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rgio

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Posted: Feb 22, 2024 - 7:55am

 VV wrote:

Nap taken.
 
Now, let's see what's on my progressive, elitist, RINO agenda today...
  
Hmmmmm, two entries:

Find a rhyme for "orange".
  
Antagonize Kurt.
 
Light day.



VV dear....  I missed you at the club this morning. 

Can I tell you... the new towels in the steam room are crap.  Something about Eygpt (blah blah blah)... I don't know.  I think I'm getting a rash.

Good luck with your day.  I doubt Kurt will come out to play... maybe he's off his meds again?

If we don't talk, I'll see you at the fundraiser tomorrow night (God I hate those things... trash bar and inedible finger food... punishment for being so damn rich).
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Posted: Feb 22, 2024 - 7:44am

 VV wrote:

Nap taken.
 
Now, let's see what's on my progressive, elitist, RINO agenda today...
  
Hmmmmm, two entries:

Find a rhyme for "orange".
  
Antagonize Kurt.
 
Light day.






VV

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Posted: Feb 22, 2024 - 7:35am

 VV wrote:

Thanks, I’ll have my manservant “Jules” retrieve it for me. In the meantime, can someone go out and silence all the birds in my courtyard? I’m trying to take a power-nap.




Nap taken.
 
Now, let's see what's on my progressive, elitist, RINO agenda today...
  
Hmmmmm, two entries:

Find a rhyme for "orange".
  
Antagonize Kurt.
 
Light day.


VV

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Posted: Feb 22, 2024 - 4:46am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Next to your mother-of-pearl snuff box and matching monocle. Again. 


Thanks, I’ll have my manservant “Jules” retrieve it for me. In the meantime, can someone go out and silence all the birds in my courtyard? I’m trying to take a power-nap.



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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 11:38pm

 islander wrote:

I'm honestly a bit sad that I wasn't namechecked under 'rich authoritarian elites'. 




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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 7:48pm

 VV wrote:

Watch how you address me, or I’ll have my people kick you off the internet. Now where did I leave my cognac snifter?


Next to your mother-of-pearl snuff box and matching monocle. Again. 

VV

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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 6:58pm

 islander wrote:

I'm honestly a bit sad that I wasn't namechecked under 'rich authoritarian elites'. 

remember where you came from though, you will always be riff-raff to us.


Watch how you address me, or I’ll have my people kick you off the internet. Now where did I leave my cognac snifter?

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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 6:09pm

 islander wrote:
 VV wrote:

I'm a Rockefeller now?   ...cool. 

I'm honestly a bit sad that I wasn't namechecked under 'rich authoritarian elites'.  remember where you came from though, you will always be riff-raff to us.
 
+1
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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 6:02pm

 VV wrote:

I'm a Rockefeller now?  


...cool. 



I'm honestly a bit sad that I wasn't namechecked under 'rich authoritarian elites'. 

remember where you came from though, you will always be riff-raff to us.

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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 5:26pm

 Bill_J wrote:
 VV wrote:

I'm a Rockefeller now?   ...cool. 
Oysters all around!
 
The Andy Griffith Show — Season 3, Episode 11
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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 5:03pm

 VV wrote:

I'm a Rockefeller now?  


...cool. 




Oysters all around!
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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 4:17pm

 kurtster wrote:
The blue blood Nelson Rockefeller types (rgio and VV being prime examples) have gone to the dems, which now is the party of the rich authoritarian elites being run by the Progressive branch of the party.

I'm a Rockefeller now?  

...cool. 

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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 6:30am

 rgio wrote:
In 2016, a friend of mine suggested that Trump voters are selfish, stupid, and/or racist.  At this point, MAGA is an amalgamation of all three.

You forgot ignorant
  
There's run-of-the-mill ignorance and willful ignorance.
 
The second one is much more dangerous.

rgio

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Posted: Feb 21, 2024 - 5:00am

 haresfur wrote:
I actually take you at your word that Trump gave a voice to his supporters (leaving aside whether they actually were ignored previously. You think so, fair enough). I now wonder what your voice is actually saying? From what I can see it is close the borders at all costs, including separating children from their families. Banning abortion rights to the point of bans even if carrying a foetus to term will kill the mother. Supporting authoritarian regimes around the world as long as it increases trump's power. Encouraging violent extremist groups (the ones I'm actually fine with calling racist xenophobes because that's what they say they are) if it supports his (your) agenda. Did I miss anything?


