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Posted: Jan 19, 2020 - 12:23pm

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1972 was the first election that I voted in.  I voted for McGovern.  Similar scenario yes, but the times are much different and very much the same this time around.  There was a war in Viet Nam and the draft.  Those were the two biggest factors in determining my vote back then.
 
1972 was my first election also. I joined the county McGovern campaign in Texas. The war & the draft, yep .... and I was drafted in the very last draft in late 1972. I decided I wasn't going to dodge the draft or go to the jungle, so I enlisted in the Navy & picked an aviation MOS (air traffic controller) figuring North Vietnam didn't have a navy or airforce, so as long I didn't take liberty in Saigon & didn't fall off the boat (people do) I'd survive. Ended up never setting foot on a Navy vessel & never left the States, as the war for us ended in 1975, halfway through my 4-year stint. So my plan pretty much worked. As far as McGovern goes, he was stomped but 2 years later Nixon resigned, so there's that. And I'm categorized as a Vietnam Era Veteran, having enlisted during the conflict, which is different from "Vietnam Vet", for those deployed In Country or on a ship participating in the conflict.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2020 - 5:24am

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If it ends up being Trump vs. Sanders, is this not deja vu 1972?  Well at least we have very clear choices ala Nixon and McGovern and we will also have the same result.  If you think about it the notion of voting for any of these 4 men is equally ridiculous.  Makes one uber cynical and Machiavellian in regards to politics and politicians.   Humanity will pay for our arrogance and insolence, best to keep it at arms reach and take care of you and your'n best you can till your time comes.{#Meditate}
 
1972 was the first election that I voted in.  I voted for McGovern.  Similar scenario yes, but the times are much different and very much the same this time around.  There was a war in Viet Nam and the draft.  Those were the two biggest factors in determining my vote back then.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2020 - 4:51am

Elizabeth Warren 🤙🌟👑. Ref: Indy100 article by Sirena Bergman!!!
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Posted: Jan 18, 2020 - 4:32am

If it ends up being Trump vs. Sanders, is this not deja vu 1972?  Well at least we have very clear choices ala Nixon and McGovern and we will also have the same result.  If you think about it the notion of voting for any of these 4 men is equally ridiculous.  Makes one uber cynical and Machiavellian in regards to politics and politicians.   Humanity will pay for our arrogance and insolence, best to keep it at arms reach and take care of you and your'n best you can till your time comes.{#Meditate}
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Posted: Dec 4, 2019 - 7:23am



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I don't know how to fix it.  We have a problem. Joe Biden (somewhat ironically) actually tipped us off to the problem when he said "show me your budget and I'll tell you what you value".

Yes, it's different as a percentage of GDP, but I'd say that regardless of gdp, we would be better off spending less on blowing stuff up.  Yes, it's a jobs program, but why not a peace corps? Or simply a civilian infrastructure support company that would enable our economy?  When we spend so much on a military hammer, we look for a military nail to use it on. Let's spend on some real hammers and nails and see if we can make some nice stuff instead. Maybe give some of that stuff away to people who are mad at us for blowing up their stuff so they will spend less trying to blow our stuff up?

I'm not the only one. But I do feel like I'm in the minority.
 

Around here, Bernie Sanders is the "free stuff" guy. Nothing is free, it's simply a matter of what you choose to spend the money on; he would rather it be spent on improving the lives of people instead of slaughtering them.
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Posted: Dec 4, 2019 - 7:12am



 islander wrote:



I don't know how to fix it.  We have a problem. Joe Biden (somewhat ironically) actually tipped us off to the problem when he said "show me your budget and I'll tell you what you value".


 
Interesting to note, combining our spending with our "allies & partners" we are out spending Russia and China more than 3:1

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Posted: Dec 4, 2019 - 7:00am



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my rants on rp?

it's the only on demand therapy i can afford



 



i'm trying to understand why people feel the need to tell everyone else what to do and how to live

to the point of initiating violence on peaceful peeps

and really think that's some sort of answer or excuse to have at it

force, violence and coercion?

disgusting...

and nothing else matters until you stop threatening, harming and whacking folks

when leaders use violence on peaceful people they lose all trust and credibility

and if you don't have those you're not a leader

or something like that

ill have to run it by OV to make sure it's philosophically correct




I don't know how to fix it.  We have a problem. Joe Biden (somewhat ironically) actually tipped us off to the problem when he said "show me your budget and I'll tell you what you value".

Yes, it's different as a percentage of GDP, but I'd say that regardless of gdp, we would be better off spending less on blowing stuff up.  Yes, it's a jobs program, but why not a peace corps? Or simply a civilian infrastructure support company that would enable our economy?  When we spend so much on a military hammer, we look for a military nail to use it on. Let's spend on some real hammers and nails and see if we can make some nice stuff instead. Maybe give some of that stuff away to people who are mad at us for blowing up their stuff so they will spend less trying to blow our stuff up?

