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ScottN

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 4:32pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i'm saying that i seriously doubt you'd sell your soul to the extent that presidents have (or have to)

you're on the hook with the military industrial complex, hoards of special interests and the expenses of the masses and worst of all, to banks/creditors 

would you give orders or allow the murder of innocent men, women and children?

or allow senseless war when you could stop it?

would you bury future generations under mountains of debt that they can never ever repay?

especially to finance the political greed, coercion and corruption?

it's the misdirection of humanity

i'd rather vote for you any day 

 
You have the current debate on a far higher philosophical plane than is deserved, imo.

Simply focus on greed, and the pathologically narcissistic personality who currently serves as POTUS.


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 4:25pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i'm saying that i seriously doubt you'd sell your soul to the extent that presidents have (or have to)

you're on the hook with the military industrial complex, hoards of special interests and the expenses of the masses and worst of all, to banks/creditors 

would you give orders or allow the murder of innocent men, women and children?

or allow senseless war when you could stop it?

would you bury future generations under mountains of debt that they can never ever repay?

especially to finance the political greed, coercion and corruption?

it's the misdirection of humanity

i'd rather vote for you any day 

 
there's the rub
miamizsun

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 4:15pm

 steeler wrote:

Well, admittedly, it is a low bar.  Are you saying they will always manage to limbo under it?   

 
i'm saying that i seriously doubt you'd sell your soul to the extent that presidents have (or have to)

you're on the hook with the military industrial complex, hoards of special interests and the expenses of the masses and worst of all, to banks/creditors 

would you give orders or allow the murder of innocent men, women and children?

or allow senseless war when you could stop it?

would you bury future generations under mountains of debt that they can never ever repay?

especially to finance the political greed, coercion and corruption?

it's the misdirection of humanity

i'd rather vote for you any day 
steeler

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 4:00pm

 miamizsun wrote:

good luck

there will never be a president better than you

i'm serious

 
Well, admittedly, it is a low bar.  Are you saying they will always manage to limbo under it?  {#Lol} 


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 3:56pm

 steeler wrote:

I have never understood those who vote for someone because he or she is "like me."  I don't want someone like me   I want someone better than me.  

 
good luck

there will never be a president better than you

i'm serious
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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 3:50pm

 VV wrote:

Beginners mistakes? No new wars and no market crash? Even if you dismiss all of the recent turmoil (I can't)... can you set the "acceptable/satisfactory" bar any lower? Given that criteria, I probably would make a better president than Trump... I would venture to say that you would as well. I have never thought that about any other prior president.
 
When I start to believe that I could do a better job... there is something seriously amiss in the White House.

 
I have never understood those who vote for someone because he or she is "like me."  I don't want someone like me  — I want someone better than me.  


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 3:45pm

 kcar wrote:

Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department has appointed Robert S. Mueller III, the former F.B.I. director, to serve as a special counsel to oversee its investigation into Russian meddling in the election, Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein announced on Wednesday.

The appointment of Mr. Mueller dramatically raises the stakes for President Trump in the multiple investigations into his campaign’s ties to the Russians. It follows a swiftly moving series of developments that have roiled Washington, including Mr. Trump’s abrupt dismissal of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and the disclosure that the president urged Mr. Comey to drop the bureau’s investigation into his former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn.

...

While a special counsel would remain ultimately answerable to (Deputy AG Rod. J) Rosenstein — and by extension, the president — he would have greater autonomy to run an investigation than a United States attorney.



 
And, so it begins.. and, hopefully,  leads to an end of our national (international) nightmare sometime soon.

It is not the man's policies (does he really have guiding principles, much less "policies"? ); it is, for me, the mendacity, the ostentatious vulgarity that he shamelessly displays daily, that deeply offends me.

But, her emails!


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 3:40pm


 House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump


 A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016 exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the U.S. Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

...

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks...This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

...



Evan McMullin, who in his role as policy director to the House Republican Conference participated in the June 15 conversation, said: “It’s true that Majority Leader McCarthy said that he thought candidate Trump was on the Kremlin’s payroll. Speaker Ryan was concerned about that leaking.”


...

Among GOP leaders in the House, McCarthy stood out as a Putin critic who in 2015 called for the imposition of “more severe” sanctions for its actions in eastern Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea.

In May 2016, McCarthy signed up to serve as a Trump delegate at the Republican National Convention, breaking ranks with Ryan who said he still wasn’t ready to endorse the candidate. McCarthy’s relationship with Trump became so close that the president would sometimes refer to him as “my Kevin.”



<Read the transcript of the conversation among GOP leaders obtained by The Post>


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 3:13pm


Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department has appointed Robert S. Mueller III, the former F.B.I. director, to serve as a special counsel to oversee its investigation into Russian meddling in the election, Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein announced on Wednesday.

