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VV

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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 4:09pm

 kurtster wrote:

What's it worth to ya ?

Not a thing. 
 
Just love the dramatic exits you announce from time-to-time... only to come slinking back.

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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 3:54pm

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You should see my albums.

So you have no worries about people taking advantage of this lack of proper procedures for outgoing payments ?

They are just sloppy, nothing nefarious or untoward going on.  Close enough for government work, right ?

So, you are just going to make a blanket statement that they are nefarious and untoward... why? Because prez Musk said so? 
 
Until there is more info to back that up, a level-headed assessment would be that it's sloppy. But details aren't something that Musk or Trump are generally familiar with. What they are familiar with is finding a wiff of something that seems "off" and immediately using it to justify their half-baked, ill-conceived actions. There is never a "let's get to the bottom of that" approach with those clowns. I don't buy the untraceable bullsh*t. All Musk's whiz-kid minions need to do is to ask for reports that would aggregate the largest and most frequent chunks of payments and dig a bit into those to examine them further. But I sincerely doubt any true follow-up is planned. It's just easier to call them untraceable and call it a day.



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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 3:09pm

 VV wrote:


...maybe longer?


oh yes please
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 2:06pm

 kurtster wrote:

You should see my albums.

So you have no worries about people taking advantage of this lack of proper procedures for outgoing payments ?

They are just sloppy, nothing nefarious or untoward going on.  Close enough for government work, right ?


In my post: "Does it need addressing? Absolutely!"
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 2:01pm

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In a Monday post on X, formerly Twitter, DOGE said that within the federal government, the TAS field was optional for about $4.7 trillion in payments and was "often left blank, making traceability almost impossible."


BS. SQL 101...

"SELECT * FROM FED_GOV_FIN_TRANS WHERE TAS_ID IS NULL;"
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 1:44pm

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The $4.7m isn't missing or stolen, just unlabeled.

The tracking code in question is the Treasury Account Symbol (TAS) identification code. According to the Bureau Fiscal of the Fiscal, these codes—assigned by the Treasury Department, in collaboration with the Office of Management and Budget (OMB)—serve to track financial transactions and data.

All federal government financial transactions are classified by TAS for reporting to the Treasury and OMB.

In a Monday post on X, formerly Twitter, DOGE said that within the federal government, the TAS field was optional for about $4.7 trillion in payments and was "often left blank, making traceability almost impossible."

Kinda like my albums not being put in alphabetical order. They're not missing, just disorganized. Does it need addressing? Absolutely! But firing people? That's TFG's brand, so I suppose it's all he can do.

 
You should see my albums.

So you have no worries about people taking advantage of this lack of proper procedures for outgoing payments ?

They are just sloppy, nothing nefarious or untoward going on.  Close enough for government work, right ?
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 1:21pm


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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 11:10am

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 Not to mention WTF is going on with the Social Security Administration.


For the South African to come in and say "OMG, bureaucracies have waste and fraud!?!" just shows you he's a big rich naive teenager. (If you think of him like that, his clumsy short-sighted pie-in-the-sky "wants" start to make sense.)

What's happening is what you see when young, inexperienced, smug college students come in to a process and haven't yet gasped the scope of what's come before. For instance: 
Do systems need cleaning up and visible fraud need elimination? No one would argue with that (except the people who are firing the oversight groups? why?) but the answer is to use the fantastic brilliant Doge kids to find outliers and waste and deal with that - not fire the rank and file and leave the USA in chaos until it all gets sorted out or we get invaded...

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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 11:07am

The $4.7m isn't missing or stolen, just unlabeled.

The tracking code in question is the Treasury Account Symbol (TAS) identification code. According to the Bureau Fiscal of the Fiscal, these codes—assigned by the Treasury Department, in collaboration with the Office of Management and Budget (OMB)—serve to track financial transactions and data.

All federal government financial transactions are classified by TAS for reporting to the Treasury and OMB.

In a Monday post on X, formerly Twitter, DOGE said that within the federal government, the TAS field was optional for about $4.7 trillion in payments and was "often left blank, making traceability almost impossible."

Kinda like my albums not being put in alphabetical order. They're not missing, just disorganized. Does it need addressing? Absolutely! But firing people? That's TFG's brand, so I suppose it's all he can do.


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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 10:15am

 kurtster wrote:

What's it worth to ya ?


4.7 trillion? I mean we are using imaginary numbers now anyway, so just name your price.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 10:07am

 VV wrote:
 islander wrote:
Can you please wait another 4 days before posting?
...maybe longer?
 
What's it worth to ya ?
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 9:45am

 islander wrote:


Can you please wait another 4 days before posting?


...maybe longer?
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 8:07am

 kurtster wrote:

Evidently this is breaking news to you and the rest of you.

So mentioning $4.7 T in unaccountable transactions is considered trolling ?

I guess we have a new standard.


Can you please wait another 4 days before posting?
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 7:25am

 kurtster wrote:

Evidently this is breaking news to you and the rest of you.

So mentioning $4.7 T in unaccountable transactions is considered trolling ?

I guess we have a new standard.

Let's take this slow... because I know terms can get confusing.

How do you know there is $4.7T in "unaccountable" transactions?

They may not be coded, but they are in the system.  They are "accounted" for... even if not correctly.  Transfers of cash have 2 parties, and the government records can be used to find the "counterparties".

What you won't hear from FOX is a breakdown of the actual payments.  The details can and will be identified.  It's not money laundering, it's ineffective systems and processes.

For the record... I don't think anyone here thinks the government is a well-oiled machine... but it does serve a necessary purpose that you appear to either want to ignore or abandon because you don't feel like you're getting your share.

Other than chaos...what had Trump created / built / designed in his first month?  You're awfully quiet about all of the appointments and the destruction of democracy.  I guess you support Russia and China now that your boy is in their pockets.  Regale us with your unfettered joy at the brilliant leadership of Trump 2.0  
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 7:25am

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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 7:13am

 rgio wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

I had $4.7 trillion missing on my bingo card ...


You're a puppet...who apparently only comes out to troll but refuses to comment on anything substantive... like the destruction of a functional government by an immigrant with unfettered access to previously private data.

Do you really think that the funds just disappeared and they can't be traced?
 
Evidently this is breaking news to you and the rest of you.

So mentioning $4.7 T in unaccountable transactions is considered trolling ?

I guess we have a new standard.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 6:55am

 HaydukeTwo wrote:
Criminals respect and copy the success of other criminals and autocrats follow the footsteps of dominant criminals  




‘In a real sense, US democracy has died’: how Trump is emulating Hungary’s Orbán | Donald Trump
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 6:44am

Criminals respect and copy the success of other criminals and autocrats follow the footsteps of dominant criminals  
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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 6:32am

 islander wrote:

Do you really need to ask?

It's my hopeless optimism... you're right.  

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Posted: Feb 18, 2025 - 6:27am

 rgio wrote:

...

Do you really think ...

Do you really need to ask?
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