âGettysburg, what an unbelievable battle that was. The Battle of Gettysburg,â the former president said at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. âWhat an unbelievable â I mean, it was so much and so interesting, and so vicious and horrible, and so beautiful in so many different ways.â
âGettysburg. Wow. I go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, to look and to watch. And the statement of Robert E. Lee â whoâs no longer in favor, did you ever notice that? No longer in favor â âNever fight uphill, me boys, never fight uphill.â They were fighting uphill. He said, âWow, that was a big mistake.â He lost his great general, and they were fighting. âNever fight uphill, me boys!â But it was too late.â
...yeah, Joe must be quaking in his boots with the prospect of debating Trump.
It still boggles the mind that this nitwit who can't think on his feet and string together coherent sentences was our president.
Pick up a book a-hole, or get someone on your staff to provide you with some cliff notes about the place you are visiting so you will have some idea of what to talk about.
Reminds me of oral quizzes in high school where the person answering a question has no idea what they are talking about and are trying their best to bullsh*t their way through it.
Biden could not possibly have gotten that many votes. No way he beat Trump. The only explanation is massive fraud.
Biden is out of it. No way he could be coherent in a debate. The only explanation is he must be taking Adderall.
He is both a senile doddering old fool AND a strategic genius with his puppets to accomplish his every evil whim.
We all know that it was only true of one person in our lifetimes.
That's how he got through the SOTU. He was wired. Like a whole jar of Adderall.
Make them both pee in a cup before the debates.
You've even adopted Trump's fascination with pee. You are truly a loyal soldier.
Trump would just buy clean pee, and if anything was found it in, you'd blame the deep state and Soros. We should wring out Trump's diaper to ensure sourcing.
First Joe has to actually show up to debate Trump. As it stands now, I doubt he would. If he did show up, I have no doubt Trump will mop the floor with him.
I have no doubt that you would think trump mopped the floor with him, no matter what is said in the debate
Good to see you have agreed with the premise â if Biden is out of it, Trump surely would win a debate between them overwhelmingly. There is no doubt that a person suffering from dementia, to the point of appearing to be out of it, would not fare well in any debate.
Not coincidentally, Trump and his supporters have been providing a purported reason why Trump might not easily and overwhelmingly defeat Biden in a debate â Joeâs on drugs!
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Posted:
Apr 30, 2024 - 11:16am
kurtster wrote:
First Joe has to actually show up to debate Trump. As it stands now, I doubt he would. If he did show up, I have no doubt Trump will mop the floor with him.
Good to see you have agreed with the premise â if Biden is out of it, Trump surely would win a debate between them overwhelmingly. There is no doubt that a person suffering from dementia, to the point of appearing to be out of it, would not fare well in any debate.
Not coincidentally, Trump and his supporters have been providing a purported reason why Trump might not easily and overwhelmingly defeat Biden in a debate â Joeâs on drugs!
So after leaving comments here... I was presented with a link to this podcast.
NOTE: skip to about the 10 min. mark if you want to get to the interview, and not the pre-discussion ramblings.
Obama is the Alpha in the room, but when Biden interacts with the hosts (Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett)... he's thoughtful, lucid, and provides a level of insight.
I don't love the politics of these guys all the time, but it's refreshing to hear a conversation about issues and the difficulties in finding solutions. Trump is uniquely incapable of engaging in such focused and thoughtful conversation... he just complains, blames, and then uses superlatives to describe all of the great things he's going to do... without an ounce of detail or support.
If you want to have a debate, you should have real-time fact checkers supporting multiple hosts... who can revisit any statement made previously with a sort of "rebuttal". Mr. Biden...you said this, yet the numbers say that...please explain. Mr. Trump, you said this...but the facts are ..., please respond. That level of detailed information would never be acceptable to Trump.
We had a moderator intervene on behalf of Obama during one of his debates with Romney and actually made a false fact check claim on behalf of Obama and it turned out to be a game changer against Romney, IIRC.
