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Emerson, Lake & Palmer — From The Beginning
Album: Trilogy
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Released: 1972
Length: 4:10
Plays (last 30 days): 2
There might have been things I missed
But don't be unkind
It don't mean I'm blind
Perhaps there's a thing or two

I think of lying in bed
I shouldn't have said
But there it is

You see it's all clear
You were meant to be here
From the beginning

Maybe I might have changed
And not been so cruel
Not been such a fool
Whatever was done is done
I just can't recall
It doesn't matter at all

You see it's all clear
You were meant to be here
From the beginning
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I just had to stop and listen to this, it's one of those rare tunes that carry you away to some other place
 below72 wrote:
     Over the years, when I've heard this tune on RP I have always reviewed the new comments.  And it seems most everyone expresses some sentiment about a time gone by with references to the guitar line.  No doubt, it is fantastic.  Several acoustics and a twelve string created a masterpiece.  But note...
     Very few folks have ever commented on maybe one of the best bass lines ever written.  
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number, My Cheri Amour, What's Goin' On, Little Help From My Friends, Signed, Sealed, Delivered...(hell then, everything that ever came out of Motown for that matter)...I could go on.
     In short, if there is a tune you really like, go back and pick out the bass line.  I would bet that bass chart is chunky, moving sweet tones, of pure dynamics and emotion.  
Greg had that in spades.
Lastly....long live the P-Bass.  If you are truly a player, you own at least one. You know what mean!


 
Funny that you're mentioning that because I've always believed the bass is actually the most important instrument in a band. Take any planetary hit in history, it's always seated on a great bass line. The bassist is often the only discrete guy who's clean and able to hold the band together. The responsibility is huge; one single wrong note and the whole song is wasted.
My Favorite Art Rock Album
.  Listen to their rendition of Copeland's 'Hoedown'  
     Over the years, when I've heard this tune on RP I have always reviewed the new comments.  And it seems most everyone expresses some sentiment about a time gone by with references to the guitar line.  No doubt, it is fantastic.  Several acoustics and a twelve string created a masterpiece.  But note...
     Very few folks have ever commented on maybe one of the best bass lines ever written.  
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number, My Cheri Amour, What's Goin' On, Little Help From My Friends, Signed, Sealed, Delivered...(hell then, everything that ever came out of Motown for that matter)...I could go on.
     In short, if there is a tune you really like, go back and pick out the bass line.  I would bet that bass chart is chunky, moving sweet tones, of pure dynamics and emotion.  
Greg had that in spades.
Lastly....long live the P-Bass.  If you are truly a player, you own at least one. You know what mean!

such good music. Seems like a lost time now. What can I say about what mainstream shoves down our throats .. gag .. gag ... this is why I love and support RP .. they take me places :)
 countryrds wrote:
Magic song for a magic time...
 
 Stephen_Phillips wrote:
 Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time.  For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
 
Maybe part of what now makes it (seem like) a magic time was that we were all 45 years younger.
Super cool !
Top, pour bosser calmement... {#Wink}
 Lazarus wrote:

 
I'm right there with y'all...hell I'm gonna go 9→10 finally!  Hope you've tipped your maids with all the partying in that damned room of yours {#Cheesygrin} PEACE and Long Live RP!!

*I don't remember the Siamese triplets album cover though...how could that be?  Kinda freaky....*

 Steely_D wrote:
It's 1977 or so, and me and a few college buddies are lying on our back on the top of the LSU Indian Mounds on a warm Louisiana evening. I might have been wearing my T-shirt with the Trilogy album cover.

One of the guys picks up his guitar and plays this perfectly as we stare at the stars overhead. It was so sad as the moment ended. Moments like that are what makes life special.
 
Cool post, S_D.
I too had the Trilogy t-shirt!
 Stephen_Phillips wrote:

Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time.  For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.

 
It's 1977 or so, and me and a few college buddies are lying on our back on the top of the LSU Indian Mounds on a warm Louisiana evening. I might have been wearing my T-shirt with the Trilogy album cover.

One of the guys picks up his guitar and plays this perfectly as we stare at the stars overhead. It was so sad as the moment ended. Moments like that are what makes life special.


 earthbased wrote:
Sounded great on the FLAC feed.   Thanks much for the FLAC feed.   Listening from Logitech Media Server Community Edition 7.9.1 with RadioParadise FLAC Plugin.

