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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 9:43am



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
They are just down the road from me.. shall I go and ask? It wasn't a hoax. The US ambassador's take on it was that it was "way overplayed" which is probably closer to the truth.
There is nothing wrong with funding research or fast-tracking a vaccine to stop a pandemic. CureVac has some deep pockets behind it: Dietmar Hopp (SAP founder) and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to name just two. I doubt that a lack of funding is the issue. Which then leaves the question of why would the US administration want to invest in the firm, either as equity or government grant or whatever. The whiff of wanting control of some kind in return for big dollars still hangs over the episode if you ask me. (and this is corroborated by the reaction of the German government, who would not want to ruffle feathers unnecessarily).

Edit: To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they just wanted to secure a license, again that would be totally bona fide.
 


Curevac via Twitter: "To make it clear again on coronavirus: CureVac has not received from the US government or related entities an offer before, during and since the Task Force meeting in the White House on March 2. CureVac rejects all allegations from press."

https://twitter.com/CureVacAG/status/1239535638359281664

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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 9:04am

 Lazy8 wrote:
R_P wrote:

So...are you sticking to the original story?

The Breitbart article was accurate in every way I can check. The original Welt am Sonntag story seems to have been a hoax. All the major news organizations that propagated it have since edited their stories. The company at the center of the kerfuffle claims no such offer was made. This appears to be sloppy journalism (coupled with TDS) on a global scale.

Yes, Breitbart has a right-wing bias. The Guardian (and NYT, and too many others to mention) have a left-wing bias. That doesn't make any of them wrong in any particular instance, just as KarmaKarma's obnoxiousness doesn't make him(?) wrong and your snide condescension doesn't make you wrong.
 
They are just down the road from me.. shall I go and ask?  It wasn't a hoax. The US ambassador's take on it was that it was "way overplayed" which is probably closer to the truth. 
There is nothing wrong with funding research or fast-tracking a vaccine to stop a pandemic. CureVac has some deep pockets behind it: Dietmar Hopp (SAP founder) and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to name just two. I doubt that a lack of funding is the issue. Which then leaves the question of why would the US administration want to invest in the firm, either as equity or government grant or whatever. The whiff of wanting control of some kind in return for big dollars still hangs over the episode if you ask me. (and this is corroborated by the reaction of the German government, who would not want to ruffle feathers unnecessarily).

Edit: To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they just wanted to secure a license, again that would be totally bona fide.
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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 8:42am

R_P wrote:

So...are you sticking to the original story?

The Breitbart article was accurate in every way I can check. The original Welt am Sonntag story seems to have been a hoax. All the major news organizations that propagated it have since edited their stories. The company at the center of the kerfuffle claims no such offer was made. This appears to be sloppy journalism (coupled with TDS) on a global scale.

Yes, Breitbart has a right-wing bias. The Guardian (and NYT, and too many others to mention) have a left-wing bias. That doesn't make any of them wrong in any particular instance, just as KarmaKarma's obnoxiousness doesn't make him(?) wrong and your snide condescension doesn't make you wrong.
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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 1:52am



 buddy wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


ammotures. real preppers have plenty of ammo already

 

Sorry, I don't find these fuckers funny at all anymore. We live among them and they're downright terrifying.
 
They've  never been funny.  

 

You know we all are not as portrayed on tv.  Weapons and ammo are just basics for some and infatuations for others.  Personally I put weapons and ammo on the lower end of necessities, most of us are just normal people who think ahead, that's it.  If it gets to the point to where I am in firefights with people or the government well I really don't even want to live in a world like that.   Some people just like to be prepared and now the whole world is seeing why.  Most preppers are decent people and actually support the notion that the more of us that are  preparing makes the need for weapons and ammo go down and that is a world we can all aspire to.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 9:15pm

Coronavirus truthers prey on the anxiety of the moment

 KarmaKarma wrote:
 
Oh my, a discerning connoisseur!
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 8:49pm



 haresfur wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:


 haresfur wrote:
 
Such a sensational claim!  If true, Trump should be kicked out of office, if not arrested!

But wait.  There are no consequences of significance when a news outlet either falsely reports a story, or just plain does a poor job with sourcing.

Me, I'll be waiting for the retractions published on page 32, in tiny print.  


@RichardGrenell
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Not true. The Welt story was wrong. But Business Insider, Reuters and others went with it anyway despite not having their own sources. Now everyone is back peddling.

https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1239248345329274881?s=20

Just another day where #fakenews never ends.  You folks should be smarter by now and not fall for explosive tripe like this.  But you're not.   Why is that, exactly?  Maybe you like clicking on  those groovy phishing emails too.
 
he says offering no evidence. I guess I'll believe him because he says what you want to hear

 
Your retraction has now arrived.  If you can find it.  If you noticed at all.  I truly doubt you heard of it - or even bothered to follow up on your own.

