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Beethoven — Symphony No.5 - Allegro Con Brio
Album: Herbert Von Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic
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Released: 1808
Length: 7:15
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I really don't like Karajan that much. I'd rather listen to Cluytens conducing the same masterpiece.
 bking wrote:
Fifth of Beethoven so much better than this drivel.
 
Heathen.
How Bill can resist following this with ELO's Roll Over Beethoven every single time, just for the fun of it, is a mystery to me. 
Wow, the full suite is fantastic. Usually just hear the motif.
Fifth of Beethoven so much better than this drivel.
 freddyfender wrote:

27 people who should all be banned from this station!
 If you like this listen to NPR, play Hawkwind


  I was waiting for ELO to kick it in after the first couple of bars.. 
onerb wrote:

Beethoven obviously phoned this one in...

 
Proclivities wrote:

Yeah, it's repetitive, derivative, and it sounds vaguely like Mumford & Sons.
 
This might have been the last time he could have "phoned it in" - nearly completely deaf in just a few years after this came out.....which is all the more impressive to think he was writing SYMPHONIES while deaf!  GawdDam!!  Long Live RP and keep the Classical HITS coming!!

Beethoven not only a composer but an institution. He seemingly, single handedly,  brought Europe out of a very dark period.
You just have to love RP for music like this!
 mhamann123 wrote:
@Jamus, you're quite right, it's so much better when listening to the whole Symphony, however the same could be said for any piece of music.
After Symphonies came Albums.
I feel sorry for the 'iTunes generation' that only buy individual songs and never appreciate an artist's full vision.
That said, after hearing this on RP I listened to the full album of this recording.
btw Bill, it was actually released 1963 not 1808...
 
This recording may have been released in 1963, but the 5th Symphony was debuted in 1808, hence the release date being what it is. Similar dates appear on other classical scores played on RP, Erik Satie, for example.
Got a real touch of Bugs Bunny about this...…….
whoever rated this a 1 should not be listening to music
 Love this!!!
This is Beethoven's Fifth Symphony.
The repeated motif at the beginning of this movement: dit-dit-dit-dah.
Morse code for the letter V is dit-dit-dit-dah.
The Roman numeral for 5 is V.

Coincidence? NO! 

It's proof that aliens were around in Beethoven's time and influenced him to write this symphony as a coded message to those that can see the truth!

<insert sarcastic, cynical smiley>
 mhamann123 wrote:
Herbert Von Karajans 5th is musical perfection. I reserve my 10 ratings on RP for excellence. This is one of them.
 
And as #1356 to rate this a 10, it looks like the majority of song-raters here agree!  (THANK god for that!) Long Live RP!!
 mhamann123 wrote:
Herbert Von Karajans 5th is musical perfection. I reserve my 10 ratings on RP for excellence. This is one of them.
 
I agree

Nah, there are better covers of the fifth. LSO has quite  a good number. Bernard Haitink nailed it. 
@Jamus, you're quite right, it's so much better when listening to the whole Symphony, however the same could be said for any piece of music.
After Symphonies came Albums.
I feel sorry for the 'iTunes generation' that only buy individual songs and never appreciate an artist's full vision.
That said, after hearing this on RP I listened to the full album of this recording.
btw Bill, it was actually released 1963 not 1808...
While I applaud your initiative to introduce at least the chestnuts to RP's large audience, these little gems arrive with no context. They were written to be part of a much larger symphony - in this absence, I'm finding them too incongruous Bill.
Beethoven, and his music, convinces me that God exists.  The fact that He deigned to give us only one Beethoven makes me think He is not that nice.
Always room for more Classical on RP - IMHO.....
Thanks for mixing it up RP! 
 