 
True that!  This is FLACing awesome!  This is one of the first tunes I remember hearing as a kid, thanks to my dad, that sounded great to my young ears, and then eventually the meaning of the lyrics became clear to me.  I'm at a 9 and so close to going full 10 on it.  Such a great, clear sound that seems to match the lyrical content perfectly.  LONG LIVE RP!!
Sounded great on the FLAC feed.   Thanks much for the FLAC feed.   Listening from Logitech Media Server Community Edition 7.9.1 with RadioParadise FLAC Plugin.
Perhaps there's a thing or two
I think of lying in bed
I shouldn't have said
. . . But there it is

Always loved those simple but poignant lyrics.

 Stephen_Phillips wrote:

Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time.  For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.

 
I agree, but I see it as a window not a door.  A window into what can be.  It is still there, we have just lost our way. 
 Stephen_Phillips wrote:

Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time.  For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.

 
That's a pertinent observation, Stephen. I'd agree. I don't know but I get the feeling that it's almost all been done now.
 countryrds wrote:
Magic song for a magic time...

 
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time.  For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
Magic song for a magic time...
Best.Damn.Song.Ever.  RIP, Greg.
 jbuhl wrote:
 
Then somebody else wrote:
" Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right? I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it."
I have had a couple friend parents end themselves in the last 5 years.  Just didn't want to deal with the final stages of old age.  One guy was a pilot.  Wife died, got to old to fly, perfectly good health otherwise.  Just got to old to do what he wanted to do and his life long buddy was gone.

 

 
I'm not getting older. It's the people around me that are getting younger.
Greg Lake – vocalsbasselectric and acoustic guitars
Back in the day when I lived in a house full of guitars and had assorted friends whose homes were also full of guitars (*sigh* all those years ago) I was shown how to play this in about 10 minutes. "First play this little bend and riff like this, then these few simple to do chords go like this, then watch my fingers as I pluck"...easier done than said. It was a lotta fun and was no real task to learn at all. Very cool.
Started listening to ELP when I found out Lake went from King Crimson to ELP.

I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP.  I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.  

We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.

I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.  

But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.

It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.

 
Such a beautiful piece of music...........
Just wonderful!
 fredriley wrote:

 I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
  
Then somebody else wrote:
" Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right? I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it."


I have had a couple friend parents end themselves in the last 5 years.  Just didn't want to deal with the final stages of old age.  One guy was a pilot.  Wife died, got to old to fly, perfectly good health otherwise.  Just got to old to do what he wanted to do and his life long buddy was gone.

 
{#Hearteyes}
Probably Greg's best song from his ELP years.
R.I.P.
RIP Greg Lake
 fredriley wrote:

 I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
 
 Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right?

I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it.
 fredhatman wrote:

Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.

 
Sorry, I'm new on here... above comment was meant for colorado john.
 coloradojohn wrote:
Priceless and precious!  Overplayed in its day, but still sounding awesome!
Fall of 1979, I recall driving far to drop in and pay a visit to a gal from school I had a crush on who worked at a place called Tiger Records, and just after I had gotten my hopes raised when she praised and raved about my latest concert photos of Rush, The Who and Kansas, my heart was cracked wide open when this song came over the store sound system, because she sighed and rolled her eyes, "Greg Lake...oh, God...what a dream he is..." I saw it in her eyes, heard it in her voice, saw it in her posture — and gave up and left. Was I jealous of his infinite star power, beyond all reason or logic? I was a teenager — of course I was. I got into my '70 Cutlass, cranked up April Wine's I Like to Rock, and hauled ass to buy beer and round up some drinking buddies...alas, Same As It Ever Was, From the Beginning!

 
Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.
 fatcatjb wrote:

what a great story!

 
Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.
I always liked this one.  I saw EL&P in Ft Worth in 1972 I think.  It was a stupid loud concert, my ears were ringing for hours afterwards.  I attribute my present tinnitus in part to that concert.  Well, that and a lifetime of loud cars and loud women.
 coloradojohn wrote:
Priceless and precious!  Overplayed in its day, but still sounding awesome!
Fall of 1979, I recall driving far to drop in and pay a visit to a gal from school I had a crush on who worked at a place called Tiger Records, and just after I had gotten my hopes raised when she praised and raved about my latest concert photos of Rush, The Who and Kansas, my heart was cracked wide open when this song came over the store sound system, because she sighed and rolled her eyes, "Greg Lake...oh, God...what a dream he is..." I saw it in her eyes, heard it in her voice, saw it in her posture — and gave up and left. Was I jealous of his infinite star power, beyond all reason or logic? I was a teenager — of course I was. I got into my '70 Cutlass, cranked up April Wine's I Like to Rock, and hauled ass to buy beer and round up some drinking buddies...alas, Same As It Ever Was, From the Beginning!

