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steeler

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 5:38am



 ScottN wrote:
One fact:  Almost 100,000 confirmed covid-19 fatalities in about three months with the count certainly higher if more testing had been available. Difficult to throw out stats that seem to try to minimize the reality of this number or the impact of the disease.
 

Indeed.
steeler

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 5:30am



 kurtster wrote:

Just returning all the love from your blue side that blames nearly all, if not all, USA deaths on Trump because of his "inaction". 

Just as offensive to me and with little difference.

So there.
 
There is a big difference between attributing deaths to the competence/incompetence of Trump and his administration’s response and saying or suggesting that Democrats want more deaths because that will hurt Trump’s re-election chances. 

Trump has said repeatedly that his January 30 decision to place a ban on flights from China saved hundreds of thousands  of American lives. But it is offensive to say or suggest that his administration’s inaction in February along with the early  testing failure of the CDC caused unnecessary deaths? 
haresfur

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 4:55am



 kurtster wrote:

It's the party and followers, same as the broadbrushed attachments that come with the other side by your side.

So let's pick a number.  Just how many deaths do we attribute directly to Trump ?  It is important at some point, right ?  Y'all keep talking about it.

There is certainly no problem with coming up with a number on your side.   Do you have a problem with Cuomo ?

Cuomo, NY.  He has 25 k on his hands just by what he did to the nursing homes there.  Then what about the subways ?  That is a quarter of all the USA deaths to date.

So give me a number for Trump.  You or anyone else ... I know someone is keeping score somewhere ...
 
Totally senseless and unknowable question. My point was about your statement that democrats want lots of people to die so Trump will be blamed. I'm certainly not about deflect from that and play your game so you can feel justified. 

rgio

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 4:46am



 kurtster wrote:

His number is those that died in the state's nursing homes (residents and workers) as a direct result of his executive order, which is nearly all of the NY CV 19 nursing home deaths to date.  There is an actual category for nursing homes deaths IIRC.  We just need to find a place that we agree on for the count and we're good to go.  I'll let you pick.
 
No...I'm willing to follow your lead on this.  You said "pick a number for Trump"...and I did. 

Now, I'm saying..."Pick a number for Cuomo".....your move Kurster....

kurtster

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 4:42am

 rgio wrote:


 Ok...what's the number?  Give us the Cuomo number and tell us how to track it...and we'll track it.
 
His number is those that died in the state's nursing homes (residents and workers) as a direct result of his executive order, which is nearly all of the NY CV 19 nursing home deaths to date.  There is an actual category for nursing homes deaths IIRC.  We just need to find a place that we agree on for the count and we're good to go.  I'll let you pick.
rgio

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 4:14am



 kurtster wrote:

Perfect.  I do recall this.  Thank you. 

We need to keep the number updated here on a regular basis.

And Cuomo's numbers, too.  And some others' who also screwed up their state's nursing homes ...
 
Ok...what's the number?  Give us the Cuomo number and tell us how to track it...and we'll track it.


kurtster

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 3:50am

 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:


So give me a number for Trump.  You or anyone else ... I know someone is keeping score somewhere ...
 
59,445

Trump Death Clock


 
Perfect.  I do recall this.  Thank you. 

We need to keep the number updated here on a regular basis.

And Cuomo's numbers, too.  And some others' who also screwed up their state's nursing homes ...
rgio

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 3:30am



 kurtster wrote:

It's the party and followers, same as the broadbrushed attachments that come with the other side by your side.

So let's pick a number.  Just how many deaths do we attribute directly to Trump ?  It is important at some point, right ?  Y'all keep talking about it.

There is certainly no problem with coming up with a number on your side.   Do you have a problem with Cuomo ?

Cuomo, NY.  He has 25 k on his hands just by what he did to the nursing homes there.  Then what about the subways ?  That is a quarter of all the USA deaths to date.

So give me a number for Trump.  You or anyone else ... I know someone is keeping score somewhere ...
 
59,445

Trump Death Clock


kurtster

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 3:21am

 haresfur wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

You're kidding ?  Right ?

There is one in particular who goes out of his way to say repeatedly how much blood Trump has on his hands because of his handling of this virus.  Many others post similar but more veiled thoughts on this.  Maybe you should pay more attention and call these thoughts out when you see them such as you do mine since you seem to disagree with this notion, too.  Eh ?
 

