The Republic Tigers — Buildings and Mountains
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we've been waiting all our lives
for things we've always had
but have no eyes to see
somethin' new is going to happen
the most natural thing
but nothin' we'd expect
CHORUS:
all these buildings and mountains
slowly they'll arise
before our eyes
how do cities understand
we drink our wine and wonder
why we're really here
what's the point of even asking
you take the good and bad
and make the best of it
CHORUS (x2)
have you watched the cities move
does nature fall before
this age of industry
for today I'll let it go
you've been good to me
have I been good to you
CHORUS (x2)
for things we've always had
but have no eyes to see
somethin' new is going to happen
the most natural thing
but nothin' we'd expect
CHORUS:
all these buildings and mountains
slowly they'll arise
before our eyes
how do cities understand
we drink our wine and wonder
why we're really here
what's the point of even asking
you take the good and bad
and make the best of it
CHORUS (x2)
have you watched the cities move
does nature fall before
this age of industry
for today I'll let it go
you've been good to me
have I been good to you
CHORUS (x2)
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I like this song because it's a Radio Paradise classic... it takes me back to the playlists of the early 2010s.
Also like the commenter below I wonder what happened to this band.
i really like this.
i wonder whatever happened to them.
i wonder whatever happened to them.
zair99 wrote:
.....As for the sound, they have a hint of that same warm Republic Tigers flavor, but now it's couched in copious amounts of smeary, vasoline-covered synth-pop that combines to make a sound that just doesn't quite do it for me (and I like synth pop!).
........
I love some synth pop and as far as I am concerned, the haters can go do unspeakable things to themselves.
This is so good! Big shame, these dudes could never follow up.
.....As for the sound, they have a hint of that same warm Republic Tigers flavor, but now it's couched in copious amounts of smeary, vasoline-covered synth-pop that combines to make a sound that just doesn't quite do it for me (and I like synth pop!).
........
I love some synth pop and as far as I am concerned, the haters can go do unspeakable things to themselves.
This is so good! Big shame, these dudes could never follow up.
10 for the mix down.
Thanks zair99.
Agree. Miracle Maze is OK but not TRT.
Agree. Miracle Maze is OK but not TRT.
westslope wrote:
Any updates on Jaenki?
They've been releasing the occasional single,and an EP from 2016, but so far no proper album. As for the sound, they have a hint of that same warm Republic Tigers flavor, but now it's couched in copious amounts of smeary, vasoline-covered synth-pop that combines to make a sound that just doesn't quite do it for me (and I like synth pop!).
My favorite is Miracle Maze, and it's really not half bad! I'll definitely be having a listen to their album if one comes, but Republic Tigers these guys ain't.
Any updates on Jaenki?
They've been releasing the occasional single,and an EP from 2016, but so far no proper album. As for the sound, they have a hint of that same warm Republic Tigers flavor, but now it's couched in copious amounts of smeary, vasoline-covered synth-pop that combines to make a sound that just doesn't quite do it for me (and I like synth pop!).
My favorite is Miracle Maze, and it's really not half bad! I'll definitely be having a listen to their album if one comes, but Republic Tigers these guys ain't.
tockpeas wrote:
Any updates on Jaenki?
Actually just saw where their frontman (Kenn Jankowski) has another group: Jaenki. Listening now ... promising.
Any updates on Jaenki?
My favourite one CD hit band discovery on RP.
Actually just saw where their frontman (Kenn Jankowski) has another group: Jaenki. Listening now ... promising.
LuvWilloughby wrote:
Mine too. Really great band.
I'll 3rd that. Really wish they'd get on with releasing some new music ...
Mine too. Really great band.
I'll 3rd that. Really wish they'd get on with releasing some new music ...
jocelynsart wrote:
Mine too. Really great band.
one of my favourite discoveries through RP is this band
Mine too. Really great band.
one of my favourite discoveries through RP is this band
Sounds good. Waiting for their next album .... 
Something good came out of Kansas City MO!
There's been so much tragedy from that region recently.
There's been so much tragedy from that region recently.
haretic wrote:
Well, I'd be surprised if we do 'save' the USA. After all we (Europe) set up the USA and Canada from the outset to be as it is now. It has turned out exactly as planned I'd say (If I was speaking as a Rothschild or any of the core Euro families that is).
So yes, the only way to understand how things are in relation to the Corporatocracy is to turn off the media that it controls, both TV and radio. Do NOT read any mainstream newspapers or magazines and obtain all your information from a wide selection of independent news outlets that will collectively give you the truth if you care to put in the time.
Hey Fred, you know, sometimes it seems to me that Europe may save us all from the corpocracy that the USA has become, with Canada fast on its heels. Is this an overly optimistic fantasy? I'm asking you because I have given up watching or listening to "the news." you can tell me to "push off" if you want. 
Well, I'd be surprised if we do 'save' the USA. After all we (Europe) set up the USA and Canada from the outset to be as it is now. It has turned out exactly as planned I'd say (If I was speaking as a Rothschild or any of the core Euro families that is).
So yes, the only way to understand how things are in relation to the Corporatocracy is to turn off the media that it controls, both TV and radio. Do NOT read any mainstream newspapers or magazines and obtain all your information from a wide selection of independent news outlets that will collectively give you the truth if you care to put in the time.
oldsaxon wrote:
really?
I can definitely see that. The sound is dissimilar, but the style is very close.
really?
I can definitely see that. The sound is dissimilar, but the style is very close.
KaraokeVox wrote:
really?
the vocals intertwined with the orchestral synth stuff reminds me of ELO.
really?
the vocals intertwined with the orchestral synth stuff reminds me of ELO.
fredriley wrote:
Hey Fred, you know, sometimes it seems to me that Europe may save us all from the corpocracy that the USA has become, with Canada fast on its heels. Is this an overly optimistic fantasy? I'm asking you because I have given up watching or listening to "the news." you can tell me to "push off" if you want.
