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Posted: Apr 7, 2021 - 2:18pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
VV wrote:
Soooooo what did you buy?


Suitable for Kool-Aid.
 

"i lol'd for real"

-sfw
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Posted: Apr 7, 2021 - 2:14pm

VV wrote:
Soooooo what did you buy?


Suitable for Kool-Aid.
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Posted: Apr 7, 2021 - 1:43pm



 rgio wrote:
So...somehow I have found my way on to a Republican texting list...and received this a few mins ago.   

President Trump: We released our official SAVE AMERICA gear & I'm giving YOU EARLY-ACCESS for the NEXT HOUR ONLY! Don't wait. Shop NOW: bit.ly/31VCWsA


SAVE AMERICA!!!  
 

Soooooo what did you buy?
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Posted: Apr 7, 2021 - 12:54pm

So...somehow I have found my way on to a Republican texting list...and received this a few mins ago.   

President Trump: We released our official SAVE AMERICA gear & I'm giving YOU EARLY-ACCESS for the NEXT HOUR ONLY! Don't wait. Shop NOW: bit.ly/31VCWsA


SAVE AMERICA!!!  
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Posted: Apr 4, 2021 - 5:13am



 kcar wrote:
Trump screws his supporters over—what a surprise. Donors to Trump's re-election campaign were signed up to recurring donations without their knowledge. Trump's campaign and WinRed also doubled donors' contributions without their consent.
 
I moved my parents from Florida in 2017 to a house in PA, and then ultimately to a facility in NJ.  For the final move, I changed their mailing address to my home.   They obviously had given money to Trump in 2016...because the sheer volume of mail was amazing.  

Every single letter started with a warning....unless you help, the far left is going to destroy America.  It was always amazing to me that so many voted for Trump because he was a "great businessman", yet the billionaire needed the help of seniors, retirees, and everyday citizens.  Abusing your supporters by tricking them into giving more than they believe they are giving is FRAUD.  The surprise isn't that Trump is a crook, it's that so many can't follow the multiple scams he's running.

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Posted: Apr 3, 2021 - 9:21pm

Trump screws his supporters over—what a surprise. Donors to Trump's re-election campaign were signed up to recurring donations without their knowledge. Trump's campaign and WinRed also doubled donors' contributions without their consent. 


How Trump Steered Supporters Into Unwitting Donations



...

What the Blatts soon discovered was $3,000 in withdrawals by the Trump campaign in less than 30 days. They called their bank and said they thought they were victims of fraud.

“It felt,” Russell said, “like it was a scam.”

But what the Blatts believed was duplicity was actually an intentional scheme to boost revenues by the Trump campaign and the for-profit company that processed its online donations, WinRed. Facing a cash crunch and getting badly outspent by the Democrats, the campaign had begun last September to set up recurring donations by default for online donors, for every week until the election.

Contributors had to wade through a fine-print disclaimer and manually uncheck a box to opt out.

As the election neared, the Trump team made that disclaimer increasingly opaque, an investigation by The New York Times showed. It introduced a second prechecked box, known internally as a “money bomb,” that doubled a person’s contribution. Eventually its solicitations featured lines of text in bold and capital letters that overwhelmed the opt-out language.


The tactic ensnared scores of unsuspecting Trump loyalists — retirees, military veterans, nurses and even experienced political operatives. Soon, banks and credit card companies were inundated with fraud complaints from the president’s own supporters about donations they had not intended to make, sometimes for thousands of dollars.

“Bandits!” said Victor Amelino, a 78-year-old Californian, who made a $990 online donation to Mr. Trump in early September via WinRed. It recurred seven more times — adding up to almost $8,000. “I’m retired. I can’t afford to pay all that damn money.”

The sheer magnitude of the money involved is staggering for politics. In the final two and a half months of 2020, the Trump campaign, the Republican National Committee and their shared accounts issued more than 530,000 refunds worth $64.3 million to online donors. All campaigns make refunds for various reasons, including to people who give more than the legal limit. But the sum the Trump operation refunded dwarfed that of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign and his equivalent Democratic committees, which made 37,000 online refunds totaling $5.6 million in that time.

