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Posted: Feb 6, 2023 - 1:18pm

 miamizsun wrote:
 Proclivities wrote:

Yeah, essentially it means "popular music".  I remember over the years they would have some broad explanations of how their nominees fit the definition(s).
when can we have slim whitman nominated/inducted?
he practically invented western yodel rock and inspired george harrison, paul mccartney, rob zombie and maybe weird al yankovic 
 
Slim was a one of a kind for sure. Love that guy. Also he was Andy Kaufmans favorite singer...
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Posted: Feb 6, 2023 - 11:46am

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Posted: Feb 6, 2023 - 11:25am

 Proclivities wrote:

Yeah, essentially it means "popular music".  I remember over the years they would have some broad explanations of how their nominees fit the definition(s).



when can we have slim whitman nominated/inducted?
he practically invented western yodel rock and inspired george harrison, paul mccartney, rob zombie and maybe weird al yankovic 

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Posted: Feb 6, 2023 - 10:40am

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Labels are gatekeepers; some of the weirdest battles in music happen when we try to say Jethro Tull is Heavy Metal or Police are punk. Or that guy is not rock.

There's a venn diagram of about 478 circles, where many of them overlap is possibly very definitely likely to be acknowledged as rock music but some of them only overlap by a hair and they're rock classics.

Yeah, essentially it means "popular music".  I remember over the years they would have some broad explanations of how their nominees fit the definition(s).

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Posted: Feb 6, 2023 - 9:55am

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Funny, I had to look up Missy Elliot. Oh rapper, that's why I've never heard of her. Showing my age I guess. 


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Posted: Feb 6, 2023 - 9:41am

 Proclivities wrote:

The hall of fame clearly has a very broad definition of "rock and roll" - that debate ship sailed long ago.  Anyhow, there are a number of "country" artists who have been inducted: Johnny Cash, Jimmie Rodgers, Hank Williams, Floyd Cramer, Chet Atkins, etc..  There is little or no logic to their decisions and it seems to be driven more by which inductees would sell the most tickets to the dinner ceremony than any other "logical" reasons.  They have no real mandate, it's just the personal tastes of several non-musicians.

...The basic premise of the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame already feels a little outdated post-MTV, and the lines between genres only get blurrier from here on out. It’s perhaps a little reductive, too, to give the exact same honour to such disparate acts – are NWA really reaching for the same thing as Deep Purple?
At best this comes across as an earnest attempt to court a younger generation, at worst it’s redefining what “rock ’n’ roll” is to suit its own needs, even when those words have really already gained new meaning.



Labels are gatekeepers; some of the weirdest battles in music happen when we try to say Jethro Tull is Heavy Metal or Police are punk. Or that guy is not rock.

There's a venn diagram of about 478 circles, where many of them overlap is possibly very definitely likely to be acknowledged as rock music but some of them only overlap by a hair and they're rock classics.
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Posted: Feb 6, 2023 - 7:37am

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2 words - Dolly Parton

Even she questioned getting it, but in she went. 

He's a country artist... no argument.  My original list below is who I'd bet gets in, not who I think should get in.  


Funny, I had to look up Missy Elliot. Oh rapper, that's why I've never heard of her. Showing my age I guess. 
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Posted: Feb 4, 2023 - 10:06am

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What are some great Willie Nelson rock songs? Does he have a greater body of rock compositions than Zevon?


The hall of fame clearly has a very broad definition of "rock and roll" - that debate ship sailed long ago.  Anyhow, there are a number of "country" artists who have been inducted: Johnny Cash, Jimmie Rodgers, Hank Williams, Floyd Cramer, Chet Atkins, etc..  There is little or no logic to their decisions and it seems to be driven more by which inductees would sell the most tickets to the dinner ceremony than any other "logical" reasons.  They have no real mandate, it's just the personal tastes of several non-musicians.

...The basic premise of the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame already feels a little outdated post-MTV, and the lines between genres only get blurrier from here on out. It’s perhaps a little reductive, too, to give the exact same honour to such disparate acts – are NWA really reaching for the same thing as Deep Purple?
At best this comes across as an earnest attempt to court a younger generation, at worst it’s redefining what “rock ’n’ roll” is to suit its own needs, even when those words have really already gained new meaning.