(replying to rdo):
In the US of A, maybe, but this side of the Pond you'd be an absolutely barking reactionary. Even the Thatcherites over here would consider you to be a bit de trop. It's good to read your contributions, and those of your even more barking compatriots, to remind me of just how far to the Right US politics are, compared to the rest of the civilised world. Call yourself a "liberal" over here and you'd have UK liberals (themselves pretty Thatcherite these days) shaking their bearded heads in disbelief and wonder.
In the US of A, maybe, but this side of the Pond you'd be an absolutely barking reactionary. Even the Thatcherites over here would consider you to be a bit de trop. It's good to read your contributions, and those of your even more barking compatriots, to remind me of just how far to the Right US politics are, compared to the rest of the civilised world. Call yourself a "liberal" over here and you'd have UK liberals (themselves pretty Thatcherite these days) shaking their bearded heads in disbelief and wonder.
Hey Fred, you know, sometimes it seems to me that Europe may save us all from the corpocracy that the USA has become, with Canada fast on its heels. Is this an overly optimistic fantasy? I'm asking you because I have given up watching or listening to "the news." you can tell me to "push off" if you want.
Giladoc wrote:
Lauriea wrote:
nice vib overall
fredriley wrote:
In the US of A, maybe, but this side of the Pond you'd be an absolutely barking reactionary. Even the Thatcherites over here would consider you to be a bit de trop. It's good to read your contributions, and those of your even more barking compatriots, to remind me of just how far to the Right US politics are, compared to the rest of the civilised world. Call yourself a "liberal" over here and you'd have UK liberals (themselves pretty Thatcherite these days) shaking their bearded heads in disbelief and wonder.
heh...careful, Fred, he's probably armed.
In the US of A, maybe, but this side of the Pond you'd be an absolutely barking reactionary. Even the Thatcherites over here would consider you to be a bit de trop. It's good to read your contributions, and those of your even more barking compatriots, to remind me of just how far to the Right US politics are, compared to the rest of the civilised world. Call yourself a "liberal" over here and you'd have UK liberals (themselves pretty Thatcherite these days) shaking their bearded heads in disbelief and wonder.
heh...careful, Fred, he's probably armed.
nice vib overall
Well this bounces along nicely
Feels a little like modern Alan Parsons Project, but I dig it.
rdo wrote:
In the US of A, maybe, but this side of the Pond you'd be an absolutely barking reactionary. Even the Thatcherites over here would consider you to be a bit de trop. It's good to read your contributions, and those of your even more barking compatriots, to remind me of just how far to the Right US politics are, compared to the rest of the civilised world. Call yourself a "liberal" over here and you'd have UK liberals (themselves pretty Thatcherite these days) shaking their bearded heads in disbelief and wonder.
I am a liberal, not a conservative.
In the US of A, maybe, but this side of the Pond you'd be an absolutely barking reactionary. Even the Thatcherites over here would consider you to be a bit de trop. It's good to read your contributions, and those of your even more barking compatriots, to remind me of just how far to the Right US politics are, compared to the rest of the civilised world. Call yourself a "liberal" over here and you'd have UK liberals (themselves pretty Thatcherite these days) shaking their bearded heads in disbelief and wonder.
Thanks RP for introducing me to this band. What a catchy tune! Digging it buried deep in the library.
This really makes me want them to hurry up and release their new album! But then they went and fell off the radar! Last I heard they were mixing it, and it was nearly done and that was May 2012, I think. Must have had some serious issues! :(
rdo wrote:
I think we need more diversity of opinion on the board, and not to let it be dominated by the haters. No moderate or conservative person is going to come within one mile of this comment board once they get a whiff of the stuff he (and a few others) posts. It will be an Occupy Wall Street hate fest. OWS represents 1% of the American populace. We need more reach for this board.
rdo, you are living in a fantasy world if you think occupy's only 1% of U.S.
I think we need more diversity of opinion on the board, and not to let it be dominated by the haters. No moderate or conservative person is going to come within one mile of this comment board once they get a whiff of the stuff he (and a few others) posts. It will be an Occupy Wall Street hate fest. OWS represents 1% of the American populace. We need more reach for this board.
rdo, you are living in a fantasy world if you think occupy's only 1% of U.S.
Tippster wrote:
Heh. Seems I hear it every time I tune in. It's got a good hook & groove, but I'm not getting why it's in such heavy rotation.
I think I need to meet RDO for a beer.
I think we need more diversity of opinion on the board, and not to let it be dominated by the haters. No moderate or conservative person is going to come within one mile of this comment board once they get a whiff of the stuff he (and a few others) posts. It will be an Occupy Wall Street hate fest. OWS represents 1% of the American populace. We need more reach for this board.
Heh. Seems I hear it every time I tune in. It's got a good hook & groove, but I'm not getting why it's in such heavy rotation.
I think I need to meet RDO for a beer.
I think we need more diversity of opinion on the board, and not to let it be dominated by the haters. No moderate or conservative person is going to come within one mile of this comment board once they get a whiff of the stuff he (and a few others) posts. It will be an Occupy Wall Street hate fest. OWS represents 1% of the American populace. We need more reach for this board.
mkinnan wrote:
Heh. Seems I hear it every time I tune in. It's got a good hook & groove, but I'm not getting why it's in such heavy rotation.
I think I need to meet RDO for a beer.
You should play this song every day. Five times a week is not enough.
Heh. Seems I hear it every time I tune in. It's got a good hook & groove, but I'm not getting why it's in such heavy rotation.
I think I need to meet RDO for a beer.