The recurring donations swelled Mr. Trump’s treasury in September and October, just as his finances were deteriorating. He was then able to use tens of millions of dollars he raised after the election, under the guise of fighting his unfounded fraud claims, to help cover the refunds he owed.

In effect, the money that Mr. Trump eventually had to refund amounted to an interest-free loan from unwitting supporters at the most important juncture of the 2020 race.


...

Political strategists, digital operatives and campaign finance experts said they could not recall ever seeing refunds at such a scale. Mr. Trump, the R.N.C. and their shared accounts refunded far more money to online donors in the last election cycle than every federal Democratic candidate and committee in the country combined.

Over all, the Trump operation refunded 10.7 percent of the money it raised on WinRed in 2020; the Biden operation’s refund rate on ActBlue, the parallel Democratic online donation-processing platform, was 2.2 percent, federal records show.

...
Mr. Trump’s hyperaggressive fund-raising practices did not stop once he lost the election. His campaign continued the weekly withdrawals through prechecked boxes all the way through Dec. 14 as he raised tens of millions of dollars for his new political action committee, Save America.

In March, Mr. Trump urged his followers to send their money to him — and not to the traditional party apparatus — making plain that he intends to remain the gravitational center of Republican fund-raising online.



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Posted: Apr 2, 2021 - 2:13pm

Pizza-Gate Rev 2.0

Washington Post:

Italian pizza shop owner mistakenly sanctioned by Trump: ‘I thought it was a joke’



On the very last day President Donald Trump was in office in January, his administration announced new sanctions targeting a catering company in Verona, Italy.



But for Alessandro Bazzoni, the owner of the catering company, it was a confounding move. He was not involved in sanctions evasion with Venezuela.


And yet now his bank accounts were blocked by U.S. sanctions that targeted him.


“I discovered that I ended up on the blacklist one morning two months ago in the bank, when I saw my current accounts blocked,” Bazzoni told Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera on Friday.


The U.S. Treasury announced this week that it was removing the company linked to Bazzoni — a catering firm that shares an address with his pizza shop, Dolce Gusto — from its sanctions blacklist.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2021 - 11:43am

Trump's fault.

(sound on)
Joe Biden trips three times boarding Air Force One

I'm old enough to remember when Democrats mocked Trump for being careful when walking down the stairs.
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Posted: Mar 19, 2021 - 11:15am



 KarmaKarma wrote:

 

Shill &/or troll
Traditionally (and having been here for decades I can say that) RP is music first, diversions like politics second.
KK is a distruptive annoyance first, and love of music isn't really a part of their schtick. RP is where they go to stir shit, and it's a shame.
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Posted: Mar 18, 2021 - 6:27pm

Taibbi: Aaugh! A Brief List Of Official Russia Claims That Proved To Be Bogus
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Posted: Mar 18, 2021 - 5:02pm



 haresfur wrote:


 kurtster wrote:


What has been lost on everyone here is that this fake story was used as actual evidence for Trump's second impeachment.

 
First the Post reported what the source told them and described what they were told but did not name the source. That is not journalistic fraud - the reported what they were told. The Washington Post was told there was no recording. It turns out the exact words were wrong but the gist of the conversation was correct - trump was attempting to pressure GA officials to overturn the election results in not only this call but in others. It is unfortunate that GA did not release the recording immediately in the interests of transparency but apparently Francis Watson, the GA official on the call tried to delete it. 

Of course trump could have recorded the call and released the recording but he's not transparent enough to do so. No did he have someone in the room taking notes that could be released.

So it wasn't a fake story, it was a story with some errors due to an official misquoting the president.

The impeachment was based on available information and certainly was rushed to try to prevent trump from further election interference like he did, right up until the electoral college votes were tallied. Given that, the problem is that the senate republicans did not want to have a proper trial with witnesses and evidence. They could have laid out their side of the case including the actual recording of this particular call. They could have cross-examined Frances Watson as to what she heard. They could have cross examined her as to what action she then took. There were ample opportunities for republicans in Georgia, in the Trump administration, and the senate to do the right thing or even take a responsible position to present their best case. They didn't because they were trying to cover their and trump's asses.

trump brought it on himself and the only difference is that he was more careful about choosing his words when asking GA to rig the results than was first reported.
 