Herbert Von Karajans 5th is musical perfection. I reserve my 10 ratings on RP for excellence. This is one of them.
It is this version of the 5th - von Karajan's Berlin Symphony - that I owned, and came to know so well.  At some point, I acquired the 5th by another orchestra, another Maestro. And the differences were so notable.  Not lesser, just the emphases were different.
9 -> 10 -  G O D L I K E
5th, 7th, 9th; how many of us could have done this with even total hearing...point being Beethoven was simply a genius!!! His pieces always take my breath away... 

kingart wrote:

I'm not sure, but I think Ludwig van was not quite deaf when he wrote the 5th. It has been said that the famous opening notes was the beating upon his door of the accelerating loss of hearing. He was deaf thereafter, on the 7th - 9th, the Missa Solemnis, and all else. His finest works of music were composed by a deaf man. Never fails to amaze and inspire me. 
 

 


 kingart wrote:

I'm not sure, but I think Ludwig van was not quite deaf when he wrote the 5th. It has been said that the famous opening notes was the beating upon his door of the accelerating loss of hearing. He was deaf thereafter, on the 7th - 9th, the Missa Solemnis, and all else. His finest works of music were composed by a deaf man. Never fails to amaze and inspire me. 
 

 


Nothing like a little Ludwig in the morning...followed by Jimi Hendrix!!! Love you Radio Paradise!{#Smile}
this Beethoven guy shows some pretty good potential. 
SRV opening for Beethoven...that's THAT'S a GREAT DOUBLE-BILL!
 Randy wrote:
No question, Beethoven was a genius.  He was deaf when composed the 5th.  Never gets old.   

 
I'm not sure, but I think Ludwig van was not quite deaf when he wrote the 5th. It has been said that the famous opening notes was the beating upon his door of the accelerating loss of hearing. He was deaf thereafter, on the 7th - 9th, the Missa Solemnis, and all else. His finest works of music were composed by a deaf man. Never fails to amaze and inspire me. 
 
 Randy wrote:
No question, Beethoven was a genius.  He was deaf when composed the 5th.  Never gets old.   

 
He was impaired while composing the 5th, but not completely deaf until the incredible 9th.
 flyboy50 wrote:

Every lover of rock and pop should give Carl Orff's  'Carmina Burana' a listen.



 
Yes indeed!!
And good grief, what has this guy put out lately? Resting on his laurels.
 

Kaw wrote:
It's obviously a good symphony, but I heared it too many times. For many people this symphony has become the body of classical music. You say classical music. They say paddaddapaaam! It has become sort of cheesy to my ears.

There is a lot more crazy good classical music out there... 

 


Every lover of rock and pop should give Carl Orff's  'Carmina Burana' a listen.


I just wonder...What IF this got slipped into the poppy FM station my 12 year-old daughter listens to? Would listeners even notice? I like to think they would have a moment of pre-teen clarity. Just wondering. REGARDLESS of that silly thought as well as how many times I've heard it: Thank you Bill, for playing this. Now on to Jimi Hendrix. Got it!
No question, Beethoven was a genius.  He was deaf when composed the 5th.  Never gets old.   
 On_The_Beach wrote:

So you're essentially calling this the "Stairway to Heaven" of classical music?  {#Wink}

 
Exactly!
 Kaw wrote:
It's obviously a good symphony, but I heared it too many times. For many people this symphony has become the body of classical music. You say classical music. They say paddaddapaaam! It has become sort of cheesy to my ears.

There is a lot more crazy good classical music out there...
 
So you're essentially calling this the "Stairway to Heaven" of classical music?  {#Wink}
It's obviously a good symphony, but I heared it too many times. For many people this symphony has become the body of classical music. You say classical music. They say paddaddapaaam! It has become sort of cheesy to my ears.

There is a lot more crazy good classical music out there... 
speakers wobbling {#Dancingbanana}
SOOOOOOOOOI GOOD on a sunning morning drinking coffee. SO loud. SO good

{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}{#Boohoo}


 steeler wrote:
How does one rate this as sucko-barfo? 28 did.

  28 people with a very narrow perspective on music


 SuperWeh wrote:
not my thing. also not into the whole "i know something about music because i listen to classical music sometimes" thing. still, a whole lot better than anything mozart put out.