I'm not the only one. But I do feel like I'm in the minority.
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Posted: Dec 4, 2019 - 5:20am

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You do not need any.  Sounds like you summed it up quite accurately and succinctly. It's not cynicism if it's true.
 

my rants on rp?

it's the only on demand therapy i can afford

regarding politics?

i'm trying to understand why people feel the need to tell everyone else what to do and how to live

to the point of initiating violence on peaceful peeps

and really think that's some sort of answer or excuse to have at it

force, violence and coercion?

disgusting...

and nothing else matters until you stop threatening, harming and whacking folks

when leaders use violence on peaceful people they lose all trust and credibility

and if you don't have those you're not a leader

or something like that

ill have to run it by OV to make sure it's philosophically correct


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Posted: Dec 4, 2019 - 5:00am



 miamizsun wrote:


in most politics it's all about your story and storytelling skills

it's an emotional sales job (usually fairy tales* for socially trained/conditioned adults)

just have a good sales pitch that appeals to the masses and the approval of corporations/tribes (media, unions, industry, welfarians, etc.)

once elected you can do almost anything as long as you grease/reward your voters (it's mainly about the short term)

you can borrow and spend into oblivion with reckless abandon, murder innocent people with flying robots, etc. doesn't matter

as long as you smile, look good, speak well and payoff or promise to payoff the people who vote

same stage, same basic framework with different characters


*Fairy Tales are stories involving fantastic forces, usually good versus evil, most originating in folklore, mythology, and legend. They feature fantasy beings like dragons, dwarfs, fairies and talking animals. They aren't just for kids. In fact, many are complex morality tales; some are graphic or morbid, and shouldn't be read to children at all. We recommend previewing stories before reading with your children.
i've noticed that those paying proper attention the general thought is politicians are full of poop and have little or no credibility

politics has a huge credibility issue

not sure where i'm going with this

please help...

 

You do not need any.  Sounds like you summed it up quite accurately and succinctly. It's not cynicism if it's true.
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Posted: Dec 4, 2019 - 4:25am

 haresfur wrote:
My basic opinion was that she would make a great president but a not so great candidate
 

in most politics it's all about your story and storytelling skills

it's an emotional sales job (usually fairy tales* for socially trained/conditioned adults)

just have a good sales pitch that appeals to the masses and the approval of corporations/tribes (media, unions, industry, welfarians, etc.)

once elected you can do almost anything as long as you grease/reward your voters (it's mainly about the short term)

you can borrow and spend into oblivion with reckless abandon, murder innocent people with flying robots, etc. doesn't matter

as long as you smile, look good, speak well and payoff or promise to payoff the people who vote

same stage, same basic framework with different characters


*Fairy Tales
 are stories involving fantastic forces, usually good versus evil, most originating in folklore, mythology, and legend. They feature fantasy beings like dragons, dwarfs, fairies and talking animals. They aren't just for kids. In fact, many are complex morality tales; some are graphic or morbid, and shouldn't be read to children at all. We recommend previewing stories before reading with your children.
i've noticed that those paying proper attention the general thought is politicians are full of poop and have little or no credibility

politics has a huge credibility issue

not sure where i'm going with this

please help...

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Posted: Dec 3, 2019 - 4:03pm



 miamizsun wrote:
 

My basic opinion was that she would make a great president but a not so great candidate
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Posted: Dec 3, 2019 - 2:12pm

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Posted: Oct 29, 2019 - 10:15am



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Let's hope they're correct.
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Posted: Oct 29, 2019 - 10:00am

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Posted: Oct 2, 2019 - 9:44am



 sirdroseph wrote:

Not within reason, within context.
 
I know what you mean; it is healthy when members stir things up in their own parties.  Sometimes it doesn't work out so well at first for some people but generally it is best to make the "old guard" uncomfortable.

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Posted: Oct 2, 2019 - 9:37am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
 I also believe that Marianne crazy chick is important as well.  She brings a new way of discussing politics to the table.  

 

Since when is batshit crazy new to politics?
 
Oh they all crazy I guess, it is the way she is crazy that is appealing.{#Propeller}
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Posted: Oct 2, 2019 - 9:35am



 sirdroseph wrote:
 I also believe that Marianne crazy chick is important as well.  She brings a new way of discussing politics to the table.  

 

Since when is batshit crazy new to politics?
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Posted: Oct 2, 2019 - 9:34am

 Proclivities wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
I like the way you think.  My gut steers in her direction as well and I also believe that Marianne crazy chick is important as well.  She brings a new way of discussing politics to the table.  Unfortunately neither of these candidates will sniff the nomination, but it is important for unique candidates like them to be heard.  I like it when candidates make their parties feel uncomfortable, we need more of that.
 

Well, within reason, I guess.  Any party could do without someone like Roy Moore as a member.
 
Not within reason, within context.
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