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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 - 12:13pm

 westslope wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:


not picking nits here, but i'm pretty sure, in fact i'd bet your boots, that your understanding of libertarian is roughly 180 degrees from what it actually means

a simple way to use it properly

small l libertarian is synonymous or interchangeable with liberal


.....
 
That said, I find a lot of folks like to virtue-signal as libertarians when in reality they are self-serving, myopic conservatives who do not really care about others or their rights.   

If you care about your own 'property rights' but have little or no regard for the 'property rights' of others, you are likely not a libertarian.  If you feel that racial, ethnic or other sectarian criteria are sufficient to deny others' property rights, then you are not a libertarian.

If you support ethnic-cleansing terrorism and the procurement of resources from 'others' through violence, you are not a libertarian.   If 'us versus them' is your go-to approach to domestic politics and international relations, you are not a libertarian.


 

I couldn't agree more with all of this.  Soooooo what exactly is your point?

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 - 12:10pm



 sirdroseph wrote:


 steeler wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:

Rich, yes, developed, yes.  High levels of education?  That one is debatable. Public primary and High school are for the most part deplorable and so called higher education is nothing but a money making scheme with Trotsky wannabe professors who live in tenure induced bubbles spouting useless utopian bullshit to the privileged or unfortunate who have taken out enormous high interest loans they will never pay back because the degrees they have chosen are useless in producing a high enough wage to even live much less pay it back.  The only people more obnoxious than the uneducated are the "educated".  I try to spend my time with people that "know" as little as possible and that has nothing to do with education at all.

 

 
You are in the right place!

 



 

Maybe put the "uneducated" in quotes also lest the term usage and your pastime become mutually conclusive...
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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 - 11:50am



 miamizsun wrote:


not picking nits here, but i'm pretty sure, in fact i'd bet your boots, that your understanding of libertarian is roughly 180 degrees from what it actually means

a simple way to use it properly

small l libertarian is synonymous or interchangeable with liberal


.....
 
Not in my experience.   "Liberals", "liberal democrats", and "liberal economists" all propose things that are looked upon negatively by Libertarians and libertarians.  

That said, I find a lot of folks like to virtue-signal as libertarians when in reality they are self-serving, myopic conservatives who do not really care about others or their rights.   

If you care about your own 'property rights' but have little or no regard for the 'property rights' of others, you are likely not a libertarian.  If you feel that racial, ethnic or other sectarian criteria are sufficient to deny others' property rights, then you are not a libertarian.

If you support ethnic-cleansing terrorism and the procurement of resources from 'others' through violence, you are not a libertarian.   If 'us versus them' is your go-to approach to domestic politics and international relations, you are not a libertarian.


It is strange to discuss libertarianism in a thread on Donald J. Trump.   He clearly favours  forms and styles of state intervention that many, if not most liberals, liberal democats and liberal economists would strongly oppose.  Not to mention bona fide libertarians, small l or capital L.

Naturally some of the racist warmongers who describe themselves as libertarians (sic) would support Trump.  

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 - 11:24am

Trump’s greatest dereliction of duty — his disgraceful denial of climate change
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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 - 4:08am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
The American Evangelical version of Christianity is militantly white, anti-gay, anti-intellectual, anti-science, libertarian and gun-obsessed. I know, I was once one of them.
 

not picking nits here, but i'm pretty sure, in fact i'd bet your boots, that your understanding of libertarian is roughly 180 degrees from what it actually means

a simple way to use it properly

small l libertarian is synonymous or interchangeable with liberal

large L is usually used for the actual political party

you could be a democrat or republican and have liberal or libertarian notions, like human rights, etc.

i'd suggest looking at the LP's platform
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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 - 1:51am



 steeler wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:

Rich, yes, developed, yes.  High levels of education?  That one is debatable. Public primary and High school are for the most part deplorable and so called higher education is nothing but a money making scheme with Trotsky wannabe professors who live in tenure induced bubbles spouting useless utopian bullshit to the privileged or unfortunate who have taken out enormous high interest loans they will never pay back because the degrees they have chosen are useless in producing a high enough wage to even live much less pay it back.  The only people more obnoxious than the uneducated are the "educated".  I try to spend my time with people that "know" as little as possible and that has nothing to do with education at all.