 
Agree re, Mozart. Disagree re, "i know something about music because i listen to classical music sometimes". I don't care if I am classified as a musical pleb. I know what I like and I like Beethoven, Verdi, Vivaldi, Saint-Saens, Borodin and so on.
Also like Van Halen, Rolling Stones, Garth Brooks, CSNY, Dire Straits and so on.
Great to 'know' music (my son the cellist gives me an education in this respect). Much prefer to tune in and decide "yes, it is good" (as in Vivaldi or Van Halen) or "no, it is drivel" (why am I thinking U2 right now).
 Pedro1874 wrote:

{#Notworthy}{#Clap}{#Sunny} This is why we love RP.  Stevie Ray segued into Ludwig Van.  {#Yes}

 
Followed by Jimi. RP - by far the best
 Typesbad wrote:
Most famous riff of all time?

  That or Eine Kleine Nachtmusik


 msymmes wrote:
And to follow Stevie Ray Vaughan's version of Pipeline is something you won't here anywhere else {#Bananajam}{#Bananajumprope}

 
{#Notworthy}{#Clap}{#Sunny} This is why we love RP.  Stevie Ray segued into Ludwig Van.  {#Yes}
OH BILL, YOU ECLECTIC DEVIL.
Simply superb!!
Bach's Brandenburg Concerto No3 would be the cherry on top.
 
It does not get much better than his 5th.  I don`t like Beethoven personally, but this is easily his best Symphony.
 
Karajan was just the bestes, and the Berlin philharmonic Orchestra is on top of their game in this recording. Love it.
Beethoven then Hendrix, only on RP. This is why RP is the best streaming music source on the planet. Considering how many people worldwide tune in, they must agree.{#Daisy}
Play the 8th, Bill! {#Boohoo}
Most famous riff of all time?
What is this, amateur hour? Who composed this tripe? A 3 years old?!
And to follow Stevie Ray Vaughan's version of Pipeline is something you won't here anywhere else {#Bananajam}{#Bananajumprope}
 On_The_Beach wrote:
Hmmm, so music can kick ass without electric guitars?
. . . interesting!

 
I hope your being sarcastic? {#Drunk} lol 
Just awesome to find this here. I love it!
 jenzen wrote:
What a sweet surprise to fine this Symphony — the whole symphony — as a selection on this Thursday afternoon. Like a summer storm with all its freshness and cooling rain. Then to follow with Eleanor Rigby? My friends and I think RP provides genius musical mixology. 

 
RP is a work of art that incorporates works of art.  In the case of Beethoven, a magnificent work of art!  And as I'm finishing up this comment, the Fifth is followed by Hendrix' All Along the Watchtower.  Classic.
 sid1950 wrote:

What meaning Beethoven intended by those notes is open to conjecture, but during WW2 the BBC used the 4-note motif (played on drums) to open their news broadcasts, and I believe Churchill was a great fan of the work.

Morse didn't begin work on what became International Morse Code until 1836, so the symphony pre-dates the code by 3 decades. So what came first? It may be that Morse knew the music?

 
A few years back, the BBC offered temporarily free downloads of the BBC Orchestra performing Beethoven's symphonies, with short commentary preceding the performances. The announcer for the 5th claimed that the opening notes were likely inspired by the call of the yellowhammer bird that Beethoven heard while walking through Vienna's Prater Park. 

A recording of the yellowhammer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnvc-Cc3vkU 

According to Wikipedia, the yellowhammer's hold over Beethoven showed up in other works: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowhammer#In_culture 
Hmmm, so music can kick ass without electric guitars?
. . . interesting!
 sid1950 wrote:

What meaning Beethoven intended by those notes is open to conjecture, but during WW2 the BBC used the 4-note motif (played on drums) to open their news broadcasts, and I believe Churchill was a great fan of the work.

Morse didn't begin work on what became International Morse Code until 1836, so the symphony pre-dates the code by 3 decades. So what came first? It may be that Morse knew the music?