The appointment of Mr. Mueller dramatically raises the stakes for President Trump in the multiple investigations into his campaign’s ties to the Russians. It follows a swiftly moving series of developments that have roiled Washington, including Mr. Trump’s abrupt dismissal of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and the disclosure that the president urged Mr. Comey to drop the bureau’s investigation into his former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn.

...

While a special counsel would remain ultimately answerable to (Deputy AG Rod. J) Rosenstein — and by extension, the president — he would have greater autonomy to run an investigation than a United States attorney.


VV

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 3:08pm

 kurtster wrote:
 
Been down this road before with Nixon.  I voted for McGovern.  A lot of people had to eat some nasty crow over their support for Nixon.  Could be the same for me this time around.  We'll see.  So far other than beginners mistakes, I'm not concerned yet.  He hasn't started any new wars and the stock market hasn't crashed as was predicted.  So far so good.

 
Beginners mistakes? No new wars and no market crash? Even if you dismiss all of the recent turmoil (I can't)... can you set the "acceptable/satisfactory" bar any lower? Given that criteria, I probably would make a better president than Trump... I would venture to say that you would as well. I have never thought that about any other prior president.
 
When I start to believe that I could do a better job... there is something seriously amiss in the White House.
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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 2:27pm


Trump at the Coast Guard Academy

Trump at the Coast Guard Acad.

".....but enough about me..... what do you think of me?
kurtster

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 2:12pm

 Proclivities wrote:

This is somewhat tangential to your post, but I've never been wholly convinced that Comey has or had any specific agenda; sometimes it seemed like he was bumbling around recklessly.  I do prefer to wait for the dust and smoke to clear and not just 'speculate' about Comey and why he was dismissed at that specific time, and more so: the investigation.  Still, the President has many more problems than just this latest kerfuffle.  We'll have to wait and see - it's still early and just about anything seems possible anymore.

 
I would like to feel the same way.  

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

 FBI is DOJ

  
I know this.  The Director reports to the deputy assistant AG.  Acting Director McCabe has some issues.  We shall see.

 VV wrote:

I guess your grasping for straws is understandable. Nobody likes to believe that a person they so stood so firmly behind could turn into such a cluster f*ck. His ineptitude was even grossly underestimated by his most fervent critics. Now that's impressive.

  
Been down this road before with Nixon.  I voted for McGovern.  A lot of people had to eat some nasty crow over their support for Nixon.  Could be the same for me this time around.  We'll see.  So far other than beginners mistakes, I'm not concerned yet.  He hasn't started any new wars and the stock market hasn't crashed as was predicted.  So far so good.


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 1:19pm


VV

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 12:47pm

 kurtster wrote:
To whom it may concern ...

Just this past hour, I was made aware of the facts that lie in two US Codes that would apply directly to former FBI Director Comey that:  

He is required by law to report any attempts of or actual obstruction of justice immediately to the DOJ and that failure to do so would result in the loss of his law license as well as jail time.

The event that everyone is foaming and frothing over, the alleged Comey memo stating just that, would now get Comey in as much or more trouble than Trump if true.  He failed to report obstruction of justice and therefore becomes complicit in same.

Now if in fact Comey wrote these kinds of memos on a regular basis, then we should also see what he wrote about regarding interactions with Obama.  

If indeed Comey did find there to be obstruction of justice regarding Trump, it is still officially unreported 3 months after the event took place.

Until I see the memo, I must say that all of those who think this is the smoking gun you've been drooling over to end your nightmare, the Trump presidency, you are being played, big time.  Or Trump is the one with the least amount of problems as this stuff moves forward.

There is indeed corruption going on somewhere, but your attentions are deliberately being diverted from where it is to be found.

Sleep well.  
 
I guess your grasping for straws is understandable. Nobody likes to believe that a person they so stood so firmly behind could turn into such a cluster f*ck. His ineptitude was even grossly underestimated by his most fervent critics. Now that's impressive.


Proclivities

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 12:28pm

 kurtster wrote:
To whom it may concern ...

Just this past hour, I was made aware of the facts that lie in two US Codes that would apply directly to former FBI Director Comey that:  

He is required by law to report any attempts of or actual obstruction of justice immediately to the DOJ and that failure to do so would result in the loss of his law license as well as jail time.

The event that everyone is foaming and frothing over, the alleged Comey memo stating just that, would now get Comey in as much or more trouble than Trump if true.  He failed to report obstruction of justice and therefore becomes complicit in same.

Now if in fact Comey wrote these kinds of memos on a regular basis, then we should also see what he wrote about regarding interactions with Obama.  

If indeed Comey did find there to be obstruction of justice regarding Trump, it is still officially unreported 3 months after the event took place.