 
what a great story!
Exceptional recording of a great song.
ELP are definitely an acquired taste, but this is different. There's something about it that means it always comes back into my head an hour or two after hearing it.
 fredriley wrote:

Yep, I'll second that. I also worshipped ELP and Keith Emerson, and the group was the only musical taste of mine to which my Dad approved as Emerson was a classically-trained pianist. I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.

ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.

 
Beautiful but sad song. Even more after reading your comment.I was once a big ELP-fan too.
 On_The_Beach wrote:
I worshipped at the alter of ELP back in highschool.
So sad to hear about Keith's passing, especially in light of the way it happened.
R.I.P.

https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md78ka29Sn1rglgxzo1_400.jpg

 
Yep, I'll second that. I also worshipped ELP and Keith Emerson, and the group was the only musical taste of mine to which my Dad approved as Emerson was a classically-trained pianist. I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.

ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
I worshipped at the altar of ELP back in highschool.
So sad to hear about Keith's passing, especially in light of the way it happened.
R.I.P.

https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md78ka29Sn1rglgxzo1_400.jpg
ELP!  Love this (and them) back in the day.  And some of their stuff still resonates today.  This is one of 'em....

Highlow
American Net'Zen
What an awesome fracking tune! <3 
Yay! psd away from Sting and I get this beauty so cool man : )
Such a groovy tune. It's been a long time 
Teen-Age life never come back
Awesome tune!
 coloradojohn wrote:
Priceless and precious!  Overplayed in its day, but still sounding awesome!
Fall of 1979, I recall driving far to drop in and pay a visit to a gal from school I had a crush on who worked at a place called Tiger Records, and just after I had gotten my hopes raised when she praised and raved about my latest concert photos of Rush, The Who and Kansas, my heart was cracked wide open when this song came over the store sound system, because she sighed and rolled her eyes, "Greg Lake...oh, God...what a dream he is..." I saw it in her eyes, heard it in her voice, saw it in her posture — and gave up and left. Was I jealous of his infinite star power, beyond all reason or logic? I was a teenager — of course I was. I got into my '70 Cutlass, cranked up April Wine's I Like to Rock, and hauled ass to buy beer and round up some drinking buddies...alas, Same As It Ever Was, From the Beginning!

 
{#Clap}
Priceless and precious!  Overplayed in its day, but still sounding awesome!
Fall of 1979, I recall driving far to drop in and pay a visit to a gal from school I had a crush on who worked at a place called Tiger Records, and just after I had gotten my hopes raised when she praised and raved about my latest concert photos of Rush, The Who and Kansas, my heart was cracked wide open when this song came over the store sound system, because she sighed and rolled her eyes, "Greg Lake...oh, God...what a dream he is..." I saw it in her eyes, heard it in her voice, saw it in her posture — and gave up and left. Was I jealous of his infinite star power, beyond all reason or logic? I was a teenager — of course I was. I got into my '70 Cutlass, cranked up April Wine's I Like to Rock, and hauled ass to buy beer and round up some drinking buddies...alas, Same As It Ever Was, From the Beginning!
another one of my favorite orange sunshine moments
What a fine song of ELP...
 On_The_Beach wrote:
Greg Lake's finest moment . . . although that first King Crimson album was pretty sweet.

 
"I Talk to the Wind" from "In the Court of the Crimson King" is an awesome song that is timeless.
Greg Lake's finest moment . . . although that first King Crimson album was pretty sweet.
 dw wrote:
The waaaay back machine again. I love this!

 
Adolescent memories of Summertime, cycling to the beach

a simpler time!

Thanks for this!
{#Bounce}I feel very fortunate to have seen them in Detroit back in the day, STILL one of my fondest memories
The waaaay back machine again. I love this!
ELO smooth. 
 Bert7 wrote:
They can light up your heart and blow your mind...

 
Yep. And vice versa.
Lake is a very under rated vocalist.
They can light up your heart and blow your mind...
Loved it back then when it came out, and it is still one of my favorites.
 Foot wrote:
Marginal then, marginal now...

