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Posted: Jun 27, 2018 - 9:41am

 steeler wrote:

The debt — and what to do about it — is a hard issue to wrap one's head around.  Many variables in play, all of which bring many other policy issues into the debate.  For example, the tax cuts passed in December add to the deficit, but supporters of those tax cuts contend that, in the long run, they will reduce the deficit because the tax cuts will spur the economy.  Another example is the current immigration debate.  Trump and supporters contend that reducing illegal immigration will have a positive impact on the economy, which, in turn, would help reduce the deficit.

Contrary to the assertions of many, virtually no one is in favor of Big Government for the sake of Big Government.  No one wants the U.S. to be running a huge deficit.  The debates are about what funding should be cut and what funding should be maintained or even increased. The Trump administration is advocating to rebuild the military.  There is a cost to that.  Similarly, Trump advocates building The Wall.  Again, a cost to that.             

 
Don't worry... we're in good (small) hands.
 
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Posted: Jun 27, 2018 - 9:36am

 black321 wrote:

well i applaud you if you are doing more to protest our debt...but it doesnt seem to be a very big issue for most.  Guess it's not as hot a topic as immigrants, trade wars and NK.  Those have differing levels of import, but i think as a nation overall, none is as great as the growing debt.  Forget about all the rest if we dont do something about it.  

 
The debt — and what to do about it — is a hard issue to wrap one's head around.  Many variables in play, all of which bring many other policy issues into the debate.  For example, the tax cuts passed in December add to the deficit, but supporters of those tax cuts contend that, in the long run, they will reduce the deficit because the tax cuts will spur the economy.  Another example is the current immigration debate.  Trump and supporters contend that reducing illegal immigration will have a positive impact on the economy, which, in turn, would help reduce the deficit.

Contrary to the assertions of many, virtually no one is in favor of Big Government for the sake of Big Government.  No one wants the U.S. to be running a huge deficit.  The debates are about what funding should be cut and what funding should be maintained or even increased. The Trump administration is advocating to rebuild the military.  There is a cost to that.  Similarly, Trump advocates building The Wall.  Again, a cost to that.             


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Posted: Jun 27, 2018 - 9:31am

 black321 wrote:

well i applaud you if you are doing more to protest our debt...but it doesnt seem to be a very big issue for most.  Guess it's not as hot a topic as immigrants, trade wars and NK.  Those have differing levels of import, but i think as a nation overall, none is as great as the growing debt.  Forget about all the rest if we dont do something about it.  

 
Well, if we are on track for bankruptcy and restructuring, then we certainly have the guy with the right(hah) experience....
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Posted: Jun 27, 2018 - 9:15am

 meower wrote:

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speak for yourself



 
well i applaud you if you are doing more to protest our debt...but it doesnt seem to be a very big issue for most.  Guess it's not as hot a topic as immigrants, trade wars and NK.  Those have differing levels of import, but i think as a nation overall, none is as great as the growing debt.  Forget about all the rest if we dont do something about it.  
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Posted: Jun 27, 2018 - 8:33am

 black321 wrote:

and thanks Obama, and bush...and all the congressmen/women who continue to pass irresponsible budgets...and we the people who's biggest protest is to complain on music boards...

 
:/

speak for yourself


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Posted: Jun 27, 2018 - 6:59am

 black321 wrote:

and thanks Obama, and bush...and all the congressmen/women who continue to pass irresponsible budgets...and we the people who's biggest protest is to complain on music boards...

 





Indeed, this is the first time I have heard of this deficit deal. Is this a new thing? Damn Trump, he even unbalanced our budget.


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Posted: Jun 27, 2018 - 6:55am

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and thanks Obama, and bush...and all the congressmen/women who continue to pass irresponsible budgets...and we the people who's biggest protest is to complain on music boards...
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Posted: Jun 27, 2018 - 6:03am

Thanks Donnie!
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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 8:33pm

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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 7:35pm


Manafort Trial Is to Go Forward, but Judge Warns Mueller to Stay Within Authority


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In a preliminary hearing last month, Judge T. S. Ellis III challenged the charges of bank fraud and tax evasion against Mr. Manafort, saying he saw no relationship between the case before him and “anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate.”

But in the 31-page opinion issued on Tuesday, the judge said that “upon further review,” it was clear to him that the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, had “followed the money paid by pro-Russian officials” to Mr. Manafort — a line of inquiry that fell squarely in his authority.


Judge Ellis continued to express misgivings about special prosecutors in general, saying that he could only hope that Mr. Mueller did not abuse the powers given to him. “Although this case will continue, those involved should be sensitive to the danger unleashed when political disagreements are transformed into partisan prosecutions,” he wrote.

He also wrote, “To provide a special counsel with a large budget and to tell him or her to find crimes allows a special counsel to pursue his or her targets without the usual time and budget constraints facing ordinary prosecutors, encouraging substantial elements of the public to conclude that the special counsel is being deployed as a political weapon.”

Still, he decided that Mr. Mueller’s team had stayed within its mandate in investigating tens of millions of dollars in payments to Mr. Manafort, even though the pattern of financial fraud laid out by prosecutors began in 2006 and the payments came from political forces in Ukraine. The special counsel’s authorization to investigate “any links” between the Trump campaign and the Russian government covered the payments to Mr. Manafort from Ukraine’s pro-Russian president, Viktor F. Yanukovych, and his political allies, he ruled.


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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 10:33am

 VV wrote:

I couldn't agree more. However; as the heat gets turned up through an ever growing list of repeated crises caused by Trump... I'm not sure how those crises don't result in more polarization, more frustration and ultimately more uncivil behavior. You can only bite your tongue for so long.
 
