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Jun 10, 2026 - 4:33pm
Proclivities wrote:
Yeah, part of some new, disjointed ramble: "No, I love it," the president said. "The numbers were great. You know what I really love? I love the inflation. You know why? Because as soon as this war is over. You know, I can say it now, something you didn't know. Did you know we've been taking out millions of barrels of oil? Nobody knows it. You know who doesn't know about it? Iran, until right now. We took out the other night, 22 ships. Late at night, with no lights. Because they don't have any radar because we blasted the crap out of it. We took out. That's why oil's $85 a barrel."
He didn't elaborate on how "taking out millions of barrels of oil" keeps the prices low - I'm assuming he meant escorting vessels, or "stealing" the oil, or did he mean blowing up tanker ships? Regardless, why would that make inflation something to love?
From NYT
It was a dramatic moment. President Trump seemed to be disclosing, on live television, a clandestine mission that involved spiriting away millions of barrels of oil, right under Iranâs nose. In Mr. Trumpâs telling, the mission was so secretive that the Iranians were learning about it only at that very moment.
âI can say it now. Something you didnât know,â Mr. Trump told reporters from his seat behind the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office on Wednesday morning. âDo you know weâve been taking out millions of barrels of oil? Nobody knows it. You know who doesnât know about it? Iran â until right now.â
âWe took out, the other night, 22 ships, late at night, with no lights, because they donât have any radar, because we blasted the crap out of it,â he continued.
As often happens with Mr. Trump, the truth was less dramatic. According to a senior U.S. military official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, the president was referring to an American effort to steer the passage of dozens of commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz.
While the operation was surreptitious enough â the U.S.-guided vessels have been turning off their transponders to avoid detection when crossing the narrow waterway â it could hardly have been news to Iran. Late last month, The New York Times published an article about the effort, reporting that U.S. Central Command had shepherded around 70 commercial ships through the strait.
The number of vessels steered through the strait is now more than 200 in a little over a month, the military official said. Before the war, traffic through the waterway was typically about 3,000 ships per month.
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Jun 10, 2026 - 4:30pm
Red_Dragon wrote:
And he's been saying "the war will be over" in a day or two for what, a month now?
Anyone that's not part of the cult knows that it's all about promises, undelivered promises, with him. It's always "two weeks" or some such lie. Because he's 1) full of crap and 2) simplistic about his lies. The bumpkins eat it up like it's already happened.
Yeah, part of some new, disjointed ramble: "No, I love it," the president said. "The numbers were great. You know what I really love? I love the inflation. You know why? Because as soon as this war is over. You know, I can say it now, something you didn't know. Did you know we've been taking out millions of barrels of oil? Nobody knows it. You know who doesn't know about it? Iran, until right now. We took out the other night, 22 ships. Late at night, with no lights. Because they don't have any radar because we blasted the crap out of it. We took out. That's why oil's $85 a barrel."
He didn't elaborate on how "taking out millions of barrels of oil" keeps the prices low - I'm assuming he meant escorting vessels, or "stealing" the oil, or did he mean blowing up tanker ships? Regardless, why would that make inflation something to love?
And he's been saying "the war will be over" in a day or two for what, a month now?
Yeah, part of some new, disjointed ramble: "No, I love it," the president said. "The numbers were great. You know what I really love? I love the inflation. You know why? Because as soon as this war is over. You know, I can say it now, something you didn't know. Did you know we've been taking out millions of barrels of oil? Nobody knows it. You know who doesn't know about it? Iran, until right now. We took out the other night, 22 ships. Late at night, with no lights. Because they don't have any radar because we blasted the crap out of it. We took out. That's why oil's $85 a barrel."
He didn't elaborate on how "taking out millions of barrels of oil" keeps the prices low - I'm assuming he meant escorting vessels, or "stealing" the oil, or did he mean blowing up tanker ships? Regardless, why would that make inflation something to love?
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Jun 10, 2026 - 11:16am
rgio wrote:
Genius isn't just intellectual brilliance, it also manifests in exceptional ability.
I have disliked Trump since the 80s, and have seen his impact on the region as I worked in NY and have lived in and around his NJ activities. I wish him nothing but the worst, and if there is a hell, he has the Fast-pass... but...
His abilities to influence people while saying things that lack factual support is genius. Evil...but genius.
Nobody else, saying exactly what he says, would get away with it. NOBODY. That's genius level stuff.
But I think of him as a mobster. Getting what he wants by force and intimidation more than by influence. Then, people who lack agency and wish they had it, or have always wished that they'd thrown that winning pass in the high school game... well, they latch on to someone who can hurt the ones who kept them down (although it was usually of their own doing).
And there's a large contingent of people who are just plain stupid. There's no convincing involved, just grabbing at the glistening object without realizing the danger or without being able to see more than one step in the future, the one promised them where they get a chance at a good life.
