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olivertwist

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Posted: Aug 2, 2016 - 5:31am


Is Donald Trump Just Plain Crazy?

By Eugene Robinson

During the primary season, as Donald Trump’s bizarre outbursts helped him crush the competition, I thought he was being crazy like a fox. Now I am increasingly convinced that he’s just plain crazy.

I’m serious about that. Leave aside for the moment Trump’s policies, which in my opinion range from the unconstitutional to the un-American to the potentially catastrophic. At this point, it would be irresponsible to ignore the fact that Trump’s grasp on reality appears to be tenuous at best.

Begin with the fact that he lies the way other people breathe. Telling a self-serving lie — no matter how transparent, no matter how easily disproved — seems to be a reflex for him. Look at the things he has said in just the past week.


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 2, 2016 - 4:55am

Of course. That way it won't be his fault when he loses. The man is utterly incapable of taking responsibility for himself.


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Posted: Aug 2, 2016 - 2:11am

 haresfur wrote:

You do have one. Her name is Hillary.

 
Thank you! {#Lol}
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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 9:25pm

 kurtster wrote:

Ah shucks, you didn't have to go and get all politically correct for me.

{#Notworthy} 

 
Never (burp) have been. Never (fart) will.
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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 8:50pm

 Steely_D wrote:

The binary choice is between the incompetent asshole salesman and the highly trained liar politician.

 
Ah shucks, you didn't have to go and get all politically correct for me.

{#Notworthy} 
Steely_D

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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 8:31pm

 kurtster wrote:
So the binary choice is between a proven asshole and the proven liar.  

The advantage goes to the liar cuz its easier to deny being lied to than to deny being insulted. 

That and the liar promises the most free stuff.

{#Cowboy} 

 
The binary choice is between the incompetent asshole salesman and the highly trained liar politician.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 7:34pm

yeah, there IS a goddamn difference
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 7:21pm

So the binary choice is between a proven asshole and the proven liar.  

The advantage goes to the liar cuz its easier to deny being lied to than to deny being insulted. 

That and the liar promises the most free stuff.

{#Cowboy} 
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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 6:08pm

 islander wrote:

I've said this before, but Andy Kaufman 'died' about the same time Trump started his rise in the public. I'm still willing to give odds that on very near (maybe after) the election, he will pull the mask off and say "here I come to save the day" - thus ending th longest piece of performance art in history. 

There are other explanations but they say very bad/ugly things about us as a people, so I'm really hoping it's Kaufman.

 
A ha! An optimist!
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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 5:58pm

 VV wrote:

The thing that completely floored me was Trump's thinly veiled insinuation that the mother didn't speak because her religious affiliation would not allow her to. So what? If that were even true (it's not)... who cares? How does that take away from the ultimate sacrifice that their son made for this country?

When Trump tried to make that an issue, I could clearly see that Trump didn't want to acknowledge the ultimate sacrifice that the Khan's son made and didn't understand the message being delivered. He decided instead to try and derail that message because lashing blindly back at any derogatory statements made about him by anyone is Trump's modis operandi. Trump has never once apologized for any of the stupid statements/actions he has made throughout his campaign and this will never change. For to apologize in Trump's world would be an admission that he was wrong and to apologize would also show weakness. These are two things that he could never admit to himself or anyone else so we are simply left with the fallout of a sulking, petulant, emotionally stunted, egotistical bully that is prone to verbal tantruming at the drop of a hat.   

 

 
Yes. Bullseye. 

Trump's no-apology approach works when he's talking about politicians or celebrities or famous people. To Trump supporters, they're fair game and deserving of rough treatment. But that "strength" looks ugly and hateful when he hurts regular people. That WashPo article I pointed to in my previous post just below reports that Trump's mocking of a disabled NYT reporter really stuck in the craw of focus groups. Like attacking the Khans, that kind of behavior is out of bounds; it's cruel and bullying. 

Trump will have to make friends with more voters in order to win. I don't think he's capable of that or showing compassion and humility. 
 
ScottN

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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 5:54pm

 haresfur wrote:
Washington Post front page:

14 articles mentioning Trump
2 mentioning Clinton (and one was Howard Stern wanting her to come on his show) 

All publicity is good publicity 

 
From David Brooks, on Sunday:

"And I wonder what this moral pygmy on top of a ticket what’s doing to the country and what will do as President.’"


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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 5:45pm

 Steely_D wrote:

When the VFW comes after you, it's not so good.
Particularly if you've been beating your chest about how you want to take care of veterans. 

 
Seems like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell have found their balls and are criticizing Douchebag Don as well, along with other GOP politicians: 

 

Some interesting points from this WashPo article (emphases are mine):

 

Khan confrontation keys in on human decency — and that could haunt Trump




“Nobody minds when he attacks other politicians; in fact, they like it. He’s instilling an ­accountability that doesn’t exist. But they don’t like it when he goes after real people, and they wish he would stop,” said GOP pollster Frank Luntz, who conducted a focus group about Trump with voters Friday in Columbus, Ohio.


...

Critics believe that in the case of the Khans, Trump has gone way too far, comparing it to a famed turning point for McCarthyism in the 1950s. Grilled by then-Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy at a congressional hearing as part of the Wisconsin Republican’s crusade to root out communist sympathizers, then-Army counsel Joseph N. Welch asked, “Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

Initial reports suggest the Khan episode has hurt Trump, at least for now. A pair of national polls taken over the weekend and released Monday showed a ­sizable bump for Clinton, suggesting the Khan affair, coupled with a successful Democratic convention, was working to her advantage. Clinton led 52 percent to 43 percent in a CNN-ORC survey and 47 percent to 41 percent in a CBS News survey.

