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Lazy8

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Mar 27, 2019 - 3:30pm |
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westslope wrote:
Nope. I go days and weeks without taking a drink (alcohol).
You?
Child of an alcoholic, keep myself on a tight leash. Been sick for a week and I never drink when sick, so been a while. I have half a growler of Russian Imperial Stout just sitting in the fridge waiting for me to feel better. But you seemed confused about what American voters should do about trade wars that keep our exports (namely whiskey) from flowing overseas. It's simple economics: less export means more domestic supply, and cheaper booze. If you're stuck with the results of an election for four years that seems as rational an approach as any. But explaining it ruins the joke, so just replace all this verbiage with a simple whoosh and pour yourself some alternative rotgut from somewhere else in North America. Our neighbors deserve your patronage no less than we.
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haresfur

Location: The Golden Triangle Gender:  
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Mar 27, 2019 - 3:01pm |
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westslope wrote: Lazy8 wrote:westslope wrote:Tariff wars taking a hit on U.S. distillers
We stopped drinking Kentucky bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey early last year. In the interim, we have discovered some lovely Canadian Rye Whiskies and may never go back to sour mash/bourbon. American voters know what to do. Or maybe they don't. Drink heavily? Nope. I go days and weeks without taking a drink (alcohol). You? I have a drinking problem - when I'm stressed the last thing I want is a drink. On the bright side, I have enough of a bourbon and American rye stockpile to get me through to 2024.
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oldviolin

Location: esse quam videri Gender:  
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Mar 27, 2019 - 2:46pm |
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westslope wrote: Lazy8 wrote:westslope wrote:Tariff wars taking a hit on U.S. distillers
We stopped drinking Kentucky bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey early last year. In the interim, we have discovered some lovely Canadian Rye Whiskies and may never go back to sour mash/bourbon. American voters know what to do. Or maybe they don't. Drink heavily? Nope. I go days and weeks without taking a drink (alcohol). You? I think that was a rhetorical answer/question thing...in any event a rhetorical suggestion...something like that. I doubt Lazy8 was trying to get an inside scoop. Ambiguity in rhetoric. Whoda thunkit...?
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westslope

Location: BC sage brush steppe 
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Mar 27, 2019 - 1:54pm |
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Lazy8 wrote:westslope wrote:Tariff wars taking a hit on U.S. distillers
We stopped drinking Kentucky bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey early last year. In the interim, we have discovered some lovely Canadian Rye Whiskies and may never go back to sour mash/bourbon. American voters know what to do. Or maybe they don't. Drink heavily? Nope. I go days and weeks without taking a drink (alcohol). You?
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Lazy8

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:  
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Mar 27, 2019 - 1:51pm |
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westslope wrote:
Tariff wars taking a hit on U.S. distillers
We stopped drinking Kentucky bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey early last year. In the interim, we have discovered some lovely Canadian Rye Whiskies and may never go back to sour mash/bourbon. American voters know what to do. Or maybe they don't.
Drink heavily?
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black321

Location: An earth without maps Gender:  
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Mar 27, 2019 - 12:41pm |
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steeler wrote: black321 wrote:"It's interesting how wildly people's opinion about Trump differ. AFAICT kurster sees Trump as the honest truth-teller and iconoclast. I see Trump as a completely corrupt man, without integrity or the consistent ability to perceive truth. But I think people like kurtster and people like myself see American politics as broken almost beyond repair right now. Trump is sort of a Rorschach test about America and its politics." As is usual, my guess is the truth lies somewhere in between. I see Trump as pretty bad, but so far not the worst thing to hit the country. WMD? As I said earlier today in Breaking News, I think there is a race-to-the bottom mentality taking hold when we think about Trump, politicians in general, and the state of our democratic institutions, including government. I think what I would label a lowest-common-denominator approach and acceptance is an insidious cancer. Trump, to me, is the proverbial gasoline poured on a fire. Yes, there already was distrust within the population for many of our democratic institutions, government itself being foremost. Throughout his candidacy and his presidency, Trump has continually stoked those fires. Those in the media are enemies of the people. Those who were at or near the top of the FBI were traitors. Republicans who disagreed with him were "establishment" politicians feeding off the government trough. The existence of a "deep state" operating within the federal government at the expense of the American people was essentially acknowledged by the President. There is much, much more I could cite, but you get the idea. So what would a post-Trump presidency look like? Are his tactics destined to become the new normal? What bothers me is this seeming acceptance that the tactics employed by Trump just accelerated the pace of us getting to where we were destined to reach all along â the bottom. What is ironic is his supporters believe that he is restoring American greatness and shoring up a sagging democracy. The bedrock institutions of our democracy have been severely damaged. I believe there will be lasting damage from his presidency and I fear that. you are hitting on a lot delicate (in terms of properly defining) points that seem to elude his supporters, as well as those who attempt to oppose him with more rhetoric, instead of reasoned arguments of why he is bad for the country. Accordingly, I don't think trump is the problem, as much as those who both support and oppose him.
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steeler

Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth 
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Mar 27, 2019 - 12:16pm |
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black321 wrote:
"It's interesting how wildly people's opinion about Trump differ. AFAICT kurster sees Trump as the honest truth-teller and iconoclast. I see Trump as a completely corrupt man, without integrity or the consistent ability to perceive truth. But I think people like kurtster and people like myself see American politics as broken almost beyond repair right now. Trump is sort of a Rorschach test about America and its politics." As is usual, my guess is the truth lies somewhere in between. I see Trump as pretty bad, but so far not the worst thing to hit the country. WMD?
As I said earlier today in Breaking News, I think there is a race-to-the bottom mentality taking hold when we think about Trump, politicians in general, and the state of our democratic institutions, including government. I think what I would label a lowest-common-denominator approach and acceptance is an insidious cancer. Trump, to me, is the proverbial gasoline poured on a fire. Yes, there already was distrust within the population for many of our democratic institutions, government itself being foremost. Throughout his candidacy and his presidency, Trump has continually stoked those fires. Those in the media are enemies of the people. Those who were at or near the top of the FBI were traitors. Republicans who disagreed with him were "establishment" politicians feeding off the government trough. The existence of a "deep state" operating within the federal government at the expense of the American people was essentially acknowledged by the President. There is much, much more I could cite, but you get the idea. So what would a post-Trump presidency look like? Are his tactics destined to become the new normal? What bothers me is this seeming acceptance that the tactics employed by Trump just accelerated the pace of us getting to where we were destined to reach all along â the bottom. What is ironic is his supporters believe that he is restoring American greatness and shoring up a sagging democracy. The bedrock institutions of our democracy have been severely damaged. I believe there will be lasting damage from his presidency and I fear that.
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westslope

Location: BC sage brush steppe 
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Mar 27, 2019 - 11:59am |
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Tariff wars taking a hit on U.S. distillers
We stopped drinking Kentucky bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey early last year. In the interim, we have discovered some lovely Canadian Rye Whiskies and may never go back to sour mash/bourbon. American voters know what to do. Or maybe they don't.
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black321

Location: An earth without maps Gender:  
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Mar 27, 2019 - 10:16am |
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"It's interesting how wildly people's opinion about Trump differ. AFAICT kurster sees Trump as the honest truth-teller and iconoclast. I see Trump as a completely corrupt man, without integrity or the consistent ability to perceive truth. But I think people like kurtster and people like myself see American politics as broken almost beyond repair right now. Trump is sort of a Rorschach test about America and its politics." As is usual, my guess is the truth lies somewhere in between. I see Trump as pretty bad, but so far not the worst thing to hit the country. WMD?
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pigtail

Location: Southern California Gender:  
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Mar 27, 2019 - 10:03am |
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westslope wrote: kcar wrote:
It's interesting how wildly people's opinion about Trump differ. AFAICT kurster sees Trump as the honest truth-teller and iconoclast. I see Trump as a completely corrupt man, without integrity or the consistent ability to perceive truth. But I think people like kurtster and people like myself see American politics as broken almost beyond repair right now. Trump is sort of a Rorschach test about America and its politics.
I sympathize a lot with kurster and other's frustrations and a few of their policy goals. Unfortunately, like so many other situations, they have chosen the wrong political tool.
Otherwise, I agree 100% with you kcar and simply view Trump as the worst thing that has happened to the USA over the course of my life-time. Then on the other hand, I read a gazillion structuralists and others of a leftish view when I was younger . They all forecast the eventual decline of the American empire and so am not entirely surprised that the US is in accelerated decline. There is only one way to bring down a power like the USA and that is from the inside.
I wonder sometimes kcar if the USA is suffering from its early mover advantage in democracy back in the 18th century. There is an in-built paternalism and the overall structure promotes constant political conflict. Combining the head of state and the head of government in the same person is a very risky strategy.
Ultimately America's problems are much bigger than just Trump. For one example, the War on Terror should alarm all thoughtful people who believe strongly in democracy.
Given the way most Americans use the term Anti-Semitism (sic), I fully expect more Americans to die. Americans have to stop playing the racist ethnic cleanser card. Or simply expect violent, expensive blow back. America will never stop playing the racist ethnic cleanser card. We were founded on it and you can bet the powers in control love our racism as much as we love our 2nd amendment. It's not fixable, at least not in our lifetime. We need a revolution of the worst kind. I do think the millenials were on the right track after the Florida shooting, sadly they alienated our generation instead of seeing how long we've been trying to fight the same fight, that they felt was theirs. And so the cycle will continue for now.
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westslope

