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Posted: Apr 8, 2020 - 11:47am

Opinion: What the doctors and nurses who beat back the coronavirus in Wuhan want you to know about their months in hell

Published: April 8, 2020 at 12:24 p.m. ETBy

Insofar as China has achieved a ‘victory’ over the coronavirus, it has come at a massive and lasting human cost

AUSTIN, Texas (Project Syndicate) — Dr. Li, a heart specialist at Wuhan No. 4 Hospital, spent the third week of March preparing for the reopening of the hospital’s general clinics, which closed on Jan. 22, when No. 4 became a key facility for treating COVID-19 patients.

After working for two months on the front lines of the coronavirus outbreak, Li is mentally and psychologically at a loss about what to do next. He can’t sleep or eat, he often feels dazed, and sometimes, seemingly out of nowhere, he weeps.

Li’s trauma stands in stark contrast to the image projected by China’s media, which is filled with articles and broadcasts glorifying the government’s response to the epidemic. Amid so much exultation, Li is increasingly reluctant to express fears or concerns to others around him. He has become a different man — one who understands that “life is fragile and weak.”


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-the-doctors-and-nurses-who-beat-back-the-coronavirus-in-wuhan-want-you-to-know-about-their-months-in-hell-2020-04-08?siteid=bnbh

westslope

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Posted: Apr 8, 2020 - 8:07am



 Steely_D wrote:


 westslope wrote:


 
Pasted:  Obesity is associated with vitamin D deficiency (25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) <50 nmol/l).

If one is worried about Vitamin D:

1)  Do lots of outdoor exercise

2)  Eat lots of fatty fish such as Pacific salmon

 

That latter part is absolutely true. And it's a good time to remind folks about studies that show "association."

For instance, did you know that low cholesterol is associated with increased subsequent criminal violence?

It's true.

Be careful when you read stories in the press. Their minds are filled with big ideas, images, and distorted faaaaaacts.
 

True.  There is no rigorous data to support Vitamin D as some kind of defence against COVID-19.  Thank you for pointing that out Steely_D.

Health outcomes seem to matter but even there maybe I am getting ahead of myself.  
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Posted: Apr 8, 2020 - 7:35am



 R_P wrote:

 
I hate spline curves

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 10:19pm


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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 4:52pm

Trade Adviser Warned White House in January of Risks of a Pandemic

A memo from Peter Navarro is the most direct warning known to have circulated at a key moment among top administration officials.

A top White House adviser starkly warned Trump administration officials in late January that the coronavirus crisis could cost the United States trillions of dollars and put millions of Americans at risk of illness or death.

The warning, written in a memo by Peter Navarro, President Trump’s trade adviser, is the highest-level alert known to have circulated inside the West Wing as the administration was taking its first substantive steps to confront a crisis that had already consumed China’s leaders and would go on to upend life in Europe and the United States.

“The lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on U.S. soil,” Mr. Navarro’s memo said. “This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.”

Dated Jan. 29, it came during a period when Mr. Trump was playing down the risks to the United States, and he would later go on to say that no one could have predicted such a devastating outcome.

...
The January memo written by Mr. Navarro was dated the same day that Mr. Trump named the task force to deal with the threat, and as the administration was weighing whether to bar some travelers from China, an option being pushed by Mr. Navarro.

Mr. Trump would approve the limits on travel from China the next day, though it would be weeks before he began taking more aggressive steps to head off spread of the virus.

...

The memo, which was reviewed by The New York Times, was sent from Mr. Navarro to the National Security Council and then distributed to several officials across the administration, people familiar with the events said. It reached a number of top officials as well as aides to Mick Mulvaney, then the acting chief of staff, they said, but it was unclear whether Mr. Trump saw it.






haresfur

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 4:40pm

Report from Oz.

Things seem oddly normal to me. The advantage of not having friends is that you don't miss them. I can still get coffee from my two favourite cafes and many stores are open but the smaller places tend to be shut. Scored a liter of hand sanitizer from the eucalyptus distillery and got extra for my barista but it turns out she has a shipment being delivered. Got to keep her healthy.  They are restricting the number of people in the stores. My IGA hands out gloves on your way in but Aldi does not. My doctor wants to see me about a routine follow-up and I will probably go in if she can give me my flu shot, otherwise I may see if she wants to do it on the phone, since the government changed rules allowing doctors to bill for that.

I have made adjustments. Decided to have my car serviced by the local backyard mechanic rather than the place in town because he will be the only one in and out of the car. Work from home but can still go into the office if needed. The rules seem to be all over the place on fieldwork. Some projects can do it, others can't. I figure I might as well keep working to make up for the hit to my retirement funds. Overall, pretty blessed, in spite of the uncertainty. Going to pay off the mortgage since it's probably the best investment for now.

