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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 4:56pm

Prior Infection Is Little Defense Against Virus Variant, Scientists Say
Evidence from South Africa, where the Omicron variant already dominates, shows a high rate of reinfection of people who have already had the coronavirus.
A past coronavirus infection appears to give little immunity to the new Omicron variant rippling across the globe, South African scientists warned on Thursday, potentially tearing away one layer of defense that humanity has won slowly and at immense cost.

Just a week after its existence was revealed to the world, the heavily mutated variant, which scientists fear could be the most contagious one yet, is already by far the dominant form of the virus in South Africa and spreading fast, according to officials there. Top European disease experts said Thursday that it could be the dominant form in Europe within a few months.

By Thursday, Omicron had been detected in 25 countries on six continents, and experts say it will soon be in every populated corner on earth. That could mean that a world already battered by two years of pandemic and — until recently — harboring hopes for recovery is instead headed for another wave of cases. (...)
Muh natural immunity!
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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 4:30pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Not surprising at all and isn't far removed from Chicken Little hysteria. As noted below:
1) infection rate doesn't mean that those people are sick, just that they're testing positive. "Rates going up!" needs to be held in that context.
2) and Omicron rates rising absolutely has to happen since they're just now getting around to documenting it; does that mean it's just now showing up? No, it means that it's just now getting attention, so no panic when they say the rates are rising.


So I just watched the news while eating and was struck by some of the similarities in the cases so far. 

- Most people seem to have come out of southern Africa (not just South Africa) in the past week or so...
- They have all been vaccinated twice, but no boosters (that I've heard of)...
- They are all having relatively minor symptoms, but enough to take a test/seek medical attention.

If this strain is more virulent and spreads quickly/easily, I'm guessing it's going to tear through the unvaccinated cohort like wildfire, with lockdowns on nursing homes and the possibility of remote learning on the horizon (and you thought the school board meetings have been fun this year!).  By Mid-January, the red states are going to look like the bible-belt in late summer (again).  The economy....inflation...the markets...will cool off a bit, but there won't be the March 2020 dive, as much of the country will remain open for business no matter what.

Just my guessing (and as you can see in the pick 'em... I've been more wrong than right recently).

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 2:43pm

 R_P wrote:
Minnesota health officials said on Thursday that a man who lives in the state was infected with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus



Not surprising at all and isn't far removed from Chicken Little hysteria. As noted below:
1) infection rate doesn't mean that those people are sick, just that they're testing positive. "Rates going up!" needs to be held in that context.
2) and Omicron rates rising absolutely has to happen since they're just now getting around to documenting it; does that mean it's just now showing up? No, it means that it's just now getting attention, so no panic when they say the rates are rising.

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 12:30pm

Minnesota health officials said on Thursday that a man who lives in the state was infected with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus. The man, who officials said had recently traveled to New York City, represents the second known case of the variant in the United States.

Leaders in Minnesota said the discovery was unsurprising, and credited robust disease surveillance systems for finding it.

“This news is concerning, but it is not a surprise,” Gov. Tim Walz said in a statement. “We know that this virus is highly infectious and moves quickly throughout the world. Minnesotans know what to do to keep each other safe now — get the vaccine, get tested, wear a mask indoors, and get a booster.”

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 6:23am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It's taken longer than I expected but I've finally lost one of my own relations... great aunt Maryanne, 89, was a sweet lady married for 71 years to a funny guy who's an absolute RWNJ crank. But funny. Their kids are more dyed-in-the-wool MAGAs with not much of the Christian grace that their mother and my grandmother exhibited. Maryanne lived in Texas her whole life; my grandma left with grandpa for the oilfields of Wyoming in the 50s.


sorry to hear this sct

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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 8:21pm

 rgio wrote:

I assumed as much. 

I just returned from the cemetery on the 1 year anniversary of my father's death...which would also belong in this thread.






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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 8:18pm

 rhahl wrote:
COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

 
 
"Without calcium supplementation, even very high vitamin D3 supplementation does not cause vascular calcification, especially if another important finding is included. Even when calcium blood levels are high, the culprit for undesirable vascular calcification is not vitamin D but insufficient blood levels of vitamin K2. Thus, daily vitamin D3 supplementation in the range of 4000 to 10,000 units (100 to 250 µg) needed to generate an optimal vitamin D3 blood level in the range of 40–60 ng/mL has been shown to be completely safe when combined with approximately 200 µg/mL vitamin K2 [80,81,82]. However, this knowledge is still not widespread in the medical community, and obsolete warnings about the risks of vitamin D3 overdoses unfortunately are still commonly circulating.
 
 
Thanks for this !

I've been taking D supplements for over 12 years since my stem cell transplant when my initial testing revealed my level tested at 15.  I was told to stay out of the sun for 1 full year after the transplant.  So I started taking 5k per day.  7 years later when my cancer came back and I was to get radiation for the first time, the Dr in charge of the radiation therapy told me that the type of radiation I was going to get would be especially hard on D in my body.  We retested my levels which floated around 40 and I doubled my daily dose to 10k per day and was also told for the first time that D is only fat soluble so it needed to be taken with appropriate foods.  I take between 5 to 10k per day depending on breakfast.  I always take 5k at night regardless.

