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KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 9:03pm


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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 6:34pm



 kurtster wrote:

So what you're, by proxy, predicting is an additional 200 k USA deaths in the next two months.  

It's either fear mongering or settled science.  We'll see soon enough.  My bet is on the former.

 

It's math.  
haresfur

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 5:05pm

So an interesting tidbit from the Financial Times on the number of excess deaths in different countries. You will have to click through and scroll since I can't embed the figure.

Basically the excess deaths in the US is about 52K whereas the estimated Covid-19 deaths are nearly double that (and likely an underestimate). I speculate the difference is due to many fewer people being killed by crime and automobiles. 52 K excess deaths is BAD, particularly if you are in the population dying rather than the population not dying but I was surprised the unintended effects of the shutdown were that significant. Sure there are all sorts of sociological implications for policy makers and world-builders.


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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 3:47pm

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 3:46pm



 haresfur wrote:

You seem to have glossed over the word "could" and the caveats about changes in behaviour and testing. I'll throw a few others into the mix, I think and hope that treatment is improving as we learn more about the disease, like pronation of patients, not using hydroquinone because it increases mortality, increased PPE supplies as production ramps up. And of course there is the important one of the number of of vulnerable individuals listening to the scientists rather that Fox and Trump.

I don't know but I remember how shocked I was when it was suggested that the US fatalities could reach 100-200K. I am so sad that that number is the new normal and doesn't upset many people, especially those who could do more to prevent the worst case scenarios from happening.


 
Yeah, the country that claims to be The Greatest In The World has by far the highest number of cases and deaths. Thanks, Donnie! Yes, his utter incompetence is the reason for that.

BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 3:45pm



 haresfur wrote:

I don't know but I remember how shocked I was when it was suggested that the US fatalities could reach 100-200K. I am so sad that that number is the new normal and doesn't upset many people, especially those who could do more to prevent the worst case scenarios from happening.

 

Kinda reminds me of the returning bodies from the various wars in the Middle East. No fanfare. Keep it under wraps.

And with no public memorials, the impact of these deaths won't reach far. So it's out of our consciousness.

I mean, really. A couple of towers, every single day? And we're not shocked? We're not.

It should be a count on the evening news, every day, like Vietnam.
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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 2:27pm



 kurtster wrote:

So what you're, by proxy, predicting is an additional 200 k USA deaths in the next two months.  

It's either fear mongering or settled science.  We'll see soon enough.  My bet is on the former.

 
You seem to have glossed over the word "could" and the caveats about changes in behaviour and testing. I'll throw a few others into the mix, I think and hope that treatment is improving as we learn more about the disease, like pronation of patients, not using hydroquinone because it increases mortality, increased PPE supplies as production ramps up. And of course there is the important one of the number of of vulnerable individuals listening to the scientists rather that Fox and Trump.

I don't know but I remember how shocked I was when it was suggested that the US fatalities could reach 100-200K. I am so sad that that number is the new normal and doesn't upset many people, especially those who could do more to prevent the worst case scenarios from happening.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 1:41pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

It would be hard to label this group.  The best I can come up would be the AOC wing of the body politic or those like minded.
 
She's got newfound powers? Well whoever had the power before wasn't using it. That's how it goes. But complaining about her having powers the voters didn't give her is arguable, but doing so while the president fires people for doing their jobs and installs "acting" administrators with no qualifications? Classic Kurtster.
 

What a shame you can't pin posts here.


Kurt, do you have a model about Covid19 infections and deaths that you'd like to share with us?

And are you OK with Trump tweeting suggestions that Joe Scarborough murdered an assistant  about 20 years ago? It should be clear to even small children that Trump's trying to distract people from the coronavirus and the  tanked economy, but this attack should repulse even diehard supporters like you.
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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 11:55am

 kurtster wrote:
So what you're, by proxy, predicting is an additional 200 k USA deaths in the next two months.  

It's either fear mongering or settled science
.  We'll see soon enough.  My bet is on the former.
 
Uh-huh
.
kurtster

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 10:54am

 R_P wrote:
We predict that increased mobility following relaxation of social distancing will lead to resurgence of transmission, keeping all else constant. We predict that deaths over the next two-month period could exceed current cumulative deaths by greater than two-fold, if the relationship between mobility and transmission remains unchanged. Our results suggest that factors modulating transmission such as rapid testing, contact tracing and behavioural precautions are crucial to offset the rise of transmission associated with loosening of social distancing.

