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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 12:45pm

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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 12:36pm

 kcar wrote:

"I see below that you are still a wide open border advocate as you have just redenounced Trump's border policies again. You all put foreigners in front of Americans and in doing so call those who object, racist xenophobes, which is demeaning, insulting and untrue. "

Oh, did/does Trump have a border policy? I have to ask beecause he killed one of the strongest bipartisan bills seeking to restrict illegal immigration and reform the entire immigration system. You know, the one endorsed by the Border Patrol. Trump killed it because he didn't want to let Biden have a "win" before an upcoming election. 

As for your claim that the Democrats have abandoned the working class in favor of globalist elites, I suppose the basis for that claim falls into two camps—one based no the economy,  the other on social issues. So for the first concern, can you point us to data demonstrating that working class employment has fallen under Biden? Are wages rising or falling for this group? My guess is that working class wages have not risen as quickly as white-collar wages, in part because of inflation. But even your beloved FNC (see what I did there Kurt ) is stating that the economy is quite strong and inflation in the US—lower than other comparable national economies—is falling. 

But please, tell us with evidence how the Democrats have left the working class behind. It would be great if you could show us how the Republicans have done much  if anything to lift up the working class. And no, Trump's tax cuts which skewed in favor of the richest 1% don't count. And Democratic immigration policy isn't screwing the working class over either. The CBO recently released a study projecting that immigration will add $7 trillion to the US economy over the next ten years—$1 trillion in government revenue over the same period. Immigration grows the US economy and keeps our economic productivity up. 
 
As for you other concern==social issues—the Democratic party is a big tent party. It represents a broad spectrum of individuals.  The party is trying to give marginalized groups equal civil rights protections and support social acceptance of those groups. I fail to see how these efforts are putting working class people at a disadvantage or in a second=place spot. 

Obviously , you see things differently. But you only offere sweeping generalizations—"Biden's left the southern border wide open"—that don't stand up and often aren't supported by any evidence. So yes, you get dismissed and disrespected. 

But rather mention yet again how you're disrespected, why don't you just voice your take on the economy and social issues clearly, with evidence? You're not going to change people's minds about Trump but you might make them have a better ability to understand GOP policy. These days, personally, I don't what the party is doing independent of Trump...



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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 12:23pm

 kurtster wrote:


"I see below that you are still a wide open border advocate as you have just redenounced Trump's border policies again. You all put foreigners in front of Americans and in doing so call those who object, racist xenophobes, which is demeaning, insulting and untrue. "

Oh, did/does Trump have a border policy? I have to ask beecause he killed one of the strongest bipartisan bills seeking to restrict illegal immigration and reform the entire immigration system. You know, the one endorsed by the Border Patrol. Trump killed it because he didn't want to let Biden have a "win" before an upcoming election. 

As for your claim that the Democrats have abandoned the working class in favor of globalist elites, I suppose the basis for that claim falls into two camps—one based no the economy,  the other on social issues. So for the first concern, can you point us to data demonstrating that working class employment has fallen under Biden? Are wages rising or falling for this group? My guess is that working class wages have not risen as quickly as white-collar wages, in part because of inflation. But even your beloved FNC (see what I did there Kurt ) is stating that the economy is quite strong and inflation in the US—lower than other comparable national economies—is falling. 

But please, tell us with evidence how the Democrats have left the working class behind. It would be great if you could show us how the Republicans have done much  if anything to lift up the working class. And no, Trump's tax cuts which skewed in favor of the richest 1% don't count. And Democratic immigration policy isn't screwing the working class over either. The CBO recently released a study projecting that immigration will add $7 trillion to the US economy over the next ten years—$1 trillion in government revenue over the same period. Immigration grows the US economy and keeps our economic productivity up. 
 
As for you other concern==social issues—the Democratic party is a big tent party. It represents a broad spectrum of individuals.  The party is trying to give marginalized groups equal civil rights protections and support social acceptance of those groups. I fail to see how these efforts are putting working class people at a disadvantage or in a second=place spot. 

Obviously , you see things differently. But you only offere sweeping generalizations—"Biden's left the southern border wide open"—that don't stand up and often aren't supported by any evidence. So yes, you get dismissed and disrespected. 

But rather mention yet again how you're disrespected, why don't you just voice your take on the economy and social issues clearly, with evidence? You're not going to change people's minds about Trump but you might make them have a better ability to understand GOP policy. These days, personally, I don't what the party is doing independent of Trump...
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 10:04am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Why ?  You and quite frankly most others here want to see the GOP crushed and put out of business.

