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Antigone

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Beanie wrote: There was no "resign" about it; he was fired by Kelly, although in his own way Bannon can be more successful (by his own definition) if he's not in the White House. His fetters are off and he can spend all his time pandering to his mouth-breathing Breitbart followers. Who will eat up his hateful swill with a spoon.
Don't hold back now, B, tell us how you really feel.
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Beanie

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black321 wrote: and now Bannon resigns.
There was no "resign" about it; he was fired by Kelly, although in his own way Bannon can be more successful (by his own definition) if he's not in the White House. His fetters are off and he can spend all his time pandering to his mouth-breathing Breitbart followers. Who will eat up his hateful swill with a spoon.
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Prodigal_SOB

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black321

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Proclivities wrote: Jared Kushner has been conspicuously silent/absent of late; I imagine he would have an opinion about those groups.
and now Bannon resigns.
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Red_Dragon

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Proclivities

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black321 wrote: Jared Kushner has been conspicuously silent/absent of late; I imagine he would have an opinion about those groups.
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black321

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It's something when i guy like Bannon sounds like the reasonable one: Trump adviser Steve Bannon dubs white nationalists 'clowns'also said there is no military solution to NK http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40958329
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Red_Dragon

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ScottFromWyoming

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Proclivities

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Red_Dragon wrote: Yeah, that was debunked when he mentioned it during the campaign... nevertheless, he persisted.
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Red_Dragon

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Aug 18, 2017 - 6:18am |
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steeler

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Aug 17, 2017 - 2:36pm |
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Antigone wrote:Fake news!  In looking at that link, I realize that he did not imply that counter-protesters lacked a permit, he stated it. I guess those are part of the "facts" he said he knew about that others who paid less attention did not. Fake news, indeed!
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Antigone

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Aug 17, 2017 - 2:31pm |
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steeler wrote:Ah, I did not know that. Foolishly relied upon Trump implying that they did not! Fake news!
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steeler

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Aug 17, 2017 - 2:27pm |
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Antigone wrote: Ah, I did not know that. Foolishly relied upon Trump implying that they did not!
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Antigone

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Aug 17, 2017 - 2:24pm |
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steeler wrote:Yes. And we need also to focus upon the comments of Trump regarding what happened in Charlottesville, which is where this discussion on this thread began. Just like any individual, Trump has First Amendment rights. He can speak his mind. As President, however, in times such as these, he needs to speak forthrightly to reassure the American people and reinforce the values upon which this country stands. Did he do that? What was his message? We do not need a tutorial on First Amendment rights. It is irrelevant, for example, that the white nationalists had a permit and the counter-protesters did not. We do not need to be reminded that it takes 2 to tango. There were much, much larger issues to address. He denounced (on his second try) the neo-Nazis, KKK, and white supremacists, but he really did not denounce their message. Instead, he denounced violence — on many sides. Irrelevant yes, but ... the counter-protesters DID have a permit.
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steeler

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NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: No one is arguing against this Kurtster. Violence is always a last resort and basically an admission of failure on all other fronts.
It is NOT the point at issue. The point at issue is that you have an open democratic society (a feat in itself) that is patently dedicated to maximising the ability of each man, woman, child and president to pursue life liberty and happiness no matter their race, religion, social class or the number of warts on their backside (how well it succeeds at this is secondary). AND in this open society you have a subculture who openly spit upon the founding values of openness, equal and fair treatment for minorities such as blacks and jews. When they do this they are not only attacking the minorities, they are attacking the very society which is magnanimous enough to let them say that openly.
So when they get attacked and people like you start coming up with "1st amendment" it smacks of hypocrisy for this very freedom and more is something this subculture would quite happily deprive blacks and jews of.
Sure they have a right to say what they think. In fact, it is way better they do this openly than go underground. But this doesn't make it ok, in the same way that it is not ok for aggressive elements on the left to take this as an excuse for a pitched battle, no matter how cathartic that might feel.
Yes. And we need also to focus upon the comments of Trump regarding what happened in Charlottesville, which is where this discussion on this thread began. Just like any individual, Trump has First Amendment rights. He can speak his mind. As President, however, in times such as these, he needs to speak forthrightly to reassure the American people and reinforce the values upon which this country stands. Did he do that? What was his message? We do not need a tutorial on First Amendment rights. It is irrelevant, for example, that the white nationalists had a permit and the counter-protesters did not. We do not need to be reminded that it takes 2 to tango. There were much, much larger issues to address. He denounced (on his second try) the neo-Nazis, KKK, and white supremacists, but he really did not denounce their message. Instead, he denounced violence — on many sides.
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black321

