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Billie Eilish — When I Was Older
Album: Music Inspired by the film Roma
Avg rating:
6.6

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Total ratings: 1001









Released: 2019
Length: 4:24
Plays (last 30 days): 6
When I was older
I was a sailor
On an open sea
But now I'm underwater
And my skin is paler
Than it should ever be

I'm on my back again
Dreaming of a time and place
Where you and I remain the best of friends
Even after all this ends
Can we pretend?
I'm on my, I'm on my back again
It seems more and more
Like all we ever do is see
How far it bends
Before it breaks in half and then
We bend it back again

Guess I got caught in the middle of it
Yes I've been taught, got a little of it
In my blood, in my blood
Memories burn like a forest fire
Heavy rain turns any funeral pyre to mud
In the flood

When I was older
I was a sailor
On an open sea
But now I'm underwater
And my skin is paler
Than it should ever be

I'm watching movies back to back
In black and white, I never
Seen anybody do it like I do it any better
Then going over you, I'm overdue for no endeavors
Nobody lonely like I'm lonely and I don't know whether
You'd really like it in the limelight
You'd sympathize with all the bad guys
I'm still a victim in my own right
But I'm the villain in my own eyes

When I was older
I was a sailor
On an open sea
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 BillG wrote:


A bit of clarification:

autotune = digital processing used to force a vocal to match a given scale, ie: to fix a sloppy or untalented performance 

vocoder = digital processing where the pitch of a vocal sample is altered for artistic effect

What's used here is a vocoder effect. 
 
Thanks for the clarification.   
LOVE the pissed off  teenage pic!
 ziggytrix wrote:


Well, people who call vocoder effects "autotune" put me off. 
 
Pitch extraction is pitch extraction, whether you do it to correct the pitch or just for the "vocoder effect."

And pitch extraction always introduces phase errors which produce a comb filter (jet sounds, flanging, etc.).

I spent about 10 years working on ways to reduce phase errors in audio processing, so forgive me if intentionally introducing such errors grates on my ears a bit.

Still gave it a 7 just because I'm so goldurn with it, hep, and down with the young'uns.
Ick.  If only there were a zero...
every time i hear this sond, i feel kinda uncomfortable and tense/jittery. if this isn't what a good song makes, i don't know.
Wow, that was irritating.
Finneas ~ is so very Talented.
 be4con wrote:
This is a great tune and exactly what autotune should be used for, not to make a poor voice sound good but to make a great voice sound different.
 

A bit of clarification:

autotune = digital processing used to force a vocal to match a given scale, ie: to fix a sloppy or untalented performance 

vocoder = digital processing where the pitch of a vocal sample is altered for artistic effect

What's used here is a vocoder effect. 
Newly acquiring a real appreciation for Eilish's talent. I ended up listening to a whole album (that my daughter played) and was super impressed.
 saellig668552 wrote:
still (despite autotune) there is great and unique new music/artists out there...
its rare - but this is proof - the production of this track includes everything i regularly despise in actual music - but this breaths authenticy and an personal aura of the artist.
thanks rp for keepin on "educating" us...
 

Well said.  I truly despise autotune and yet, this is very interesting.  
meh...
This is a great tune and exactly what autotune should be used for, not to make a poor voice sound good but to make a great voice sound different.
6→5

Just can’t take the excessive autotune effefcts.
 kingart wrote:
... She's trending? I'll believe it when I hear it. 
 
How does one hear trending?
 saellig668552 wrote:
still (despite autotune) there is great and unique new music/artists out there...
its rare - but this is proof - the production of this track includes everything i regularly despise in actual music - but this breaths authenticy and an personal aura of the artist.
thanks rp for keepin on "educating" us...
 
I like that the autotune actually does something other than just fixing notes. The whole vocal "tone clusters" achieved with the autotune I find quite fascinating here.
still (despite autotune) there is great and unique new music/artists out there...
its rare - but this is proof - the production of this track includes everything i regularly despise in actual music - but this breaths authenticy and an personal aura of the artist.
thanks rp for keepin on "educating" us...
great music on official app
this gets an eight . . . now it's in my PSD favorites
When does the actual music begin? 
Meh. 
She's a really rich kid with connected parents.  Good for her for not just laying around. 

 
DaidyBoy wrote:
I've no idea how to rate this, but it's fascinating stuff.
 

Nah, not me, thanks. 
 DaidyBoy wrote:
I've no idea how to rate this, but it's fascinating stuff.
 
I'll give it a solid 7 with this first listen
 black321 wrote:
Exciting to hear a youngster put out such compelling music, all before she turns 18.  There is hope.
 
.....as self-absorbed as it might be.
What’s the deal with auto tune vocals? Too lazy to sing in tune. Totally uninspired.
ennui
(ˈɒnwiː; French ɑ̃nɥi)na feeling of listlessness and general dissatisfaction resulting from lack of activity or excitement[C18: from French: apathy, from Old French enui annoyance, vexation; see annoy]
Absolutely love it. A breath of fresh air.

Her look is kind of errr... I prefer the song.
From no rating to a six. It's growing on me. I hope it's not a fungus...
 hilaryann659 wrote:


If you actually read from where the music is inspired from AND actually saw the movie...you would understand the reference and albeit, importance of the barking dog.
 

I HAVE seen the movie. Several times. Your point being? 
Exciting to hear a youngster put out such compelling music, all before she turns 18.  There is hope.
 SurfDoc wrote:
Like it or not this girl (17 at this time) is bound to be a  big star.  Her new album is great and she is HUGE with kids.  She's creative, unique and young, I think we will see great stuff from her in the future.
 