Too late. Yer boy and his sycophantic followers already accomplished this. As a political entity capable of proposing solutions to problems, governing, or even acting as credible opposition it is a spent force until (at least) its figurehead is forgotten. It has been reduced to a personality cult for a very unpleasant personality. It didn't even offer a platform in 2020. No agenda, just whatever popped out of Trump's twitter account. This is eerily similar to the Italian Fascist slogan: "Mussolini is always right." As a blueprint for governing this is utterly bankrupt. What's more, Trump is an old man with not-particularly-healthy habits, and notoriously disloyal to those who put him in power. He isn't grooming successors or building an ideology. The party that devotes itself to him will not survive him. None of this was unpredictable. During the 2016 campaign his loudest supporters, when asked if the party they had joined would survive the takeover expressed indifference. The party was a tool to gain power, nothing more. If it wasn't useful to their agenda it deserved to go extinct. And it may. Even when it was tied to the fortunes of Richard Nixon (and wandered in the wilderness for a presidential term, losing elections at every level) it still had diverse voices within it and it still had something to say. That diversity has been driven out. You could find Nixon repellent—even vote for his impeachment—and remain a Republican in 1973. If you criticize the Dear Leader now you are out. So congratulations! Your hero has so tainted the party that the ship will go down with the captain.
 
The republican party is now the party of the working class, which Obama effectively threw out of the democrat party during his term.  You know, all those white folks that cling to their guns and bibles.  Not the first time a reversal has happened , but that is what has happened with Trump's takeover of the party.  Old Kennedy working class type democrats have found a new home in the repub party.  The blue blood Nelson Rockefeller types (rgio and VV being prime examples) have gone to the dems, which now is the party of the rich authoritarian elites being run by the Progressive branch of the party.

Trump gave a voice to those who have been totally ignored by the establishment of both parties (which are essentially opposite sides of the same coin).  The establishment being the globalist, open border, offshore jobs agenda standard bearers.  I see below that you are still a wide open border advocate as you have just redenounced Trump's border policies again.  You all put foreigners in front of Americans and in doing so call those who object, racist xenophobes, which is demeaning, insulting and untrue.  That is where the divide begins and apparently ends.

You and most others have a totally distorted idea of exactly who Trump supporters are and why they are.  You listen to your news feeds and not those who are the ones you claim to understand and call delusional in so many words.  You do not want to understand the actual concerns since you disagree with them so completely.  In your case, you cannot get past the objection to having open borders like you insist on.

I have tried to be enlightening over the years but it is fruitless since most just want to beat up the messenger, and any messenger (not just me) that tries to offer up explanations of certain POV's that you all find incomprehensible based on your own ideologies and POV's.  We have all been summarily dismissed as members of a cult as opposed to those with legitimate grievances.  Insult us into seeing things your way is your method.  Howze that working for ya ?
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 10:02am

 Bill_J wrote:
With regard to the justices, Trump really didn't actually have much to do with that. Those justices as far as I understand it were hand-picked by the Federalist Society and were just waiting for a republican president to take office. The president makes the nomination, but he didn't really pick them. In Trump's case I'm confident that he had no idea who those people were.

Exactly. I think this deal was to placate the rational wing of the GOP.

Now that wing has been driven out. Not sure what that implies for the future of the court.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 9:22am

 Bill_J wrote:
With regard to the justices, Trump really didn't actually have much to do with that. Those justices as far as I understand it were hand-picked by the Federalist Society and were just waiting for a republican president to take office. The president makes the nomination, but he didn't really pick them. In Trump's case I'm confident that he had no idea who those people were.
Gives support to my long time assertion that Trump is actually irrelevant, though in effect his re-emergence to figurehead status is tragic for the future of greater good...
Irony is definitely not dead.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 9:15am

 Lazy8 wrote:

Anything the executive branch does about taxes and regulations the next administration can undo. There was some very good Title IX reform under Betsy DeVos, but I'd like to actually see some of the deregulation his fans keep touting. It seems to be more symbolic than real. And as far as trade and immigration policy go...disastrous.

I'll give him credit for Operation Warp Speed, as much as he undermined it with his idiotic statements. A rare instance of government rising effectively to an emergency.

As for the judiciary...his longest-lasting legacy will be one of the few positive outcomes from his presidency. The cry among fans of the rule of law is "But Gorsuch!" But to get him we had to put up with an executive utterly contemptuous of the rule of law. So mixed bag at best.




