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Posted: Oct 2, 2017 - 12:57am

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What can Trump do better than he presently is given the circumstances ?  That's the biggest and most important question here after all.
 

Learning how to make a deal would be a good start.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 6:42pm


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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 6:09pm

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What can Trump do better than he presently is given the circumstances ?  That's the biggest and most important question here after all.

 

Stop the divisive, threatening, abusive, petty, careless, degrading (to him and the office) tweets.


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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 3:58pm

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Dear God I don’t Have the time or energy to try and talk sense to someone who dosn’t want to listen. One librarian rejects Suess books and the moral fiber of our Conurty is a stake? Again you priorities are way out of wack. Your words paint you as a true idiot. Continue to keep your head in the sand that way you don’t have to watch Trump f*ck up everything he touches and pretend everything is great while taking the country down with him.
Vic

 
That's you're opinion on the books.

I did also reply about Puerto Rico.  You breezed right over that.  What say you on that ?

You gave him an F on his efforts so far.

What can Trump do better than he presently is given the circumstances ?  That's the biggest and most important question here after all.


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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 12:29pm

The Growing Irrelevance of President Trump

He is still a dangerous showman and conman, but when it comes to the actual work of governing America, the president is becoming utterly and completely irrelevant.

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Announcement: Donald Trump is no longer the president of the United States.

Oh sure, he has the title and he has the bully pulpit—from which he’s bullying everyone from NBA players to people protesting white supremacists to DACA kids.

But he's not actively governing the United States. That work is happening elsewhere—in Congress, the courts, the Fed, the career civil service, lobbyists, and in the states. Or it's not happening at all. 

It's not just that Trump lost the epic battle to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. Trump never understood the Affordable Care Act to begin with, and played no part in developing Republican alternatives.

The budget Trump submitted to Congress in March was dead on arrival. House Republicans ignored Trump's request for $54 billion in cuts to departments and agencies and decided instead to cut non-defense spending by just $5 billion, and explode the defense budget.

The nine-page tax plan congressional Republicans and Trump unveiled last week only vaguely resembles Trump's original tax proposal from April, and all the important decisions have been left to the tax-writing committees of Congress.

Trump's relations with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnelland House Speaker Paul Ryan have become so strained they have no interest in looping him into policies before they have to.

Meanwhile, Trump has run out of Obama executive orders he can declare void. Major regulations, such as the EPA's Clean Power Plan, can't just be repealed. They have to go through a legal process that could take years.

Trump doesn’t seem to be aware of this. He told a cheering crowd in Alabama recently that he had ended the Clean Power Plan by executive order. "Did you see what I did to that? Boom, gone."

Nope. The EPA will soon reveal its strategy for reversing the Plan, but whatever it is, environmental groups are almost certain to appeal it in the courts. Big businesses and utilities, fearing that the courts may rule against the administration, are lobbying the EPA to come up with a replacement rather than try to eliminate the Plan altogether.

Although General John Kelly has reduced White House chaos somewhat, the firings and shakeups are unremitting.

Trump's Cabinet secretaries don't seem to have a clue. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos still wants to spend taxpayer money on for-profit schools and colleges that cheat their students. Won't happen. The EPA’s Scott Pruitt is trying to strip the agency of scientists. Another brainless scheme.

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin still has no idea how to deal with Congress. He tried to persuade Republican House members to support Trump's budget deal with the Democrats by asking them to do it "for me."

Health and Human Service Secretary Tom Price wasn't fired for his ethical breaches. If ethics were the criteria, most of the Trump administration would be gone. Price broke Trump's cardinal rule, which was never to get bad headlines for Trump.  

Top echelons of departments and agencies are still empty. Trump has said "in many cases, we don’t want to fill those jobs," which means decisions are being made by career civil servants and industry lobbyists.

By the start of September, more than a third of the leadership positions at the Federal Emergency Management Agency were still vacant. Not a good way to begin hurricane season. Puerto Rico, anyone?

As of mid-September, out of 599 key government positions that require Senate confirmation, Trump had made only 159 nominations, according to the Washington Post. Trump had yet to submit nominations for 320 positions.

Trump's political clout is waning among Republicans. He couldn't even get his pick elected to a Senate primary in Alabama, a state bulging with Trump voters.

Business leaders have deserted him over his remarks over Charlottesville. NFL owners have turned on him over his remarks about players. Tom Brady, who once called Trump "a good friend," now calls him "divisive" and "wrong." 