Location: BC sage brush steppe 
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Mar 27, 2019 - 8:23am |
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kcar wrote:
It's interesting how wildly people's opinion about Trump differ. AFAICT kurster sees Trump as the honest truth-teller and iconoclast. I see Trump as a completely corrupt man, without integrity or the consistent ability to perceive truth. But I think people like kurtster and people like myself see American politics as broken almost beyond repair right now. Trump is sort of a Rorschach test about America and its politics.
I sympathize a lot with kurster and other's frustrations and a few of their policy goals. Unfortunately, like so many other situations, they have chosen the wrong political tool.
Otherwise, I agree 100% with you kcar and simply view Trump as the worst thing that has happened to the USA over the course of my life-time. Then on the other hand, I read a gazillion structuralists and others of a leftish view when I was younger . They all forecast the eventual decline of the American empire and so am not entirely surprised that the US is in accelerated decline. There is only one way to bring down a power like the USA and that is from the inside.
I wonder sometimes kcar if the USA is suffering from its early mover advantage in democracy back in the 18th century. There is an in-built paternalism and the overall structure promotes constant political conflict. Combining the head of state and the head of government in the same person is a very risky strategy.
Ultimately America's problems are much bigger than just Trump. For one example, the War on Terror should alarm all thoughtful people who believe strongly in democracy.
Given the way most Americans use the term Anti-Semitism (sic), I fully expect more Americans to die. Americans have to stop playing the racist ethnic cleanser card. Or simply expect violent, expensive blow back.
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Mar 27, 2019 - 7:28am |
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Donnie has said he has no problem with releasing The Report. So why is Mitch blocking it?
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kcar


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Mar 26, 2019 - 7:54pm |
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westslope wrote:The Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election
Trump feels that he is exonerated. The report apparently concludes that there was no "collusion".
I do not understand how Trump, his supporters and other Republicans can view this as a victory. Did not the investigation uncover all kinds of criminal activity on the part of close Trump collaborators?
Does not Rudy Gugiliani when commenting on the Mueller report, for example, make the president and the Republican Party look terrible every time he opens his mouth?
I fail to see any upside in all of this for Team Trump. What am I missing?
"I fail to see any upside in all of this for Team Trump. What am I missing?" Oh, there's upside. At least at this point. That may change if/when Barr releases Mueller's full report. As long as they have voters believing people like Hannity and Fox pundits who claim the Mueller investigation was all a Democrat power-grab (instead of a serious investigation into credible reports that Trump and/or his campaign broke campaign laws), Trump is not going to be affected by the Mueller investigation. I'll make a bet that Trump's support among his base did not decline significantly during the investigation because his base believed Trump's claim that it was all a witch hunt—even though they had no little or evidence at the time to support that collective belief. Trump voters likely don't care that Manafort, Gates, Flynn, etc. were convicted of crimes. They likely believe that the whole system is rotten, that politicians do stuff like this all the time that Trump is the independent straight shooter who will drain the swamp and that the Dems (and other corrupt forces) are trying to stop Trump from cleaning house. The upside is that Trump, the GOP and Fox can claim that Trump is an honest, unjustly accused man now totally exonerated by Mueller's investigation. That take is going to be used to whip up Trump's base even more. As I've said before, my strong hunch is that Mueller's report will say, directly or indirectly, that there was evidence of criminal cooperation between Trump's campaign and Russians but not enough evidence to bring new indictments. I'm guessing that Mueller couldn't get sufficient incriminating info from Trump, Jr. , Roger Stone et aI to forge criminal cases against specific individuals. I could be totally wrong in that hunch. But it strikes me that even if the meeting between Natalia Veselnitskaya (the Russian lawyer with strong ties to the Kremlin) and Trump, Jr was an unproductive bust, it's not likely that either side would have abandoned attempts to cooperate with each other at that point. Putin wanted Trump to win and wanted to sow doubt about the validity of the presidential election. Trump and his family were eager to have more business dealings in Russia, closer connections with Putin and access to embarrassing info about HRC (indicated by Trump Jr's email stating "I love it" ) . It's interesting how wildly people's opinion about Trump differ. AFAICT kurster sees Trump as the honest truth-teller and iconoclast. I see Trump as a completely corrupt man, without integrity or the consistent ability to perceive truth. But I think people like kurtster and people like myself see American politics as broken almost beyond repair right now. Trump is sort of a Rorschach test about America and its politics.
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westslope

