VV wrote:
Historically, it seems that VPs have been pretty much left out of a lot of the loop, but that changed with Vice-President Cheney.  History isn't what it used to be, especially now.  Anyhow, until (or unless) Flynn actually does testify to these things he's "prepared" to testify to, I'll reserve any other speculation.

 islander wrote: 
One question I have is how much Pence knew about this. He‘s been flying under the radar for a number of weeks now. I haven’t seen him in the news or mentioned in any articles in a while. 

 VV wrote: 
You forgot his go to defense that has a 100% success rate (so far) - "Did not". 

 aflanigan wrote: 
Boom!

I wonder if Trump meant to say that his presidency would be over by the end of the year rather than the investigation?

So sad for all the little Trumpkins... 

Christmas does come early sometimes.

The noose is tightening.

Flynn to testify Trump 'directed him to make contact with the Russians': report

 Steely_D wrote: 
That is the charges, I want to see what they have on him that they are not charging him with.

Something along the lines of "in exchange for testimony about the X,Y and Z acts against the integrity of our elections and sovereignty of our nation, we will only charge you with these two little fibs to the FBI, We reserve the right to at some future date to bring the hammer down if you become an intransigent asshat." 

 islander wrote: 
it's all pre-ordained

for it is written on whatever it is that they write it on up there

and watch out for the yellow snow

or so zappa says

and i'll take his word on it

because if it comes down to him or the political stench

i'm going with frank

and you can quote me on that

or not

 islander wrote: 
Plea doc at the bottom

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Two instances of lying to the FBI. I wonder what he gave up to limit the charges to just that?  I'd really like to see how one of the plea deals is written - it almost seems like it would be problematic to write it down, but I'm sure they have to detail it. 

Michael Flynn Expected to Plead Guilty to Lying to the FBI

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
This is an excellent reminder of why the GOP is dead. All we see now are the various factions, each with their own "must haves" clinging together bound by their Hillary hate.

 VV wrote: 
VV wrote: 
One must appreciate your consistency.

Lower crime.Borders good.Vets and military respected.Creeps suppressed.

Yep-all wrong here.Let's get back to emphasizing the "stuff" that our wonderful country was subjected to,after my failed 2008 vote that I cast for the Demon who hated America and anything/everything/all things that are good and decent.

 VV wrote: 
His mouth is bigger than his whole head.  Maybe even his existence completely.

 Steely_D wrote: 
No truer words have ever been written... we definitely are the losers.

 kurtster wrote: 
An epiphany should not be needed at this point. Your common sense should be telling you that he is the worst POTUS to ever hold office and he doesn’t posess the intellect or maturity to ever be successful in office.

Even a blind man can see that.

Trump is certainly an authoritarian, but he is more of a tinhorn dictator, a tiny, negligible man who, rather than inflating himself with the nation’s grandeur, has managed to deflate the nation with his own insipidness. Thanks to him, America is now a banana republic. It is no longer a country of soaring ideas and idealism, a beacon to the world, an example of freedom at home and a protector of freedom abroad, an anchor of sanity in a world often bouncing on the waves of madness.