Biden will say that the border was secure and under control during his tenure. And that is the party line as well as the legacy media narrative which has supported Biden the entire time. Trump will say that it is wide open and was during Biden's term. And nearly everyone here will also agree that the border was secure under Biden. Few believe that there is anything such as an illegal immigrant / alien even though that is the legal term in our law.
Yet we know that 11 million people have entered illegally under Biden.
No, if you can't respect the rules for a debate and communicate like and adult, you shouldn't be running for the role of leader of the government. That should be the standard.
So knowing that there is zero chance Trump would ever act like an adult... why debate him?
Not a single viewer would learn anything, and the personal biases of the viewers would only reinforce their frustration with the other candidate.
No, if you can't respect the rules for a debate and communicate like and adult, you shouldn't be running for the role of leader of the government. That should be the standard.
If Biden is out of it, as you and others claim, Trump should have no trouble winning a debate with him overwhelmingly. I mean, if you canât win a debate overwhelmingly against an opponent with dementia, what does that say about you? We shall see if a lie is exposed or a truth is confirmed. I see chickens coming home to roost.
2 things...
The Right continues to set the bar so low, that Joe looks very good on stage. 60% of the State of the Union viewers thought Joe did well. He's always been deliberate and boring as a speak, but the right wants to say he's senile. He's no more senile than Trump (note that Kurt ignores the facts posted about this below... doesn't fit the cult narrative, ignore and repeat approved rhetoric).
Maybe more importantly, why bother? Nothing Trump will say is going to be based on reality or fact. He'll interrupt everything, he'll avoid any real answers, and he'll whine about how the system is rigged to get him. Trump won't "mop up anything" as Kurt suggests...it will just be 90 minutes of noise. There will be no debate.
If you want to have a debate, you should have real-time fact checkers supporting multiple hosts... who can revisit any statement made previously with a sort of "rebuttal". Mr. Biden...you said this, yet the numbers say that...please explain. Mr. Trump, you said this...but the facts are ..., please respond. That level of detailed information would never be acceptable to Trump.
I would also not debate with Trump unless you can shut off his microphone when he's not answering a question.
It's amusing to see the guy who avoided all of the Republican debates now talking about how important they are.
I did. And my money is on dementia, too. Cannibals ate his uncle. Reads stage directions from the teleprompter out loud. Shaking hands with invisible people. Doesn't know which way to go when leaving a stage. Easter Bunny has to keep him on task. Kiddie stairs on Air Force One. Escorts from Marine One to shield him from view walking across the lawn to and from the WH. The list just keeps on growing.
If Biden is out of it, as you and others claim, Trump should have no trouble winning a debate with him overwhelmingly. I mean, if you can’t win a debate overwhelmingly against an opponent with dementia, what does that say about you? We shall see if a lie is exposed or a truth is confirmed. I see chickens coming home to roost.
First Joe has to actually show up to debate Trump. As it stands now, I doubt he would. If he did show up, I have no doubt Trump will mop the floor with him.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Apr 29, 2024 - 7:19pm
kurtster wrote:
I did. And my money is on dementia, too.
Cannibals ate his uncle. Reads stage directions from the teleprompter out loud. Shaking hands with invisible people. Doesn't know which way to go when leaving a stage. Easter Bunny has to keep him on task. Kiddie stairs on Air Force One. Escorts from Marine One to shield him from view walking across the lawn to and from the WH. The list just keeps on growing.
If Biden is out of it, as you and others claim, Trump should have no trouble winning a debate with him overwhelmingly. I mean, if you canât win a debate overwhelmingly against an opponent with dementia, what does that say about you? We shall see if a lie is exposed or a truth is confirmed. I see chickens coming home to roost.
I did. And my money is on dementia, too. Cannibals ate his uncle. Reads stage directions from the teleprompter out loud. Shaking hands with invisible people. Doesn't know which way to go when leaving a stage. Easter Bunny has to keep him on task. Kiddie stairs on Air Force One. Escorts from Marine One to shield him from view walking across the lawn to and from the WH. The list just keeps on growing.
