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Index » Internet/Computer » Streaming/Media » Alexa/Echo?Echo Plus stereo streaming
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Milhouse

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Location: London, UK
Gender: Male


Posted: Dec 8, 2021 - 3:24am

The following fix works for me. I have 2 Echo Dot 4 ("Bed Right" and "Bed Left") in the bedroom that are paired as "Bedroom".

1. In the Alexa app, add a routine:

Name: "Play the radio" (or whatever you prefer)
When: (Voice) "Play the radio" (or whatever you prefer)
Action: (Custom) "Enable Radio Paradise Skill"
From: "Bed Right"

2. Now ask "Alexa, play the radio"

3. Alexa responds "OK, here's Radio Paradise" from the "Bed Right" speaker, and Radio Paradise should now play from the "Bed Right" speaker only.

You can eliminate the routine entirely by saying "Enable Radio Paradise Skill on Bed Right" each time but frankly that's rather tedious!

It's a huge shame RP doesn't work with paired devices but at least I can now listen to RP again without unpairing the 2 Dots, or having to listen to Spotify RP playlists (which just aren't there same as listening "live").


Chumbah_Wumbah

Location: UK


Posted: Oct 7, 2021 - 1:15am

 jarro wrote:


You may have been using a  workaround,  that they may have patched.   Not sure,  just know officially they don't allow it  for non 'Music'  skills.
https://old.reddit.com/r/alexa...






OK, so I've had to add the RP Main stream to my MyMedia For Alexa via my Raspberry Pi, and so now "Alexa, play Radio Paradise" has to be "Alexa, ask My Media to play my Radio Paradise internet stream" rendering the RP skill moot for stereo playback.
Sheesh, why does Amazon have to make everything such a ball-ache for such a simple task as playing an audio internet stream to a paired set of their own speakers?
jarro

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Location: #guad
Gender: Male


Posted: Oct 6, 2021 - 12:16pm

 Chumbah_Wumbah wrote:



Which sadly is not available in the UK (RP on TuneIn).
Oddly the Boom Radio app does support speaker groups (well I say supports. It just plays out of the box through paired echos). Maybe have a word with them and piggy back on? ;-)

So, may I ask what's changed? We used to be able to get RP on paired echos.


You may have been using a  workaround,  that they may have patched.   Not sure,  just know officially they don't allow it  for non 'Music'  skills.
https://old.reddit.com/r/alexa...



Chumbah_Wumbah

Location: UK


Posted: Oct 6, 2021 - 5:10am

 jarro wrote:

Nothing new here unfortunately.   The skill doesn't support speaker groups.    The issue we ran into is since echo devices don't support gapless playback it was better to rely on TuneIn for that feature.    




Which sadly is not available in the UK (RP on TuneIn).
Oddly the Boom Radio app does support speaker groups (well I say supports. It just plays out of the box through paired echos). Maybe have a word with them and piggy back on? ;-)

So, may I ask what's changed? We used to be able to get RP on paired echos.
jarro

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Location: #guad
Gender: Male


Posted: Oct 6, 2021 - 3:37am

 Chumbah_Wumbah wrote:



Well, it appears the dreaded Alexa paired speakers issue has raised it's head again, and is not working. Oddly, using the skill to play RP only permits only one unit to be selected, and not a paired set.
Any news please?

Nothing new here unfortunately.   The skill doesn't support speaker groups.    The issue we ran into is since echo devices don't support gapless playback it was better to rely on TuneIn for that feature.    

Chumbah_Wumbah

Location: UK


Posted: Oct 6, 2021 - 1:59am

 jarro wrote:

Just glad to hear it's improving.

 

 





Well, it appears the dreaded Alexa paired speakers issue has raised it's head again, and is not working. Oddly, using the skill to play RP only permits only one unit to be selected, and not a paired set.
Any news please?
jarro

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 12:12pm

Just glad to hear it's improving.

 drtracey wrote:


 Chumbah_Wumbah wrote:
jarro, many thanks, normal service, in stereo, now appears to have been restored together with voice control.
You have my vote for employee of the month, a 10% pay rise, and use of the corporate jet for your next vacation.


 jarro wrote:
Should be improved now,  but still looking into it.  


 drtracey wrote:
I have a very similar issue, although my two echo devices are not paired (one is downstairs the other upstairs). RP is completely fine on the downstairs 2nd gen echo, but upstairs on the echo dot I either get “welcome to RP” and then nothing or the dreaded loop. Disable/enable, change of network and factory reset all unhelpful 

please help me fix it!




 


 


 


 

So far so good.  MAny thanks. What’s 10% of zero anyway? 

 


drtracey

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Location: uk
Gender: Female


Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 12:01pm



 Chumbah_Wumbah wrote:
jarro, many thanks, normal service, in stereo, now appears to have been restored together with voice control.
You have my vote for employee of the month, a 10% pay rise, and use of the corporate jet for your next vacation.


 jarro wrote:
Should be improved now,  but still looking into it.  


 drtracey wrote:
I have a very similar issue, although my two echo devices are not paired (one is downstairs the other upstairs). RP is completely fine on the downstairs 2nd gen echo, but upstairs on the echo dot I either get “welcome to RP” and then nothing or the dreaded loop. Disable/enable, change of network and factory reset all unhelpful 

please help me fix it!