1wolfy wrote:
I take it your lame barb "oh magic one" is some sort of attempt at an insult which is escaping me. Is that some way of calling me an air hog or arrogant? I'm neither. I have opinions, so do you. You are welcome and encouraged to post yours. Take some time and think about what you want to say. Stop posting drivel like this. As for my good friend Westslope, I do think he is pretty funny at times, and I have no problem with him posting hate. Does he deny he is a hater? Let's hear what he has to say about that. As for reading his comments. I have been reading them for 6 years. Every one.
"Manly Yes, but I like him too" . Rather amazing what you claim to depict about Slope from a few posts..Who knows what you'll be able to tell about me from my posts, 'oh magic one' that you claim to be. Take this brother ; may it serve you well 
yours truly,
Wolfy. rdo wrote:
yours truly,Wolfy. rdo wrote:
I am a liberal, not a conservative.
Westslope, entertaining though he often is, is a foaming-at-the-mouth, anti-American chauvinist demagogue who can kiss my America loving ass. I reject 100% your assertion that I am "sometimes" like you, much less Westlope. You are an Occupy Wall Street type, right? I am not. I am a moderate, and I am trying to do what you purport to do in this post.
I invite everyone to go through our friend Westslope's gems and let them be the judge. I'd be willing to bet money he has already expunged most of his more hateful posts. I like Westslope, he can post all the hatred he wants here. But no one is exempt here from rebuttal. You are merely claiming umbrage under that age old Generation Wuss shield of liberal pieties. I do not play that way.
Yours truly,
RDO - Proud Liberal
I take it your lame barb "oh magic one" is some sort of attempt at an insult which is escaping me. Is that some way of calling me an air hog or arrogant? I'm neither. I have opinions, so do you. You are welcome and encouraged to post yours. Take some time and think about what you want to say. Stop posting drivel like this. As for my good friend Westslope, I do think he is pretty funny at times, and I have no problem with him posting hate. Does he deny he is a hater? Let's hear what he has to say about that. As for reading his comments. I have been reading them for 6 years. Every one.
Thoroughly enjoyable and intriguing song. Thanks for introducing me to this band, RP!
You should play this song every day. Five times a week is not enough.
love.
Nice tune...like the Moody Blues in a certain way
Love this sound......I am always writing down songs from RP that I want to get........truly music loving people.....:)
"Manly Yes, but I like him too" . Rather amazing what you claim to depict about Slope from a few posts..Who knows what you'll be able to tell about me from my posts, 'oh magic one' that you claim to be. Take this brother ; may it serve you well yours truly,
Wolfy. rdo wrote:
yours truly,Wolfy. rdo wrote:
I am a liberal, not a conservative.
Westslope, entertaining though he often is, is a foaming-at-the-mouth, anti-American chauvinist demagogue who can kiss my America loving ass. I reject 100% your assertion that I am "sometimes" like you, much less Westlope. You are an Occupy Wall Street type, right? I am not. I am a moderate, and I am trying to do what you purport to do in this post.
I invite everyone to go through our friend Westslope's gems and let them be the judge. I'd be willing to bet money he has already expunged most of his more hateful posts. I like Westslope, he can post all the hatred he wants here. But no one is exempt here from rebuttal. You are merely claiming umbrage under that age old Generation Wuss shield of liberal pieties. I do not play that way.
Yours truly,
RDO - Proud Liberal
Love this song. Love, love, love this song.
..i'd like to interrupt the diatribing to say: i really, Really like this tune..8 >> 9..
..and now, back to your previously scheduled flame war..
..and now, back to your previously scheduled flame war..
rdo wrote:
What is this Westslope hate I am hearing about?
Slope is one of my best RP buddies. He's a great guy.
You guys make me sad.
I am a liberal, not a conservative.
Westslope, entertaining though he often is, is a foaming-at-the-mouth, anti-American chauvinist demagogue who can kiss my America loving ass. I reject 100% your assertion that I am "sometimes" like you, much less Westlope. You are an Occupy Wall Street type, right? I am not. I am a moderate, and I am trying to do what you purport to do in this post.
I invite everyone to go through our friend Westslope's gems and let them be the judge. I'd be willing to bet money he has already expunged most of his more hateful posts. I like Westslope, he can post all the hatred he wants here. But no one is exempt here from rebuttal. You are merely claiming umbrage under that age old Generation Wuss shield of liberal pieties. I do not play that way.
Yours truly,
RDO - Proud Liberal
What is this Westslope hate I am hearing about?
Slope is one of my best RP buddies. He's a great guy.
You guys make me sad.
Byronape wrote:
That's more than a bit extreme... I think you are making the typical conservative mistake. People with these scary "progressive" ideas like fairness and concern for the health of the environment are not trying to control anyone. However, limits are placed on personal liberties every day. They are called laws.
You can't kill someone, you can't steal from someone, you can't dump toxic sludge into someone's drinking water. Do you have a problem with these attempts to limit your personal freedoms?
Well, what's wrong with checking the rampant commercialism that tells people that they need bigger houses so they can fill it with more crap they don't need? All that does is create needless waste, promote crime, and generate more toxic sludge from the manufacturing of that crap that they don't need.
Cut the hatred and try to understand someone's viewpoint other than yours. It's people like you (and sometimes me) that makes all the current political divisiveness even worse.
That's more than a bit extreme... I think you are making the typical conservative mistake. People with these scary "progressive" ideas like fairness and concern for the health of the environment are not trying to control anyone. However, limits are placed on personal liberties every day. They are called laws.
You can't kill someone, you can't steal from someone, you can't dump toxic sludge into someone's drinking water. Do you have a problem with these attempts to limit your personal freedoms?
Well, what's wrong with checking the rampant commercialism that tells people that they need bigger houses so they can fill it with more crap they don't need? All that does is create needless waste, promote crime, and generate more toxic sludge from the manufacturing of that crap that they don't need.