Until I see the memo, I must say that all of those who think this is the smoking gun you've been drooling over to end your nightmare, the Trump presidency, you are being played, big time.  Or Trump is the one with the least amount of problems as this stuff moves forward.

There is indeed corruption going on somewhere, but your attentions are deliberately being diverted from where it is to be found.

Sleep well.  
 
This is somewhat tangential to your post, but I've never been wholly convinced that Comey has or had any specific agenda; sometimes it seemed like he was bumbling around recklessly.  I do prefer to wait for the dust and smoke to clear and not just 'speculate' about Comey and why he was dismissed at that specific time, and more so: the investigation.  Still, the President has many more problems than just this latest kerfuffle.  We'll have to wait and see - it's still early and just about anything seems possible anymore.
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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 12:16pm

 kurtster wrote:
He is required by law to report any attempts of or actual obstruction of justice immediately to the DOJ 
 
FBI is DOJ
kurtster

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 11:53am

To whom it may concern ...

Just this past hour, I was made aware of the facts that lie in two US Codes that would apply directly to former FBI Director Comey that:  

He is required by law to report any attempts of or actual obstruction of justice immediately to the DOJ and that failure to do so would result in the loss of his law license as well as jail time.

The event that everyone is foaming and frothing over, the alleged Comey memo stating just that, would now get Comey in as much or more trouble than Trump if true.  He failed to report obstruction of justice and therefore becomes complicit in same.

Now if in fact Comey wrote these kinds of memos on a regular basis, then we should also see what he wrote about regarding interactions with Obama.  

If indeed Comey did find there to be obstruction of justice regarding Trump, it is still officially unreported 3 months after the event took place.

Until I see the memo, I must say that all of those who think this is the smoking gun you've been drooling over to end your nightmare, the Trump presidency, you are being played, big time.  Or Trump is the one with the least amount of problems as this stuff moves forward.

There is indeed corruption going on somewhere, but your attentions are deliberately being diverted from where it is to be found.

Sleep well.  

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 7:28am

 kurtster wrote:

I'm not running away from Trump.  You see that where ?  

And since you bring up Obama in the same breath, how about all of the defense of Obama's initial grappling with the problems at hand by saying over and over again for at least two years that, it takes a long time to turn an ocean liner around, give him time ...   that defending the smartest man to ever be POTUS, all you defenders kept saying as well.  Why golly gee whillickers, even with a Nobel Peace Price in his pocket, he still needed time to get going.

Incompetence and corruption ?  On the incompetence, see above about turning around ocean liners and then there is that shovel ready thing of Obama's.  Solyndra ...  Can't get much more incompetent than that.  $1 Trillion worth of incompetence.  This from candidate Obama who self proclaimed that he was the "best choice to lead on the economy".  The Red Line in Syria, Daesh is the JV team (and the last two were in his second term) ...   On the corruption, show me the proof, then I'll address it.  So far there is no proof of anything.  Just stories based on anonymous sources that have yet to be backed up with any kind of evidence other than hearsay.

But what ever the case, you have all the proof you need, based only upon bylines and mastheads.  And you act on that unverified proof and base all your points on it.

Like I said, show me the proof and then we'll have something to talk about ...

 
in the post that follows that statement.  Loosely translated:  "Oh Look! A Squirrel!" 

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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 7:27am

 ScottN wrote:

The sheriff may think differently about this unprecedented madness.  re: GOP.  Support is eroding quickly as manifest in Tuesday's statements by many GOP'ers.  Recall, please, that it was Nixon's own party which eventually did him in.  That may well happen again.

Yes, "regime change" is very tough to do, but I believe it safe to say that the social psyche has already been beaten to crap in 115 days or so by this maniac. This stress is being felt acutely in DC, by many accounts.  Unprecedented madness may lead to unprecedented steps.  Let's hope.

 
What's fascinating to me is that the Prez truly has no governor and no real concept of right or wrong. Therefore anything he does (in his mind) is right and justified based on his status as Leader of the Free World. He can't even fathom stepping outside of himself long enough to consider how an action he is contemplating could be wrong because he could never be wrong. This isn't news to anyone but these personality flaws are impossible shortcomings to have as president.

His impulsiveness, inflexibility, and inability to truly contemplate the consequences of his actions are what I believe what will ultimately lead to his undoing because the parade of horrors will simply continue.
  


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 7:01am

 ScottN wrote:

The sheriff may think differently about this unprecedented madness.  re: GOP.  Support is eroding quickly as manifest in Tuesday's statements by many GOP'ers.  Recall, please, that it was Nixon's own party which eventually did him in.  That may well happen again.

Yes, "regime change" is very tough to do, but I believe it safe to say that the social psyche has already been beaten to crap in 115 days or so by this maniac. This stress is being felt acutely in DC, by many accounts.  Unprecedented madness may lead to unprecedented steps.  Let's hope.

 
Amen to that brother.
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