 


 


 


 

So far so good.  MAny thanks. What’s 10% of zero anyway? 
Chumbah_Wumbah

Location: UK


Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 12:51am

jarro, many thanks, normal service, in stereo, now appears to have been restored together with voice control.
You have my vote for employee of the month, a 10% pay rise, and use of the corporate jet for your next vacation.

 jarro wrote:
Should be improved now,  but still looking into it.  


 drtracey wrote:
I have a very similar issue, although my two echo devices are not paired (one is downstairs the other upstairs). RP is completely fine on the downstairs 2nd gen echo, but upstairs on the echo dot I either get “welcome to RP” and then nothing or the dreaded loop. Disable/enable, change of network and factory reset all unhelpful 

please help me fix it!




 


 


 


jarro

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Location: #guad
Gender: Male


Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 1:57pm

Should be improved now,  but still looking into it.  


 drtracey wrote:
I have a very similar issue, although my two echo devices are not paired (one is downstairs the other upstairs). RP is completely fine on the downstairs 2nd gen echo, but upstairs on the echo dot I either get “welcome to RP” and then nothing or the dreaded loop. Disable/enable, change of network and factory reset all unhelpful 

please help me fix it!




 


 


drtracey

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Location: uk
Gender: Female


Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 11:51am

I have a very similar issue, although my two echo devices are not paired (one is downstairs the other upstairs). RP is completely fine on the downstairs 2nd gen echo, but upstairs on the echo dot I either get “welcome to RP” and then nothing or the dreaded loop. Disable/enable, change of network and factory reset all unhelpful 

please help me fix it!




 


Chumbah_Wumbah

Location: UK


Posted: Oct 3, 2020 - 8:02am

Thanks for the quick response. It's very much appreciated.
I'd have thought that by using the RP skill (as I have been doing for months now as I was aware that TuneIn had been problematic for RP for some time) that the speaker paring and stereo would have been handled by the Echo units & Alexa app.
I've noticed that only over the last couple of weeks the stereo output had been flaky, even to the point that verbal instructions for RP to commence had been inconsistent, and would only start by manually running a routine I had set up to have RP as a "morning alarm".
FYI
Echo Plus s/w v 4128036484
Echo 3rd Gen s/w v 4128035204

It also seems that the Echo Plus s/w version is inconsistent with the official Amazon check list, but then I've also read that Amazon is a bit slow on publishing their s/w updates (go figure).
Looking forward to RP in glorious stereo




 jarro wrote:
I'll be looking into the Alexa issue to see if we can do anything to help with that on our end.

I can explain the stereo issue.   That currently requires TuneIn  which  is no longer an option in the UK.
We're be looking into adding support for speaker groups,  but Amazon hasn't provided an upgrade path  yet.


 Chumbah_Wumbah wrote:
Hi, I have an Echo (3rd Gen) & Echo Plus (2nd Gen) paired and set up as a stereo pair. Recently I'm no longer able to play RP in stereo.
RP will play out of one or the other speaker, but not both. Coupled into that half the time when I request "Alexa, play Radio Paradise", Alexa will say "Welcome to Radio Paradise" but then nothing, nada, zip.
I can stream music via My Media ok and in stereo, but live music streams only seem to come out of one speaker.
Additionally the stream just seems to stop, and seems to lock up unable to resume for some time.
Is anyone else experiencing similar issues in the UK or elsewhere in the world?
I've tried the whole reset, de-register uninstall re-install rigmaroll, and it's still the same.
It's not helped by Amazons useless/non existent CS/Tech support.
TIA
Andy
 


 


jarro

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Location: #guad
Gender: Male


Posted: Oct 3, 2020 - 5:02am

I'll be looking into the Alexa issue to see if we can do anything to help with that on our end.

I can explain the stereo issue.   That currently requires TuneIn  which  is no longer an option in the UK.
We're be looking into adding support for speaker groups,  but Amazon hasn't provided an upgrade path  yet.


 Chumbah_Wumbah wrote:
Hi, I have an Echo (3rd Gen) & Echo Plus (2nd Gen) paired and set up as a stereo pair. Recently I'm no longer able to play RP in stereo.
RP will play out of one or the other speaker, but not both. Coupled into that half the time when I request "Alexa, play Radio Paradise", Alexa will say "Welcome to Radio Paradise" but then nothing, nada, zip.
I can stream music via My Media ok and in stereo, but live music streams only seem to come out of one speaker.
Additionally the stream just seems to stop, and seems to lock up unable to resume for some time.
Is anyone else experiencing similar issues in the UK or elsewhere in the world?
I've tried the whole reset, de-register uninstall re-install rigmaroll, and it's still the same.
It's not helped by Amazons useless/non existent CS/Tech support.
TIA
Andy
 


Chumbah_Wumbah

Location: UK


Posted: Oct 3, 2020 - 3:17am

Hi, I have an Echo (3rd Gen) & Echo Plus (2nd Gen) paired and set up as a stereo pair. Recently I'm no longer able to play RP in stereo.
RP will play out of one or the other speaker, but not both. Coupled into that half the time when I request "Alexa, play Radio Paradise", Alexa will say "Welcome to Radio Paradise" but then nothing, nada, zip.
I can stream music via My Media ok and in stereo, but live music streams only seem to come out of one speaker.
Additionally the stream just seems to stop, and seems to lock up unable to resume for some time.
Is anyone else experiencing similar issues in the UK or elsewhere in the world?
I've tried the whole reset, de-register uninstall re-install rigmaroll, and it's still the same.
It's not helped by Amazons useless/non existent CS/Tech support.
TIA
Andy