Cut the hatred and try to understand someone's viewpoint other than yours. It's people like you (and sometimes me) that makes all the current political divisiveness even worse.
I am a liberal, not a conservative.
Westslope, entertaining though he often is, is a foaming-at-the-mouth, anti-American chauvinist demagogue who can kiss my America loving ass. I reject 100% your assertion that I am "sometimes" like you, much less Westlope. You are an Occupy Wall Street type, right? I am not. I am a moderate, and I am trying to do what you purport to do in this post.
I invite everyone to go through our friend Westslope's gems and let them be the judge. I'd be willing to bet money he has already expunged most of his more hateful posts. I like Westslope, he can post all the hatred he wants here. But no one is exempt here from rebuttal. You are merely claiming umbrage under that age old Generation Wuss shield of liberal pieties. I do not play that way.
Yours truly,
RDO - Proud Liberal
oldsaxon wrote:
I have a wonderful DAC and an amazing valve amp that makes the ACC stream from RP sing to me...I would never have believed a stream off the net would have sounded good, but it does...really good. I almost never listen to the mp3s on my computer as they sound flat and empty...FLAC is better and I am slowly replacing my favourites with FLAC versions but it's a slow and sometimes seemingly impossible project.
I have a pretty darned good DAC too ((X-DACv3) & a tremendous amp (KW500) & I have to confess the RP stream is bloody good, especially for the more casual listening
I have a wonderful DAC and an amazing valve amp that makes the ACC stream from RP sing to me...I would never have believed a stream off the net would have sounded good, but it does...really good. I almost never listen to the mp3s on my computer as they sound flat and empty...FLAC is better and I am slowly replacing my favourites with FLAC versions but it's a slow and sometimes seemingly impossible project.
I have a pretty darned good DAC too ((X-DACv3) & a tremendous amp (KW500) & I have to confess the RP stream is bloody good, especially for the more casual listening
mrtuba9 wrote:
You know, I was riding with a friend this weekend in his '93 Acura that he retrofitted to accommodate his iPod. I had no idea he was a Nirvana, Radiohead, Led Zepplin, Van Halen, et. al. fan. As we rode with the music cranked, I noticed the sound was not what I'm used to hearing on RP via iTunes. Can't really explain it...I know MANY factors went into the differences, but some of the songs just sounded different.
I have a wonderful DAC and an amazing valve amp that makes the ACC stream from RP sing to me...I would never have believed a stream off the net would have sounded good, but it does...really good. I almost never listen to the mp3s on my computer as they sound flat and empty...FLAC is better and I am slowly replacing my favourites with FLAC versions but it's a slow and sometimes seemingly impossible project.
You know, I was riding with a friend this weekend in his '93 Acura that he retrofitted to accommodate his iPod. I had no idea he was a Nirvana, Radiohead, Led Zepplin, Van Halen, et. al. fan. As we rode with the music cranked, I noticed the sound was not what I'm used to hearing on RP via iTunes. Can't really explain it...I know MANY factors went into the differences, but some of the songs just sounded different.
I have a wonderful DAC and an amazing valve amp that makes the ACC stream from RP sing to me...I would never have believed a stream off the net would have sounded good, but it does...really good. I almost never listen to the mp3s on my computer as they sound flat and empty...FLAC is better and I am slowly replacing my favourites with FLAC versions but it's a slow and sometimes seemingly impossible project.
Still sounds remarkably good...hard to believe it's been four years since! and I can't help wondering when, oh, WHEN are we going to hear some new efforts from these gifted cats?
Byronape wrote:
I'm certainly not going to argue with the expert here. I've just heard differences between the audio from the RP stream and what I hear when my wife pulls a song from iTunes. The best example I can think of is Built To Spill - Life's A Dream and Broken Social Scene - Sweetest Kill. Both of those songs I first heard on RP on the 192k stream with the good headphones and loved it. After playing it for the wife, she picked both of them up for her ipod and there is a distinct difference in the depth of the sound. It's almost like the itunes songs have been remastered so there is less range between the high notes and the low notes. It takes a lot of the life out of the song. It got even worse when I burned them onto a cd.
Maybe I need to go into the itunes settings or something. I generally hate Apple and Apple software, so I have not done anything with it yet. As intelligent as my wife is, she couldn't care less about messing with computers and isn't as much as a wanna be audiophile as I am.
You know, I was riding with a friend this weekend in his '93 Acura that he retrofitted to accommodate his iPod. I had no idea he was a Nirvana, Radiohead, Led Zepplin, Van Halen, et. al. fan. As we rode with the music cranked, I noticed the sound was not what I'm used to hearing on RP via iTunes. Can't really explain it...I know MANY factors went into the differences, but some of the songs just sounded different.
I'm certainly not going to argue with the expert here. I've just heard differences between the audio from the RP stream and what I hear when my wife pulls a song from iTunes. The best example I can think of is Built To Spill - Life's A Dream and Broken Social Scene - Sweetest Kill. Both of those songs I first heard on RP on the 192k stream with the good headphones and loved it. After playing it for the wife, she picked both of them up for her ipod and there is a distinct difference in the depth of the sound. It's almost like the itunes songs have been remastered so there is less range between the high notes and the low notes. It takes a lot of the life out of the song. It got even worse when I burned them onto a cd.
Maybe I need to go into the itunes settings or something. I generally hate Apple and Apple software, so I have not done anything with it yet. As intelligent as my wife is, she couldn't care less about messing with computers and isn't as much as a wanna be audiophile as I am.