Agreed.  At the very least it will be interesting to see how she (and her brother by the way) develops.  Will she soar, or flame out?  Only the future knows.  I can point to any number of artist who have done both.

But I'll give snaps to RP for doing what it takes to stay relevant and current.  Us old farts can be a bit critical when it comes to music we think grates of "what are those young pup's THINKING!?!" but hey...music...it goes on forever regardless don't it? 

To each (generation) there comes their time....so while I can appreciate (some of) it I'll have to give way to the acknowledgment that this is their time, not mine.  

It doesn't mean I can't enjoy it, too, though.  ;-)  It is in my nature to be a musical omnivore....it's all good so long as the right sauce is applied.  And for now this chica has it....

Highlow
American Net'Zen
Like it or not this girl (17 at this time) is bound to be a  big star.  Her new album is great and she is HUGE with kids.  She's creative, unique and young, I think we will see great stuff from her in the future.
 DaidyBoy wrote:

No, that has no effect.  The crummy vocoder or whatever spoils it for me.  Sparky's Magic Piano was the last time I appreciated it.  I was about 5.
 
Aww, c'mon! Admit it, you sing along to ELO's Mr Blue Sky ... not to mention Laurie Anderson's Oh Superman
Figures it is associated with the movie Roma - a painful 2 hours
I agree. We'll see when the fascination wears off.

 DaidyBoy wrote:
I've no idea how to rate this, but it's fascinating stuff.
 

Is there any energy in this music? It throbs, it bobs, it flutters, it sputters.  She's trending? I'll believe it when I hear it. 
 pankman wrote:
The guy who invented the vocoder should be tarred and feathered. The most needless and embarrassing effect ever.
 

Well Homer Dudley of Bell Labs invented the Vocoder, but his usage was just to transmit voice over a phone line as data. If you ever use any modern IT device, cell phone, internet, whatever, you should be super grateful for his work.

Likely not the first to use it for musical effect, but quite probably the first to popularize it would be Kraftwerk. You're certainly not the first to want to tar and feather them, but it puts you squarely in the "has zero appreciation for electronic music" camp, which I guess is your prerogative, but there's quite a good bit of that played here, so I suggest you work out the skip and PSD buttons for your own happiness' sake.
 ziggytrix wrote:
Well, people who call vocoder effects "autotune" put me off. 
 
They're both annoying tricks.
 pankman wrote:
The guy who invented the vocoder should be tarred and feathered. The most needless and embarrassing effect ever.
 
Alan Parsons using it in the 70's sounded unique but now it's just a voice cover. 
Damn! I love this song reminds me of Telepop Music.
Chilling.
 dwhayslett wrote:

The (unmentioned-in-the-song-info) name "Pirate" keeps you from enjoying this?
 
No, that has no effect.  The crummy vocoder or whatever spoils it for me.  Sparky's Magic Piano was the last time I appreciated it.  I was about 5.
The guy who invented the vocoder should be tarred and feathered. The most needless and embarrassing effect ever.
Very interesting.
 kingart wrote:
The barking dog? Does it have some thematic / analogous relation to the barking dog in Cuaron's brilliant Children of Men? We hear the dogs when the woman is giving birth -- but after she and Clive Owen deliver the crying baby, the dogs go silent. A RIVETING SCENE. 
 

If you actually read from where the music is inspired from AND actually saw the movie...you would understand the reference and albeit, importance of the barking dog.
 DaidyBoy wrote:
I'm sure this is enjoyable to many, but I'm struggling with the middle name of "Pirate".
 
The (unmentioned-in-the-song-info) name "Pirate" keeps you from enjoying this?
 DaidyBoy wrote:
I'm sure this is enjoyable to many, but I'm struggling with the middle name of "Pirate".
 I guess you'd have to ask her parents about that.

I'm sure this is enjoyable to many, but I'm struggling with the middle name of "Pirate".
First time hearing this artist on RP, and I have to say I'm glad I listened past the first part. Almost skipped this song due to the long and slow intro not mixing with cleaning the dishes. Glad I didn't! Maybe it's because my initial reaction was to skip the song, but I quickly fell in to a groove once we got to the meat and potatoes. 
Kids this age are just being admitted to college (university for you folks)! Interesting nonetheless!!!
First time hearing this song.  I really like it, quite different from the typical stuff I hear these days.
I'm gonna buy all her music!
 DaidyBoy wrote:
I've no idea how to rate this, but it's fascinating stuff.
 
Had to stop what I was doing to pause & look at this one - usually the normal rating descriptions come to mind, but the word I was thinking about this one, too, was "fascinating."  Is there an alternate rating scale we can use in addition to 1-10?  A, B, C, etc.?  "Fascinating, ethereal, mind-bending, driving-to-fast, work-stopping? "
Incredible. Talent that defies time, age or genre. I'll be looking for more.
 aelfheld wrote:
The Autotune effect is offputting.
 

Well, people who call vocoder effects "autotune" put me off. 
 black321 wrote:
Excellent new cut/artist...was wondering if i would hear Billie on RP.  
ps, i think she is only 18 y.o.
 

17, actually. Impressive. 
The barking dog? Does it have some thematic / analogous relation to the barking dog in Cuaron's brilliant Children of Men? We hear the dogs when the woman is giving birth -- but after she and Clive Owen deliver the crying baby, the dogs go silent. A RIVETING SCENE. 
Very nice to see new music in RP! Great artist! 
Excellent new cut/artist...was wondering if i would hear Billie on RP.  
ps, i think she is only 18 y.o.
The Autotune effect is offputting.
I've no idea how to rate this, but it's fascinating stuff.
luv

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