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Posted: Jul 22, 2019 - 2:43pm

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Posted: Jul 22, 2019 - 1:40pm



 Proclivities wrote:

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As you probably know, there are different groups "keeping track" of anti-Muslim violence within the US, but I'm not sure how accurate of a job any of them are doing.  Some seem better than others, some have dubious track records.  The FBI keeps records if you feel the energy to drill through their records.  As to specific anti-Muslim homicides in the US, I guess there are places where that can be found.   I generally don't look into it very often.  There were three Muslim American college students who were essentially "executed"  by a white guy in nearby Chapel Hill about 4 years ago, though that is not within your time frame.
 * I don't believe Sikhs are Muslims, though I imagine to Western people who may seek to victimize them, that doesn't matter.

 
Thanks.  I suspected that somebody or other was keeping track but had not bothered to go looking.   I see there were 15 hate-motivated killings in 2017 in the USA.  But the numbers on that FBI page do not break out the victims by group identity.  

The Sikh religion is indeed completely and utterly separate from Islam.    Christian and Jewish faiths are historically closer.   But no matter.  To some inspired individuals, they all are 'rag heads'.  

I am sure that these inspired individuals are unaware that Sikh soldiers were loyal supporters of the British for many, many years.    When folks of an identifiable group put their safety and lives on the line for people I identify with, I tend to view  them with fondness, even if the allegiance was in some respects mistaken.   Old school, I suppose.  
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Posted: Jul 22, 2019 - 12:42pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
westslope wrote:
...There were at least two Sikh* Americans that were murdered because they were Muslims but one of those might have been murdered before Trump became president...

No, I was looking for victims on US soil. 

But yes, the Yemenis are victims.    Only a couple of thousand?   Sure now?  

Could be off by an order of magnitude. We aren't keeping very good track.
 
As you probably know, there are different groups "keeping track" of anti-Muslim violence within the US, but I'm not sure how accurate of a job any of them are doing.  Some seem better than others, some have dubious track records.  The FBI keeps records if you feel the energy to drill through their records.  As to specific anti-Muslim homicides in the US, I guess there are places where that can be found.   I generally don't look into it very often.  There were three Muslim American college students who were essentially "executed"  by a white guy in nearby Chapel Hill about 4 years ago, though that is not within your time frame.
 * I don't believe Sikhs are Muslims, though I imagine to Western people who may seek to victimize them, that doesn't matter.

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Posted: Jul 22, 2019 - 12:05pm



 westslope wrote:


 Lazy8 wrote:
westslope wrote:
How many Americans have been murdered so far due to Trump's rhetoric and analysis (sic)?    

There were at least two Sikh Americans that were murdered because they were Muslims but one of those might have been murdered before Trump became president.

Any one keeping count?  

Couple thousand Yemenis. Or are those not the victims you were looking for?
 

No, I was looking for victims on US soil. 


But yes, the Yemenis are victims.    Only a couple of thousand?   Sure now?  
 

Oh we got lots of those, damn near half the country.   Some of them are living pretty good too, but you wouldn't know it if you ask them. 

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Posted: Jul 22, 2019 - 12:02pm

westslope wrote:
No, I was looking for victims on US soil. 

But yes, the Yemenis are victims.    Only a couple of thousand?   Sure now?  

Could be off by an order of magnitude. We aren't keeping very good track.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2019 - 12:00pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
westslope wrote:
How many Americans have been murdered so far due to Trump's rhetoric and analysis (sic)?    

There were at least two Sikh Americans that were murdered because they were Muslims but one of those might have been murdered before Trump became president.

Any one keeping count?  

Couple thousand Yemenis. Or are those not the victims you were looking for?
 

No, I was looking for victims on US soil. 

But yes, the Yemenis are victims.    Only a couple of thousand?   Sure now?  
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Posted: Jul 22, 2019 - 11:50am

westslope wrote:
How many Americans have been murdered so far due to Trump's rhetoric and analysis (sic)?    

There were at least two Sikh Americans that were murdered because they were Muslims but one of those might have been murdered before Trump became president.

Any one keeping count?  

Couple thousand Yemenis. Or are those not the victims you were looking for?
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Posted: Jul 22, 2019 - 10:56am

How many Americans have been murdered so far due to Trump's rhetoric and analysis (sic)?    

There were at least two Sikh Americans that were murdered because they were Muslims but one of those might have been murdered before Trump became president.

Any one keeping count?  
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Posted: Jul 21, 2019 - 1:27pm

Lawyer says suspect in mob boss killing believed he was on mission from Trump
However, according to a filing from his attorney, Robert C. Gottlieb, Comello had no affiliations with the Mafia and instead believed Cali was an agent of the “deep state” and believed he was authorized by Trump to arrest him. Gottlieb said that Comello had brought handcuffs with him and only shot Cali after he refused to submit to a citizen’s arrest and reached for his waistband.