Polls consistently show that Trump’s biggest vulnerabilities are on questions of character and temperament. Three-quarters of Americans said Trump does not show enough respect for people he disagrees with, and 55 percent said this was a “major problem,” according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll in May.

...


Democratic strategist Stephanie Cutter, a former adviser to Obama, said Trump’s comments about the Khans are breaking through to voters because they violate people’s expectations of decency and empathy.

“They worry about what kind of role model this sets for their kids,” Cutter said. “They don’t want a president who is insulting people based on their disability or religion or gender or threatening to knock somebody in the head.”

 

 


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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 5:33pm

 Steely_D wrote:

When the VFW comes after you, it's not so good.
Particularly if you've been beating your chest about how you want to take care of veterans. 

 
From the VFW statement:

When you question a mother’s pain, by implying that her religion, not her grief, kept her from addressing an arena of people, you are attacking us,” the Gold Star families wrote. “When you say your job building buildings is akin to our sacrifice, you are attacking our sacrifice.”

 


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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 5:13pm

 haresfur wrote:
Washington Post front page:

14 articles mentioning Trump
2 mentioning Clinton (and one was Howard Stern wanting her to come on his show) 

All publicity is good publicity 

 
When the VFW comes after you, it's not so good.
Particularly if you've been beating your chest about how you want to take care of veterans. 
ScottN

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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 5:06pm

 haresfur wrote:
Washington Post front page:

14 articles mentioning Trump
2 mentioning Clinton (and one was Howard Stern wanting her to come on his show) 

All publicity is good publicity 

 
No, not today.


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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 4:18pm

Washington Post front page:

14 articles mentioning Trump
2 mentioning Clinton (and one was Howard Stern wanting her to come on his show) 

All publicity is good publicity 
haresfur

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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 4:06pm

 Steely_D wrote:

I regularly believe that visionaries lack traction in society because there are so many different visions. It's hard to get a large group of people to support one of them and move towards that idea. (Example: bullet train)

This just happened in the Republican party: it fragmented so badly due to the Tea Party, religious groups, and the resulting schism, there was no legit unified GOP vision. That chaos allowed someone with an ego to stand up and say - literally - "I'm the least racist person there is." "I'm with you, the American People." and "I will give you everything." (you can find these easily on google)

So, if you don't have a good, real Republican candidate (what happened to Huntsman?) then you get this basically unopposed doofus. If there were a good GOP candidate, why did he/she sit on their hands?
Is it an agreement that they shouldn't waste their time running against Hillary? I always thought that was the tacit agreement with Romney: let him have his swing at it, but he can't really win and we shouldn't waste a good candidate when the result is inevitable.

 
You do have one. Her name is Hillary.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 3:51pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

Every time he stuck his foot in it and said something idiotic or unbelievably cruel or clueless or transparently dishonest I thought "Stick a fork in him, he's done, no way he's coming back from that" and every time I've been wrong. I have given up making predictions about this race.

All I can conclude is that his supporters just aren't listening. They're projecting what they want him to be onto that fake-gold-leaf-framed canvas and nothing about who he really is is going to get in the way of that vision. That, or they hate Hillary so much that they will take any alternative. An empty lawn chair. A painting of Ronald Reagan on black velvet. A bucket of rancid deep-fat-fryer grease last used to cook babies.

 
Ayup. Their minds are made up, don't try to confuse them with facts. The antichrist they believe Clinton to be cannot hold a candle to the horrors that will be visited upon us - and the rest of the world - if this psychopath gets in the white house.
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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 3:45pm

 VV wrote:
The thing that completely floored me was Trump's thinly veiled insinuation that the mother didn't speak because her religious affiliation would not allow her to. So what? If that were even true (it's not)... who cares? How does that take away from the ultimate sacrifice that their son made for this country?

When Trump tried to make that an issue, I could clearly see that Trump didn't want to acknowledge the ultimate sacrifice that the Khan's son made and didn't understand the message being delivered. He decided instead to try and derail that message because lashing blindly back at any derogatory statements made about him by anyone is Trump's modis operandi. Trump has never once apologized for any of the stupid statements/actions he has made throughout his campaign and this will never change. For to apologize in Trump's world would be an admission that he was wrong and to apologize would also show weakness. These are two things that he could never admit to himself or anyone else so we are simply left with the fallout of a sulking, petulant, emotionally stunted, egotistical bully that is prone to verbal tantruming at the drop of a hat.  

Every time he stuck his foot in it and said something idiotic or unbelievably cruel or clueless or transparently dishonest I thought "Stick a fork in him, he's done, no way he's coming back from that" and every time I've been wrong. I have given up making predictions about this race.

All I can conclude is that his supporters just aren't listening. They're projecting what they want him to be onto that fake-gold-leaf-framed canvas and nothing about who he really is is going to get in the way of that vision. That, or they hate Hillary so much that they will take any alternative. An empty lawn chair. A painting of Ronald Reagan on black velvet. A bucket of rancid deep-fat-fryer grease last used to cook babies.

Anything but a third party candidate.


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Posted: Aug 1, 2016 - 3:37pm

 VV wrote:

The thing that completely floored me was Trump's thinly veiled insinuation that the mother didn't speak because her religious affiliation would not allow her to. 

 

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