seems to be another "bumshell" in the news about covid vaccination
understanding how things work will go a long way to making sense of it all
below are two videos and an hour of time required to review the data and science it
please don't let deliberate misunderstandings form your views/conspiracies

Lying about COVID? Many Americans did so to feel ‘normal’ amid pandemic, study finds

 oldviolin wrote:
owt teef doog

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: Toof

 miamizsun wrote:

woof.

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

well, got through it. must admit knocked me far more than I was expecting. Still lethargic as hell, but am allowed out of the house... on a leash.

U.S. extends Covid public health emergency even though Biden says pandemic is over

Good luck to you both, rgio and kurtster. Reading your accounts made me realize how lucky I was not to get Covid last year.
R_P's post of there piece from The Atlantic was grim. I asked a nurse in a busy GP office if she thought the pandemic was over. She laughed and said not by a long shot.

 kurtster wrote:
I appreciate how tiring the false+ issue is...

In August 2020, my father was experiencing severe pain in his hip and was taken to the local ER (from his "locked-down" nursing home).  Upon arrival, he tested positive.  At that point, he went into COVID protocols that prevented literally anyone from so much as touching him in the hospital.  Room lockdowns.  Hallway evacuations when he was passing...the full-on leper treatment.  His surgery for a hip replacement was 30 mins of surgery surrounded by hours (or days) of orchestration.

The hospital refused to retest him.   He had come from an environment where no one had tested positive, and given the incubation period, it seemed impossible to me that he was positive.  The hospital's argument was the test was accurate.  After a week of recovery from surgery, the hospital came to me so that he could be released (as POA).  The new issue was that he couldn't go back to his facility with a positive test.  He needed to go to a place that was accepting positive patients...which also had a death rate of over 50% (no wonder).  The director of his facility said... "if he tests negative, he can come back here". 

I refused the release without a test.  It took 3 days to get the results (i assume there were multiple tests taken).  Negative.  He went back to his place.

There are no rules for this shit.  Everyone is different, and the impacts make no sense.  I have a friend who is now 2 years with brain fog.  Not working (long-term disability).  It sucks.

Good luck.  

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 kurtster wrote: 
Brought them both home yesterday.  Coordinating two patient releases at the same time at the hospital was very challenging.  My mom is now on full time oxygen going forward so I had to meet the Home Health Care guy at my Mom's house and get her concentrator installed and all the gear and little extra tanks.  I had to have that done and bring a tank with in order to get her released. She never had CV.  False + going in and they kept testing her insisting she had it.  All negative.  Long Covid hangover, severe lung damage from her first bout.  The wife was Long CV and a severe COPD attack.

I dunno.  Glad I did my BDay reboot while they were both in.  Life is forever different going forward for everyone.

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The Pandemic’s Legacy Is Already Clear
All of this will happen again.

Recently, after a week in which 2,789 Americans died of COVID-19, President Joe Biden proclaimed that “the pandemic is over.” Anthony Fauci described the controversy around the proclamation as a matter of “semantics,” but the facts we are living with can speak for themselves. COVID still kills roughly as many Americans every week as died on 9/11. It is on track to kill at least 100,000 a year—triple the typical toll of the flu. Despite gross undercounting, more than 50,000 infections are being recorded every day. The CDC estimates that 19 million adults have long COVID. Things have undoubtedly improved since the peak of the crisis, but calling the pandemic “over” is like calling a fight “finished” because your opponent is punching you in the ribs instead of the face.

American leaders and pundits have been trying to call an end to the pandemic since its beginning, only to be faced with new surges or variants. This mindset not only compromises the nation’s ability to manage COVID, but also leaves it vulnerable to other outbreaks. Future pandemics aren’t hypothetical; they’re inevitable and imminent. New infectious diseases have regularly emerged throughout recent decades, and climate change is quickening the pace of such events. As rising temperatures force animals to relocate, species that have never coexisted will meet, allowing the viruses within them to find new hosts—humans included. Dealing with all of this again is a matter of when, not if.

In 2018, I wrote an article in The Atlantic warning that the U.S. was not prepared for a pandemic. That diagnosis remains unchanged; if anything, I was too optimistic. America was ranked as the world’s most prepared country in 2019—and, bafflingly, again in 2021—but accounts for 16 percent of global COVID deaths despite having just 4 percent of the global population. It spends more on medical care than any other wealthy country, but its hospitals were nonetheless overwhelmed. It helped create vaccines in record time, but is 67th in the world in full vaccinations. (This trend cannot solely be attributed to political division; even the most heavily vaccinated blue state—Rhode Island—still lags behind 21 nations.) America experienced the largest life-expectancy decline of any wealthy country in 2020 and, unlike its peers, continued declining in 2021. If it had fared as well as just the average peer nation, 1.1 million people who died last year—a third of all American deaths—would still be alive.

America’s superlatively poor performance cannot solely be blamed on either the Trump or Biden administrations, although both have made egregious errors. Rather, the new coronavirus exploited the country’s many failing systems: its overstuffed prisons and understaffed nursing homes; its chronically underfunded public-health system; its reliance on convoluted supply chains and a just-in-time economy; its for-profit health-care system, whose workers were already burned out; its decades-long project of unweaving social safety nets; and its legacy of racism and segregation that had already left Black and Indigenous communities and other communities of color disproportionately burdened with health problems. Even in the pre-COVID years, the U.S. was still losing about 626,000 people more than expected for a nation of its size and resources. COVID simply toppled an edifice whose foundations were already rotten. (...)

 black321 wrote: 
Yep.  The wife long CV with COPD episode tossed in and my Mom has it again, too.  My Mom has simply pushed herself too hard and never really recovered from the first time I'm guessing.

C, D3, zinc and turmeric here.  So far, I'm ok.

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Thanks, 

 kurtster wrote:

Dang. Scary stuff if they're that sick as to need to be in. Fingers crossed.

 kurtster wrote:

Oof, sorry about that. Weren't you all diagnosed a month ago? Rebound case?
I was just traveling with family and 4 out of 7 of us got sick (mildly). 
The wife and I were ok, not sure why we lucked out, but we do take daily doses of zinc, quercetin and bromelain.

Well I got both the wife and my Mom in the same hospital at the same time.

and I'm the healthy one ... yup ... until I'm not ...