 
Without a doubt, Samuel Morse had Beethoven's 5th Symphony in mind for the letter V. It would be too coincidental otherwise. None of this diminishes the magnificence of the this Symphony.
 Homunculus wrote:
It is interesting, even if only to myself, that Beethoven’s “dit dit dit dah” is Morse Code for the letter V that in Roman Numerals indicates number five. Certainly I’m not the only old code reading fossil listening to RP to have understood this.

 
What meaning Beethoven intended by those notes is open to conjecture, but during WW2 the BBC used the 4-note motif (played on drums) to open their news broadcasts, and I believe Churchill was a great fan of the work.

Morse didn't begin work on what became International Morse Code until 1836, so the symphony pre-dates the code by 3 decades. So what came first? It may be that Morse knew the music?
 Homunculus wrote:
It is interesting, even if only to myself, that Beethoven’s “dit dit dit dah” is Morse Code for the letter V that in Roman Numerals indicates number five. Certainly I’m not the only old code reading fossil listening to RP to have understood this.

 
An opinion without 3.142 is an onion.
You will understand.
{#Smile}

...some of these instrumental, orchestral, covers of classic rock songs really seem to work, but,
etc, etc, (you geddit !)

not my thing. also not into the whole "i know something about music because i listen to classical music sometimes" thing. still, a whole lot better than anything mozart put out.
Morse code was developed between 1835 and 1837. Beethoven's work is of 1808.
Maybe Morse took inspiration from Beethoven :-)

 
Homunculus wrote:
It is interesting, even if only to myself, that Beethoven’s “dit dit dit dah” is Morse Code for the letter V that in Roman Numerals indicates number five. Certainly I’m not the only old code reading fossil listening to RP to have understood this.

 

It is interesting, even if only to myself, that Beethoven’s “dit dit dit dah” is Morse Code for the letter V that in Roman Numerals indicates number five. Certainly I’m not the only old code reading fossil listening to RP to have understood this.
 PixelPushers wrote:
I think this comment was meant for the Clapton song that usually follows this classical piece. I'm pretty sure there are no saxophone solos in Beethoven's work. 
 

skyguy wrote:

Sax-a-ma-phone.....
 
 
https://youtu.be/YrwOxpac0XY

couldn't get it to embed.
I think this comment was meant for the Clapton song that usually follows this classical piece. I'm pretty sure there are no saxophone solos in Beethoven's work. 
 

skyguy wrote:

Sax-a-ma-phone.....
 

This guy Beethoven has a real future in music.

Wasn't he in one of those early boy groups back in the day. 
How does one rate this as sucko-barfo? 28 did.

Sax-a-ma-phone.....

 gumby wrote:

Remember Tom&Jerry?

 
Bugs was my introduction to Classical music. For that, I am grateful.
 clelaed wrote:
Remember Bugs Bunn y?

 
Remember Tom&Jerry?
From SRV to LVB.  ONLY on RP - Thanks Bill and Rebecca {#Clap}
 marktberry wrote:
"Nothing like a little Ludwig Van, oh, my droogies."

 
Thank God for Clockwork Orange....gave me a huge kickstart in appreciation of classical music
Beethoven meets Karajan. Can't get any better than this
Anything but a "10" and you are an idiot!  :)
 musikluvr wrote:
Who gave this a one? Really? {#Stupid}

 
27 people who should all be banned from this station!
Brilliant
Ultimate PSD: from Dengue Fever's "Oceans of Venus" to this. Musically, you can't travel a greater distance than that.  
da da da da - 4 notes-the most famous riff ever
next song should be chuck berry
Needs more bass.
"Nothing like a little Ludwig Van, oh, my droogies."
What a sweet surprise to fine this Symphony — the whole symphony — as a selection on this Thursday afternoon. Like a summer storm with all its freshness and cooling rain. Then to follow with Eleanor Rigby? My friends and I think RP provides genius musical mixology. 

