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rgio

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:34am

In case you wanted to see what's possible when you combine planning, leadership, and facts/data, take a look at the steps taken and the results in Taiwan

Response to COVID-19 in Taiwan

Take a look at the supplement and the details of the steps taken. 
R_P

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:28am

 kurtster wrote:
This conversation reminds me a bit of all the Y2K stuff.
 
If people work as hard and as smart as they did (and that included me working on New Year's Eve 31 Dec 1999-1 Jan 2000) in the years leading up to Y2K to prevent major issues (by screening for possible problem areas, offering best practices, remedies, etc.)...
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:27am



 BillG wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 
Thanks for posting that, Scott.  Nothing beats actual science when it comes to truly clarifying things. 
 

Numbers and Charts! 

I need to get off the internet because if I hear one more person equate "reasonable precautions" with "panic," I'm going to pick up a crowbar and start swinging.
BillG

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:17am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 
Thanks for posting that, Scott.  Nothing beats actual science when it comes to truly clarifying things. 
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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 11:11am

WHO declares coronavirus pandemic
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 10:57am

AFW has her State Speech Meet starting tomorrow. I asked locally if it was going to be suspended and the coach said it hasn't been canceled and that the WHSAA site has a link to CDC's info page for some reassurance and what you can do. What that page says, right at the top: The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus.

So I said yeah but that doesn't protect the general population. She said one child has been pulled and that I can pull AFW and, now, she's a friend so I don't want to get huffy but it's not about my kid. It's never about "me." The system needs to get with the program.


Cancel Everything

Social distancing is the only way to stop the coronavirus. We must start immediately.


 
sirdroseph

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 9:15am

 black321 wrote:
Out of an abundance of caution, just cancelled my flight/trip to west coast. 
Can't convince my 85 y.o. dad to do the same. 
 
Oh man, he is at risk.  In all seriousness it is our old folks who do need to take extra precaution even to the point of virtual quarantine.{#Pray}
black321

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 9:10am

Out of an abundance of caution, just cancelled my flight/trip to west coast. 
Can't convince my 85 y.o. dad to do the same. 
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 8:49am

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca 

Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now


When you’re done reading the article, this is what you’ll take away:

The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.

As a politician, community leader or business leader, you have the power and the responsibility to prevent this.

You might have fears today: What if I overreact? Will people laugh at me? Will they be angry at me? Will I look stupid? Won’t it be better to wait for others to take steps first? Will I hurt the economy too much?

But in 2–4 weeks, when the entire world is in lockdown, when the few precious days of social distancing you will have enabled will have saved lives, people won’t criticize you anymore: They will thank you for making the right decision.

Ok, let’s do this.



Every flat line is a Chinese region with coronavirus cases. Each one had the potential to become exponential, but thanks to the measures happening just at the end of January, all of them stopped the virus before it could spread.

Meanwhile, South Korea, Italy and Iran had a full month to learn, but didn’t. They started the same exponential growth of Hubei and passed every Chinese region before the end of February.



Guess what the US line looks like...



KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 6:59am



 kurtster wrote:


This conversation reminds me a bit of all the Y2K stuff.
 
Another wasted panic situation.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 6:12am



 Lazy8 wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I just think toilet paper is something that doesn't have seasonal spikes. Maybe in Jackson Hole NO PUN INTENDED where the resident population quintuples in summer but even then, a couple of years of data should tell them enough to predict very precisely how much to have on the next truck. It's probably one of the most consistent retail products in all the land, AND it's bulky, so it's expensive to warehouse more than necessary in the retail store. Costco gets trucks several times a week, so they can resupply quickly. 1000 Costcos all doing an unscheduled early restock will be hard to deal with, but somewhere in KirklandLand there's got to be a small forest worth of paper products waiting to be transferred to the distribution center. They would do that on a set schedule too, normally. So if someone thinks "I might not be able to leave the house for a month, what should I buy?" everyone will toss an extra package of TP on the cart. Exactly one day of that and Costco will be calling Kirkland for a resupply.

Costco is only one player in the retail game and they are far more centralized than is typical. Other big box stores are similar but most grocers aren't.

Even Costco has regional distribution centers—18 of 'em in North America.

Distribution is far more geographically dispersed than you might imagine, even for companies like Amazon. Seriously.
 
Most grocers get one truck a week (plus independent shipments from dairies, bakeries, etc.) so a sudden unpredicted run on TP won't be resolved until that truck comes. But those regional distribution centers also stock a precise amount of TP (I'm guessing) because by its nature, its sell-thru rate is normally going to be extremely predictable. It will look silly in hindsight, but if every store and distribution point carries 10% more TP than they *know* they'll need, well warehouse space is cheap but not free, so they're going to look at that 10% and think it's worth the small risk of running out because they're going to be pretty confident in their numbers and know they won't run out.

Billings Costco announced yesterday that they got 50 pallets of TP in. It'll probably be gone by now, but I'm guessing the blip in their supply will level out soon. Unless people hoard even more now.

kurtster

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Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 3:21am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

Why the paper towel hoarding?
 

Things you don't want to run out of. Food, yes. But paper products too. If someone in your house is ill, you don't want to use the ol' terrycloth hand towel for a week. Use paper and throw it out. If you've never really counted how much of those things you use, your guess might be wildly off. But the stuff doesn't go bad, so might as well get 50% more than your worst case scenario, right? So anyway it isn't that you're worried about not being able to find any, later (Costco is working overtime to refill from their distribution points so I think this will run its course sooner than the virus), they're just worried about having enough on hand in case they self-quarantine for a month.

I don't get the bottled water thing either. 
 
Yes, paper towels are critical, actually.  They are the most sanitary way to dry your hands, and to clean up messes and spills. Single use, dispose.  No way to hold any germs to pass on to the next user.  Also used in Microwave cooking.