Exactly.

What is funny is that someone earlier posted a link to a Washington Examiner story with a headline stating that the media got it “all wrong.” Um . . . No.

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Posted: Mar 18, 2021 - 5:03am



 haresfur wrote:


 kurtster wrote:


What has been lost on everyone here is that this fake story was used as actual evidence for Trump's second impeachment.

 
First the Post reported what the source told them and described what they were told but did not name the source. That is not journalistic fraud - the reported what they were told. The Washington Post was told there was no recording. It turns out the exact words were wrong but the gist of the conversation was correct - trump was attempting to pressure GA officials to overturn the election results in not only this call but in others. It is unfortunate that GA did not release the recording immediately in the interests of transparency but apparently Francis Watson, the GA official on the call tried to delete it. 

Of course trump could have recorded the call and released the recording but he's not transparent enough to do so. No did he have someone in the room taking notes that could be released.

So it wasn't a fake story, it was a story with some errors due to an official misquoting the president.

The impeachment was based on available information and certainly was rushed to try to prevent trump from further election interference like he did, right up until the electoral college votes were tallied. Given that, the problem is that the senate republicans did not want to have a proper trial with witnesses and evidence. They could have laid out their side of the case including the actual recording of this particular call. They could have cross-examined Frances Watson as to what she heard. They could have cross examined her as to what action she then took. There were ample opportunities for republicans in Georgia, in the Trump administration, and the senate to do the right thing or even take a responsible position to present their best case. They didn't because they were trying to cover their and trump's asses.

trump brought it on himself and the only difference is that he was more careful about choosing his words when asking GA to rig the results than was first reported.
 
Very well articulated however it will be lost on your intended audience as logic doesn't appear to be his strong suit. 

haresfur

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Posted: Mar 17, 2021 - 11:46pm



 kurtster wrote:


What has been lost on everyone here is that this fake story was used as actual evidence for Trump's second impeachment.

 
First the Post reported what the source told them and described what they were told but did not name the source. That is not journalistic fraud - the reported what they were told. The Washington Post was told there was no recording. It turns out the exact words were wrong but the gist of the conversation was correct - trump was attempting to pressure GA officials to overturn the election results in not only this call but in others. It is unfortunate that GA did not release the recording immediately in the interests of transparency but apparently Francis Watson, the GA official on the call tried to delete it. 

Of course trump could have recorded the call and released the recording but he's not transparent enough to do so. No did he have someone in the room taking notes that could be released.

So it wasn't a fake story, it was a story with some errors due to an official misquoting the president.

The impeachment was based on available information and certainly was rushed to try to prevent trump from further election interference like he did, right up until the electoral college votes were tallied. Given that, the problem is that the senate republicans did not want to have a proper trial with witnesses and evidence. They could have laid out their side of the case including the actual recording of this particular call. They could have cross-examined Frances Watson as to what she heard. They could have cross examined her as to what action she then took. There were ample opportunities for republicans in Georgia, in the Trump administration, and the senate to do the right thing or even take a responsible position to present their best case. They didn't because they were trying to cover their and trump's asses.

trump brought it on himself and the only difference is that he was more careful about choosing his words when asking GA to rig the results than was first reported.
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Posted: Mar 17, 2021 - 10:13pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:


 VV wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:


 VV wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:


 VV wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Who cares ?  The damage is done and once again your side cheats its way to the finish line.

That is all that matters.
 

Wrong again. Trump was the one engaged in cheating by pressuring officials to magically find votes for him that weren’t cast. He fortunately wasn’t able to cheat his his way back into a second term though he certainly pulled out all the stops to do so.

That’s all that matters.
 

lolol  Their really should be a reality test for voters.  Obviously, you would fail.  Do you even follow the news?  A tiny wee bit?
 

Yes, do you?
 

There you go. All caught up now.
 
Correct, on a call Trump made to pressure an official to magically find votes for him that weren’t cast. He fortunately wasn’t able to cheat his his way back into a second term though he certainly pulled out all the stops to do so.

