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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 9:45pm

 haresfur wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Well when you look at the post below and watch the associated video you will find out that Trump is not a convicted felon.

Nor is he a convicted rapist as you all keep insisting. Words do matter. To continue calling Trump a convicted felon would make you or anyone else who does the same, a liar. I will also no longer refer to Hunter as a convicted felon in light of this information as he has yet to be sentenced. Back to you and anyone else to whom this may apply.

Yes words matter and trump is a convicted felon. And I have never said he is a convicted rapist. He was found guilty in a civil case, which is pretty damning and he has been accused of rape by multiple women including his ex wife. No, that is not the same as a criminal conviction. But we all know that criminal convictions, particularly with older cases are hard to prosecute. He admitted to groping women against their will.


Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York. The jury voted to convict on all 34 counts. How is that not being a convicted felon? Words matter.
 
I guess that you missed my reference to the "post below"

And I said you all, not you when speaking about the convicted rapist part.  The majority here insist on using that term.

This is the "post below" mine that I was referring to.

 thisbody wrote: 
Now tell me again that Trump is a convicted felon.

kcar

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 9:44pm

 kurtster wrote:

Well when you look at the post below and watch the associated video you will find out that Trump is not a convicted felon. Nor is he a convicted rapist as you all keep insisting.

Words do matter.

To continue calling Trump a convicted felon would make you or anyone else who does the same, a liar.

I will also no longer refer to Hunter as a convicted felon in light of this information as he has yet to be sentenced.

Back to you and anyone else to whom this may apply.


Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts by a jury of his peers in a criminal court. He is a convicted felon appealing his sentence

If he were not a convicted felon, he would not be facing a sentencing hearing in September. He also would not have to report to a parole officer. 

If a person is convicted of a felony—say, raping your cousin—he can be sentenced while he's appealing the decision.  He's still regarded as a convicted felon—or perhaps you think that's still innocent and should be allowed to do whatever he likes during the appeal. So, theoretically, he could try to rape your cousin again or your wife while he's out on appeal. 

The opinion of lawyers experienced in such matters is that Trump's chances of a successful appeal are slim, btw.

Yes, you can call Hunter Biden a convicted felon by following my logic. 

Trump has also been judged a rapist by a jury of his peers. The statute of limitations for filing criminal charges against Trump had expired, so the matter was addressed in civil court through codified legal standards, protocols and practices. 

Trump is an adjudicated rapist appealing that judgment. 

Words do matter. So does facing facts even when you don't like them. You can't wish an alternate reality into existence, Kurt. 
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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 9:35pm

 kurtster wrote:

Well when you look at the post below and watch the associated video you will find out that Trump is not a convicted felon. Nor is he a convicted rapist as you all keep insisting.

Words do matter.

To continue calling Trump a convicted felon would make you or anyone else who does the same, a liar.

I will also no longer refer to Hunter as a convicted felon in light of this information as he has yet to be sentenced.

Back to you and anyone else to whom this may apply.

Yes words matter and trump is a convicted felon. And I have never said he is a convicted rapist. He was found guilty in a civil case, which is pretty damning and he has been accused of rape by multiple women including his ex wife. No, that is not the same as a criminal conviction. But we all know that criminal convictions, particularly with older cases are hard to prosecute. He admitted to groping women against their will.


Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York. The jury voted to convict on all 34 counts. How is that not being a convicted felon? Words matter.

Edit: So after he is sentenced, you will agree he is a felon, right? And you will still support him, right?
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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 8:08pm

 haresfur wrote:
Kurt, Let's get back to the supreme court issues and your continued support for trump even though he is a convicted felon. You use every slippery move possible to avoid saying that, or any of the other crimes he is accused of disqualify him as president. Oh, his appeal hasn't gone through to get a ruling from the Supreme Court? Most other felons are sentenced and serve time and maybe, eventually their appeals wind through the process and maybe are taken up by the Supreme Court years later. Usually that won't happen. Sure, due process and all before they are convicted. But once someone is convicted of a crime, they are considered a criminal. You are willing to vote for a felon for president. No way around that.  You will continue to turn a blind eye to his being a felon and all indications he is a creep, including his own wife saying he raped her. Your bar for his behaviour is set at it is ok until the Supreme Court rules against him. Oh, and the places like all his attempts to tamper with the election where the Supreme Court ruled against him don't count. And the many legal cases that he and his organisation have lost don't count if they were not criminal cases.  So if you wonder why several people here treat your opinions with contempt, that's probably a lot of it.
 