Australia is somewhere between Germany and Sweden in terms of how restrictive they are about social distancing. My dog park is still open although they are closed in many parts of the country. Beaches are mostly closed because they were being mobbed by bored people. Got to love the Aussie spirit - when in doubt go to the beach. Government is encouraging people to exercise. I thought they probably weren't doing enough but the curve is flattening. The federal government got off to a slow start and there have been some major stuff-ups. But then they came out with dire predictions to get people to take it seriously. I'm sure they will then take credit for things turning out better than the worst scenarios. Sound familiar?

Peace, peeps.
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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 3:33pm

 rgio wrote:
On the same day Larry Kudlow said coronavirus was “contained” on Feb. 25th, Trump’s new WH Press Secretary  Kayleigh McEnany made an even bolder claim.
Is it insane to look back on the days of Spicer and Sanders with a longing for intelligence?
 
Totally contained!

430,000 People Have Traveled From China to U.S. Since Coronavirus Surfaced
There were 1,300 direct flights to 17 cities before President Trump’s travel restrictions. Since then, nearly 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip, some this past week and many with spotty screening.
rgio

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 3:09pm

On the same day Larry Kudlow said coronavirus was “contained” on Feb. 25th, Trump’s new WH Press Secretary  Kayleigh McEnany made an even bolder claim.
Is it insane to look back on the days of Spicer and Sanders with a longing for intelligence?
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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 2:56pm

Reporting from the front. I started treating people right at the beginning of the AIDS crisis (when it was still GRID - Gay Related Immune Disease) and this echoes my experience in the Bay Area, where it was so widespread, untreatable, and final:


haresfur

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 2:46pm



 miamizsun wrote:

Jack Dorsey commits $1B of his Square equity to fighting coronavirus

CNBC’s Kate Rooney reports that Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has committed $1 billion of his Square equity to fighting the coronavirus.

 


Good on him.

"A billion dollars here, a billion dollars there, and pretty soon you're talking real money." — Everett McKinley Dirksen
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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 1:47pm

Jack Dorsey commits $1B of his Square equity to fighting coronavirus

CNBC’s Kate Rooney reports that Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has committed $1 billion of his Square equity to fighting the coronavirus.

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 11:40am

 Steely_D wrote:


 westslope wrote:


 
Pasted:  Obesity is associated with vitamin D deficiency (25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D)
If one is worried about Vitamin D:

1)  Do lots of outdoor exercise

2)  Eat lots of fatty fish such as Pacific salmon

 

That latter part is absolutely true. And it's a good time to remind folks about studies that show "association."

For instance, did you know that low cholesterol is associated with increased subsequent criminal violence?

It's true.

Be careful when you read stories in the press. Their minds are filled with big ideas, images, and distorted faaaaaacts.
 
Vito D deficiency is common amongst cancer patients, especially those dealing with radiation.  Coming out of transplant, I was told to stay out of the sun for an entire year.  My skin was blackened from all of the chemo.  Somewhere along the line, my GP (PCP) tested me and my level was at 15 (good ranged from 25 to 90).  It is a special test that must be requested and requires a separate blood draw for testing that takes about 3 days to resolve.  So I started taking 5,000 iu's and cracked 25 and was somewhere around 30.  I then bumped my daily up to 10,000 iu's per day, in the form of liquid gel caps figuring that it would get me up to around 50.

When my cancer came back after 8 years it was decided that I would need radiation as part of the post op treatment.  Part of the prep included a specific advisory about how radiation patients end up with a Vito D deficiency.  I was again tested and found that I was at 60, right where I was trying to be with my daily 10,000 iu's regimen.

I cannot say what is good for anyone in particular, except to go to your doctor and get tested.  You may have to lobby for a test and it might be expensive.  I have no idea how much it costs, but being a separate test, that is likely.  One thing I can speculate with a level of certainty is that anything less than 5,000 iu's is a waste of time and your money.  Vito D3 is very inexpensive overall, but only the liquid form is going to be effective.  Also during the radiation prep, I was told that Vito D3 is fat soluble and must be taken with food in order to be properly absorbed.

One heartening thing I learned from my most recent hospitalization is that Vito D was available in house through the hospital's own formulary as was Vito C and zinc, the latter two I have been taking for decades as a preventive measure against the cold virus and they, too are also very inexpensive.  50 mg zinc and 1,000 mg of Vito C with rosehips.  Interestingly, these two items were also available through the hospital formulary now as well.  Even though listed as part of my regular daily meds on file, I had to ask for them.  I tried to get Turmeric but the hospital's pharmacy did not stock that.  Interestingly as well is that I have begun to hear about the inclusion of zinc as part of the things being used to treat CV 19. 