I think that's the question, but the positions aren't nearly as stark as you suggest.

They want the border closed, but primarily because they despise the idea that the US government supports migrants when they don't support the people already here.  It's an anger toward government.  Ignore the fact that most don't want the government to help them... they don't want their dollars supporting people who aren't here.  That expands to NATO, Ukraine, and the rest of the world now, and ignores the financial realities that our supporting others drives a lot of our economy.  90% of Ukraine's aid stays in the US.  It's jobs and economic opportunity HERE... with the added benefit of supporting an ally without anyone in our military firing a weapon.  

Abortion is the dog that caught the car.  It was easy to support a fetus' right to survive because it signaled you're a good person... and didn't mean much.  Nobody thought Roe would be overturned in any state in the US, so it was proof you were a caring human being... until it wasn't.  This is part of the "gospel", but it was around long before MAGA.  It's a timing coincidence that collided with McConnell, RBG, and Trump.  It's election kryptonite.  

Supporting Putin seems personal for Trump.  It's Saudi Arabia too.  Any country where he's borrowed money is full of brilliant, great people. The MAGA support who Trump supports, and now MAGA find themselves in the uncomfortable position of supporting oligarchs.  Kurt, for example, completely ignores questions on Putin and Navalny right now.  I suggest he knows how insane the position is... but isn't going to break ranks and admit anything given the room is full of never-Trumpers. 

Extremists are overwhelmingly white, and white people feel like they're under attack.  BLM, affirmative action, DEI... MAGA hates any conversation that supports non-whites so much that they stopped teaching history.  Trump supports white grievance.

Then Fox News drives ratings by exploiting all of these issues.  If you feel left behind, a government lack of support, God's pull through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, or are tired of being "the bad guy" for being white... Fox can tell you who to blame.   It's a group of elite, well-educated, wealthy liberals who prefer everyone else over you.  To resist, you need to rally behind a criminal who promises to be "your retribution".

In 2016, a friend of mine suggested that Trump voters are selfish, stupid, and/or racist.  At this point, MAGA is an amalgamation of all three.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 6:47pm

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The republican party is now the party of the working class, which Obama effectively threw out of the democrat party during his term. You know, all those white folks that cling to their guns and bibles. Not the first time a reversal has happened , but that is what has happened with Trump's takeover of the party. Old Kennedy working class type democrats have found a new home in the repub party. The blue blood Nelson Rockefeller types (rgio and VV being prime examples) have gone to the dems, which now is the party of the rich authoritarian elites being run by the Progressive branch of the party.

Trump gave a voice to those who have been totally ignored by the establishment of both parties (which are essentially opposite sides of the same coin). The establishment being the globalist, open border, offshore jobs agenda standard bearers. I see below that you are still a wide open border advocate as you have just redenounced Trump's border policies again. You all put foreigners in front of Americans and in doing so call those who object, racist xenophobes, which is demeaning, insulting and untrue. That is where the divide begins and apparently ends.

You and most others have a totally distorted idea of exactly who Trump supporters are and why they are. You listen to your news feeds and not those who are the ones you claim to understand and call delusional in so many words. You do not want to understand the actual concerns since you disagree with them so completely. In your case, you cannot get past the objection to having open borders like you insist on.

I have tried to be enlightening over the years but it is fruitless since most just want to beat up the messenger, and any messenger (not just me) that tries to offer up explanations of certain POV's that you all find incomprehensible based on your own ideologies and POV's. We have all been summarily dismissed as members of a cult as opposed to those with legitimate grievances. Insult us into seeing things your way is your method. Howze that working for ya ?



I actually take you at your word that Trump gave a voice to his supporters (leaving aside whether they actually were ignored previously. You think so, fair enough). I now wonder what your voice is actually saying? From what I can see it is close the borders at all costs, including separating children from their families. Banning abortion rights to the point of bans even if carrying a foetus to term will kill the mother. Supporting authoritarian regimes around the world as long as it increases trump's power. Encouraging violent extremist groups (the ones I'm actually fine with calling racist xenophobes because that's what they say they are) if it supports his (your) agenda. Did I miss anything?

kcar

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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 6:27pm

Well said, Lazy8. 

