Same guy, still here, Dave. Notice I wrote figuratively?
Older, yip.
Perhaps smarting still from watching the business I built turn to ashes and dust because of 'Rona nonsense lockdowns.
Still stunned that people I always assumed to be smart and self-aware enough to understand personal sovereignty turned out to be ordinary simple sheeple.
Concerned that if people are not held to account for the nonsense of the past few years they will feel emboldened to repeat the process.
Still determined to rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
But basically the same guy, still here, and missing some of the people that I also believed to be motivated by love and not fear, but weren't.
Basically the same bloke, but not zigackly.
We grow and change and learn.
Sorry about your business. Pandemics suck.
But it is bizarre that you are running down the anti-vax rat-hole when it is the very thing that could have saved so much grief if it had been available straight-away and if people would actually achieve a high level of vaccination so that the health system didn't fall apart. Australia was very heavy-handed on getting people to vaccinate and achieved very high levels of at least the first round. Bottom line - it worked in spite of the marginal levels of health care staffing at the best of times. And you know what? More lives were saved, or at least deaths postponed than were lost to the vaccine. Like probably under a dozen people died due to reactions to the vaccine. It's like seat belts. There are certain extremely rare instances where wearing a seat belt could contribute to a death but they are totally overwhelmed by the instances where it saves your arse.
It sounds like you are letting yourself lash out at everyone official who was trying to hold shit together due to anger at your personal situation. And in doing so you are uncritically accepting all the bullshit spewed by anti-government, anti-vax influencers who have absolutely no basis for their assertions.
Yes to all, but also noting that you've conflated three different organizations (governmental) and a corporate conglomerate. All with different goals and agendas. The FDA is tasked with making sure stuff we ingest is safe, so they wanted to delay but faced political pressure to issue an emergency authorization. The CDC is tasked with limiting the spread of disease - notably different than being sure people don't get sick or suffer side effects from treatments. The DOJ is law enforcement - an even more political version. And Pharma - well we are the only country with pharmaceutical advertisement on TV.
You can blame people for all kinds of issues, here. But it was an unknown situation developing quickly and impacting literally billions of people.
The FDA and CDC for the most part are just looking for the most possible good, which often will put them at odds with the individual. This is pretty much to be expected in a society like ours. The DOJ and collective pharma entities, unfortunately, have far too much political/profit incentive - which ironically also is largely bad for most individuals, but not a certain few well connected individuals. The larger problem to me is that a whole lot of people think they are in the club, or that they will be granted access / privilege to the club when the time comes. But the club is really closed. If you aren't in, you aren't getting in. It doesn't matter how much harm you wish on everyone else.
Thanks. Yes, I seemingly lumped politicians, gov agencies and regulators togetherâ¦but only from the perspective of gov related entities acting to promote a vaccine. A vaccine, from what I know, which significantly protected the population. So I can forgive for the extra marketing. And as you imply, to an extent their hands are tied from providing complete disclosure, and must hedge to the interest of the population.
So very very tired of lookie-loos who get their knowledge from YouTube thinking that they "understand" how the gradual understanding of a new infection, its epidemiology, its possible treatments, and the science behind how those treatments work - with the new speed bumps of intentional misinformation from our enemies, intentional misinformation from trolls, hysterical misinformation from paranoiacs, and confused laypeople not sure - out of all those sources - to listen to.
When you see non-science people telling you that scientists with legit backgrounds don't understand the problem, and you should do something else, that should tell you something about the veracity of those people. Listening to them - even engaging with that crap - is a waste of your life.
I went through ALL this before with HIV: awareness there was something new, an attempt at defining it (what gives Kaposi's sarcoma or Mycobacterium avii to gay men - but not gay women, Haitians, drug abusers, and hemophiliacs?), and then figuring out its spread (is it in your cough? your sweat?), and then how to treat it - while young and previously healthy people all around you are dying rapidly from it. While there's a sociopolitical push to not talk about it because it's not affecting, you know, everyone. You know, maybe it's a plague from God. Maybe they deserve it.
This is all that same crap, just with the internet to magnify it.
I canât recall one person who was vaccinated who wasnât at least a bit nervous about getting the shot. Most if not all vaccines, pharmaceuticals â¦carry some risk. But the risk from the very real dangers of COVID outweighed that risk. And thatâs why I got the first two, and a booster.