Well when you look at the post below and watch the associated video you will find out that Trump is not a convicted felon. Nor is he a convicted rapist as you all keep insisting.

Words do matter.

To continue calling Trump a convicted felon would make you or anyone else who does the same, a liar.

I will also no longer refer to Hunter as a convicted felon in light of this information as he has yet to be sentenced.

Back to you and anyone else to whom this may apply.
thisbody

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 7:56pm

Lawyer — President Trump is not actually a convicted felon. Media outlets should be careful.
haresfur

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 7:27pm

 kurtster wrote:


WTF are you talking about ?  What does this have to do with the topic which was the SCOTUS ?  I don't recall making any such statements.  Show me the quotes.  You're channeling someone else, maybe veev ?  Sounds like something he would say.

You're fascination with rape is beyond comprehension.  Rape this, rape that, here a rape there a rape, everywhere a rape, rape ... old Mac kcar had a dream e, i, e, i, oh ....
.
Do you fantasize about it ?  Did your mommy cut you off too soon ?

You have seriously gone off the reservation.  You're too far gone to talk to at all anymore. 

Geezus, you really need to get laid, stat !!

Or maybe canoeing ...
.


Kurt,

Let's get back to the supreme court issues and your continued support for trump even though he is a convicted felon.

You use every slippery move possible to avoid saying that, or any of the other crimes he is accused of disqualify him as president. Oh, his appeal hasn't gone through to get a ruling from the Supreme Court? Most other felons are sentenced and serve time and maybe, eventually their appeals wind through the process and maybe are taken up by the Supreme Court years later. Usually that won't happen. Sure, due process and all before they are convicted. But once someone is convicted of a crime, they are considered a criminal. You are willing to vote for a felon for president. No way around that. 

You will continue to turn a blind eye to his being a felon and all indications he is a creep, including his own wife saying he raped her. Your bar for his behaviour is set at it is ok until the Supreme Court rules against him. Oh, and the places like all his attempts to tamper with the election where the Supreme Court ruled against him don't count. And the many legal cases that he and his organisation have lost don't count if they were not criminal cases. 

So if you wonder why several people here treat your opinions with contempt, that's probably a lot of it.
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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 6:16pm

 Beaker wrote:
Good lord, you're the very model of an illogical and immature fool. 


To quote Woody Allen: â€What did you do, place?”
Beaker

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 12:12pm

 kcar wrote:

Trump's still a rapist and a convicted felon, pendejo. He still owes over half a billion dollars in civil damages. He cannot stop lying. He sucked as president. 

Traci Lords is irrelevant to this "discussion."

I can understand why you support Trump. He's a clown and you're a clown. But still: GFY and wipe your ass while you're at it. 


Good lord, you're the very model of an illogical and immature fool.  Have you ever successfully argued a position, for real benefits/consequences in your life?  I'd wager: never

Reminder: You introduced Traci Lords to the discussion, dimbulb. 

Enjoy your life of illogic and non sequiturs.





kcar

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 12:09pm

 Beaker wrote:

  

You've failed at both debate and research skills. 

Your logical fallacy: The burden of proof (“onus probandi”)

Burden of proof is on you, dipshit.  But do continue screaming at the clouds.


Trump's still a rapist and a convicted felon, pendejo. He still owes over half a billion dollars in civil damages. He cannot stop lying. He sucked as president. 

Traci Lords is irrelevant to this "discussion."

I can understand why you support Trump. He's a clown and you're a clown. But still: GFY and wipe your ass while you're at it. 
Beaker

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:54am

 kcar wrote:
Except you still can't/won't provide your evidence. So once again, you're just a pointless mosquito. Find something better to do on the 4th of July, dipshit. 

  

You've failed at both debate and research skills. 

Your logical fallacy: The burden of proof (“onus probandi”)

Burden of proof is on you, dipshit.  But do continue screaming at the clouds.
kcar

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:47am

 Beaker wrote:


Already did, just to refresh my memory.  Maybe YOU should re-read the Wiki article! Then I also read news reports on charges laid and outcomes.  And it's YOUR claims that are in need of defending & proving - not mine.  Nice try though. 
 Get busy and provide some proof!  FYI - Wiki is not proof.

And no, I'm not going to provide research for you, dipshit.









Except you still can't/won't provide your evidence. So once again, you're just a pointless mosquito. Find something better to do on the 4th of July, dipshit. 
Beaker

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:13am

 kcar wrote:


Falsehoods so easily provable that you couldn't provide evidence to support your claim! Huh!

