simply letting your emotions go off whatever "news" source you use and then conclude he is "a joke".   When you do half as much for the world, for other people, whether publicized or not, come back and tell us about it. Otherwise stfu.

 
Bravo!
 rdo wrote:
Nah.  Not true.  He is the one obsessed with stardom.  His causes are dubious.  He is a shameless self promoter.  Note:  he is a one of a kind.  I complain of no one else in the Rock world (or celebrity world) for the same reasons.  He is a joke.  
Wonderful song off one of their better albums.

Otoh, do you know Bono personally?  Do you know what he actually does with his time and money?  Or are you simply letting your emotions go off whatever "news" source you use and then conclude he is "a joke".   When you do half as much for the world, for other people, whether publicized or not, come back and tell us about it. Otherwise stfu.
 Jelani wrote:
Boy, this is an irritating song.

 
Um...yep.
Achtung Bono

Everybody in my church loves this song...
 
 lemmoth wrote:


Horeshit.  When you have a global public spotlight on you because of the media's obsession with stardom, why not use that platform to promote some good in the world.  What - you have to wait until you get 100% agreement from humanity that what you think is a good cause, is a good cause.  Crap.  God bless Bono and all the good works he tries to do.

And the band's new millennium albums each have 4 or 5 tracks that stack up with their early best. So slog off all ye haters.

 

Nah.  Not true.  He is the one obsessed with stardom.  His causes are dubious.  He is a shameless self promoter.  Note:  he is a one of a kind.  I complain of no one else in the Rock world (or celebrity world) for the same reasons.  He is a joke. 
Boy, this is an irritating song.
This is their last album that as a whole was pretty damn good. Hit and miss from here.


Everybody in my hotel room loves this song...

 
"Between the horses of love and lust
we are trampled . . . under foot."

I just love that line.


 lemmoth wrote:


Horeshit.  When you have a global public spotlight on you because of the media's obsession with stardom, why not use that platform to promote some good in the world.  What - you have to wait until you get 100% agreement from humanity that what you think is a good cause, is a good cause.  Crap.  God bless Bono and all the good works he tries to do.

And the band's new millennium albums each have 4 or 5 tracks that stack up with their early best. So slog off all ye haters.

 

the real issue with the haters here is simple...

ABJECT ENVY

period.
 rdo wrote:
 
If he wanted to Bono could just donate to good causes like the rest of us, but watching him strut around like a world savior gives me a queasy feeling. 
 

Horeshit.  When you have a global public spotlight on you because of the media's obsession with stardom, why not use that platform to promote some good in the world.  What - you have to wait until you get 100% agreement from humanity that what you think is a good cause, is a good cause.  Crap.  God bless Bono and all the good works he tries to do.

And the band's new millennium albums each have 4 or 5 tracks that stack up with their early best. So slog off all ye haters.

This album marked U2's shift into pessimism and bitterness.  This song perfectly reflects that.
This album is 20 years old yet it still sounds great after all these years. One of the albums I'll take with me to a deserted isle.
 Shimmer wrote:
Man, am I out of step with the comments on this thread: I like Bono fine as a person, but I don't think much of this song.
 
Frankly, I don't know the man at all.  Never had a conversation with him or shared a beer.  Just guessing, but I bet nobody on this site has.  So, how can any of us say whether he's a good man?  Do you judge someone by their publicity?  Their shouted words to an arena full of fans?  What one reads (gasp) in the media?

Sorry to be such a downer this evening .... and, perhaps, "So Cruel."

Wow, my least favorite song from one of their best albums. Bummer.
 black321 wrote:

no one ever said he wasnt a capitalist...hell, he even started a private equity firm (albeit, not successful).  He's a ham, and a bit narcissistic, but not a hypocrite. 
 
He owns 1.5% or over 1 billion dollars from Facebook
https://www.google.com/search?q=bono+facebook+investment 

 DeemerDave wrote:


What a load of horse manure. Just another hater of successful people. You deserve to live in that socialist hell-hole.
 

We'd all be a lot better off if Bono just stuck to what he does well - music.  (err, used to do well, that is)
Man, am I out of step with the comments on this thread: I like Bono fine as a person, but I don't think much of this song.
 fredriley wrote:

Because he's a sanctimonious hypocritical gobshite, and a tax evader to boot. He hung out with Bush, Blair & Co reckoning he was doing some good, when all he did was lend them spurious legitimacy for their imperialism. U2 is worth 00s of millions, yet they actively avoid tax in their own feckin' country, and I don't see them shovelling even 1% of their wealth to 'worthy causes'.