Gottlieb, who sought to prove in the filing that Comello was not liable by reason of insanity, wrote that his client was a subscriber to the “QAnon” conspiracy theory, which claims that Trump is secretly working against a powerful network of pedophiles that control world institutions, according to the Times.

“Mr. Comello’s support for ‘QAnon’ went beyond mere participation in a radical political organization,” Gottlieb wrote. “It evolved into a delusional obsession.”

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Posted: Jul 20, 2019 - 6:05pm

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Posted: Jul 20, 2019 - 3:18pm

Colbert drew attention to Trump’s comments at the rally, highlighting the moment the president suggested the four minority lawmakers should leave the country. “If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it,” Trump said at one point.

“Let’s see if the crowd is able to pick up on that subtle messaging,” Colbert said.

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Posted: Jul 20, 2019 - 1:16pm


What a surprise: Trump disavows his disavowal. "Send her back" is doubleplusgood again!


George Orwell would laugh and call this bu||$4!^  too crazy for fiction. 




“Incredible patriots” is the new “very fine people”: Trump defends racist chants



:One day after trying to distance himself from “send her back,” the president abruptly reverses course.



One day after he made an unconvincing attempt to distance himself from the racist chantsthat rang out at his rally in North Carolina on Wednesday night — something his fellow Republicans said they were welcome to see — President Donald Trump abruptly reversed course and defended them.

During an Oval Office event on Friday that was ostensibly to honor Apollo 11 astronauts, Trump cut off a reporter who tried to ask him about his effort to distance himself from the chants, and instead offered a full-throated defense of not only his supporters who made them but also racist tweets he posted last Sunday that incited them.




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“Those people in North Carolina, that stadium was packed,” Trump said. “It was a record crowd and I could’ve filled it 10 times, as you know. Those are incredible people, those are incredible patriots. But I’m unhappy when a congresswoman goes and says, ‘I’m going to be the president’s nightmare.’ She’s going to be the president’s nightmare. She’s lucky to be where she is, let me tell you. And the things she has said are a disgrace to our country.”







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Posted: Jul 20, 2019 - 11:51am



 miamizsun wrote:
what's possible?

...

just curious
 

Getting information
Processing it - with as little prejudice as possible
Speak your truth with respect for yourself and the audience
Then, that's all

You can't control what others do, only what you do
And your unhappiness with how they behave is a waste of your life
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Posted: Jul 20, 2019 - 11:22am

George F. Will on Conservatism’s Homelessness - The New York Times
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Posted: Jul 20, 2019 - 10:09am


Coercion or violence is not a short or long term solution.  As I think you already know.  Being a racist is in some people’s DNA. For example, our nation is steeped in violence and hate. Let’s start w the Indians. We committed atrocities as bad or worse than the holocaust.  Then there was the slave trade. That is an ongoing battle. Now the Irish come over and they were treated as third class citizens. Down the line we go, Jews, Italians, Asians, now middle easterners and Latinos. See what I mean. It goes deep this resentment. Now a target is left wing libtards. It’s hard to have a conversation w those who harbor generations of bigotry against whoever it is. Trump has brought up the idea that’s it’s still ok to express your hatred against others, esp the four brown skinned congresswomen (flavor of the month hate). Worse, he approves of violence against those folks.  How we elected this guy (I’m sure Moscow gave him a healthy push) is a travesty and one we will pay for years.

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 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

My short answer to my question would be that we simply ignore them and give them no quarter. 
 

No quarter means you kill them.
 


 


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Posted: Jul 20, 2019 - 7:58am

what's possible?

is a person his or her beliefs/ideas?

is it possible to separate a person from his or her ideas?

how fast can a person change his or her mind?

and how would you go about changing someone's mind or persuading them?

data?  insults?

what would work with you?

we all get caught up from time to time

when do we say f it and resort to coercion, force or violence?

or authorize someone to do it on our behalf?

and is that a long term sustainable solution?

just curious
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Posted: Jul 19, 2019 - 10:15pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

My short answer to my question would be that we simply ignore them and give them no quarter. 
 

No quarter means you kill them.
 


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Posted: Jul 19, 2019 - 8:47pm



 kurtster wrote:

My short answer to my question would be that we simply ignore them and give them no quarter. 
 

No quarter means you kill them.
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Posted: Jul 19, 2019 - 8:41pm

He would have had three kids, all not yet in their teens, at this point. Can't figure out how to embed the video.

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