Yes I'm serious and trump can have plenty of blood on his hands without having all of it. There's plenty to go around. And nothing excuses your claiming that as a basis for thinking all democrats want people to die to defeat trump. 
 
It's the party and followers, same as the broadbrushed attachments that come with the other side by your side.

So let's pick a number.  Just how many deaths do we attribute directly to Trump ?  It is important at some point, right ?  Y'all keep talking about it.

There is certainly no problem with coming up with a number on your side.   Do you have a problem with Cuomo ?

Cuomo, NY.  He has 25 k on his hands just by what he did to the nursing homes there.  Then what about the subways ?  That is a quarter of all the USA deaths to date.

So give me a number for Trump.  You or anyone else ... I know someone is keeping score somewhere ...
kcar

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 2:59am



 kurtster wrote:

Rounding error on my part.  So what's an extra 300 k anyway when this is the opener ?

Not as bad as the original projected death rates.  The latest from the CDC is 0.26%.  The ordinary flu is 0.13%

It's just more bad news for all the blue people out there.  The less that die, the better Trump's chances are to be re elected.
New estimate by the CDC brings down the COVID- 19 death rate to just 0.26% as against WHO’s 3.4%
The new estimates of fatality rate released by the CDC are as follows for different age groups:

0-49 years old: 0.05%
50-64 years old: 0.2%
65+ years old: 1.3%
Overall ages: 0.4%

The CDC has also cautioned that the numbers are likely to change as new data arrives. But, if you consider how we have gone from 3.4 % to 2.0 % to now 0.26 %, it seems more likely that the number might get even lower as we get more data.

 

From the page you linked to, right at the bottom: 


Addendum:

The ever-growing confusion between the two numbers - 0.26 % by the CDC and 3.4% by the WHO:

Although it appears as if 0.26 % is a small fraction of the 3.4 % that the World Health Organization (WHO) originally estimated, there is a difference between the two numbers. WHO's 3.4% is the Case Fatality Rate (CFR) - the ratio of the number of deaths divided by the number of confirmed (preferably by nucleic acid testing) cases of the disease. CDC's new number 0.26% is the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), which is the ratio of deaths divided by the number of actual infections with SARS-CoV-2.

One should note that the IFR is likely to be significantly lower than the CFR since the RT- PCR testing is limited and currently available primarily to people with significant indications of and risk factors for COVID-19 disease, and because a large number of infections with SARS-CoV-2 result in only mild or even asymptomatic disease.


haresfur

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 2:39am



 kurtster wrote:

You're kidding ?  Right ?

There is one in particular who goes out of his way to say repeatedly how much blood Trump has on his hands because of his handling of this virus.  Many others post similar but more veiled thoughts on this.  Maybe you should pay more attention and call these thoughts out when you see them such as you do mine since you seem to disagree with this notion, too.  Eh ?
 

Yes I'm serious and trump can have plenty of blood on his hands without having all of it. There's plenty to go around. And nothing excuses your claiming that as a basis for thinking all democrats want people to die to defeat trump. 
kurtster

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 1:41am

 haresfur wrote:


 
I have never heard anyone blame nearly all USA deaths on trump. Certainly not here, although I'm sure that there are jerks with almost any opinion. Like I say you are being offensive, you know you are being offensive and you don't care as long as you can find a way to look past the legitimate management failures of Trump and his administration.

 
You're kidding ?  Right ?

There is one in particular who goes out of his way to say repeatedly how much blood Trump has on his hands because of his handling of this virus.  Many others post similar but more veiled thoughts on this.  Maybe you should pay more attention and call these thoughts out when you see them such as you do mine since you seem to disagree with this notion, too.  Eh ?
haresfur

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 12:39am



 kurtster wrote:

Just returning all the love from your blue side that blames nearly all, if not all, USA deaths on Trump because of his "inaction". 

Just as offensive to me and with little difference.

So there.
 
I have never heard anyone blame nearly all USA deaths on trump. Certainly not here, although I'm sure that there are jerks with almost any opinion. Like I say you are being offensive, you know you are being offensive and you don't care as long as you can find a way to look past the legitimate management failures of Trump and his administration.

kurtster

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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 12:21am

 haresfur wrote:

Saying that democrats want people to die is beyond offensive, but you know that. And I will keep calling you out for it, even though you will likely justify being shitty because some wounded feelings from something or other sometime.