 
Brilliant then, brilliant now...
 lemmoth wrote:

That's because the keyboard solo is understated and doesn't get in the way of the song - like Emerson usually does.

 
Laughing at this comment... a bit harsh but pretty dead on too.
 Stingray wrote:

Can hardly believe this is ELP.

 

GORGEOUS!!



 
That's because the keyboard solo is understated and doesn't get in the way of the song - like Emerson usually does.
One of their best.  More Lake and Palmer and less Emerson was alwas better.

loved it in 1972 when I was madly in love, love it now..


Marginal then, marginal now...
Fantastic!  This strong piece always carries me spiritually, cool set DJ  Peace and Love
Yeah, man.  A masterpiece.

Everybody in my mushrooming multitude of churches be dancing buck ass naked all over the world...  love this song from the get-go...  love sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll...

Can hardly believe this is ELP.

 

GORGEOUS!!


grande!!
{#Notworthy} 
 Cynaera wrote:
This song is so much a part of my life - I love it ridiculously!  {#Music}{#Meditate}{#Sunny}
 

Miss you so much, Cynaera...

love this song...
 
 4merdj wrote:
One of the finest tracks from EL&P (musically and lyrically). Cheers! {#Cheers}

 
Hear, hear! {#Cheers}
One of the finest tracks from EL&P (musically and lyrically). Cheers! {#Cheers}
One single album, the selftitled one, and this band became a cult band.
 jadewahoo wrote:
Why, oh why.... how could I?!... have rated this song a 9?
Divine attributes woven lyrically, musically... a ten, absolutely!
10. Done. 
 
I gave it a 10 the first time I heard it back in the 70's.  {#Music}
Why, oh why.... how could I?!... have rated this song a 9?
Divine attributes woven lyrically, musically... a ten, absolutely!
10. Done. 
 ScottishWillie wrote:

I liked this track and when I logged into the site to see who it was I was horrified to discover it was ELP. Bill if you only introduced tunes like a proper DJ I would have known it was ELP and not allowed myself to like it. What’s the world coming to when your own life long prejudices let you down.

 

a better place...
This sounds just fantastic for its time
Solo! Take it R2!
And...peaking!
This is one of those, "I can name that tune in two notes!"  Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is THAT good.
Love the song, but the 3 heads on one body cover art always kinda creeped me out.
 anotherlistener wrote:


"GLENMORDEN"???  No such Scotch exists.
 



It's all about perception, and this song is as equally celestial as a wanting for scotch that is out of this world.
 Cynaera wrote:

ELP vs. Phish? Oh, geez. Glad you made the right decision. What were you drinking at the time? I think a well-built Guinness trumps tequila. A single-malt scotch (Glenmorden) knocks it out of the ballpark.  I love this song. I love ELP - more lately, as I get older...

 

"GLENMORDEN"???  No such Scotch exists.
Spent many high school days doing homework and listening to this (and other ELP) on headphones.  Cranked.  Still great music and a fun connection to my youth.

I liked this track and when I logged into the site to see who it was I was horrified to discover it was ELP. Bill if you only introduced tunes like a proper DJ I would have known it was ELP and not allowed myself to like it. What’s the world coming to when your own life long prejudices let you down.


 floydoftherocks wrote:
timeless.. less adventurous than alot of their stuff but totally badass.. sounds alot like 'still.. you turn me on'

i had this drunken debate years ago over whether ELP or Phish was better.. (this was in '98, i think). i still say ELP. timeless.
 
ELP vs. Phish? Oh, geez. Glad you made the right decision. What were you drinking at the time? I think a well-built Guinness trumps tequila. A single-malt scotch (Glenmorden) knocks it out of the ballpark.  I love this song. I love ELP - more lately, as I get older...

 WonderLizard wrote:

Since Kanye can't sing a lick, this is a positive development. BTW, IMHO Lake has been badly underrated as a musician. His bass on this song is mesmerizing.

 
Greg Lake's abilities shouldn't be overlooked.  His vocals and bass with King Crimson are outstanding, and his work with ELP was no less stellar.  Maybe you don't like the material, but you can't deny the talent.

Nice!
 Propayne wrote:
Greg Lake sings on the new Kanye West song...
 