And then there are the racists. The ones who see him, probably, as the simpleton ready to stand up for them so they can finally save the country from the coloreds (black, brown, yellow, red, whatever). To bully their way forward they threaten and take and glower and destroy. Because they've always wanted to, and he's just the excuse and distraction.
And then there are the grifters. Here's king grifter, distracting everyone from their schemes and it turns out he's willing to work right along side them, encourage and enable them. They don't care about him at all, but he's a stepping stone to their larceny.
Genius isn't just intellectual brilliance, it also manifests in exceptional ability.
I have disliked Trump since the 80s, and have seen his impact on the region as I worked in NY and have lived in and around his NJ activities. I wish him nothing but the worst, and if there is a hell, he has the Fast-pass... but...
His abilities to influence people while saying things that lack factual support is genius. Evil...but genius.
Nobody else, saying exactly what he says, would get away with it. NOBODY. That's genius level stuff.
Powered by lies fostering fear and hatred fired from both ends of a cannon. Seething as it were.
He's the manifestation of our own failings and he gleefully rubs our noses in it without being the slightest bit aware that that is what he is doing. It's not genius. It's an indication of social disease in the medical sense of the word. He's not the only sick one here. We, collectively, are.
Genius isn't just intellectual brilliance, it also manifests in exceptional ability.
I have disliked Trump since the 80s, and have seen his impact on the region as I worked in NY and have lived in and around his NJ activities. I wish him nothing but the worst, and if there is a hell, he has the Fast-pass... but...
His abilities to influence people while saying things that lack factual support is genius. Evil...but genius.
Nobody else, saying exactly what he says, would get away with it. NOBODY. That's genius level stuff.
Oh I didn't mean he was genius. In spiritual warfare, it is the purveyor of malevolence which burns the candle at both ends.
And your last point is well expressed, mi amigo.
I think he is compelled to thrust his own failings in our face and laugh at society for creating a monster like him. In that way he is a perfect expression of modern society (or more precisely, what modern society got wrong). He's the manifestation of our own failings and he gleefully rubs our noses in it without being the slightest bit aware that that is what he is doing. It's not genius. It's an indication of social disease in the medical sense of the word. He's not the only sick one here. We, collectively, are.
Oh I didn't mean he was genius. In spiritual warfare, it is the purveyor of malevolence which burns the candle at both ends.
And your last point is well expressed, mi amigo.
Your friend misunderstands the power of subservience. Even more than money, Trump craves legitimacy. This is the essence of megalomania. If he were to quit he would realize that he was wearing no clothing, and couldn't find to buy anything that would fit as well. He is well suited to be who he is and, to your friends point, where he is. He would never leave on his own. That would be a self identified blasphemy. However, there is more to this whole clash of realities yet to unfold. Prophetic? Likely. Detrimental? Most assuredly. Manipulation is worth more than the tools and trinkets of gold in the shrines of malevolence. It serves to acquire fearful subservience. Using faulting mankind's ignorance and resolve against itself. It's not ideological. It's not religious. It's genius.
Why? This is my main question. How? To where? A fixed point or a grinding irrelevance? Follow the design.
I think he is compelled to thrust his own failings in our face and laugh at society for creating a monster like him. In that way he is a perfect expression of modern society (or more precisely, what modern society got wrong). He's the manifestation of our own failings and he gleefully rubs our noses in it without being the slightest bit aware that that is what he is doing. It's not genius. It's an indication of social disease in the medical sense of the word. He's not the only sick one here. We, collectively, are.
A friend of mine swears that Trump is going to resign...maybe before the mid-terms.
I don't see it, but his perspective is... he's grifted enough to quit and enjoy it while he's still alive... quitting would likely extend his life, even if for days/months, not years... he doesn't care about fixing any of the problems he's created or inherited... nothing he does now is going to make him popular (generally speaking)... so take the money, run, and let JD take over and see if he can find a way to keep the White House and protect Trump from the endless grift lawsuits that will come out of the woodwork the moment he's no longer POTUS.
His final middle finger to the MAGA faithful.
Your friend misunderstands the power of subservience. Even more than money, Trump craves legitimacy. This is the essence of megalomania. If he were to quit he would realize that he was wearing no clothing, and couldn't find to buy anything that would fit as well. He is well suited to be who he is and, to your friends point, where he is. He would never leave on his own. That would be a self identified blasphemy. However, there is more to this whole clash of realities yet to unfold. Prophetic? Likely. Detrimental? Most assuredly. Manipulation is worth more than the tools and trinkets of gold in the shrines of malevolence. It serves to acquire fearful subservience. Using faulting mankind's ignorance and resolve against itself. It's not ideological. It's not religious. It's genius.
Why? This is my main question. How? To where? A fixed point or a grinding irrelevance? Follow the design.
Sure, but the sooner he walks, the sooner JD can pardon him for whatever...and he can be protected against the criminal activities that are obvious and known. Take your $4B and walk into the sunset, telling yourself you're the greatest business man, greatest POTUS, and smartest person ever to walk the earth.