 

 
You are in the right place!

 


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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 7:33pm



 oldviolin wrote:

Red_Dragon wrote:

Philistine
 



 

File under "Name My Band"?




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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 7:20pm


Red_Dragon wrote:

Philistine
 



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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 7:11pm

 oldviolin wrote:


 
Philistine
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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 7:05pm



 Coaxial wrote:

I'm here for you, bro.
 



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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 7:02pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Thanks. Are you a Recovering Baptist too?
 
Indeed, with Pentecostal relatives. It was at there church I learned about people speaking in tongues the hard way when I was around 5 or 6...I was like WTF is going on even back then.
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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 6:44pm

 Coaxial wrote:

I'm here for you, bro.
 
Thanks. Are you a Recovering Baptist too?
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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 6:19pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

dammit.
 
I'm here for you, bro.
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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 6:16pm

 Coaxial wrote:

You forgot misogynistic, as well.
 
dammit.
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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 6:14pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

The American Evangelical version of Christianity is militantly white, anti-gay, anti-intellectual, anti-science, libertarian and gun-obsessed. I know, I was once one of them.
 
You forgot misogynistic, as well.
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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 6:12pm

 kcar wrote:

 
Weren't American evangelicals all crazy for the US to move its embassy to Jerusalem because it would (in their eyes) fulfill some biblical prophecy and move us all closer to the Apocalypse, during which they (being pure) would be raptured into Heaven? When I read about that notion, it struck me as incredibly selfish and un-Christian.

 
The American Evangelical version of Christianity is militantly white, anti-gay, anti-intellectual, anti-science, libertarian and gun-obsessed. I know, I was once one of them.
westslope

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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 6:05pm



 kcar wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:

Ayup.
 
Weren't American evangelicals all crazy for the US to move its embassy to Jerusalem because it would (in their eyes) fulfill some biblical prophecy and move us all closer to the Apocalypse, during which they (being pure) would be raptured into Heaven? When I read about that notion, it struck me as incredibly selfish and un-Christian.

 
Very un-Christian.  Though, it does explain why the USA bends over backwards to protect the Israeli regional monopoly on nuclear weapons.   

Though, to be frank, I always characterized the American policy on nuclear weapons proliferation as similar to 12-year old boys deciding what is right in a school playground based on who their friends are.

Not clear to me that the average American voter has the numeracy to understand nuclear weapons strategy.   

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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 5:24pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:

Ayup.
 
Weren't American evangelicals all crazy for the US to move its embassy to Jerusalem because it would (in their eyes) fulfill some biblical prophecy and move us all closer to the Apocalypse, during which they (being pure) would be raptured into Heaven? When I read about that notion, it struck me as incredibly selfish and un-Christian.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 5:14pm



 R_P wrote:
Donald Trump, anointed of God — seriously?
Most Americans — 65 per cent, according to PRRI — may now find Trump's behaviour undignified and damaging to the presidency, but not white evangelicals. They are, in fact, the only religious group in the survey to disagree.

There are only two reasonable explanations for this. Trump is the white evangelicals' version of V.I. Lenin's useful idiot, a character who is helping achieve their apocalyptic fever dreams, but who will perish along with the rest of us as the faithful perch in the clouds. Or the white evangelical version of Christianity is a darker, uglier thing than the smiles and the welcoming hugs and the blessings would have you believe.

 
What took so many Americans so long?       Trouble finding the trail of bread crumbs?  

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Posted: Nov 5, 2019 - 5:00pm

 R_P wrote:
Donald Trump, anointed of God — seriously?
Most Americans — 65 per cent, according to PRRI — may now find Trump's behaviour undignified and damaging to the presidency, but not white evangelicals. They are, in fact, the only religious group in the survey to disagree.

There are only two reasonable explanations for this. Trump is the white evangelicals' version of V.I. Lenin's useful idiot, a character who is helping achieve their apocalyptic fever dreams, but who will perish along with the rest of us as the faithful perch in the clouds. Or the white evangelical version of Christianity is a darker, uglier thing than the smiles and the welcoming hugs and the blessings would have you believe.
 
Ayup.
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