You know, I was riding with a friend this weekend in his '93 Acura that he retrofitted to accommodate his iPod. I had no idea he was a Nirvana, Radiohead, Led Zepplin, Van Halen, et. al. fan. As we rode with the music cranked, I noticed the sound was not what I'm used to hearing on RP via iTunes. Can't really explain it...I know MANY factors went into the differences, but some of the songs just sounded different.
7 to an 8 !!! Creepin' on up.
BillG wrote:
I'm certainly not going to argue with the expert here. I've just heard differences between the audio from the RP stream and what I hear when my wife pulls a song from iTunes. The best example I can think of is Built To Spill - Life's A Dream and Broken Social Scene - Sweetest Kill. Both of those songs I first heard on RP on the 192k stream with the good headphones and loved it. After playing it for the wife, she picked both of them up for her ipod and there is a distinct difference in the depth of the sound. It's almost like the itunes songs have been remastered so there is less range between the high notes and the low notes. It takes a lot of the life out of the song. It got even worse when I burned them onto a cd.
Maybe I need to go into the itunes settings or something. I generally hate Apple and Apple software, so I have not done anything with it yet. As intelligent as my wife is, she couldn't care less about messing with computers and isn't as much as a wanna be audiophile as I am.
iTunes files are 256k AAC. I doubt you could tell them from a CD in a double-blind test. The big problem these days is not bit-loss compression (the conversion to a lossy file format like MP3 or AAC), which can be quite transparent when done correctly. Rather it's *dynamic range* compression — the leveling off of peaks to achieve greater sonic density, i.e. perceived loudness. This generally happens during the final mastering phase of a recording, and affects all digital sources equally.
I'm certainly not going to argue with the expert here. I've just heard differences between the audio from the RP stream and what I hear when my wife pulls a song from iTunes. The best example I can think of is Built To Spill - Life's A Dream and Broken Social Scene - Sweetest Kill. Both of those songs I first heard on RP on the 192k stream with the good headphones and loved it. After playing it for the wife, she picked both of them up for her ipod and there is a distinct difference in the depth of the sound. It's almost like the itunes songs have been remastered so there is less range between the high notes and the low notes. It takes a lot of the life out of the song. It got even worse when I burned them onto a cd.
Maybe I need to go into the itunes settings or something. I generally hate Apple and Apple software, so I have not done anything with it yet. As intelligent as my wife is, she couldn't care less about messing with computers and isn't as much as a wanna be audiophile as I am.
I have shared this song (band) 
with everyone since hearing first on RP. Great production, full...robust! 8 to 9. 
Byronape wrote:
I got my wife an iPod Touch for Christmas and she loves it. I don't have the heart to tell her that anything she gets from iTunes is going to be so compressed that it will sound like someone screaming into the end of a garden hose. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy my RP with some good headphones and when something really grabs me, I'll get it on cd and rip it with high quality.
I got my wife an iPod Touch for Christmas and she loves it. I don't have the heart to tell her that anything she gets from iTunes is going to be so compressed that it will sound like someone screaming into the end of a garden hose. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy my RP with some good headphones and when something really grabs me, I'll get it on cd and rip it with high quality.
iTunes files are 256k AAC. I doubt you could tell them from a CD in a double-blind test. The big problem these days is not bit-loss compression (the conversion to a lossy file format like MP3 or AAC), which can be quite transparent when done correctly. Rather it's *dynamic range* compression — the leveling off of peaks to achieve greater sonic density, i.e. perceived loudness. This generally happens during the final mastering phase of a recording, and affects all digital sources equally.
Because a highly-compressed modern digital master is unpressable on vinyl, vinyl releases are mastered less aggressively. This difference in mastering style accounts for almost all of the perceived superiority of analog/vinyl vs. digital/CD. Digital files — even well-processed lossy files — can sound just as good as an analog recording. The fact that they don't is the fault of recording engineers, artists, managers, and labels who become enamored of "loudness" at the expense of nuance and/or just aren't very good at what they do.
There are many exceptions to this generalization (Norah Jones's "Come Away With Me" and the most recent Alison Krauss & Union Station recording are two that come to mind). To my ears this recording is not particularly exceptional. It does have quite a bit more dynamic range than most modern rock recordings (especially in the drums) but a lot of the individual tracks in the mix are really squashed.
Probably my favourite group of the last few years... looking forward to the new album when (if?) it ever surfaces!
Nice Big Production!
WonderLizard wrote:
If you haven't gotten the CD or uncompressed file and listened to this on a bona fide audio rig, you don't know what you're missing. My daughter complained that after doing so, I'd spoiled it for her and her iPod. Heh, heh.
I got my wife an iPod Touch for Christmas and she loves it. I don't have the heart to tell her that anything she gets from iTunes is going to be so compressed that it will sound like someone screaming into the end of a garden hose. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy my RP with some good headphones and when something really grabs me, I'll get it on cd and rip it with high quality.
WonderLizard wrote:
When I've enough some of the sameness here, I go to WXPN or KEXP, two excellent on-line stations, or some some cheesy Eastern European dance channel just for the hell of it.Or thecurrent.org
When I've enough some of the sameness here, I go to WXPN or KEXP, two excellent on-line stations, or some some cheesy Eastern European dance channel just for the hell of it.
WonderLizard wrote:
Unless you're Slovakian—then it'll suck the life out of you.
You haven't lived until you've listened to Slovakian DJ patter. 
Unless you're Slovakian—then it'll suck the life out of you.
Picked this up as a free download from I-tunes. Beautiful layers of tuneful noise.
Listening to the rest of this album, might have to get this as a Christmas gift for myself.
Listening to the rest of this album, might have to get this as a Christmas gift for myself.
sirdroseph wrote:
Yes and there are an alarming number of songs, some good, some bad that are overplayed here. What good is it to be an eclectic alternative station when you play the same eclectic, alternative songs over and over?