St Bonio is of a kind with Richard Branson, but at least Branson is obviously a billionaire capitalist trying to make money out of his customers. U2 put on this act of liberal activism but it's just a front for the same money-making activity.

"BTW: What have you done for mankind lately?"

Nice troll, but a pointless question. I do some good in my own life I hope but it's none of your beeswax. What I don't do is legitimise imperialism and capitalist exploitation. And that's 'humanity' to you, laddie.
 
no one ever said he wasnt a capitalist...hell, he even started a private equity firm (albeit, not successful).  He's a ham, and a bit narcissistic, but not a hypocrite. 

 DeemerDave wrote:


What a load of horse manure. Just another hater of successful people. You deserve to live in that socialist hell-hole.
 

hahahaha... so true.
Like the tune...but sick of the band. Beyond belief...
I always think of this as one of the "newer" U2 albums.  19 years old!
 fredriley wrote:

Because he's a sanctimonious hypocritical gobshite, and a tax evader to boot. He hung out with Bush, Blair & Co reckoning he was doing some good, when all he did was lend them spurious legitimacy for their imperialism. U2 is worth 00s of millions, yet they actively avoid tax in their own feckin' country, and I don't see them shovelling even 1% of their wealth to 'worthy causes'.

St Bonio is of a kind with Richard Branson, but at least Branson is obviously a billionaire capitalist trying to make money out of his customers. U2 put on this act of liberal activism but it's just a front for the same money-making activity.

"BTW: What have you done for mankind lately?"

Nice troll, but a pointless question. I do some good in my own life I hope but it's none of your beeswax. What I don't do is legitimise imperialism and capitalist exploitation. And that's 'humanity' to you, laddie.
 

What a load of horse manure. Just another hater of successful people. You deserve to live in that socialist hell-hole.
Worst track off, perhaps, U2's best album.... Things would have been very different if they'd have filled "Achtung Baby" with stuff like this... Bleurgh.

As an aside, history tells of one instance where Bono (already a mega-freakin-star) approached the great Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart), praising his work and expressing the wish to meet the Cap... Van Vliet managed to pass on this and, bewildered, asked a friend "Who is this Bongo? (sic)" Later, Bono would interview the Captain for a UK mag, where I understand Don complimented U2's work (which he -no doubt- would have lambasted back in his day).

 lemmoth wrote:
This song is fantastic. The album is unbelievable.  Bono is someone using his fame to do good in the world.

To Fred Riley - So what - he's got a frigging ego, You don't get to be a huge rock star, or have the balls to take on world hunger or try to help the peace process in Ireland without a huge ass ego.
He met with whatever powers that were at the time because he didn't feel like waiting for the American or British people to wake up and elect a true progressive. No comment on the tax situation because I don't know enough

  
If he wanted to Bono could just donate to good causes like the rest of us, but watching him strut around like a world savior gives me a queasy feeling. 
Achtung in my favorite U2 album
Most of the tracks from "Achtung Baby" are good. That and "The Joshua Tree" are two of my favorites U2.
I like this song, very much - but I totally agree with fredriley (Nottingham, UK)
It bothers me for many reasons that stars like him, or others just work on their "Mingyu" their face, to feel better. Being famous, aknowledged and wealthy is not enough, they need to be heroes.
Well, it seems to work, so why not. I just don't want them to imagine I've been fooled...
It doesn't take away the pleasure of listening to some of their songs - human are complex, aren't they?

This song is fantastic. The album is unbelievable.  Bono is someone using his fame to do good in the world.

To Fred Riley - So what - he's got a frigging ego, You don't get to be a huge rock star, or have the balls to take on world hunger or try to help the peace process in Ireland without a huge ass ego.
He met with whatever powers that were at the time because he didn't feel like waiting for the American or British people to wake up and elect a true progressive. No comment on the tax situation because I don't know enough

 coffee-eyes wrote:
Whether you like U2 or not, I don't understand this "Saint Bono" crap. Why? Because he's got money and media coverage and tries to use it to help others? Where does the anger against him come from? Get over it. If you don't like U2's music, that's fine, but why dog a guy who's trying to do some good? BTW: What have you done for mankind lately?
 
Because he's a sanctimonious hypocritical gobshite, and a tax evader to boot. He hung out with Bush, Blair & Co reckoning he was doing some good, when all he did was lend them spurious legitimacy for their imperialism. U2 is worth 00s of millions, yet they actively avoid tax in their own feckin' country, and I don't see them shovelling even 1% of their wealth to 'worthy causes'.