 I referred to Traci Lord's  Wikipedia entry and this Wikipedia article about the related trial and conviction of a video distributor. Read them, Beaker. 


Already did, just to refresh my memory.  Maybe YOU should re-read the Wiki article! Then I also read news reports on charges laid and outcomes.  And it's YOUR claims that are in need of defending & proving - not mine.  Nice try though. 
 Get busy and provide some proof!  FYI - Wiki is not proof.

And no, I'm not going to provide research for you, dipshit.

kcar

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:11am

 Beaker wrote:

Inaccurate/false. 


False x 2


If you're going to cite as an example, the underage Traci Lords, you really should be aware of the facts of how she entered the business, made films, and took part in photoshoots for adult mags.

Uttering easily provable falsehoods and lies to support your narrative only illustrates your ignorance and bias on the topic itself. 



Falsehoods so easily provable that you couldn't provide evidence to support your claim! Huh!

 I referred to Traci Lord's  Wikipedia entry and this Wikipedia article about the related trial and conviction of a video distributor. Read them, Beaker. 
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:05am

 kcar wrote:

 I see people like you as a clear sign that we are near the end of democracy, truth and fairness in this country globally.

you and me bro. 
 

kcar

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:01am

 kurtster wrote:


You're fascination with rape is beyond comprehension.  Rape this, rape that, here a rape there a rape, everywhere a rape, rape ... old Mac kcar had a dream e, i, e, i, oh ....
.





The claims of rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment against Trump are numerous and long-established.  In one incident of a rape claim, a jury of Trump's peers believed the claim was true and awarded E. Jean Carroll $5 million in damages for Trump's defamation of her character. A second jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million in further damages, basing that decision on their belief that Carroll's story of Trump raping her was true and that his statements about her after the first decision were therefore defamatory as well. 

The claims of rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment against Trump reveal his pattern of violent criminal behavior, abuse of power and use of threats and coercion to silence the women. Trump's sexual behavior and his behavior in defense of his predatory acts are on their own perfect demonstrations that he's unfit to be president. 

Your desperate attempts to defend his rape of Carroll and your silence on the other claims of sex crimes against Trump show quite clearly that when it comes to Trump, your moral compass and ability to think rationally disappear. 

Frankly, if you're not being paid to shill for Trump you're missing out on big money. It's gotten to the point where I have no respect for you or your claims. I see people like you as a clear sign that we are near the end of democracy, truth and fairness in this country. 

‘They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.’ —Ben Franklin 
Beaker

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 10:54am

 kcar wrote:

Traci was 15 IIRC when she passed herself off as 18 using a doctored passport from another person. 

Inaccurate/false. 

 kcar wrote:
 People went to prison for failing to do due diligence on verifying her age. 

False x 2


If you're going to cite as an example, the underage Traci Lords, you really should be aware of the facts of how she entered the business, made films, and took part in photoshoots for adult mags.

Uttering easily provable falsehoods and lies to support your narrative only illustrates your ignorance and bias on the topic itself. 

kcar

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 10:39am

As I posted earlier: 

Katie Johnson stated told Epstein how old she was (13). She also stated IIRC that Trump knew her real age. 

kcar

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 10:37am

 kurtster wrote:


WTF are you talking about ?  What does this have to do with the topic which was the SCOTUS ?  I don't recall making any such statements.  Show me the quotes.  

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 10:30am

 haresfur wrote:

I'm not sure what your point is. If someone did their due diligence and was shown a falsely issued passport, I wouldn't prosecute them, particularly if they responded appropriately after the fact by removing the films. That surely is a rare case. I don't see the relevance here.



Traci was 15 IIRC when she passed herself off as 18 using a doctored passport from another person. All of her films made before she was 18 were destroyed. People went to prison for failing to do due diligence on verifying her age. 

If a woman/girl tells you she's not a minor when she actually is and you have sex with her, you're still criminally liable. If you could have sex with a minor and then claim "she didn't tell me/she said she was 18" as a successful defense, it would be the perfect get-out-of-jail card and render the relevant law useless.  
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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 9:57am

 kurtster wrote:


WTF are you talking about ?  What does this have to do with the topic which was the SCOTUS ?  I don't recall making any such statements.  Show me the quotes.  You're channeling someone else, maybe veev ?  Sounds like something he would say.

 
Don’t even have clue as to what you’re blabbing about but thanks for the shout-out! Baba-booey!
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