 
Just returning all the love from your blue side that blames nearly all, if not all, USA deaths on Trump because of his "inaction". 

Just as offensive to me and with little difference.

So there.
ScottN

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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 9:25pm

One fact:  Almost 100,000 confirmed covid-19 fatalities in about three months with the count certainly higher if more testing had been available. Difficult to throw out stats that seem to try to minimize the reality of this number or the impact of the disease.
haresfur

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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 3:29pm



 kurtster wrote:

Rounding error on my part.  So what's an extra 300 k anyway when this is the opener ?

Not as bad as the original projected death rates.  The latest from the CDC is 0.26%.  The ordinary flu is 0.13%

It's just more bad news for all the blue people out there.  The less that die, the better Trump's chances are to be re elected.
New estimate by the CDC brings down the COVID- 19 death rate to just 0.26% as against WHO’s 3.4%
The new estimates of fatality rate released by the CDC are as follows for different age groups:

0-49 years old: 0.05%
50-64 years old: 0.2%
65+ years old: 1.3%
Overall ages: 0.4%

The CDC has also cautioned that the numbers are likely to change as new data arrives. But, if you consider how we have gone from 3.4 % to 2.0 % to now 0.26 %, it seems more likely that the number might get even lower as we get more data.

 
That's the wonderful thing about the situation. There's always something good to hang your hat on. Of course the death rate goes down as you look outside the hospitals (especially if you don't look too hard inside the aged care facilities). But yes, this is good news as long as the number of hospitalised cases continues to decrease and as long as the authorities don't try to game the system on how they define deaths due to the virus.

Saying that democrats want people to die is beyond offensive, but you know that. And I will keep calling you out for it, even though you will likely justify being shitty because some wounded feelings from something or other sometime.

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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 2:26pm

 kurtster wrote:
It's just more bad news for all the blue people out there.  The less that die, the better Trump's chances are to be re elected.


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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 1:32pm

south korea's top doc gives his ongoing take

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kurtster

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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 1:30pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
We were supposed to get up to 2 ½ million dead in the USA...
 
Looks like you added 0.3 million... The bigger, the better?
 
Rounding error on my part.  So what's an extra 300 k anyway when this is the opener ?

Not as bad as the original projected death rates.  The latest from the CDC is 0.26%.  The ordinary flu is 0.13%

It's just more bad news for all the blue people out there.  The less that die, the better Trump's chances are to be re elected.
New estimate by the CDC brings down the COVID- 19 death rate to just 0.26% as against WHO’s 3.4%

The new estimates of fatality rate released by the CDC are as follows for different age groups:

0-49 years old: 0.05%
50-64 years old: 0.2%
65+ years old: 1.3%
Overall ages: 0.4%

The CDC has also cautioned that the numbers are likely to change as new data arrives. But, if you consider how we have gone from 3.4 % to 2.0 % to now 0.26 %, it seems more likely that the number might get even lower as we get more data.

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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 12:27pm

Jair Bolsonaro’s populism is leading Brazil to disaster
On a visit to Brazil last year, I had a chat with a prominent financier about the parallels between Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro.

“They are very similar,” she said, before adding: “But Bolsonaro is much stupider.” This answer took me aback since the US president is not generally regarded as a towering intellect. But my banker friend was insistent. “Look,” she said. “Trump has run a major business. Bolsonaro never made it above captain in the army.”

The coronavirus pandemic has reminded me of that observation. Brazil’s president has taken an approach that is strikingly similar to that of Mr Trump — but even more irresponsible and dangerous. Both leaders have become obsessed with the supposedly curative properties of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine. But while Mr Trump is merely taking it himself, Mr Bolsonaro has forced the Brazilian health ministry to issue new guidelines, recommending the drug for coronavirus patients. The US president has squabbled with his scientific advisers. But Mr Bolsonaro has sacked one health minister and provoked his replacement to resign. Mr Trump has expressed sympathy for anti-lockdown protesters; Mr Bolsonaro has addressed their rallies.

Sadly, Brazil is already paying a high price for its president’s antics — and things are getting worse fast. Coronavirus hit Brazil relatively late. But the country has the second-highest infection rate in the world and the sixth-highest recorded Covid-19 deaths. The number of deaths in Brazil, which accounts for roughly half the population of South America, is now doubling every two weeks, compared with every two months in the hard-hit UK. (...)

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