Misquotes are certainly serious and need to be corrected but the inappropriate nature and basis for the call "trumped" / far overshadowed that. Did the misquotes change the fact that Trump was trying to strongarm someone into doing his bidding?

There ya go... now you are all caught up as well.

 
If Trump's actual words were so bad, then why the need for a deliberate misquote fed to friendly press?  Logic isn't your strong suit.

"Can we be clear about something... the DEPUTY SECY OF STATE was briefing fake news about POTUS while there were mass calls for recounts and ballot audits.  America’s systems are broken."


This is the entire problem with this website.  You all are so very focused on litigating (defending your Dems!) yesterdays news that you are (deliberately?) missing the important actions underway of here and now.  You should be investing your enegies on those.

 
What has been lost on everyone here is that this fake story was used as actual evidence for Trump's second impeachment.  This is the same MO used during the Russia, Russia, Russia, thingy.  Make up a story, print it.  Have it reprinted and used for verification of other articles claiming the same thing, only nothing was ever verified to begin with. 

This is the way the left operates to come up with "facts" to frame their opponents.  Plant a story.  Have it cited and then use the citation as verification of its authenticity because it was used in a citation.  Then a party loyalist will then start citing it as a factual truth because there were more than one source in "credible" media and call for investigations.  Then an elected democrat will use their authority to call for an official investigation and then do so.  Meanwhile the media sources use the calls for investigations to further establish credibility for the original phony story.  They wouldn't be investigating this story if there wasn't truth behind it ...

Some day the sheeple will wake up to this tactic of how made up and unverified anonymous sources become verified and factual, even though they without any substance what so ever.  I read it in the Times or WAPO, or saw it on CNN, so it must be true.  Until then, this will be done over and over again.  It will keep succeeding because the readers are okay with the ends justifying the means.   Just as it will be here and now, again as it was before with the Russia, Russia, Russia, thingy. 

Sigh ...
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Posted: Mar 17, 2021 - 3:10pm

Can Cyrus Vance, Jr., Nail Trump? | The New Yorker
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Posted: Mar 17, 2021 - 2:37pm

Donnie Owes $400 MILLION to Deutch Bank....  and three other powerful Investigations are closing in. Cohen had 7 interviews with the FBI. 
I'd place bets on a particular sphincter tingling...
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Posted: Mar 17, 2021 - 2:36pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:


I accept your concession.

 

Could you accept your irrelevance while you're at it? 





Please don't be my neighbor! 
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Posted: Mar 17, 2021 - 2:32pm

KarmaKarma wrote:
You continue to insist on conflating different topics.  Good luck with that strategy in a court of law.

So you are conceding that your interpretation of the context of this court case and subsequent ruling (in plaintiff & Michigan Republican Party's favor) was in fact entirely wrong.

I accept your concession.

You insist on bringing up trivial matters regarding an election as if they had some relevance to American politics.

Did the Michigan SoS's actions violate state law? Sure. So what?
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Posted: Mar 17, 2021 - 2:10pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
KarmaKarma wrote:
You are conflating one Trump claim into another to try to prove a point not being made here.

At issue is the SOS of Michigan unilaterally changing election rules she had no business doing.  That's what the lawsuit is.  That's what Trump complained about.  Claiming otherwise is disingenuous.

So...are you conceding that this is utterly meaningless to the stolen election claim? Because it sounds like you are.

Because it is.
 
You continue to insist on conflating different topics.  Good luck with that strategy in a court of law.

So you are conceding that your interpretation of the context of this court case and subsequent ruling (in plaintiff & Michigan Republican Party's favor) was in fact entirely wrong.

I accept your concession.

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Posted: Mar 17, 2021 - 2:05pm

KarmaKarma wrote:
You are conflating one Trump claim into another to try to prove a point not being made here.

At issue is the SOS of Michigan unilaterally changing election rules she had no business doing.  That's what the lawsuit is.  That's what Trump complained about.  Claiming otherwise is disingenuous.

So...are you conceding that this is utterly meaningless to the stolen election claim? Because it sounds like you are.

Because it is.
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