Location: BC sage brush steppe 
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Mar 26, 2019 - 6:58pm |
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haresfur wrote: westslope wrote:The Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election
Trump feels that he is exonerated. The report apparently concludes that there was no "collusion".
I do not understand how Trump, his supporters and other Republicans can view this as a victory. Did not the investigation uncover all kinds of criminal activity on the part of close Trump collaborators?
Does not Rudy Gugiliani when commenting on the Mueller report, for example, make the president and the Republican Party look terrible every time he opens his mouth?
I fail to see any upside in all of this for Team Trump. What am I missing?
You are missing the fact that he can keep on doing what he is doing, for now. That is a victory for him. You might be right. The yield curve has inverted so if he gets too tough on trade with China Trump increases the probability of the US economy going into a recession. That would be a very negative for Team Trump and other Republicans in the next set of elections. In the meantime, Trump and associates continue to face a large number of investigations by politicians and state attorneys.
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R_P

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Mar 26, 2019 - 4:38pm |
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haresfur wrote:
westslope wrote:The Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election
Trump feels that he is exonerated. The report apparently concludes that there was no "collusion".
I do not understand how Trump, his supporters and other Republicans can view this as a victory. Did not the investigation uncover all kinds of criminal activity on the part of close Trump collaborators?
Does not Rudy Gugiliani when commenting on the Mueller report, for example, make the president and the Republican Party look terrible every time he opens his mouth?
I fail to see any upside in all of this for Team Trump. What am I missing?
You are missing the fact that he can keep on doing what he is doing, for now. That is a victory for him.
And for his blinkered supporters...
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haresfur

Location: The Golden Triangle Gender:  
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Mar 26, 2019 - 4:25pm |
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R_P wrote: westslope wrote: R_P wrote:It still takes the same place as Canada and Australia w.r.t. the UK and the Queen as head of state...
OK. Try this. When was the last time New Zealand went running to mother England for a bail-out? Hugs and good wishes do not count. No idea. When was the last time Canada or Australia did that? Bail-out or political interference depends on your perspective
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haresfur

Location: The Golden Triangle Gender:  
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Mar 26, 2019 - 4:19pm |
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westslope wrote:The Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election
Trump feels that he is exonerated. The report apparently concludes that there was no "collusion".
I do not understand how Trump, his supporters and other Republicans can view this as a victory. Did not the investigation uncover all kinds of criminal activity on the part of close Trump collaborators?
Does not Rudy Gugiliani when commenting on the Mueller report, for example, make the president and the Republican Party look terrible every time he opens his mouth?
I fail to see any upside in all of this for Team Trump. What am I missing?
You are missing the fact that he can keep on doing what he is doing, for now. That is a victory for him.
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westslope

Location: BC sage brush steppe 
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Mar 26, 2019 - 3:50pm |
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The Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election
Trump feels that he is exonerated. The report apparently concludes that there was no "collusion".
I do not understand how Trump, his supporters and other Republicans can view this as a victory. Did not the investigation uncover all kinds of criminal activity on the part of close Trump collaborators?
Does not Rudy Gugiliani when commenting on the Mueller report, for example, make the president and the Republican Party look terrible every time he opens his mouth?
I fail to see any upside in all of this for Team Trump. What am I missing?
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westslope

Location: BC sage brush steppe 
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Mar 26, 2019 - 3:41pm |
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R_P wrote: westslope wrote: R_P wrote:It still takes the same place as Canada and Australia w.r.t. the UK and the Queen as head of state...
OK. Try this. When was the last time New Zealand went running to mother England for a bail-out? Hugs and good wishes do not count. No idea. When was the last time Canada or Australia did that? I do not know exactly. Prior to WW I perhaps? Certainly prior to WW II as WW II did in the Brits.
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R_P

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Mar 26, 2019 - 3:37pm |
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westslope wrote:
R_P wrote:It still takes the same place as Canada and Australia w.r.t. the UK and the Queen as head of state...
OK. Try this. When was the last time New Zealand went running to mother England for a bail-out? Hugs and good wishes do not count.
No idea. When was the last time Canada or Australia did that?
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