St Bonio is of a kind with Richard Branson, but at least Branson is obviously a billionaire capitalist trying to make money out of his customers. U2 put on this act of liberal activism but it's just a front for the same money-making activity.

"BTW: What have you done for mankind lately?"

Nice troll, but a pointless question. I do some good in my own life I hope but it's none of your beeswax. What I don't do is legitimise imperialism and capitalist exploitation. And that's 'humanity' to you, laddie.
 JavaJones wrote:
Underrated song, underrated album. Good stuff.
 
Agreed.  The first time I heard this album after its release in the early 90s, I felt like it was a substantial (positive) developmental shift for U2. I listened to it over and over with an ear toward production, orchestration / musical arrangements, etc.  It took some getting used to as a fan from their early days (i.e., Boy, October) but I quickly embraced it.  Nice to hear one of the lesser known tunes from this project on RP.

Stop it already.......PLEASE.........
Great show in Chicago on Saturday. Looking forward to Boston next week. My taste may be against the tide, but U2 is a great act live.
 Wizzuvv_oz wrote:

holding steady at 2 for me. I certainly don't dislike everything by them, in fact I think I have given them a couple of 10s.  But they _always_ start with a deficit due to the Bono factor.  Whatta wnkr
 

*shrug*
 Wizzuvv_oz wrote:

holding steady at 2 for me. I certainly don't dislike everything by them, in fact I think I have given them a couple of 10s.  But they _always_ start with a deficit due to the Bono factor.  Whatta wnkr

 
So Bono told in an Interview on BBC Radio that Chris Martin is a W...! I dont like him . But the music isnt bad.

Yes, I know U2 is way oversaturated commercially and here, but this songs aiight, just don't tell anyone I like it!{#Shhh}{#Lol}
 rollo_tomasi wrote:
bumped up to 'ho-hum'

2 —-> 3
 
holding steady at 2 for me. I certainly don't dislike everything by them, in fact I think I have given them a couple of 10s.  But they _always_ start with a deficit due to the Bono factor.  Whatta wnkr

bumped up to 'ho-hum'

