Even if Trump doesn't turn out to be their "cup-of-tea", Putin can sit back and grin at all the havok and indirect collateral damage he has inflicted on American institutions. He probably had no idea just how disruptful/impactful Russia's influence would be when he hatched his plans.
it could be worse
we could be under north korean mind control instead
Even if Trump doesn't turn out to be their "cup-of-tea", Putin can sit back and grin at all the havok and indirect collateral damage he has inflicted on American institutions. He probably had no idea just how disruptful/impactful Russia's influence would be when he hatched his plans.
Exactly, the Kremlin must be toasting vodka today.
Even if Trump doesn't turn out to be their "cup-of-tea", Putin can sit back and grin at all the havok and indirect collateral damage he has inflicted on American institutions. He probably had no idea just how disruptful/impactful Russia's influence would be when he hatched his plans.
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) delivered a harsh rebuke against fellow Republicans who agreed to release a memo by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes against the wishes of the U.S. intelligence community.
Nunes on Friday released the memo after President Donald Trump declassified it. The memo alleges that officials at the FBI and Department of Justice displayed active bias against the Trump campaign in the early stages of the Russia investigation, which was later taken over by special counsel Robert Mueller.
In a statement shortly before the memo’s release, McCain didn’t pull any punches.
“In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy,” McCain said. “Russia employed the same tactics it has used to influence elections around the world, from France and Germany to Ukraine, Montenegro and beyond.”
McCain said Russia’s interference has, at best, sown political discord and succeeded in “dividing us from each other.” Attacking the intelligence community is not how to fix the discord, he said.
Ahead of its impending releases, the FBI took the extraordinary step of issuing a public statement to express its “grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”
“The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests â no party’s, no President’s, only Putin’s,” McCain added. “The American people deserve to know all the facts surrounding Russia’s ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation must proceed unimpeded. Our nation’s elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the lens of politics and manufacturing political sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him.”
Exactly, the Kremlin must be toasting vodka today.
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) delivered a harsh rebuke against fellow Republicans who agreed to release a memo by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes against the wishes of the U.S. intelligence community.
Nunes on Friday released the memo after President Donald Trump declassified it. The memo alleges that officials at the FBI and Department of Justice displayed active bias against the Trump campaign in the early stages of the Russia investigation, which was later taken over by special counsel Robert Mueller.
In a statement shortly before the memo’s release, McCain didn’t pull any punches.
“In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy,” McCain said. “Russia employed the same tactics it has used to influence elections around the world, from France and Germany to Ukraine, Montenegro and beyond.”
McCain said Russia’s interference has, at best, sown political discord and succeeded in “dividing us from each other.” Attacking the intelligence community is not how to fix the discord, he said.
Ahead of its impending releases, the FBI took the extraordinary step of issuing a public statement to express its “grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”
“The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests â no party’s, no President’s, only Putin’s,” McCain added. “The American people deserve to know all the facts surrounding Russia’s ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation must proceed unimpeded. Our nation’s elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the lens of politics and manufacturing political sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him.”
Democrats have pushed back. Representative Adam B. Schiff, the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, who has seen the underlying classified materials on which the memo is based, has said the memo contains both inaccurate assertions and material omissions to misleadingly impugn law enforcement officials. Other people familiar with it say, for example, that Mr. Steele’s information was only one thread in a tapestry of evidence from various sources that the memo ignored, exaggerating its relative importance.
Democrats on the committee produced their own classified memo that they said pointed out and explained inaccuracies in the Republican memo and filled in the missing context. But on Monday, the committee voted along party lines to make the Republican memo public and rejected a request to simultaneously make public the Democrats’ rebuttal.
Asked on Tuesday about why it would not be more appropriate to make both memos public at the same time, Mr. Ryan was evasive. He said the Democratic memo first had to go through a process in which House members outside the Intelligence Committee could read it. Pressed on why the Republican memo should not be held back until that process was done, he said a reporter had asked enough questions.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Jan 31, 2018 - 10:33am
Steely_D wrote:
I have to admit that I see both of them with a strong prejudice, so I can't trust them. The news should be objective, without a point to prove. I'm not sure who that is now. I can't trust FOX, CNN, MSNBC, Post, and a few others.
Bring back Uncle Walter and Huntley/Brinkley!
Depends on what one considers to be, or defines as being, "news." Much of what is presented on CNN — at least at night — is opinion/commentary. A problem is that commentary on these talk shows sometimes is intermingled with the presentation of news. There might be a news item, followed immediately by commentary on what that news might foretell, etc. That happens regularly on these cable news channels, which I am labeling as "talk shows." Nonetheless, a talk show is tantamount to reading the op-ed pages in a newspaper, and that is how it should be viewed. One would not —should not — complain that an editorial or column presented on an op-ed page is not objective.
I have to admit that I see both of them with a strong prejudice, so I can't trust them. The news should be objective, without a point to prove. I'm not sure who that is now. I can't trust FOX, CNN, MSNBC, Post, and a few others.
Bring back Uncle Walter and Huntley/Brinkley!
Reuters is still pretty solid. NPR too if you understand their presentation style.
I have to admit that I see both of them with a strong prejudice, so I can't trust them. The news should be objective, without a point to prove. I'm not sure who that is now. I can't trust FOX, CNN, MSNBC, Post, and a few others.
Bring back Uncle Walter and Huntley/Brinkley!
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I'm with you, man. Just saw a great documentary on Uncle Walter, just the facts, maam.
Except it's the Post, so it won't convince anyone that's heard the Fake News rhetoric. I have a FOX-fan brother in law who won't even agree to go with his wife to the movie about the Post because he's convinced they're fake.
It's what we've said from the beginning: the first step of a tyrant is to declare his critics to be liars. Of course, that means that anyone who gives a critical response, finding concern or fault, by definition must be a liar.
...or an agent provocateur or minion of the Deep State.
Except it's the Post, so it won't convince anyone that's heard the Fake News rhetoric. I have a FOX-fan brother in law who won't even agree to go with his wife to the movie about the Post because he's convinced they're fake.
It's what we've said from the beginning: the first step of a tyrant is to declare his critics to be liars. Of course, that means that anyone who gives a critical response, finding concern or fault, by definition must be a liar.
Which is precisely why I gravitate to The Post and CNN for news about Donnie Johnnie in particular. He rails about them more than any other sources, so they must be reporting really close to the bone. The louder he screams about the being "fake news", the more we should be inclined to believe them.
