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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 10:29pm

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Well, then keep beating your drum ...  Seen this movie before ...

Soon all will be revealed, but first a message from our sponsors...

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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 10:13pm

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The attention span of the public is short and short term memory ever more fleeting with all the input overload.

Still waiting for the "enormous evidence"...
 
Well, then keep beating your drum ...  Seen this movie before ...
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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 9:56pm

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The attention span of the public is short and short term memory ever more fleeting with all the input overload.

Still waiting for the "enormous evidence"...

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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 8:55pm

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I really don't get the lab furor either. 

1) It's very annoying that significant medical/safety things like this can happen and China is so dangerously secretive about it, so we cannot trust their reporting. Scary stuff.
2) The previous guy calling it the "Chinese virus" or "Wuhan flu" was just a petty, ham-handed attempt to stoke up hatred of another country. Bad sportsmanship.
3) There was so much disdain for the previous guy, and he expressed himself so poorly, that our ability to accept that it came from a Chinese lab was hindered - because we didn't want him to be right.
4) And, dammit,was he right about where it came from and how?

And because he was such a horrible statesman, such a juvenile and incompetent communicator, we couldn't see past that and it hurt us? He's such a sphincter.
 
Does this even matter ?  It wasn't allowed before.  Why now ?  The messenger was always more important than the message. Too much has been invested in making Trump always being wrong about everything.  Click bait / news feed culture. Ratings.  It works very well.  Let's impeach him before he even takes the oath of office.  We have reaped what was sown.

Hindsight is said to be 20 / 20, but that is also dependent on who is doing the refracting ...

The attention span of the public is short and short term memory ever more fleeting with all the input overload.  This is over for all intents and purposes, except in the lesser well off countries, but as far as life in America is concerned it will be in the rear view mirror.  Going forward, what really matters is how it changed our social and economic structure.  And what do we do when the next one hits.  And what if the next one is not an accident ...  No consequences for the first round makes a second round easier ...

ymmv ...
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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 7:06pm

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I also don't doubt that part of why the lab is in wuhan is that they can get away with a lot fewer restrictions/policies/oversights, and that is likely why it might be the origin.

Based on what?

Wuhan isn't some provincial collection of hovels. Fewer restrictions/policies/oversights in a city of 11 million+ people with numerous industries and scientific institutions?

"It is a major transportation hub ... sometimes referred to as "the Chicago of China" by foreign sources."

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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 6:52pm

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I really don't get the lab furor either. 

1) It's very annoying that significant medical/safety things like this can happen and China is so dangerously secretive about it, so we cannot trust their reporting. Scary stuff.
2) The previous guy calling it the "Chinese virus" or "Wuhan flu" was just a petty, ham-handed attempt to stoke up hatred of another country. Bad sportsmanship.
3) There was so much disdain for the previous guy, and he expressed himself so poorly, that our ability to accept that it came from a Chinese lab was hindered - because we didn't want him to be right.
4) And, dammit, was he right about where it came from and how? And because he was such a horrible statesman, such a juvenile and incompetent communicator, we couldn't see past that and it hurt us? He's such a sphincter.


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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 6:43pm

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This reminds me of the hyperventilating after the Ft. Hood shooting, when it seemed really important to a number of people that there be some kind of Official Designation of that event as a Terrorist Act—because that changed everything. Like...everything.

What it actually meant to those of us on this planet, what actions it should drive, what the consequences should be of this declaration was never made explicit, but it was really important.

If the Wuhan lab leaked the virus that points out the need for better practices at the lab. Heads oughta roll for it (if, again, this actually happened). I'm not qualified to judge the safety of gain-of-function experiments that apparently were going on there—and neither is anyone reading this. I'll defer to people who actually know what they're talking about for that.

I share the condemnation of the partisan media reaction to the story (expressed elsewhere), and Jon Stewart is within his competence doing media criticism. Good on him. I'm not seeing what difference it would have made to the response to the pandemic in real time tho. It came from a lab, it came from a bat...so what? It spreads the same, it kills the same. For most of us it's a historical curiosity rather than a guide for policy or behavior.

I really don't get the lab furor either. I've had a guy try to explain it several times and I think I can see the question, but it seems like the wrong time for it. Maybe once we have things actually under control in places like India and Mexico city it would be good to revisit the safety practices of the lab. I also don't doubt that part of why the lab is in wuhan is that they can get away with a lot fewer restrictions/policies/oversights, and that is likely why it might be the origin. Again, I don't see what good that does us now, and I don't think it absolves any of the idiocy we've suffered in the last year. 

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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 4:42pm

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This reminds me of the hyperventilating after the Ft. Hood shooting, when it seemed really important to a number of people that there be some kind of Official Designation of that event as a Terrorist Act—because that changed everything. Like...everything.

What it actually meant to those of us on this planet, what actions it should drive, what the consequences should be of this declaration was never made explicit, but it was really important.