Kurt, if I told you that the southern US border was well under our control and you posted evidence countering or rebutting my relaxed attitude, wouldn't you expect me to at least dig deeper into the issue? Maybe even reconsider what I'd written? That actually happened. It took me a while but I woke up to you what you were saying. 

We're all really busy here. We grab the news and try to make sense of what it means based on what we've learned or realized beforehand. It's easy to build up a view of the world without looking too hard at it and then accept claims that support that world view—eg, everything's perfectly fine at the border. 

Unfortunately, that can lead to truthiness. We believe in something even though the facts contradict it. But we're all adults and we're supposed to be active participants in a form of democracy working in a fact-based world.  

So back up your take on the world. You've had some success doing it before. No, you're not going to convert me to Trumpism and I'm not going to sway you to vote for a Democrat. But we can better understand the other guy's point of view and we won't feel disrespected so much or like we're shouting at a wall. 
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 3:31pm

 kurtster wrote:
I have tried to be enlightening over the years but it is fruitless since most just want to beat up the messenger, and any messenger (not just me) that tries to offer up explanations of certain POV's that you all find incomprehensible based on your own ideologies and POV's. We have all been summarily dismissed as members of a cult as opposed to those with legitimate grievances. Insult us into seeing things your way is your method. Howze that working for ya ?

Try this: look past your sense of grievance and engage on actual issues.

Our descendants won't care that we feel justified taking some measure because someone was mean to us, they'll judge us based on what actually happened.

Was the measure justified, not on the basis of who opposed it but on its effectiveness at addressing the issue and the rule of law?

Were its unintended consequences bad enough to render it the wrong choice?

Was the issue it was meant to address even real?

If you can't engage on that basis then you are in a cult, a cult full of spoiled children throwing a massive tantrum at the rest of the country looking to enact policies based on who it pisses off.

And you forget where I live. I am awash in MAGA friends and neighbors; one just down the street is still flying a Trump 2020 flag. I'm willing to engage with them respectfully if they want to talk about issues, and we work together on common causes all the time. I'll be tabling at a gun show next month and we'll have lots to talk about. Most of them will engage on other issues (immigration comes readily to mind) without just chanting slogans at me.

So argue the issues, as passionately as you like. Be prepared to talk to people who disagree. Yes, some of them will be assholes (and that's on them) but it doesn't make them wrong any more than Trump being all...Trump makes him wrong.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 3:17pm

 kcar wrote:
  But please, tell us with evidence Obviously , you see things differently. But you only offere sweeping generalizations—"Biden's left the southern border wide open"—that don't stand up and often aren't supported by any evidence. So yes, you get dismissed and disrespected.  But rather mention yet again how you're disrespected, why don't you just voice your take on the economy and social issues clearly, with evidence? 

You're not going to change people's minds about Trump but you might make them have a better ability to understand GOP policy. These days, personally, I don't what the party is doing independent of Trump...
 
You ask for evidence for my opinion ?  You got all the evidence you're gonna get.  All's you're going to do is tell me I'm wrong anyway.

It's my opinion based upon my own thoughts accumulated during the last 71 trips around the sun.  I am capable of my own independent thinking just to let you know.  If you have seen any of what I expressed, the way I have expressed it some place where I can parrot it from, let me know.

That you think that the border is under control is not even close to anything I see.

And once more you ask for evidence.  Once again there is no evidence I can provide you that you will accept. You will disagree with everything and will find something to support your position, so knock yourself out.

I'm not trying to change anyone here, minds. 'Tis impossible.  Not even trying.  It's all a just saying thing and will be considered in the same way that anything possibly related in the loosest possible way to anything MAGA, as nothing more than blind obedience originating from a cult mentality.

See if you can change my mind on that ...

Disrespected ?  Here ?  Did I say that exactly or are you just trying to put words in my mouth ?  Then again, ask me if I care.

Say hi to Ronald !

Just another day in paradise ...
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Posted: Feb 20, 2024 - 2:19pm

HEY BEAKER! GFY



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