RP What a station!!!!!!!!!!
Who gave this a one? Really? {#Stupid}
Many comments on this board lament that some song is 30 years old and it "just isn't holding up very well"
This is 206 years old and holding up just fine in my book! 
Now this is Irony to the extreme have been listening to classical music all day 12 hours ( BBC Radio 3 UK ) so I thought I would have a change and come to RP I had to double check I was at RP .:-) ..
Gave it a 5 and another 5
Bill,  please either play the whole thing, or follow the first movement with a respectable pause.

Kids these days.... 
Holy crap.
I love Beethoven.  Especially this piece. It reminds me of when I was a wee girl and my dad used to take me to classical music concerts :)
Not my taste!
 zenhead wrote:
Brilliant segue - SRV doing "Pipeline," into Beethoven. I bet those two are rippin' it up in rock and roll heaven.
 

 
yet again! {#Yes}
I remember bringing ELO home and playing it for my parents to see their reaction, hoping to first bewilder them with my acquired taste and then pull them into my music (and perhaps add a little shock when Beethoven rolled over). I also pumped the volume up for the demonstration since that was a frequent complaint when my music was playing. They didn't seem to mind the Beethoven part too much.  I can't really remember the rest other than my dad referring to the usual "buncha' noise".{#Cheesygrin}
When will this be followed by A Fifth of Beethoven? {#Cheers}
Discovered a while ago the same Beethoven symphonies conducted by Nikolaus Harnoncourt.  While I've been a fan of Karajan for years, I must that Harnoncourt versions are really getting to me. Slightly lighter, maybe less german :)  It is still a 10 of course.
A pupil of Mozart's .it does not surprise me.
One of my favorite movies is Immortal Beloved starring Gary Oldman as Beethoven.  This song makes me picture the movie and what scene played out:-)
Remember Bugs Bunn y?
 mazzy wrote:

I'm dating myself, sorry!

from wikipedia:
Electric Light Orchestra's (ELO) elaborate eight-minute reworking of "Roll Over Beethoven", appearing on the album ELO 2 in 1973, included an opening musical quote from Beethoven's Fifth Symphony and clever interpolations of material from the symphony's first movement into Berry's song.

Heard the opening movement and thought ELO

 
Yep, same here. I loved Roll Over Beethoven back in the day, and it would be a fitting segue to this original, IMO.
„So pocht das Schicksal an die Pforte
 gjeeg wrote:
huh?
 
I'm dating myself, sorry!

from wikipedia:
Electric Light Orchestra's (ELO) elaborate eight-minute reworking of "Roll Over Beethoven", appearing on the album ELO 2 in 1973, included an opening musical quote from Beethoven's Fifth Symphony and clever interpolations of material from the symphony's first movement into Berry's song.

Heard the opening movement and thought ELO
Von Karajan, THE maestro conducting Beethoven
Stevie Ray playing a surf masterpiece

Two sublime artists absolutely at the top of their games. This is what it's all about.
I love hearing classical mixed in with the other selections on RP! This reminds me where our current music came from and always makes me feel great! Encore!
huh?
I thought for sure this was ELO {#Lol}
Awesome, but lower the volume range compression on this one.  Single instruments should not be as loud as the entire orchestra!{#Clap}
Wonderful change of pace! Thanks for that!
My father was almost deaf.  I can still picture him with his head in his hands, jammed up against a cheap phonograph speaker.  I do miss that fellow.
 
Late 18th Century rock-n-ROLL!  It rocked then.  And it rocks now.  {#Cheers}

Wonder how much of today's music will hold up in similar fashion, eh? 

Highlow
American Net'Zen
Rock strong, Bill.  I smile every time I hear this recording.
Brilliant segue - SRV doing "Pipeline," into Beethoven. I bet those two are rippin' it up in rock and roll heaven.
 
{#Clap}
Strong{#Crown}
 michaelc wrote:
this is the current list 
Air — Talisman
Younger Brother — Train
Pink Floyd — Time
Beethoven — Symphony No.5

this is why I listen to RP

  .............and me - Bill gets a 10

oh please play the whole thing....