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Aug 17, 2017 - 12:13pm |
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Red_Dragon wrote:Trump's 7 months of self-destruction: President Trump, with at least two years of full Republican control of government at the national and state levels, has systematically damaged or destroyed his relationship with — well, almost every group or individual essential to success. This has left him on an island inhabited by a shrinking band of true-believer voters, who can help win an election, but can do nothing to help him exploit the power he's wasting: Yesterday's mass exodus of CEOs from his outside business councils was an unusually abrupt sign of the 210 days of rot and erosion in his support. A vivid demonstration of the sudden abandonment of Trump, via CNN's Brian Stelter: Shep Smith said he couldn't get a single Republican to go on Fox News to defend Trump. On MSNBC, Chuck Todd said he "invited every single Republican senator on this program tonight, all 52," plus a dozen House GOPers. None would do it. On CNN, Kate Bolduan said bookers called 55 Republicans, and only one said yes. Why it matters: Trump's undisciplined and incendiary style has left the most powerful man in the world with few friends — not one in the United States Senate, for instance. Trump started with a pretty clean slate but has methodically alienated: The public: Gallup has his approval at 34%, down from 46% just after the inauguration. Republican congressional leaders — Senate Majority Mitch McConnell in particular. Every Democrat who could help him do a deal. The media. CEOs. World leaders. Europe. Muslims. Hispanics. African Americans. Military leaders. The intelligence community. His own staff. And who's happy? Steve Bannon. Saudi Arabia. Breitbart. David Duke. Be smart: The presidency is a lonely job. But Trump is unusually isolated because he thinks he needs no one besides himself. As one of his most ardent defenders told me: "He's just not as good as he thinks he is. And no one can tell him."
~Mike Allen What his next trick? Kicking puppies or punching pregnant women in the gut?
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VV

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Aug 17, 2017 - 12:02pm |
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VV wrote: Really? Take another look... all of them are Trump's! All he does week-in-and-week out is to s*ht the bed and leaves it to his people to try and clean up after him. This week he shat the bed, then begrudgingly and half-heartedly tried to clean it up and then turned around the next day left an even bigger pile than the first one. The bottom line this week is that the president in no uncertain terms exposed himself as sympathetic to various hate-groups and cemented himself as a racist. I know that you have long ago abandoned trying to truly defend him because you have realized doing so is a losing proposition. Instead you would rather redirect any discussion away from dealing with Trump in order to discuss the history of racism, what Obama did or didn't do... etc. It's sad though that even though you no longer can credibly defend him you still seem entirely comfortable in blindly supporting him. Was Trump speaking to you directly when he said he could kill someone on the street and still have people support him?
This is a president who seems to thrive on division... whether that division be in his cabinet or in the Nation at-large. This president had a golden opportunity to demonstrate his leadership and immediately denounce hate but he ultimately decided to embrace it. This isn't a person anyone should support, emulate or follow. At least not anyone with a shred of dignity, morals or basic common sense. He's a hateful unbalanced sociopath totally unfit to lead this country and needs to be removed immediately before he can do more damage to the position and the Nation.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/divided-country-exactly-trump-wants-001122967.html
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Aug 17, 2017 - 11:28am |
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Trump's 7 months of self-destruction: President Trump, with at least two years of full Republican control of government at the national and state levels, has systematically damaged or destroyed his relationship with — well, almost every group or individual essential to success. This has left him on an island inhabited by a shrinking band of true-believer voters, who can help win an election, but can do nothing to help him exploit the power he's wasting: Yesterday's mass exodus of CEOs from his outside business councils was an unusually abrupt sign of the 210 days of rot and erosion in his support. A vivid demonstration of the sudden abandonment of Trump, via CNN's Brian Stelter: Shep Smith said he couldn't get a single Republican to go on Fox News to defend Trump. On MSNBC, Chuck Todd said he "invited every single Republican senator on this program tonight, all 52," plus a dozen House GOPers. None would do it. On CNN, Kate Bolduan said bookers called 55 Republicans, and only one said yes. Why it matters: Trump's undisciplined and incendiary style has left the most powerful man in the world with few friends — not one in the United States Senate, for instance. Trump started with a pretty clean slate but has methodically alienated: The public: Gallup has his approval at 34%, down from 46% just after the inauguration. Republican congressional leaders — Senate Majority Mitch McConnell in particular. Every Democrat who could help him do a deal. The media. CEOs. World leaders. Europe. Muslims. Hispanics. African Americans. Military leaders. The intelligence community. His own staff. And who's happy? Steve Bannon. Saudi Arabia. Breitbart. David Duke. Be smart: The presidency is a lonely job. But Trump is unusually isolated because he thinks he needs no one besides himself. As one of his most ardent defenders told me: "He's just not as good as he thinks he is. And no one can tell him."
~Mike Allen
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