With regard to the justices, Trump really didn't actually have much to do with that. Those justices as far as I understand it were hand-picked by the Federalist Society and were just waiting for a republican president to take office. The president makes the nomination, but he didn't really pick them. In Trump's case I'm confident that he had no idea who those people were.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 8:48am

 black321 wrote:
Dont disagree with the latter points, and I'm no MAGA...but despite the lack of actual messaging of an agenda by chubby, he was highly effective with tax cuts, deregulation, court nominees...right in line with the GOP pre-2016. So all those saluting the captain appear OK with the ends, despite the means.

Anything the executive branch does about taxes and regulations the next administration can undo. There was some very good Title IX reform under Betsy DeVos, but I'd like to actually see some of the deregulation his fans keep touting. It seems to be more symbolic than real. And as far as trade and immigration policy go...disastrous.

I'll give him credit for Operation Warp Speed, as much as he undermined it with his idiotic statements. A rare instance of government rising effectively to an emergency.

As for the judiciary...his longest-lasting legacy will be one of the few positive outcomes from his presidency. The cry among fans of the rule of law is "But Gorsuch!" But to get him we had to put up with an executive utterly contemptuous of the rule of law. So mixed bag at best.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 8:15am

 Lazy8 wrote:

Too late. Yer boy and his sycophantic followers already accomplished this.

As a political entity capable of proposing solutions to problems, governing, or even acting as credible opposition it is a spent force until (at least) its figurehead is forgotten. It has been reduced to a personality cult for a very unpleasant personality.

It didn't even offer a platform in 2020. No agenda, just whatever popped out of Trump's twitter account. This is eerily similar to the Italian Fascist slogan: "Mussolini is always right."

As a blueprint for governing this is utterly bankrupt. What's more, Trump is an old man with not-particularly-healthy habits, and notoriously disloyal to those who put him in power. He isn't grooming successors or building an ideology. The party that devotes itself to him will not survive him.

None of this was unpredictable. During the 2016 campaign his loudest supporters, when asked if the party they had joined would survive the takeover expressed indifference. The party was a tool to gain power, nothing more. If it wasn't useful to their agenda it deserved to go extinct.

And it may. Even when it was tied to the fortunes of Richard Nixon (and wandered in the wilderness for a presidential term, losing elections at every level) it still had diverse voices within it and it still had something to say. That diversity has been driven out. You could find Nixon repellent—even vote for his impeachment—and remain a Republican in 1973. If you criticize the Dear Leader now you are out.

So congratulations! Your hero has so tainted the party that the ship will go down with the captain.


Dont disagree with the latter points, and I'm no MAGA...but despite the lack of actual messaging of an agenda by chubby, he was highly effective with tax cuts, deregulation, court nominees...right in line with the GOP pre-2016. So all those saluting the captain appear OK with the ends, despite the means. 
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 7:55am

The old one two...
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 7:48am

 kurtster wrote:
Why ?  You and quite frankly most others here want to see the GOP crushed and put out of business.

Too late. Yer boy and his sycophantic followers already accomplished this.

As a political entity capable of proposing solutions to problems, governing, or even acting as credible opposition it is a spent force until (at least) its figurehead is forgotten. It has been reduced to a personality cult for a very unpleasant personality.

It didn't even offer a platform in 2020. No agenda, just whatever popped out of Trump's twitter account. This is eerily similar to the Italian Fascist slogan: "Mussolini is always right."

As a blueprint for governing this is utterly bankrupt. What's more, Trump is an old man with not-particularly-healthy habits, and notoriously disloyal to those who put him in power. He isn't grooming successors or building an ideology. The party that devotes itself to him will not survive him.

None of this was unpredictable. During the 2016 campaign his loudest supporters, when asked if the party they had joined would survive the takeover expressed indifference. The party was a tool to gain power, nothing more. If it wasn't useful to their agenda it deserved to go extinct.

And it may. Even when it was tied to the fortunes of Richard Nixon (and wandered in the wilderness for a presidential term, losing elections at every level) it still had diverse voices within it and it still had something to say. That diversity has been driven out. You could find Nixon repellent—even vote for his impeachment—and remain a Republican in 1973. If you criticize the Dear Leader now you are out.

So congratulations! Your hero has so tainted the party that the ship will go down with the captain.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 7:02am

 kurtster wrote:
Why ?  You and quite frankly most others here want to see the GOP crushed and put out of business.