Don't get me wrong. Trump is still a dangerous showman and conman—tweeting condemnations of critics and ranting before friendly crowds at his never-ending campaign rallies. He continues to fuel bigotry and meanness. He has reduced America's standing in the world. His outbursts could start a nuclear war.

But when it comes to the actual work of governing America, Trump is becoming utterly and completely irrelevant.


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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 12:20pm

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Regardless of what else is happening in the world, what's happening to our society still matters.  You think that all of a sudden calling The Cat In The Hat racist to further denigrate Trump is nothing.  Not a double standard.  The Cat In The Hat / Dr Seuss books are iconic.  This is a direct attack at Trump that if it weren't serious, I'd be laughing about it.  The Onion is becoming real life.

Puerto Rico ?  What about it ?  It was a disaster waiting to happen, and it happened twice in a week.  A third world electric grid, in a place that declared bankruptcy.  What more can Trump do that he isn't doing already ?  We're going to be talking about Puerto Rico for a real long time because it was totally destroyed and we have to rebuild it.  Its going to be an outright unreimbursed $200 billion hit on the .gov   A can that has been kicked down the road for decades.

Presently, key roads and bridges are destroyed making the roads impassible for months in some cases.  Helicopter airdrops are the primary means of distribution of relief materials.  They only have 20% of the truck drivers they need to move all the supplies piling up at the recently reopened ports.  We had Navy vessels on hand immediately afterwards with 10K troops now there and more coming.  And we have to set up shop to house them safely, immediately.  Not that we're dealing with two other major hurricane hits just a couple of weeks earlier or anything.

Trump did an incredibly adult thing in waiving the Jones Act.  Something Obama refused to do when the drilling rig in the Gulf blew up, making the coastal damage twice as bad because he refused all the cleanup help from foreign countries that could have been used if he waived it.  But they didn't vote for him down there and the bigger the mess, the more they can use it in their war against fossil fuel and fight against global warming.  That is self serving and childish in the worst possible way.

You want to talk about FEMA matching funds and the bond holders who got screwed in the bankruptcy ?  PR needs to come up with matching funds to get some FEMA money but the only source is from the bond holders who already got screwed.  They want an exorbitant, yet reasonable interest rate for more loans and the governor / legislature is refusing the deal.  All this on top of the money that we are going to spend there anyway.  Then just how many helicopters, generators, spare power lines, telephone poles and line trucks and water purifiers do we have just sitting around doing nothing ?  That and waiving the Jones Act pisses off the Unions, another Obama constituency ...

Yer like all the rest that think all we need are good intentions and money to get the impossible done, yesterday.  We have a finite amount of resources in a situation that requires an infinite amount.  

Tell me how Trump could do better than he is already doing.


  

Dear God I don’t Have the time or energy to try and talk sense to someone who dosn’t want to listen. One librarian rejects Suess books and the moral fiber of our Conurty is a stake? Again you priorities are way out of wack. Your words paint you as a true idiot. Continue to keep your head in the sand that way you don’t have to watch Trump f*ck up everything he touches and pretend everything is great while taking the country down with him.
Vic


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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 10:53am

I don't think it's Trump.I don't think it was Obama or a Clinton or any of that.
I think for some reason, we have been turned against each other for stupid reasons that we don't understand.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 8:32am

 VV wrote:
Wow, Trump totally sh*ts the bed on Puerto Rico and you’re outraged about a book issue? You should be ashamed of yourself. You... like Trump clearly don’t have your priorities straight.
  
Regardless of what else is happening in the world, what's happening to our society still matters.  You think that all of a sudden calling The Cat In The Hat racist to further denigrate Trump is nothing.  Not a double standard.  The Cat In The Hat / Dr Seuss books are iconic.  This is a direct attack at Trump that if it weren't serious, I'd be laughing about it.  The Onion is becoming real life.

Puerto Rico ?  What about it ?  It was a disaster waiting to happen, and it happened twice in a week.  A third world electric grid, in a place that declared bankruptcy.  What more can Trump do that he isn't doing already ?  We're going to be talking about Puerto Rico for a real long time because it was totally destroyed and we have to rebuild it.  Its going to be an outright unreimbursed $200 billion hit on the .gov   A can that has been kicked down the road for decades.