Did gov, CDC and pharma downplay the personal risks, and perhaps oversell the shot? Seems like the answer is yes, but their job is more about protecting the masses, than specifically the individual.
Can we trust pharma completely? No. Their job is to create and promote the sale of drugs. And although pharma has in the aggregate done much more good than harm, sometimes they do act to the detriment of society (see the opioid crisis, and the role of the FDA and DOJ).
So, a certain level of push back from the public is fair, to help keep things honest. But there is the fine line, and balance that must be maintained.
Yes to all, but also noting that you've conflated three different organizations (governmental) and a corporate conglomerate. All with different goals and agendas. The FDA is tasked with making sure stuff we ingest is safe, so they wanted to delay but faced political pressure to issue an emergency authorization. The CDC is tasked with limiting the spread of disease - notably different than being sure people don't get sick or suffer side effects from treatments. The DOJ is law enforcement - an even more political version. And Pharma - well we are the only country with pharmaceutical advertisement on TV.
You can blame people for all kinds of issues, here. But it was an unknown situation developing quickly and impacting literally billions of people.
The FDA and CDC for the most part are just looking for the most possible good, which often will put them at odds with the individual. This is pretty much to be expected in a society like ours. The DOJ and collective pharma entities, unfortunately, have far too much political/profit incentive - which ironically also is largely bad for most individuals, but not a certain few well connected individuals. The larger problem to me is that a whole lot of people think they are in the club, or that they will be granted access / privilege to the club when the time comes. But the club is really closed. If you aren't in, you aren't getting in. It doesn't matter how much harm you wish on everyone else.
I canât recall one person who was vaccinated who wasnât at least a bit nervous about getting the shot. Most if not all vaccines, pharmaceuticals â¦carry some risk. But the risk from the very real dangers of COVID outweighed that risk. And thatâs why I got the first two, and a booster.
Did gov, CDC and pharma downplay the personal risks, and perhaps oversell the shot? Seems like the answer is yes, but their job is more about protecting the masses, than specifically the individual.
Can we trust pharma completely? No. Their job is to create and promote the sale of drugs. And although pharma has in the aggregate done much more good than harm, sometimes they do act to the detriment of society (see the opioid crisis, and the role of the FDA and DOJ).
So, a certain level of push back from the public is fair, to help keep things honest. But there is the fine line, and balance that must be maintained.
Same guy, still here, Dave. Notice I wrote figuratively?
Older, yip.
Perhaps smarting still from watching the business I built turn to ashes and dust because of 'Rona nonsense lockdowns.
Still stunned that people I always assumed to be smart and self-aware enough to understand personal sovereignty turned out to be ordinary simple sheeple.
Concerned that if people are not held to account for the nonsense of the past few years they will feel emboldened to repeat the process.
Still determined to rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
But basically the same guy, still here, and missing some of the people that I also believed to be motivated by love and not fear, but weren't.
Basically the same bloke, but not zigackly.
We grow and change and learn.
Sorry about your troubles. Like Dave, I've wondered why the change and reactiveness in the new persona. Maybe take a beat though - a deep breath or two. You're here calling for violence against people you know only through media. You've also had some other harsh reactions to fairly normal (if still bothersome) inputs from the world. Sure we all change and grow as we age, I'd like to think I do. But my core values are still there. If that same bloke is in you, may he find some peace and tolerance, and find his way back up on that horse.
Wow. WTF happened to the guy who used to go by Wallace Hartley; a man motivated by love, not fear?
Same guy, still here, Dave. Notice I wrote figuratively?
Older, yip.
Perhaps smarting still from watching the business I built turn to ashes and dust because of 'Rona nonsense lockdowns.
Still stunned that people I always assumed to be smart and self-aware enough to understand personal sovereignty turned out to be ordinary simple sheeple.
Concerned that if people are not held to account for the nonsense of the past few years they will feel emboldened to repeat the process.
Still determined to rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
But basically the same guy, still here, and missing some of the people that I also believed to be motivated by love and not fear, but weren't.
Basically the same bloke, but not zigackly.
We grow and change and learn.
Holding people to account is crucial - this must never happen again and, IMHO, the way we make sure it never happens again is by figuratively putting the Fauci's, Gates', Tedros', and others against a wall and shooting them in the head.
Dead.
I know of 2 families torn apart by divorce over the 'vax issue, and I think Tim Robbins, though genuinely contrite, is also getting out ahead of the game that is surely to come.