Angry, oppressed Kurt needs to take a step back for a minute.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that a conservative party should be destroyed.  What needs to end is the fanaticism of a wanna-be oligarch who wraps himself in the flag while spewing hatred for America.

It's not him we struggle with, I think everyone you're pointing at sees Trump very clearly for what he is.  The persistent question is why you refuse to.  In the past week, he's trashed our allies, supported Putin repeatedly, likened himself to Navalny without a hint of condolence or support, and stopped a border bill with funding for Ukraine through his subservient House speaker.  Ignore the trials, the takeover of the RNC so he can command all of the money, and the fact that he's so focused on "fixing America", that he has no time to issue any details about how while he's busy selling 1,000 pairs of shoes. 

America isn't in decline.  We've weathered a pandemic and come out the other side better than the rest of the world: without a recession, markets at all-time highs, and unemployment at historic lows.  If you want to complain about food prices, it's as much about Putin as it is anything in the US.  If you want to see a real decline...give Trump 4 years to destroy all of the US government infrastructure, ruin the alliances we spent a century cultivating, and snatch Cold War defeat from the jaws of victory by bowing down to the one person on the planet he refuses to say a single bad thing about.  America is already great.  Flawed...but great.  Trump wants to destroy that, primarily for ego, his personal wealth, and to avoid going to jail for his illicit behavior his entire life.

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Posted: Feb 19, 2024 - 10:36pm

 kurtster wrote:

Why ?  You and quite frankly most others here want to see the GOP crushed and put out of business.

Well, I can't speak for the others, but I think that is utter bullshit. I for one, would welcome a strong, intellectually viable GOP. No one wants a one-party state. that would be absolutely suffocating and stifle all discussion. The problem I have with the current GOP is that it has turned away from reasoning towards mere tribal sloganeering.  It's like trying to talk with a spoilt five year old. 

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Posted: Feb 19, 2024 - 10:27pm

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But the GOP needs to pull up its pants if it wants to maintain relevancy. 
 
Why ?  You and quite frankly most others here want to see the GOP crushed and put out of business.
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Posted: Feb 19, 2024 - 9:09pm

 kurtster wrote:

Haley is a neocon.  Vote for her if you want more war(s).


Not on my to-do list. But the GOP needs to pull up its pants if it wants to maintain relevancy. 
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Posted: Feb 19, 2024 - 9:07pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

It's actually quite interesting. Just like the Democrats are riven by a divide between the progressive left-wing faction and the centrists, the GOP is also riven by the split between the isolationists (close the border, pull-back the military, renege on our international security arrangements) and the neocons. 


Unfortunately for the isolationists, reneging on our multilateral agreements and organizations like NATO just emboldens our enemies to attack our interests and allies more aggressively. 

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Posted: Feb 19, 2024 - 9:00pm

 kurtster wrote:

Haley is a neocon.  Vote for her if you want more war(s).

It's actually quite interesting. Just like the Democrats are riven by a divide between the progressive left-wing faction and the centrists, the GOP is also riven by the split between the isolationists (close the border, pull-back the military, renege on our international security arrangements) and the neocons. 

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Posted: Feb 19, 2024 - 8:43pm

 kcar wrote:
 Steely_D wrote:
Fear of reprisal. Oh, and if you want to spend your money - Trump merchandise!


Also, Nikki doesn't resonate with GOP voters like Trump does. His supporters feel shafted and left out of mainstream politics. They want spectacle and nastiness and "truth-telling." They want to burn  the house down and have one guy run things. Nikki's too much part of mainstream politics. I'm sure there's also an element of sexism in the preference for Trump as well. 
 
Haley is a neocon.  Vote for her if you want more war(s).
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Posted: Feb 19, 2024 - 7:29pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Fear of reprisal.

Oh, and if you want to spend your money - Trump merchandise!



Also, Nikki doesn't resonate with GOP voters like Trump does. His supporters feel shafted and left out of mainstream politics. They want spectacle and nastiness and "truth-telling." They want to burn  the house down and have one guy run things. Nikki's too much part of mainstream politics. I'm sure there's also an element of sexism in the preference for Trump as well. 


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Posted: Feb 19, 2024 - 3:11pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

from this side of the pond, it looks like Haley would have a good chance to win against Biden on grounds of age alone.  Why don't the GOP choose her instead of an aging serial loser?



Fear of reprisal.

Oh, and if you want to spend your money - Trump merchandise!


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