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Posted: Feb 4, 2023 - 9:56am

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Zevon as a performer and composer. Maybe not enough mass commercial appeal. He was influential, though, and unique. 

Willie Nelson obviously legendary, but I was wondering the same as you did about genre. 


2 words - Dolly Parton

Even she questioned getting it, but in she went. 

He's a country artist... no argument.  My original list below is who I'd bet gets in, not who I think should get in.  
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Posted: Feb 4, 2023 - 9:55am

If you scroll through and look at some who've been made members it is kind of hard to believe a few are on the list.
https://www.rockhall.com/inductees/a-z
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Posted: Feb 4, 2023 - 9:32am

 geoff_morphini wrote:

What are some great Willie Nelson rock songs? Does he have a greater body of rock compositions than Zevon?



Zevon as a performer and composer. Maybe not enough mass commercial appeal. He was influential, though, and unique. 

Willie Nelson obviously legendary, but I was wondering the same as you did about genre. 



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Posted: Feb 4, 2023 - 9:25am

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 rgio wrote:

I love some of Zevon's work...Excitable Boy I still have on vinyl...but he doesn't strike me as an "all-timer".  So I got to wondering who the nominees were.* is a first time nominee...
  1. Willie Nelson*
  2. Kate Bush
  3. Missy Elliott*
  4. George Michael*
  5. Sheryl Crow*
  6. A Tribe Called Quest
  7. Iron Maiden
  8. Joy Division/New Order*
  9. Cyndi Lauper*
  10. Rage Against the Machine
  11. Soundgarden
  12. The Spinners
  13. The White Stripes*
  14. Warren Zevon*
From that list, I'm going to say 1, 3, 4, 5, and 11 get in.

What are some great Willie Nelson rock songs? Does he have a greater body of rock compositions than Zevon?
 
Those guys aren't in already...Their oeuvre is stronger than many who are already enshrined...It is blasphemy that they are not members! As we say where I am from...Bullshit!
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Posted: Feb 4, 2023 - 8:53am

 rgio wrote:

I love some of Zevon's work...Excitable Boy I still have on vinyl...but he doesn't strike me as an "all-timer".  So I got to wondering who the nominees were.

* is a first time nominee...
  1. Willie Nelson*
  2. Kate Bush
  3. Missy Elliott*
  4. George Michael*
  5. Sheryl Crow*
  6. A Tribe Called Quest
  7. Iron Maiden
  8. Joy Division/New Order*
  9. Cyndi Lauper*
  10. Rage Against the Machine
  11. Soundgarden
  12. The Spinners
  13. The White Stripes*
  14. Warren Zevon*
From that list, I'm going to say 1, 3, 4, 5, and 11 get in.

What are some great Willie Nelson rock songs? Does he have a greater body of rock compositions than Zevon?

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Posted: Feb 3, 2023 - 11:37am

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I'm very excited about the possibility of Warren Zevon getting elected to the RRHOF. Who knows what his thoughts on this "honor" would be, but as a fan it's great to see him recognized for his talents. 


I love some of Zevon's work...Excitable Boy I still have on vinyl...but he doesn't strike me as an "all-timer".  So I got to wondering who the nominees were.

* is a first time nominee...
  1. Willie Nelson*
  2. Kate Bush
  3. Missy Elliott*
  4. George Michael*
  5. Sheryl Crow*
  6. A Tribe Called Quest
  7. Iron Maiden
  8. Joy Division/New Order*
  9. Cyndi Lauper*
  10. Rage Against the Machine
  11. Soundgarden
  12. The Spinners
  13. The White Stripes*
  14. Warren Zevon*
From that list, I'm going to say 1, 3, 4, 5, and 11 get in.
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Posted: Feb 3, 2023 - 9:57am

 ColdMiser wrote:

I'm very excited about the possibility of Warren Zevon getting elected to the RRHOF. Who knows what his thoughts on this "honor" would be, but as a fan it's great to see him recognized for his talents. 



Love his lyrics and music! Definitely a Classic and deserves recognition.
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Posted: Feb 2, 2023 - 7:22am

I'm very excited about the possibility of Warren Zevon getting elected to the RRHOF. Who knows what his thoughts on this "honor" would be, but as a fan it's great to see him recognized for his talents. 
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