Everything from the purveyors of those crappy though colourful little graphs that present links to absolutely no data at all, to those responsible for the death and case number tickers on TV screens based off of horrendously inaccurate PCR testing protocols, and including those responsible for the supression of therapeutics...all must be held accountable.
And it seems to have begun in Florida where de Santis has requested a grand jury investigation be carried out into who did what to whom in Florida through the Coof season of mass formation psychosis.
There must be consequences.
Bold 1&2: Yet you don't advocate holding the anti-vax people to account who have spread verifiable lies and unverifiable claims. These are the people who tore families apart. Of course there is no proof of long-term safety of a new vaccine because it is new. But there is plenty of evidence of the vaccine safety compared to the risks of the disease. And we now have millions or billions of people who have been vaccinated that show the overall safety for several years.
Bold 3: de Santis is the one who hid the numbers of covid cases in his state and fired employees for publishing them. If he truly wanted to know what happened he wouldn't have suppressed the data needed to figure it out. He is the first one the grand jury should investigate.
Advocating violence is the very last action anyone should be demanding. Invites the very worst response from "the state", adding justification to tyrannical responses.
An irrelevant tin-foil-hat forced perspective. It's inappropriate in society, period, no matter how paranoid you are about The Man watching you (unless that Man is William).
William/BillG (don't know which gets your automated attention), this kind of violent hyperbole - which we've seen can trigger some to action - strikes me as inappropriate.
Advocating violence is the very last action anyone should be demanding. Invites the very worst response from "the state", adding justification to tyrannical responses.
Holding people to account is crucial - this must never happen again and, IMHO, the way we make sure it never happens again is by figuratively putting the Fauci's, Gates', Tedros', and others against a wall and shooting them in the head.
Dead.
I know of 2 families torn apart by divorce over the 'vax issue, and I think Tim Robbins, though genuinely contrite, is also getting out ahead of the game that is surely to come.
Everything from the purveyors of those crappy though colourful little graphs that present links to absolutely no data at all, to those responsible for the death and case number tickers on TV screens based off of horrendously inaccurate PCR testing protocols, and including those responsible for the supression of therapeutics...all must be held accountable.
And it seems to have begun in Florida where de Santis has requested a grand jury investigation be carried out into who did what to whom in Florida through the Coof season of mass formation psychosis.
There must be consequences.
William/BillG (don't know which gets your automated attention), this kind of violent hyperbole - which we've seen can trigger some to action - strikes me as inappropriate.
I'm with you on Tim's overall take, and found he came across as humble, after he confessed to holding a strong position he'd osmosed from the MSM. I spent 7 years in the pharma testing industry, and jumped on the 'vaccinate' bandwagon for the couple of months. After noting the shaky certitude of the UK's Chief Medical Officer - his body language wasn't supportive of his "safe and effective" statements in the Autumn of 2020 - I really started pay attention to dissident voices, eg Dr Robert Malone. This seed was supported in its growth by my knowing a little bit of the "perp sheet" of the likes of Pfizer, amongst other major pharma providers. So as a consequence of not "toeing the party line" at home (ie. England, UK) I've said goodbye to family and friends as a consequence of holding my line to what I consider as "right and true". That is, the Truth. That as the facts on the origins of SARS-Cov-2 build, of governments' collusion with big pharma, big tech, and their ties to the WEF, holding our representatives to account is more vital than ever.
Holding people to account is crucial - this must never happen again and, IMHO, the way we make sure it never happens again is by figuratively putting the Fauci's, Gates', Tedros', and others against a wall and shooting them in the head.
Dead.
I know of 2 families torn apart by divorce over the 'vax issue, and I think Tim Robbins, though genuinely contrite, is also getting out ahead of the game that is surely to come.
Everything from the purveyors of those crappy though colourful little graphs that present links to absolutely no data at all, to those responsible for the death and case number tickers on TV screens based off of horrendously inaccurate PCR testing protocols, and including those responsible for the supression of therapeutics...all must be held accountable.
And it seems to have begun in Florida where de Santis has requested a grand jury investigation be carried out into who did what to whom in Florida through the Coof season of mass formation psychosis.
Respectfully, he doesn't discuss the virus or vaccinations other than to say that he is on board with the science. He is speaking truth to power about the way it has been used as a hammer to silence alternative experiences and opinions or evolving if contrarian information. The overall societal bugs, as it were. IMHO worth listening to.