Yes and there are an alarming number of songs, some good, some bad that are overplayed here. What good is it to be an eclectic alternative station when you play the same eclectic, alternative songs over and over?
Dear sir, I suggest you travel with me to a place 12 kilometers above sea level and then look back down at Radio Paradise.
See? The first thing you notice is "user supported commercial-free radio". That hints at the notion that the DJ might favour songs that are popular with patrons.
Now if these songs are actually popular with listeners why would you not want RP to play them? You can after all, always upload "Me, myself and I" and see if Bill accepts the song.
luckywhitegirl wrote:
Well, yeah, we all experience that here—Bill does not, nor does he pretend to, have endless, non-repetitive set lists. When I've enough some of the sameness here, I go to WXPN or KEXP, two excellent on-line stations, or some some cheesy Eastern European dance channel just for the hell of it. You haven't lived until you've listened to Slovakian DJ patter.
It is a really great song but I feel like it's getting overplayed.
Well, yeah, we all experience that here—Bill does not, nor does he pretend to, have endless, non-repetitive set lists. When I've enough some of the sameness here, I go to WXPN or KEXP, two excellent on-line stations, or some some cheesy Eastern European dance channel just for the hell of it. You haven't lived until you've listened to Slovakian DJ patter.
If you haven't gotten the CD or uncompressed file and listened to this on a bona fide audio rig, you don't know what you're missing. My daughter complained that after doing so, I'd spoiled it for her and her iPod. Heh, heh.
luckywhitegirl wrote:
Yes and there are an alarming number of songs, some good, some bad that are overplayed here. What good is it to be an eclectic alternative station when you play the same eclectic, alternative songs over and over?
It is a really great song but I feel like it's getting overplayed.
Yes and there are an alarming number of songs, some good, some bad that are overplayed here. What good is it to be an eclectic alternative station when you play the same eclectic, alternative songs over and over?
luckywhitegirl wrote:
It is a really great song but I feel like it's getting overplayed.
No. No. No.
Not on your life pale female.
I pray that thou shall not be so lucky.
Maybe that's why Bill just titled it "Buildings and Bridges" for a change
Still a solid 9 for me.
luckywhitegirl wrote:
It is a really great song but I feel like it's getting overplayed.
It is a really great song but I feel like it's getting overplayed.
Excellent !
Gold
rdo wrote:
Even if they did, I am sure you'd still find something to complain about. You would not stop until you had a camera installed in their bedroom and some tube jammed up his nose before your lust for control over the free individual would be satisifed.
That's more than a bit extreme... I think you are making the typical conservative mistake. People with these scary "progressive" ideas like fairness and concern for the health of the environment are not trying to control anyone. However, limits are placed on personal liberties every day. They are called laws.
You can't kill someone, you can't steal from someone, you can't dump toxic sludge into someone's drinking water. Do you have a problem with these attempts to limit your personal freedoms?
Well, what's wrong with checking the rampant commercialism that tells people that they need bigger houses so they can fill it with more crap they don't need? All that does is create needless waste, promote crime, and generate more toxic sludge from the manufacturing of that crap that they don't need.
Cut the hatred and try to understand someone's viewpoint other than yours. It's people like you (and sometimes me) that makes all the current political divisiveness even worse.
Even if they did, I am sure you'd still find something to complain about. You would not stop until you had a camera installed in their bedroom and some tube jammed up his nose before your lust for control over the free individual would be satisifed.
That's more than a bit extreme... I think you are making the typical conservative mistake. People with these scary "progressive" ideas like fairness and concern for the health of the environment are not trying to control anyone. However, limits are placed on personal liberties every day. They are called laws.
You can't kill someone, you can't steal from someone, you can't dump toxic sludge into someone's drinking water. Do you have a problem with these attempts to limit your personal freedoms?
Well, what's wrong with checking the rampant commercialism that tells people that they need bigger houses so they can fill it with more crap they don't need? All that does is create needless waste, promote crime, and generate more toxic sludge from the manufacturing of that crap that they don't need.
Cut the hatred and try to understand someone's viewpoint other than yours. It's people like you (and sometimes me) that makes all the current political divisiveness even worse.
10......
rdo wrote:
Even if they did, I am sure you'd still find something to complain about. You would not stop until you had a camera installed in their bedroom and some tube jammed up his nose before your lust for control over the free individual would be satisifed.
What is wrong with you rdo?
Even if they did, I am sure you'd still find something to complain about. You would not stop until you had a camera installed in their bedroom and some tube jammed up his nose before your lust for control over the free individual would be satisifed.
What is wrong with you rdo?
nszasz wrote:
Ditto. I've found so many here, I'm forever grateful (and show it through support, of course!).
Soooooo good! Another gem discovered on RP!
Ditto. I've found so many here, I'm forever grateful (and show it through support, of course!).
rdo wrote:
WTF?
Even if they did, I am sure you'd still find something to complain about. You would not stop until you had a camera installed in their bedroom and some tube jammed up his nose before your lust for control over the free individual would be satisifed.
WTF?
westslope wrote:
Into fewer, smaller homes.
Even if they did, I am sure you'd still find something to complain about. You would not stop until you had a camera installed in their bedroom and some tube jammed up his nose before your lust for control over the free individual would be satisifed.
Into fewer, smaller homes.
Even if they did, I am sure you'd still find something to complain about. You would not stop until you had a camera installed in their bedroom and some tube jammed up his nose before your lust for control over the free individual would be satisifed.
Soooooo good! Another gem discovered on RP!
Don't know why I like it so much, but I do. The chiptune sound is probably part of it.
Love these Republic Tigers...
fredriley wrote:
I watched a TV documentary relatively recently, though sadly I can't remember its title, which argued, convincingly in my view, that suburbia in the UK and US is a deliberate artefact of cheap oil and the power of the motor industry. I don't know about the US, but over here plenty of suburbs and 'new towns' couldn't exist without the motor car. Milton Keynes comes immediately to mind. These places are going to be in trouble as oil becomes scarcer and more expensive.