2 —-> 3
Oh please make them stop...
Underrated song, underrated album. Good stuff.
sooooo boring!!!!!
Digging on the absolutely awesome, understated rhythm guitar riffs!!!!!!!!!    {#Guitarist}
Well, at least it's nice to hear something off this album that hasn't been overplayed over the years. I was so amazed by this album when it came out, then after years of the repeated play of many of the tracks, it has completely reined it for me. I don't blame U-2 or Bono for that of course, more the lack of main-stream radio to have the imagination to find more music. And, not to reply the same music for decades, so as to make me cringe when ever I hear it.
orpheus wrote:
I think part of the negative reaction comes from some people (U2 lovers or not, whether of their current stuff or their previous work) in reponse to all those out there who seem to think St. B. shits gold bricks (and he does seem to come off that way himself sometimes, i.e. more than a tad of arrogance methinks). IMHO anyway :think: :ask:
The man is human. I don't think he presents himself as otherwise. Frankly, I respect what the man is doing. He has the ear of a great many people as a result of his fame. He could be more like.. I dunno, Paris Hilton who uses celebrity to get laid and/or make money... many others like that, she's just the first one who came to mind. Instead, Bono is using his celebrity to try and make the world a better place. Why is that a negative? Personally, I think he deserves respect for it. Think about how much easier it would be to just sit on your butt somewhere on a beach on your own private island with a couple of rent-a-babes. MMmmmm... ahem.
coffee-eyes wrote:
Whether you like U2 or not, I don't understand this "Saint Bono" crap. Why? Because he's got money and media coverage and tries to use it to help others? Where does the anger against him come from? I don't see him hanging out at Hollywood hotspots. I don't see him hanging out at the Playboy Mansion. I don't see him courting tabloids for attention for doing nothing. He's been married to the same woman forever and seems like he loves and cares for his family, his band, and the future of the world. Give me a break. If he did nothing, these same naysayers would be crying about how selfish he is and how he does nothing useful with his wealth and fame. Get over it. If you don't like U2's music, that's fine, but why dog a guy who's trying to do some good? BTW: What have you done for mankind lately? :confused:
I think part of the negative reaction comes from some people (U2 lovers or not, whether of their current stuff or their previous work) in reponse to all those out there who seem to think St. B. shits gold bricks (and he does seem to come off that way himself sometimes, i.e. more than a tad of arrogance methinks). IMHO anyway :think: :ask:
Whether you like U2 or not, I don't understand this "Saint Bono" crap. Why? Because he's got money and media coverage and tries to use it to help others? Where does the anger against him come from? I don't see him hanging out at Hollywood hotspots. I don't see him hanging out at the Playboy Mansion. I don't see him courting tabloids for attention for doing nothing. He's been married to the same woman forever and seems like he loves and cares for his family, his band, and the future of the world. Give me a break. If he did nothing, these same naysayers would be crying about how selfish he is and how he does nothing useful with his wealth and fame. Get over it. If you don't like U2's music, that's fine, but why dog a guy who's trying to do some good? BTW: What have you done for mankind lately? :confused: fredriley wrote:
It's awfully monotonous and long-lasting, a bit like a stale fart in a lift. Give it rest, Saint Bono - we get the picture without you having to repeat it 50 times.
ubastard wrote:
Sorry, I still can't find anything to like about this bozo or his songs!
It's Bono, not Bozo you buffoon, at least spell his name right :wink: :lol: An 8 from me btw :lol:
U2 can do a lot better than this.
U2 can turn down the volume and wait for the music list to update to the next track. Ahhhhhhhhhh, that's better, no more Bono.
It's awfully monotonous and long-lasting, a bit like a stale fart in a lift. Give it rest, Saint Bono - we get the picture without you having to repeat it 50 times.
Amazing lyrics....
could'nt have said it better. gregler wrote:
She wares my love like a see-through dress, her lips say one thing, her movements something else.. Its lyrics like this and the dark, desperate and divine sound of this album that keep it near the top of my charts for more than ten years now, while many other albums come and go.
She wears my love like a see-through dress?
:eek::stupid:
ubastard wrote:
Sorry, I still can't find anything to like about this bozo or his songs!
Him?
She wares my love like a see-through dress, her lips say one thing, her movements something else.. Its lyrics like this and the dark, desperate and divine sound of this album that keep it near the top of my charts for more than ten years now, while many other albums come and go.
Sorry, I still can't find anything to like about this bozo or his songs!
musikalia wrote:
U2 is one of those bands who, when they're good, they're amazing...but when they're not so good, they annoy the hell out of me.
I can really relate to that...and I love this song.
U2 is one of those bands who, when they're good, they're amazing...but when they're not so good, they annoy the hell out of me.
lmic wrote:
I figured this meant - whatever it might be(including the horizontal bop) yeah, you might be there, but you're not really invited. This woman flies solo, doesn't let anyone under her skin, ever.
mhmmm thanks. to other guy, too. Thanks for letting me see your point!
coccyx wrote:
What is she doing that she 'makes you watch her from above'...?<...>
I figured this meant - whatever it might be(including the horizontal bop) yeah, you might be there, but you're not really invited. This woman flies solo, doesn't let anyone under her skin, ever. p.s. By far my fav U2 song. 10
davin wrote:
A hidden gem off of an amazing album. Overlooked many times.. You know what I love about Radio Paradise? They play my favorite songs off of my favorite albums that never came out as singles - and introduces me to music by other artists as well in the same way, breaking new ground with existing material from artists I didn't even know I liked. And that is what puts Radio Paradise in a whole different league than most radio stations out there. Well done!
:cheers:
coccyx wrote:
What is she doing that she 'makes you watch her from above'...? my dirty mind thinks that she "lets" you watch her from above would be more appropriate!
No, "makes" is more appropriate. Whatever she's doing, she's doing it well enough that she gives you no choice but to watch.
What is she doing that she 'makes you watch her from above'...? my dirty mind thinks that she "lets" you watch her from above would be more appropriate!
physicsgenius wrote:
I guess you've never read the Old Testament. "You shall have no other gods before me" -- waaaaaaaaa!
Normally I'm behind all the other PG haters, but damn this was pretty high quality right here. :lol:
Their best album and the second best track, behind One.
One of the things I like about U2 is the way they keep changing their sound and evolving as a band. You may not like Pop or Zooropa, but at least they keep trying different things. Ten albums in the style of Boy would be a bit tiresome. I always remember them being interviewed about Achtung Baby and they described the album as "four men chopping down The Joshua Tree" which considering the commercial success and critical acclaim lauded upon that album was a pretty brave comment.
Xeric wrote:
Man, I may have to buy this album yet.
Do it! Achtung Baby is an excellent album. I will say that I'm not as fond of their immediate recent stuff - the collaboration with Green Day, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, etc. (Though even the last album had some really nice tunes - just not as many as on past albums, IMO.)
This is a great U2 album. But this song is weak! Whine, whine, whine. Kinda like a Irish Adam Duritz. There. Is that insulting enough? :nyah:
tjheff wrote:
Another great U2 tune: "I gave you everything you ever wanted It wasn't what you wanted"
YES!!! I disappeared in you You disappeared from me...
exciter76 wrote:
I'm grown up with this record.... what a sadness to see what u2 are became now.... well... c'est la vie
Kind of funny. I am not a very big U2 fan, but I have heard this comment all through their career. I heard it allot when this album came out. Again I'm not a fan, but there are allot of people whose lives have been deeply affected by this band and at every stage of U2s development they have inspired audiences. It's sad to see what they have become? I don't think it's sad for some one to blow their dreams and goals out of the water. A man would be fortunate to have 1/2 that amount of success (and I'm not just talking about money) in his life. I applaud them.
A hidden gem off of an amazing album. Overlooked many times.. You know what I love about Radio Paradise? They play my favorite songs off of my favorite albums that never came out as singles - and introduces me to music by other artists as well in the same way, breaking new ground with existing material from artists I didn't even know I liked. And that is what puts Radio Paradise in a whole different league than most radio stations out there. Well done!
BeetNik wrote:
Peeeeeeeuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! U2 going down hill. Some people (like Dylan) don't know when to retire. Bono should retire and move to Miami and wear white socks and sandals.
Yes, I'm sure Bono's going to start taking career advice from you. I'll make sure and forward your comments to him.
IMO the best U2 album. Every time I listen to it, it blows me away.
catrip wrote:
Forgot about this album for the past 10 years or so... this song just reminded me of how damn good it was, then and now. Solid stuff.
U2 and Bono the way it should be. 9 now, a couple more years to age properly and it'll be 10. .goat
Not a huge fan of them now, but this is my favorite U2 album by far...great writing and not really a disappointing track on the whole thing
Forgot about this album for the past 10 years or so... this song just reminded me of how damn good it was, then and now. Solid stuff.
Peeeeeeeuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! U2 going down hill. Some people (like Dylan) don't know when to retire. Bono should retire and move to Miami and wear white socks and sandals.
I'm grown up with this record.... what a sadness to see what u2 are became now.... well... c'est la vie
squidish wrote:
You think God whines like a little girl?? No comprende.
I guess you've never read the Old Testament. "You shall have no other gods before me" -- waaaaaaaaa!
Xeric wrote:
Man, I may have to buy this album yet.
It's really a very good album.
Man, I may have to buy this album yet.
For incredible diversity, solid musicianship, passionate feelings, and sheer staying power, I think it may be generations before another band comes along like this one. I'm glad they're part of mine. They can truly inspire many, and I'm grateful. And Bill and Rebecca inspire many, too -- with great music old and new, and I am grateful! Here comes Augie March, another fine band I never would have known if not for RP...
spigolli wrote:
The vocals are just too effeminate as with all of this band's tunes. However it's a solid song, covered by another band it could be great. Maybe U2 should hire Sammy Hagar to sing instead. :razz:
Bono is an alto prolly and from there stretches his range to the top of what he can do. The result is a sort of singing style that reaches out, which works well with most of U2's lyrics. It is effeminate, I think (and thats NOT a put-down) but is key to why it works. Sometimes I wish he would just growl out a tune but I don't think its in him. If'n he did I think the alto would be even more effective by way of contrast. :think:
first time i really HEARD this song. wonder what is on my mind today. yea kinda whiney voice. shoulda let one of de odda boys sang it.
Magnus wrote:
God he whines like a little girl.
You think God whines like a little girl?? No comprende.
One of the best albums ever produced, in my top 10. No doubt
Magnus wrote:
God he whines like a little girl.
it's his shades...
physicsgenius wrote:
This just made my day! I looooove rating U2 a 1!!!!
As much as I think you're comments are generally useless, I guess even a blind squirl finds a nut everyonce in a while.
This just made my day! I looooove rating U2 a 1!!!!
God he whines like a little girl.
Though not my favorite U2 track, I do like this song. I looove the lyrics. As for all the 'this album is better than this one..." commentary... Okay, so it took a little while for Pop to grow on me, but, all in all, I think each album is great for their own reasons. I love each one in different ways... kind of like family. Uhmmm... yeah. :cheesygrin: But then, that's how I feel. *shrugs*
Sensual beat.
You put your lips to her lips to stop the lie! ohhhhhhhhhh love you're so cruel!