If the Wuhan lab leaked the virus that points out the need for better practices at the lab. Heads oughta roll for it (if, again, this actually happened). I'm not qualified to judge the safety of gain-of-function experiments that apparently were going on there—and neither is anyone reading this. I'll defer to people who actually know what they're talking about for that.

I share the condemnation of the partisan media reaction to the story (expressed elsewhere), and Jon Stewart is within his competence doing media criticism. Good on him. I'm not seeing what difference it would have made to the response to the pandemic in real time tho. It came from a lab, it came from a bat...so what? It spreads the same, it kills the same. For most of us it's a historical curiosity rather than a guide for policy or behavior.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2021 - 3:47pm

Many Post-Covid Patients Are Experiencing New Medical Problems, Study Finds
An analysis of health insurance records of almost two million coronavirus patients found new issues in nearly a quarter — including those whose Covid infection was mild or asymptomatic.
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Posted: Jun 17, 2021 - 7:58am

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that would be really funny, if it wasn't so sad how people politicized the issue..."It can't be true, because...republicans believe it!"
Which was basically the response anytime a reasonable person discussed the "possibility" of a lab leak.
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Posted: Jun 15, 2021 - 7:36pm

It only took 24 hours to go up...

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Posted: Jun 15, 2021 - 1:28pm

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Posted: Jun 15, 2021 - 12:37pm

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Posted: Jun 14, 2021 - 10:53pm

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Yes, let's look again in a month.  Even you must admit that 18 to 64 is a very diverse group and somewhat meaningless when it comes to risk groups by age.

It seems that here, you can get a shot at will in almost any drug store or grocery with drugs now.  No obstacles.  Just personal choice now.

The curves are getting very flat it seems.  I doubt it gets above 60% statewide.  Currently almost 49%.  Well below the goal of what ? 80% for herd immunity and the official "it's over".



I just got my second shot yesterday. The vaccine roll-out in DC was NOT handled well at all. The DC government had to scrap its first attempt at building a scheduling portal and then bullied pharmacies and grocery stores to take appointments only through the second version of the portal. I tried signing up in mid-April and got very little leeway for possible open appointments in sketchy areas of the city.

I didn't take any of the first appointment opportunities and waited for the government portal to tell me when my next round of opportunities would come up, as the city promised it would do.

But it didn't! When I didn't hear back from the city early May, I started googling. Turned out the city had abandoned appointments in late April and were permitting walk-ups in major buildings like the DC Convention Center. The city sent me no update on its plans. I decided to deal with professionals and went to CVS. 

I asked the pharmacist yesterday if he'd noticed a drop-off in vaccination rates here in DC, as WaPo and other papers have reported. He said yes, but that it was picking up again. I think a lot of people put off the second shot because they thought they could slide by with just one.

There was a poignant piece in WaPo the other day about the 100,000 or so who've died since the vaccines became widely available. Some were scared, some had serious health issues, others just put it off. There's also a lot of misinformation and FUD in poorer neighborhoods. Some Black neighborhoods do not trust the medical community and are not willing or able to do their own research on COVID and and vaccines.

There's also the matter of warm weather. I think it's distracted people from the pandemic. 
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Posted: Jun 14, 2021 - 10:51pm

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I guess it follows (recent) eligibility. Whatever.

70%-80% is what's usually mentioned to halt infections from spreading. Barring complications from variants which might change the picture.



Also consider as time passes, more side affects and uncertainties regarding the safety of the vaccines will become known such as Myocarditis.  That will certainly have an impact on the decision making process.  The vaccine is pretty much a no brainer at my advanced age.  I would be having serious thoughts about it if I were under 50 though.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2021 - 10:19pm

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Yes, let's look again in a month.  Even you must admit that 18 to 64 is a very diverse group and somewhat meaningless when it comes to risk groups by age.

The curves are getting very flat it seems.  I doubt it gets above 60% statewide.  Well below the goal of what ? 80% for herd immunity and the official "it's over".

I guess it follows (recent) eligibility. Whatever.

70%-80% is what's usually mentioned to halt infections from spreading. Barring complications from variants which might change the picture.

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Posted: Jun 14, 2021 - 10:09pm

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All irrelevant (hand-waving) to your assertion that in your "local reality" the still unvaccinated have no intention of getting vaccinated:

It's still (more) BS. Let's see the numbers in a month...



Yes, let's look again in a month.  Even you must admit that 18 to 64 is a very diverse group and somewhat meaningless when it comes to risk groups by age.

It seems that here, you can get a shot at will in almost any drug store or grocery with drugs now.  No obstacles.  Just personal choice now.

The curves are getting very flat it seems.  I doubt it gets above 60% statewide.  Currently almost 49%.  Well below the goal of what ? 80% for herd immunity and the official "it's over".

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