I watched a TV documentary relatively recently, though sadly I can't remember its title, which argued, convincingly in my view, that suburbia in the UK and US is a deliberate artefact of cheap oil and the power of the motor industry. I don't know about the US, but over here plenty of suburbs and 'new towns' couldn't exist without the motor car. Milton Keynes comes immediately to mind. These places are going to be in trouble as oil becomes scarcer and more expensive.
Yes, low density suburbs are an artificat of cheap oil. So is an out of control obesity epidemic.
More expensive energy will benefit people and all innovation-prone economies.
Just wanted to say that this song and this CD are as or more interesting than ever. This one has lasting power.
Sasha2001 wrote: Yes indeed.
Totally hooked now - love this song/album. Thanks RP for introducing me to another gem of a band.
Deadwing wrote:
I'll echo previous comments... this is GOOD. Another good band I've discovered via RP
westslope wrote:
Into fewer, smaller homes.
Begs the question.
Into fewer, smaller homes.
Begs the question.
Okay, I'm bumping from 9 —-> 10! Still loving this song — thanks RP for introducing me to these guys! Never hear them on commercial radio (which is good for me / sad for them)
Totally hooked now - love this song/album. Thanks RP for introducing me to another gem of a band.
spudboy wrote:
yep, the harmonies are similar..not the rock vibe, though
Cool song. Reminds me a little of the Moody Blues. Its the vocals I think.
yep, the harmonies are similar..not the rock vibe, though
Cool song. Reminds me a little of the Moody Blues. Its the vocals I think.
Already a while since this busted onto the scene (for me, via RP), but wow, yesterday while doing the train commute thing, I was treated to this tune on the way in and Golden Sands on the way back from work, and I can honestly say that this stuff is nearly as good as it gets, with amazing music, fantastic soundscaping in the background at all times, profoundly seminal and apropos lyrics delivered impeccably, and spot-on production. I can also honestly say that just as this continues to grow on me, it also continues to open up abyssal depths below with each listening, and since there are relatively very few things out there these days that can pack that kind of wallop, I dig it endlessly. Once again, I owe so much gratitude to RP!
Amazing song! lyrics and music - just perfect. Best track in the album, by far.
Byronape wrote:
One could argue that all suburban development is reckless. Around here there used to be miles and miles of farm land. Now it's covered with miles and miles of suburbanite McMansions, half of which sit empty due to the recession. Yeah, that was a good trade... fresh food in exchange for poorly built houses for the soulless suburban empty suits and their cookie cutter luxury cars.
I watched a TV documentary relatively recently, though sadly I can't remember its title, which argued, convincingly in my view, that suburbia in the UK and US is a deliberate artefact of cheap oil and the power of the motor industry. I don't know about the US, but over here plenty of suburbs and 'new towns' couldn't exist without the motor car. Milton Keynes comes immediately to mind. These places are going to be in trouble as oil becomes scarcer and more expensive.
One could argue that all suburban development is reckless. Around here there used to be miles and miles of farm land. Now it's covered with miles and miles of suburbanite McMansions, half of which sit empty due to the recession. Yeah, that was a good trade... fresh food in exchange for poorly built houses for the soulless suburban empty suits and their cookie cutter luxury cars.
I watched a TV documentary relatively recently, though sadly I can't remember its title, which argued, convincingly in my view, that suburbia in the UK and US is a deliberate artefact of cheap oil and the power of the motor industry. I don't know about the US, but over here plenty of suburbs and 'new towns' couldn't exist without the motor car. Milton Keynes comes immediately to mind. These places are going to be in trouble as oil becomes scarcer and more expensive.
westslope wrote:
Into fewer, smaller homes.
Exactly! Also, it would be a good idea to stop the Great White Migrations from happening in cities... People that get all excited and upset when a black or minority family moves next door are half the problem. That leaves vacant houses, which also lowers values, which then invites criminal activity. It also leads toward urban neglect, drugs, and failing schools. After all, most political leaders are white people who apparently don't care about minority students...
I used to work in real estate for a brief time. It sickens me how much home values go down when a minority family moves in. It isn't supposed to be a factor, but appraisers have all kinds of code words that are used to designate blocks and neighborhoods as "containing non-white" people. I worked as a middle man between residential appraisers and lenders, and banks would ask appraisers to comment on "neighborhood composition."
One of the most racist and greedy industries I've ever seen.
Ok, I need to step off the soapbox. This isn't an appropriate place for my rants.
Into fewer, smaller homes.
Exactly! Also, it would be a good idea to stop the Great White Migrations from happening in cities... People that get all excited and upset when a black or minority family moves next door are half the problem. That leaves vacant houses, which also lowers values, which then invites criminal activity. It also leads toward urban neglect, drugs, and failing schools. After all, most political leaders are white people who apparently don't care about minority students...
I used to work in real estate for a brief time. It sickens me how much home values go down when a minority family moves in. It isn't supposed to be a factor, but appraisers have all kinds of code words that are used to designate blocks and neighborhoods as "containing non-white" people. I worked as a middle man between residential appraisers and lenders, and banks would ask appraisers to comment on "neighborhood composition."
One of the most racist and greedy industries I've ever seen.
Ok, I need to step off the soapbox. This isn't an appropriate place for my rants.
I DIG THIS!
WonderLizard wrote:
The recession aside, generally houses go up because folks need a place to live. Where would you suggest they go?
Into fewer, smaller homes.
The recession aside, generally houses go up because folks need a place to live. Where would you suggest they go?
Into fewer, smaller homes.