I'm with you on Tim's overall take, and found he came across as humble, after he confessed to holding a strong position he'd osmosed from the MSM. I spent 7 years in the pharma testing industry, and jumped on the 'vaccinate' bandwagon for the couple of months. After noting the shaky certitude of the UK's Chief Medical Officer - his body language wasn't supportive of his "safe and effective" statements in the Autumn of 2020 - I really started pay attention to dissident voices, eg Dr Robert Malone. This seed was supported in its growth by my knowing a little bit of the "perp sheet" of the likes of Pfizer, amongst other major pharma providers. So as a consequence of not "toeing the party line" at home (ie. England, UK) I've said goodbye to family and friends as a consequence of holding my line to what I consider as "right and true". That is, the Truth. That as the facts on the origins of SARS-Cov-2 build, of governments' collusion with big pharma, big tech, and their ties to the WEF, holding our representatives to account is more vital than ever.
No country has a perfect COVID vaccination rate, even this far into the pandemic, but Americaâs record is particularly dismal. About a third of Americansâmore than a hundred million peopleâhave yet to get their initial shots. You can find anti-vaxxers in every corner of the country. But by far the single group of adults most likely to be unvaccinated is Republicans: 37 percent of Republicans are still unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated, compared with 9 percent of Democrats. Fourteen of the 15 states with the lowest vaccination rates voted for Donald Trump in 2020. (The other is Georgia.)
We know that unvaccinated Americans are more likely to be Republican, that Republicans in positions of power led the movement against COVID vaccination, and that hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans have died preventable deaths from the disease. The Republican Party is unquestionably complicit in the premature deaths of many of its own supporters, a phenomenon that may be without precedent in the history of both American democracy and virology. (...)
More COVID More Measles? There are a number of potential problems children are facing that are related to the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, not the least of which is a rise in vaccine hesitancy and even anti-vaccine belief.
But Iâm a pediatrician, so what about the kids? Wonât anyone think about them? Yes! Unsurprisingly, children have also suffered greatly over the past nearly three years. In the United States alone, there have been roughly 15 million documented pediatric COVID-19 cases, which is undoubtedly a massive underestimate of the true incidence. And in addition to the direct repercussions of infection, with a non insignificant number of deaths and many more hospitalizations for severe disease, children have also had to deal with a variety of other problems, not all of which could have been predicted. Nobody was expecting MIS-C in early 2020, for example.
Adding to the possibility of that severe and even life-threatening inflammatory condition, even children with only mild COVID-19 are at increased risk of developing diabetes, to give just one of several more examples. There have also been significant increases in ED visits and hospitalizations for mental health crises in our teen and young adult populations. This really is just the tip of the iceberg as there are a number of post-COVID-19 conditions that have been seen in children, with as many as 25% still having symptoms a month after diagnosis. Between 2% and 10% of children diagnosed with COVID-19 will ultimately develop the more disruptive syndrome of post-acute sequelae of COVID (PASC), also known as âlong COVIDâ.
But today I want to discuss a different issue related to the pandemic that is indirectly harming children and has the potential to do so for a very long time. During the peak of the pandemic, when people were trying to stay home and avoid COVID-19, millions of children got behind on their routine immunizations. This was, and is, a worldwide phenomenon. The WHO recently estimated that 40 million children missed a dose of the measles vaccine in 2021 alone, putting them and potentially millions more around them at risk of developing this potentially deadly disease.
In addition to lack of access, the pandemic has also appeared to fuel a wave of anti-vaccine sentiment in the United States. Being against routine childhood immunization, something that has saved countless lives and prevented suffering in so many innocent children, is becoming a plank in the GOP platform. This growing number of people that are wary of vaccines is adding to the number of children who will not be protected from vaccine-preventable illnesses. (...)
Evil? Mean-spirited, nasty, condescending, arrogant, sure! Does it have to be "evil"? So what does Tim Robbins say? How about summarizing the video in a paragraph or two? Please.
Gotta say, just like how I don’t care what MTG has to say about medicine, I don’t care what Tim has to say. I’d rather hear from people who do it for a a living, after long periods of study of complex topics, for decades, for multiple administrations. If only we had someone with that much understanding of the problems of epidemics and public health…
Respectfully, he doesn't discuss the virus or vaccinations other than to say that he is on board with the science. He is speaking truth to power about the way it has been used as a hammer to silence alternative experiences and opinions or evolving if contrarian information. The overall societal bugs, as it were. IMHO worth listening to.