We use distilled water and buy it in cases of 6 gallon bottles each, 6 cases at a pop.  Each case weighs 55 lbs and they are getting to be a bitch to move around.   Makes delicious coffee and the maker never needs descaling.  It's only about 70¢ when we buy it by the gallon at one particular place we go to.  Critical in the previous place we lived that had nasty well water.  Now I prefer the taste.

This conversation reminds me a bit of all the Y2K stuff.
Lazy8

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 11:11pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I just think toilet paper is something that doesn't have seasonal spikes. Maybe in Jackson Hole NO PUN INTENDED where the resident population quintuples in summer but even then, a couple of years of data should tell them enough to predict very precisely how much to have on the next truck. It's probably one of the most consistent retail products in all the land, AND it's bulky, so it's expensive to warehouse more than necessary in the retail store. Costco gets trucks several times a week, so they can resupply quickly. 1000 Costcos all doing an unscheduled early restock will be hard to deal with, but somewhere in KirklandLand there's got to be a small forest worth of paper products waiting to be transferred to the distribution center. They would do that on a set schedule too, normally. So if someone thinks "I might not be able to leave the house for a month, what should I buy?" everyone will toss an extra package of TP on the cart. Exactly one day of that and Costco will be calling Kirkland for a resupply.

Costco is only one player in the retail game and they are far more centralized than is typical. Other big box stores are similar but most grocers aren't.

Even Costco has regional distribution centers—18 of 'em in North America.

Distribution is far more geographically dispersed than you might imagine, even for companies like Amazon. Seriously.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 10:23pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
black321 wrote:
We live in a just-in-time world. Most grocers have about 3-days worth of inventory...if there was a 'crisis'towns and cities  would run out of food pretty quick. One of the problems of living in an 'efficient' society. 

Kinda. Grocery stores also have warehouses and wholesalers. If absolutely nothing is moving (even across town) then yeah, the shelves could be bare in a couple of days, but that's a pretty extreme situation.
 
I just think toilet paper is something that doesn't have seasonal spikes. Maybe in Jackson Hole NO PUN INTENDED where the resident population quintuples in summer but even then, a couple of years of data should tell them enough to predict very precisely how much to have on the next truck. It's probably one of the most consistent retail products in all the land, AND it's bulky, so it's expensive to warehouse more than necessary in the retail store. Costco gets trucks several times a week, so they can resupply quickly. 1000 Costcos all doing an unscheduled early restock will be hard to deal with, but somewhere in KirklandLand there's got to be a small forest worth of paper products waiting to be transferred to the distribution center. They would do that on a set schedule too, normally. So if someone thinks "I might not be able to leave the house for a month, what should I buy?" everyone will toss an extra package of TP on the cart. Exactly one day of that and Costco will be calling Kirkland for a resupply.

Lazy8

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 10:07pm

black321 wrote:
We live in a just-in-time world. Most grocers have about 3-days worth of inventory...if there was a 'crisis'towns and cities  would run out of food pretty quick. One of the problems of living in an 'efficient' society. 

Kinda. Grocery stores also have warehouses and wholesalers. If absolutely nothing is moving (even across town) then yeah, the shelves could be bare in a couple of days, but that's a pretty extreme situation.
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 10:04pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

 



I don't get the bottled water thing either. 
 It's the new drug.  

Not to mention all that plastic.

Scott... I think I could live without paper towels for awhile too. Inconvenient again.
I have enough terry cloth towels to cycle through very easily for quite a while.
Even if I have to beat them on a rock with soapy water to get them clean.
Just think how much I'll save the Earth on that deal.


KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 10:00pm



 black321 wrote:


 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:


 black321 wrote:


 

We live in a just-in-time world. Most grocers have about 3-days worth of inventory...if there was a 'crisis'towns and cities  would run out of food pretty quick. One of the problems of living in an 'efficient' society. 
 
You'd think food would be more important in a crisis situation.
I think I'm smart enough to figure out how to survive easily on my own for quite awhile. I'm sure they're people here that are smarter than me. Yes?
Toilet paper... really?
For cryin' out loud... there's lots of ways to deal with that simple problem. Inconvenient? Sure. Life or death? Really?
We're always concerned about earthquakes around these parts.
Water can be an issue. Maybe. We have over 50 swimming pools in my neighborhood.
I have buckets. I have pots and pans. I have a nice barbecue with lots of firewood. I can boil water all day long if I needed it.
And that would be a severe problem. When something bad happens, utilities are fixed within a few days of a disaster.
Am I concerned about this virus? Yes. Just as much as I am about getting the flu.
And I haven't had that in years.
Now where is that wood? Knock. Knock.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 9:51pm



 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

Why the paper towel hoarding?
 

Things you don't want to run out of. Food, yes. But paper products too. If someone in your house is ill, you don't want to use the ol' terrycloth hand towel for a week. Use paper and throw it out. If you've never really counted how much of those things you use, your guess might be wildly off. But the stuff doesn't go bad, so might as well get 50% more than your worst case scenario, right? So anyway it isn't that you're worried about not being able to find any, later (Costco is working overtime to refill from their distribution points so I think this will run its course sooner than the virus), they're just worried about having enough on hand in case they self-quarantine for a month.

I don't get the bottled water thing either. 
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 9:44pm



 R_P wrote:
 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
What would happen if there was truly a crises here?
 
So no current crisis?
 Are you buying pallets of toilet paper?


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 8:39pm



 R_P wrote:
 

So hard to get our heads around closing schools. Matter of pride etc. I don't interact with the public much or often, but I'm wondering how to decide when to pull my kids. We're out in the hinterlands, but that actually means a lot of us travel in confined metal tubes quite often...

Here's a rundown on Italy's situation â€¢ 
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