Since Kanye can't sing a lick, this is a positive development. BTW, IMHO Lake has been badly underrated as a musician. His bass on this song is mesmerizing.

timeless.. less adventurous than alot of their stuff but totally badass.. sounds alot like 'still.. you turn me on'

i had this drunken debate years ago over whether ELP or Phish was better.. (this was in '98, i think). i still say ELP. timeless.
Totally forgotten about most of the ELP I used to listen to as a young teenager!  Thank you so much for reminding how good some of it was.  I agree with below, timeless.
For once, no negative comments.
What a beautiful song. And timeless.
Greg Lake sings on the new Kanye West song...
DITTO!
Thank you sooo much for playing this  {#Bounce}
This song is so much a part of my life - I love it ridiculously!  {#Music}{#Meditate}{#Sunny}
Thank you!! Sitting in the basement with the friends playing this song on our guitars instead of going to class... . Wonderful memories.
 DaveInVA wrote:
Great song from a great band! I saw them in Chitcago at Soldiers Field during their Works tour. Heart played ahead of them and was booed off the stage after just a couple songs. Then there was no music for the next 2 hours. Was a fantastic concert when ELP finally played. They had the drum set on a rotating stage. Was on one of the hottest days of the year and people were dropping from heat exhaustion, dehydration etc...
 
Funny, I remember the video for "Fanfare..." and they're in an outdoor stadium playing in the cold and you can see the vapor from their breath...
 Jelani wrote:
I just LOVE this.
 
ditto

I just LOVE this.
Havent heared this since years! Very cool stuff!
I am instantly transported back to age 17, lying on the bedroom floor after school, listening to this with big, black 1970s-style headphones...the way the sound crossed from one side of my head to the other.  Two years later, I was at California Jam, hearing them live for the first time.  It's as though no time has passed.

Emerson and Lake are touring, mostly acoustic. Some stories, etc. A little google and you'll see where they are.
Oh man, this is a greeaaat song!!{#Notworthy}
 lemmoth wrote:
Very sweet song.  Lake had a nice voice.

My wife loved these guys so much as a young one that she stole street signs for Lake St.. Emerson Rd. and Palmer Ave. in her home town so she could decorate her room with them.
  I'm telling.


 MartinBremer wrote:
I'm urging for some Karn Evil! Pleeease add this song to your mostly beautiful list!
 
I agree with both ideas.


I've just been transported back in high school.  {#Music}  {#Meditate}
trilogy and ELP = solid 10!


This last weekend I got a hair up ther and googled ELP Califorinia Jam (I was there) and I was very pleaded the whole set was there. I sat at my PC for 59 min watching. Man they were awesome in there youth. Plus there were many other live performances listed.

A few years ago I picked up a 5.1 MLP version of BSS what an incredible recording.

Anyway, I love this song...thanks Bill


Very sweet song.  Lake had a nice voice.

My wife loved these guys so much as a young one that she stole street signs for Lake St.. Emerson Rd. and Palmer Ave. in her home town so she could decorate her room with them.
This was on the first mixed tape I ever received from a boy.
Thanks Ken! {#Sunny}

 bluedot wrote:
I saw these guys in Long Beach sometime in the early 70's on a double bill with Mahavishu Orchestra. All I remember from that night is an image in my head of Keith Emerson pushing his B3 organ down on the floor and stabbing it with a knife while playing some especially intense psychedelic bit.  Or something.  Oh yeah, I also remember that my ears were ringing for a whole week afterwards.  lol
 
Sounds great; they always put on a wild live show. I saw the Brain Salad Surgery Tour circa '73. Amazing. Yes, it was pompous and overblown; that's why we went!


I saw these guys in Long Beach sometime in the early 70's on a double bill with Mahavishu Orchestra. All I remember from that night is an image in my head of Keith Emerson pushing his B3 organ down on the floor and stabbing it with a knife while playing some especially intense psychedelic bit.  Or something.  Oh yeah, I also remember that my ears were ringing for a whole week afterwards.  lol

 hippiechick wrote:
imo, their talent has been mostly underestimated. While I agree that some of their tunes haven't aged well, some of them could be considered modern classical music.

And this is such a favorite.
 


Yes, this is a great song...  love it...




Great song from a great band! I saw them in Chitcago at Soldiers Field during their Works tour. Heart played ahead of them and was booed off the stage after just a couple songs. Then there was no music for the next 2 hours. Was a fantastic concert when ELP finally played. They had the drum set on a rotating stage. Was on one of the hottest days of the year and people were dropping from heat exhaustion, dehydration etc...

imo, their talent has been mostly underestimated. While I agree that some of their tunes haven't aged well, some of them could be considered modern classical music.

And this is such a favorite.