Presently, key roads and bridges are destroyed making the roads impassible for months in some cases.  Helicopter airdrops are the primary means of distribution of relief materials.  They only have 20% of the truck drivers they need to move all the supplies piling up at the recently reopened ports.  We had Navy vessels on hand immediately afterwards with 10K troops now there and more coming.  And we have to set up shop to house them safely, immediately.  Not that we're dealing with two other major hurricane hits just a couple of weeks earlier or anything.

Trump did an incredibly adult thing in waiving the Jones Act.  Something Obama refused to do when the drilling rig in the Gulf blew up, making the coastal damage twice as bad because he refused all the cleanup help from foreign countries that could have been used if he waived it.  But they didn't vote for him down there and the bigger the mess, the more they can use it in their war against fossil fuel and fight against global warming.  That is self serving and childish in the worst possible way.

You want to talk about FEMA matching funds and the bond holders who got screwed in the bankruptcy ?  PR needs to come up with matching funds to get some FEMA money but the only source is from the bond holders who already got screwed.  They want an exorbitant, yet reasonable interest rate for more loans and the governor / legislature is refusing the deal.  All this on top of the money that we are going to spend there anyway.  Then just how many helicopters, generators, spare power lines, telephone poles and line trucks and water purifiers do we have just sitting around doing nothing ?  That and waiving the Jones Act pisses off the Unions, another Obama constituency ...

Yer like all the rest that think all we need are good intentions and money to get the impossible done, yesterday.  We have a finite amount of resources in a situation that requires an infinite amount.  

Tell me how Trump could do better than he is already doing.



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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 7:51am



He's going to get us all killed.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 7:23am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
I kinda thought the simple fact that he associated with Howard Stern was damning enough.

Then say so. Making shit up makes it easier to dismiss criticism as fake news.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 7:12am

Trump’s Justice Dept.: Companies Should Be Able to Fire Employees for Being Gay
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 7:11am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:
You made me listen to Howard Stern!

And, no, he didn't say he groped Melania in public. In fact he claimed he was "very well-behaved in public." This kind of shoddy journalism is how media squanders its credibility—pump up some trivial bit of fluff into a scandal and lie about it in the headline. If you want to get outraged at Trump I can list you a hundred legitimate reasons. This isn't one of them.

 
I kinda thought the simple fact that he associated with Howard Stern was damning enough.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 7:09am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
You made me listen to Howard Stern!

And, no, he didn't say he groped Melania in public. In fact he claimed he was "very well-behaved in public." This kind of shoddy journalism is how media squanders its credibility—pump up some trivial bit of fluff into a scandal and lie about it in the headline. If you want to get outraged at Trump I can list you a hundred legitimate reasons. This isn't one of them.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 7:08am


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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 7:04am

The Primary Text of Trumpism
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 7:04am

The Primary Text of Trumpism
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 6:59am

 VV wrote:
Wow, Trump totally sh*ts the bed on Puerto Rico and you’re outraged about a book issue? You should be ashamed of yourself. You... like Trump clearly don’t have your priorities straight.
 
But...this is a librarian! In Washington DC!

Clearly she represents every opponent of Donald of Orange and the zeitgeist of the culture. The hypocrisy is laid bare. No criticism is valid after this revelation.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 6:53am

TRUMP SAYS HE GROPED MELANIA IN PUBLIC, IVANKA LOOKS DOWN ON HIM, IN NEWLY RELEASED RECORDINGS
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 6:49am

 kurtster wrote:
Now all you lefties can go take a flying leap at yer selves.  

Dr Seuss is Racist all of a sudden ?  Can't take you people seriously anymore.

Dr. Seuss ok when Michelle Obama read it to children but now has racist undertones when our First Lady donates books? Unreal," one user wrote, while another posted: "Amazing... the same books Michelle Obama read to children, are now racist books because Trump is President."

 

Dr. Seuss ok when Michelle Obama read it to children but now has racist undertones when our First Lady donates books? Unreal. pic.twitter.com/CKDjoShuME

View image on Twitter

Here's D.C. librarian who rejected Melania's Dr. Seuss book donation "steeped in racist propaganda" as Cat in Hat.





 
Wow, Trump totally sh*ts the bed on Puerto Rico and you’re outraged about a book issue? You should be ashamed of yourself. You... like Trump clearly don’t have your priorities straight.

I really wish we had an adult in the White House. I‘m beyond disgusted by the lack of any leadership coming from the White House since day one. I think he and the kid that they let mow the White House lawn should switch jobs.


 
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 6:38am


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