This is the first time I am hearing about the K2 link.  I shall now add this to my daily regime, along with the C, zinc, turmeric and selenium staples.  I take a couple of others, but these are the core.  I credit the C, D and zinc combo for doing a lot to keep CV 19 at bay during all of this drama.  More than anything else, in addition to proper hygiene of course.
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 7:59pm

 rgio wrote:
 
I just returned from the cemetery on the 1 year anniversary of my father's death...which would also belong in this thread.
 
{#Good-vibes}
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 7:47pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It's taken longer than I expected but I've finally lost one of my own relations... great aunt Maryanne, 89, was a sweet lady married for 71 years to a funny guy who's an absolute RWNJ crank. But funny. Their kids are more dyed-in-the-wool MAGAs with not much of the Christian grace that their mother and my grandmother exhibited. Maryanne lived in Texas her whole life; my grandma left with grandpa for the oilfields of Wyoming in the 50s.




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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 7:01pm

 rgio wrote:
 westslope wrote:

Sounds like you were close to your great aunt Maryanne. But why announce in the COVID-19 thread?  Did she die of the C-19 virus?


I assumed as much.  I just returned from the cemetery on the 1 year anniversary of my father's death...which would also belong in this thread.
 
Condolences to you and Scott. {#Meditate}
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 5:38pm

 rgio wrote:

What I've seen (and I'm not looking too hard) is that the SA data is very dangerous to assume anything from (I think that was discussed below?).  The spike in cases coincides with a big spike in Delta and a massive increase in testing.  The positivity rate on testing has gone down the past week, even as case numbers grow at 50%.

Who knows what to follow/believe at this point?


Right. So
1) wear a good mask properly when in close contact
2) get your protective shots
3) avoid people for 10d after testing positive or start of symptoms

There. Simple. No "loss of freedom" or "subjugation to tyranny" or any of that crap. Same rules as with all other preventable airborne communicable diseases.


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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 5:34pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Yeah, there are a few simple points:
1) infection rate doesn't mean that those people are sick, just that they're testing positive. "Rates going up!" needs to be held in that context.
2) and Omicron rates rising absolutely has to happen since they're just now getting around to documenting it; does that mean it's just now showing up? No, it means that it's just now getting attention, so no panic when they say the rates are rising.
3) Lastly, death rates (on the the NYT website, at least) are going down again, but a doctor site I popped into the other had one of them saying "plenty of dead wood left to burn." WTF, dude?

What I've seen (and I'm not looking too hard) is that the SA data is very dangerous to assume anything from (I think that was discussed below?).  The spike in cases coincides with a big spike in Delta and a massive increase in testing.  The positivity rate on testing has gone down the past week, even as case numbers grow at 50%.

Who knows what to follow/believe at this point?
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 5:22pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Afteer South Africa made their announcement, the Netherlands went back and looked at some cases from mid-November and found that they'd had Omicron already.


Yeah, there are a few simple points:
1) infection rate doesn't mean that those people are sick, just that they're testing positive. "Rates going up!" needs to be held in that context.
2) and Omicron rates rising absolutely has to happen since they're just now getting around to documenting it; does that mean it's just now showing up? No, it means that it's just now getting attention, so no panic when they say the rates are rising.
3) Lastly, death rates (on the the NYT website, at least) are going down again, but a doctor site I popped into the other had one of them saying "plenty of dead wood left to burn." WTF, dude?
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 4:49pm

 miamizsun wrote:

sorry to hear this 
belated condolences

{#Sad}

Thx.  It's really hard to believe so much seems on the cusp of normal, and yet~540,000 people in the US have died in the past year.

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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 3:19pm

 rgio wrote:
I just returned from the cemetery on the 1 year anniversary of my father's death...which would also belong in this thread.
 
sorry to hear this 
belated condolences

{#Sad}
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 3:14pm

First Omicron Variant Case Identified in US

The first case of the Omicron variant of the coronavirus in the United States was confirmed by officials today in an individual in California who had recently traveled to South Africa. He or she was fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and experienced only "mild symptoms that are improving," officials with the CDC said.

The patient, who was not named in the CDC's annoucement of the first U.S. case of the Omicron variant on Wednesday, is self-quarantining.

"All close contacts have been contacted and have tested negative," officials said.


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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 3:13pm

 westslope wrote:

Sounds like you were close to your great aunt Maryanne.

But why announce in the COVID-19 thread?  Did she die of the C-19 virus?


I assumed as much. 

I just returned from the cemetery on the 1 year anniversary of my father's death...which would also belong in this thread.


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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 3:08pm

Sounds like you were close to your great aunt Maryanne.

But why announce in the COVID-19 thread?  Did she die of the C-19 virus?
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 2:20pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It's taken longer than I expected but I've finally lost one of my own relations... great aunt Maryanne, 89, was a sweet lady married for 71 years to a funny guy who's an absolute RWNJ crank. But funny. Their kids are more dyed-in-the-wool MAGAs with not much of the Christian grace that their mother and my grandmother exhibited. Maryanne lived in Texas her whole life; my grandma left with grandpa for the oilfields of Wyoming in the 50s.



So sorry to hear this, Scott. 
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 10:02am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
It's taken longer than I expected but I've finally lost one of my own relations... great aunt Maryanne, 89, was a sweet lady married for 71 years to a funny guy who's an absolute RWNJ crank. But funny. Their kids are more dyed-in-the-wool MAGAs with not much of the Christian grace that their mother and my grandmother exhibited. Maryanne lived in Texas her whole life; my grandma left with grandpa for the oilfields of Wyoming in the 50s.
 {#Good-vibes}

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