Even though I didn't vote for him I did start off with wanting for Trump to at least prove himslef as an adequate leader... but I'm now at the point where I need him removed ASAP before he causes any more lasting damage to the presidency and America.  

 

 
Prepare for re-election.  Unfortunately its inevitable.  {#Rolleyes}
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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 10:24am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
This distills it down pretty well:

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?

 
It isn't just the people engaged in a pissing match who get pissed on. Yeah, I want civility.
 
I wanted it before Trump. I want it now. But I want more than that: I want us to recognize each other's common humanity. I want the infantile tribalism to end.
 
And maybe half the battlefield reaches adulthood first. Fine. Don't wait for the schoolyard bully to grow up, grow up yourself. Emulating the bully's behavior doesn't remove the bully from the playground, it adds another.
 
And those simultaneous cries of "But he started it!" aren't impressing mom.
 
Edit, lest I leave the wrong impression: I'm not aiming my remarks at Scott, just riffing off the notion quoted. I know Scott to be a decent human being and generally better-behaved than the examples before us.


 
I couldn't agree more. However; as the heat gets turned up through an ever growing list of repeated crises caused by Trump... I'm not sure how those crises don't result in more polarization, more frustration and ultimately more uncivil behavior. You can only bite your tongue for so long.
 
Even though I didn't vote for him I did start off with wanting Trump to at least prove himslef as an adequate leader... but I'm now at the point where I want him removed ASAP before he causes any more lasting damage to the presidency and America.  

 


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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 10:14am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
This distills it down pretty well:

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?

 
It isn't just the people engaged in a pissing match who get pissed on. Yeah, I want civility.
 
I wanted it before Trump. I want it now. But I want more than that: I want us to recognize each other's common humanity. I want the infantile tribalism to end.
 
And maybe half the battlefield reaches adulthood first. Fine. Don't wait for the schoolyard bully to grow up, grow up yourself. Emulating the bully's behavior doesn't remove the bully from the playground, it adds another.
 
And those simultaneous cries of "But he started it!" aren't impressing mom.
 
Edit, lest I leave the wrong impression: I'm not aiming my remarks at Scott, just riffing off the notion quoted. I know Scott to be a decent human being and generally better-behaved than the examples before us.
 
I agree but rarely find the words for it. Being who I am, though, I do lean heavily on posts like this... Altho it's much more in-your-face than I typically allow, it's also better presented than the "go jump in a lake"–related string of words I am usually thinking.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 10:01am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
This distills it down pretty well:

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?

 
It isn't just the people engaged in a pissing match who get pissed on. Yeah, I want civility.
 
I wanted it before Trump. I want it now. But I want more than that: I want us to recognize each other's common humanity. I want the infantile tribalism to end.
 
And maybe half the battlefield reaches adulthood first. Fine. Don't wait for the schoolyard bully to grow up, grow up yourself. Emulating the bully's behavior doesn't remove the bully from the playground, it adds another.
 
And those simultaneous cries of "But he started it!" aren't impressing mom.
 
Edit, lest I leave the wrong impression: I'm not aiming my remarks at Scott, just riffing off the notion quoted. I know Scott to be a decent human being and generally better-behaved than the examples before us.


 
thanks for this
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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 9:43am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
This distills it down pretty well:

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?

 
It isn't just the people engaged in a pissing match who get pissed on. Yeah, I want civility.
 
I wanted it before Trump. I want it now. But I want more than that: I want us to recognize each other's common humanity. I want the infantile tribalism to end.
 
And maybe half the battlefield reaches adulthood first. Fine. Don't wait for the schoolyard bully to grow up, grow up yourself. Emulating the bully's behavior doesn't remove the bully from the playground, it adds another.
 
And those simultaneous cries of "But he started it!" aren't impressing mom.
 
Edit, lest I leave the wrong impression: I'm not aiming my remarks at Scott, just riffing off the notion quoted. I know Scott to be a decent human being and generally better-behaved than the examples before us.



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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 9:25am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

This distills it down pretty well:

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?



 
bravo. {#Clap}
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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 9:09am

 Beaker wrote:

No, my 'fake news' is not reporting that "all" liberals are cheering on the Red Hen. 

My 'fake news' is calling it these ways: 

a) shame on them - should have taken the high road
b) hey leftys are you sure this is how you want it to be when the shoe is inevitably on the other foot?  Can't have it both ways, etc.
c) hey leftys now is the time for you to take a stand against the Red Hen (and others) for going way too far (see also Maxine Waters)
d) this is an opportunity for liberal and Dem leaders to have their own Sister Souljah moment.  One might hope they don't let the opportunity slip through their fingers, but alas, the Dem party is the home of such fine upstanding leaders as Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, whose personal records speaks for themselves.

If the left doesn't speak up to rein in the over the line outrage, all they are doing is giving license to the idiots on the right to be more idiot like, and also invigorating the electorate to show up at the voting booth come the midterms.  

See also: This is why Trump won (also because many on the right are DONE trying to placate the never-ending demands of the left)
 
This distills it down pretty well:

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?


VV

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Posted: Jun 26, 2018 - 8:03am

 Beaker wrote:

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.  Alternative interpretation: you're not suitably equipped for serious discussion.

HAND 

 
Funny, but that was my initial impression of you as you clearly seem to have a bug up your ass about all Dems.

This is a learning moment for Sanders to reflect on all the damage she does to the country by shamelessly supporting all of Trump's lies. Sometimes there are negative consequences to being the mouthpiece of an inept and divisive adminstration where crisis management is part of the daily agenda. If she is denied a meal from time to time then that's a very small price for her to have to pay for her enablement. And oh by the way... that's not over the line. 


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