Overall, we show that while all US states have substantially reduced their reproduction numbers, we find no evidence that any state is approaching herd immunity or that its epidemic is close to over.
 
So what you're, by proxy, predicting is an additional 200 k USA deaths in the next two months.  

It's either fear mongering or settled science.  We'll see soon enough.  My bet is on the former.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 10:40am

We predict that increased mobility following relaxation of social distancing will lead to resurgence of transmission, keeping all else constant. We predict that deaths over the next two-month period could exceed current cumulative deaths by greater than two-fold, if the relationship between mobility and transmission remains unchanged. Our results suggest that factors modulating transmission such as rapid testing, contact tracing and behavioural precautions are crucial to offset the rise of transmission associated with loosening of social distancing.

Overall, we show that while all US states have substantially reduced their reproduction numbers, we find no evidence that any state is approaching herd immunity or that its epidemic is close to over.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 9:05am

 kurtster wrote:
It would be hard to label this group.  The best I can come up would be the AOC wing of the body politic or those like minded.
 
She who makes failed angry white males collectively fill their pants/diapers/stoma bags... 
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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 8:23am

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 8:01am



 kurtster wrote:

Whoooosh ............ 

It is not about AOC as it relates to this.  It is the like minded people who are elected say like the Governor of Michigan and maybe the Mayor of Los Angeles.  These people have great power over their constituents.  It is people who agree with her wish list.  I don't.  Do you ? 

So you're trying to tell me that there are not any elected state level or lower officials who do not share her goals on rearranging / reordering society ? 
 
Same weak argument.

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 7:47am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

It would be hard to label this group.  The best I can come up would be the AOC wing of the body politic or those like minded.
 
She's got newfound powers? Well whoever had the power before wasn't using it. That's how it goes. But complaining about her having powers the voters didn't give her is arguable, but doing so while the president fires people for doing their jobs and installs "acting" administrators with no qualifications? Classic Kurtster.
 
Whoooosh ............ 

It is not about AOC as it relates to this.  It is the like minded people who are elected say like the Governor of Michigan and maybe the Mayor of Los Angeles.  These people have great power over their constituents.  It is people who agree with her wish list.  I don't.  Do you ? 

So you're trying to tell me that there are not any elected state level or lower officials who do not share her goals on rearranging / reordering society ? 
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 6:30am


I'm a big sci-fi fan, but Covid? Too far-fetched

The number of ludicrous thought experiments being conducted on us is unbelievable


Well, this is all really bloody interesting, isn’t? Absolutely shitbiscuitly fascinating. Words, in fact, fail me when I attempt to describe how spafftwuntingly mesmerising every facet of life in the shuntspackled UK has become. I mean, who knew it was possible to run so many thought experiments simultaneously in the real world?

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 6:29am



 kurtster wrote:

It would be hard to label this group.  The best I can come up would be the AOC wing of the body politic or those like minded.
 
She's got newfound powers? Well whoever had the power before wasn't using it. That's how it goes. But complaining about her having powers the voters didn't give her is arguable, but doing so while the president fires people for doing their jobs and installs "acting" administrators with no qualifications? Classic Kurtster.
kurtster

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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 4:09am

 steeler wrote:

This  “faction” you are talking about are elected governors, mayors, county commissioners, etc, exercising police powers, are they not? Or are you talking about some nefarious other faction?

 
It would be hard to label this group.  The best I can come up would be the AOC wing of the body politic or those like minded.
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Posted: May 23, 2020 - 8:56pm


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Posted: May 23, 2020 - 1:21pm



 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

I have to give this a yeah, but ...  There are many who have seen Civil Liberties held in contempt by a faction and while there are some measures that the time requires, there is very little trust left in those that administer these needs for them to be seen as only temporary.  This control is being taken without voting.  This faction wants to keep this newly gained control / power over the population.  If left unchallenged, it will.  It cannot make what is temporary permanent without the consent of the governed.  This concern is well founded.
 
This  â€œfaction” you are talking about are elected governors, mayors, county commissioners, etc, exercising police powers, are they not? Or are you talking about some nefarious other faction?

 

I suspect the former. Which makes the notion idiotic.

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