Regarding the part about cholesterol, makes sense to me as it is my understanding that the brain is composed of around 75% cholesterol.  That info makes me nervous about statin drugs that try and reduce cholesterol levels overall.  I am currently battling my GP about taking Crestor.  My work around is aged garlic extract.  We'll see how my levels are taking that instead next test.

Eh ?  What do I know ... 

ymmv ...
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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 11:23am

These charts show who’s most vulnerable to the coronavirus

Isabeau

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 9:36am



 

miamizsun wrote:


 


i have taken a lot of interest in exponential and disruptive technology for a few years (of course with social media everything new can quickly become a buzzword)

and if we want to see something come under scrutiny, just inject politics
my thoughts are that most politicians have little or no credibility so when they parrot something back regardless of evidence in comes under attack/distortion

everyone it would seem lives for those gotcha moments (not always but usually taken out of context)
it's all about one-liners and zingers for ratings/bias confirmation etc.



Steely_D

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 9:33am



 westslope wrote:


 
Pasted:  Obesity is associated with vitamin D deficiency (25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) <50 nmol/l).

If one is worried about Vitamin D:

1)  Do lots of outdoor exercise

2)  Eat lots of fatty fish such as Pacific salmon

 

That latter part is absolutely true. And it's a good time to remind folks about studies that show "association."

For instance, did you know that low cholesterol is associated with increased subsequent criminal violence?

It's true.

Be careful when you read stories in the press. Their minds are filled with big ideas, images, and distorted faaaaaacts.
westslope

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 9:11am



 miamizsun wrote:
i really don't have anything politically partisan to say/post at the moment (as soon as i find something helpful in that category you all will be the first to know)

however, i've grown to like this dr. john fellow    
....



 
Thanks m.  From Dr. John Fellow, I followed references to this:  Impact of gender on vitamin D deficiency in morbidly obese patients: A cross-sectional study

Pasted:  Obesity is associated with vitamin D deficiency (25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) <50 nmol/l).

If one is worried about Vitamin D:

1)  Do lots of outdoor exercise

2)  Eat lots of fatty fish such as Pacific salmon

miamizsun

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 9:02am



 rgio wrote:



So what's really interesting is the speed at which his name is now being used as a proxy for epidemiological competency.   A lot of people are touting the cure using his name, yet he's focused on practical steps to limit the damage and slow the spread.   He's been saying June as the possible re-start for the country for weeks, and knows the best way to protect the economy is to limit the spread.

 



i have taken a lot of interest in exponential and disruptive technology for a few years (of course with social media everything new can quickly become a buzzword)

and if we want to see something come under scrutiny, just inject politics

my thoughts are that most politicians have little or no credibility so when they parrot something back regardless of evidence in comes under attack/distortion

everyone it would seem lives for those gotcha moments (not always but usually taken out of context)

it's all about one-liners and zingers for ratings/bias confirmation etc.

i haven't consumed or retained all that has been said, but i think they/centivax/distributed bio have been working toward a viable multi-purpose vaccine for some time now

and lots of other stuff too so they've got some experience

 here's a video from/featuring his co-worker sara ives

enjoy


rgio

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 8:44am



 miamizsun wrote:


 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

IIRC, the Gates Foundation have invested in lots of biotech companies. I'm pretty sure they'd have the resources to ramp something like this up pretty quickly. Why the military does the testing does sound kind of strange, but hell, strange times and all that.
 

several reasons but one is distributed bio didn't want the virus in their lab

edit: i thought i heard gates say they're already in the process of building facilities to scale this up (i guess we'll see soon)
 
So what's really interesting is the speed at which his name is now being used as a proxy for epidemiological competency.   A lot of people are touting the cure using his name, yet he's focused on practical steps to limit the damage and slow the spread.   He's been saying June as the possible re-start for the country for weeks, and knows the best way to protect the economy is to limit the spread.

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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 8:31am



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

IIRC, the Gates Foundation have invested in lots of biotech companies. I'm pretty sure they'd have the resources to ramp something like this up pretty quickly. Why the military does the testing does sound kind of strange, but hell, strange times and all that.
 

several reasons but one is distributed bio didn't want the virus in their lab

edit: i thought i heard gates say they're already in the process of building facilities to scale this up (i guess we'll see soon)
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Posted: Apr 7, 2020 - 8:29am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:



I understand how it is supposed to work but AFAIK the words "virus" and "cure" are never spoken together.
 

depends on what definition you're using

better/best solutions will take some time

usually there are steps or bridges

immediate therapeutics that are available

this treatment and others like it, possibly by september/october

best case we'd like a vaccine asap (but that is 12-18 mos out)

i'm hoping like hell the first world comes up with something doable soon for developing countries

it hurts to see what is happening here now (and other countries with fairly good resources)

what could happen in poor countries would  likely be much worse

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