Byronape wrote:
One could argue that all suburban development is reckless. Around here there used to be miles and miles of farm land. Now it's covered with miles and miles of suburbanite McMansions, half of which sit empty due to the recession. Yeah, that was a good trade... fresh food in exchange for poorly built houses for the soulless suburban empty suits and their cookie cutter luxury cars.
Sour grapes.
One could argue that all suburban development is reckless. Around here there used to be miles and miles of farm land. Now it's covered with miles and miles of suburbanite McMansions, half of which sit empty due to the recession. Yeah, that was a good trade... fresh food in exchange for poorly built houses for the soulless suburban empty suits and their cookie cutter luxury cars.
Sour grapes.
Byronape wrote:
One could argue that all suburban development is reckless. Around here there used to be miles and miles of farm land. Now it's covered with miles and miles of suburbanite McMansions, half of which sit empty due to the recession. Yeah, that was a good trade... fresh food in exchange for poorly built houses for the soulless suburban empty suits and their cookie cutter luxury cars.
The recession aside, generally houses go up because folks need a place to live. Where would you suggest they go?
One could argue that all suburban development is reckless. Around here there used to be miles and miles of farm land. Now it's covered with miles and miles of suburbanite McMansions, half of which sit empty due to the recession. Yeah, that was a good trade... fresh food in exchange for poorly built houses for the soulless suburban empty suits and their cookie cutter luxury cars.
The recession aside, generally houses go up because folks need a place to live. Where would you suggest they go?
I love Radio Pardise - you guys keep me going!
love this....
alux wrote:
Yeah, well I suppose if one listens to Radio Paradise 8 hours a day / 5 days a week for the past 5 years straight like I have, things become "old" in a hurry....
socalhol wrote:
A 2008 song an "old favorite"? Needs at least a couple of decades to get that label for me, but I guess I'm just old myself.
Cool — Bill is pulling out all my old favorites today! Haven't heard this in awhile, thanks. 8 
9
The video for this song is kind of fun — check it out on YouTube
9The video for this song is kind of fun — check it out on YouTube
A 2008 song an "old favorite"? Needs at least a couple of decades to get that label for me, but I guess I'm just old myself.
Yeah, well I suppose if one listens to Radio Paradise 8 hours a day / 5 days a week for the past 5 years straight like I have, things become "old" in a hurry....
Love this song!
westslope wrote:
One could argue that all suburban development is reckless. Around here there used to be miles and miles of farm land. Now it's covered with miles and miles of suburbanite McMansions, half of which sit empty due to the recession. Yeah, that was a good trade... fresh food in exchange for poorly built houses for the soulless suburban empty suits and their cookie cutter luxury cars.
And how over the years I have seen wild places fall to cities and reckless suburban development.
One could argue that all suburban development is reckless. Around here there used to be miles and miles of farm land. Now it's covered with miles and miles of suburbanite McMansions, half of which sit empty due to the recession. Yeah, that was a good trade... fresh food in exchange for poorly built houses for the soulless suburban empty suits and their cookie cutter luxury cars.
I love how they use descending scales to harmonize—simple and effective.
I love this. Has a Guster-esque feel to it.
justin_thyme wrote:
I have both — and sure hope I'm never cured!
Ditto!....
I have both — and sure hope I'm never cured!
Ditto!....
westslope wrote:
I have both — and sure hope I'm never cured!
Having caught the Porcupine Tree disease predisposes one to catching the Republic Tigers affliction.
I have both — and sure hope I'm never cured!
Having caught the Porcupine Tree disease predisposes one to catching the Republic Tigers affliction.
cool song
kinda like porcupine tree to me
not an old favorite for me yet .... i just heard it today :)
kinda like porcupine tree to me
not an old favorite for me yet .... i just heard it today :)
Nice song and a really good album.
When are they coming out with a new one?
When are they coming out with a new one?
Love it. Reminds me somehow of Brian Eno - not the sound so much as the sensibility. E.g.: Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy.
socalhol wrote:
A 2008 song an "old favorite"? Needs at least a couple of decades to get that label for me, but I guess I'm just old myself.
Cool — Bill is pulling out all my old favorites today! Haven't heard this in awhile, thanks. 8 9
The video for this song is kind of fun — check it out on YouTube
9The video for this song is kind of fun — check it out on YouTube
A 2008 song an "old favorite"? Needs at least a couple of decades to get that label for me, but I guess I'm just old myself.
I like the whole song - lyrics, haunting female background vocals, catchy beat, acoustics... <3
Synth80s wrote:
Cheers to that!
I bought this album after hearing this song a few times on RP and I was pleasantly surprised. It's quite good end to end. This is why I love RP!
Cheers to that!
Hopeful and happy! 
I love the imagery in this song.
I bought this album after hearing this song a few times on RP and I was pleasantly surprised. It's quite good end to end. This is why I love RP!
This song always catches my attention!
Cool — Bill is pulling out all my old favorites today! Haven't heard this in awhile, thanks. 8 9
The video for this song is kind of fun — check it out on YouTube
9The video for this song is kind of fun — check it out on YouTube
Makes me think of how much I love living and playing in the wilderness and yet how much I love cities, especially some cities.
And how over the years I have seen wild places fall to cities and reckless suburban development.
i adore this song
Not particularly crazy about this band, but I do like this song!
alph wrote:
I was just thinking the cover art was pretty bad, but I don't mind the song.
Killer album artwork.
I was just thinking the cover art was pretty bad, but I don't mind the song.
AmandaMaria wrote:we need a "like" button :)
would that not be the 7 button?
would that not be the 7 button?
Very like this muchly I do
westslope wrote:
we need a "like" button :)
Have you watched the cities move?
Does nature fall before
This age of industry?
For today I'll let it go
You've been good to me,
Have I been good to you?