The irrational left has been fooled again.  Because you want to believe!  And you wonder why we laugh at the TDS-infected left and mock the corrupt and professionally bankrupt leftist media.

Reuters Stealth-Edits Debunked Story Claiming Trump Sought ‘Monopoly’ on COVID-19 Vaccine

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/03/16/reuters-stealth-edits-debunked-story-claiming-trump-sought-monopoly-on-covid-19-vaccine/

Trump landslide 2020 !

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 6:34pm

Just got a call from my oral surgeon who cancelled my pre-torture meeting. They are locked down
for a month. Nor I have to extend my liquid diet for at least another  month and just because I don't
has no teeth left doesn't mean they don't hurt something awful. I'm eating better with nothing but smoothies
anyway - bananas, berries, ground flax seeds beet powder, greens powder. It's a healthy filling meal.
I do miss real food sometimes though. 
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 6:03pm

You know who's not hoarding TP, disinfectants or food? People who rely on paltry amounts of food stamps are who.
They say we should have 2 weeks worth of supplies on hand - but that's all the gubment gives us to live on every month. 
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 5:51pm



 buddy wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


ammotures. real preppers have plenty of ammo already

 

Sorry, I don't find these fuckers funny at all anymore. We live among them and they're downright terrifying.
 
They've  never been funny.  

 
No they aren't, which is precisely why I laugh at them. and yes, I have known some
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 4:06pm



 haresfur wrote:


ammotures. real preppers have plenty of ammo already

 

Sorry, I don't find these fuckers funny at all anymore. We live among them and they're downright terrifying.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 3:59pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:
 
ammotures. real preppers have plenty of ammo already

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 3:41pm



 R_P wrote:
 

ammosexuals...
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 2:48pm

US sales of guns and ammunition soar amid coronavirus panic buying
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 2:39pm



 Ohmsen wrote:

And... 
an interesting video talk from a doctor - virus expert - with English subtitles... 
 
The Doctors issues with italy are explained here:  Coronavirus: Why it's so dangerous in Italy

The Italian mortality rate is so much higher because the Italians are testing a small subset, whilst in S. Korea 30% of all cases are found in 20-29 year olds...who usually show slight to no signs of infection.  

The issues are real, but the statistics are generally apples and oranges from country to country.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 2:39pm



 Ohmsen wrote:
Some reasonings, underway by Ron Paul naming the coronavirus a hoax:

 

That's great that he's okay with it because Candace Owens figures old folks should just die and not be counted in the statistics of this. 
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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 12:26pm

Looks like a few posts from last evening have disappeared!
rgio

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 12:05pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 R_P wrote:

 

That's an interesting Y-axis, prone to being vastly misinterpreted by day 25. 
 
What's interesting about S. Korea is its expansive testing.  If you look at the fatality rates, S. Korea is under 1% while Italy is now over 7%.  The difference is testing.  In Korea, over 50% of the confirmed cases are ages 20-50, with 20-year-olds accounting for 30% of the confirmed cases.  In Italy, roughly 20% of the cases are for those aged 20-50.  The difference...Korea is testing 3-4 times as manly people, including those who have come in contact with others diagnosed with Covid-19.  In Italy, they don't test until you show symptoms.  If we had testing for everyone today....the line would turn sharp right overnight and we could address those already infected.

Preparedness and early aggression toward testing are the post-China story of this virus.   

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 11:42am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Yep. I didn't say it was wrong, but it straightens out the hockey stick so it's not as dramatic as it could  be.
 
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fractalv

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 11:38am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Yep. I didn't say it was wrong, but it straightens out the hockey stick so it's not as dramatic as it could  be.
 

If you are looking at the numbers, then yes. I think the intent of this graph was to compare the angle of the trajectories, which is much easier to do in this format. I'm not disagreeing with you at all, just sharing what I know about why they would choose this graph (about the only time I ever put my degree in applied mathematics to any use )
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 - 11:30am



 fractalv wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 R_P wrote:

 

That's an interesting Y-axis, prone to being vastly misinterpreted by day 25. 
 
It's a logarithmic scale, appropriate for graphs with exponential change. Admittedly often misunderstood for those less familiar with this format, but appropriate just the same.



 

Yep. I didn't say it was wrong, but it straightens out the hockey stick so it's not as dramatic as it could  be.
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