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NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 10:59am

 Steely_D wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

And I think that we need to hear from all sides, not just yours and those you approve of. 

Negativity is not the exclusive property of one side here.
 

Not talking about you specifically, but the idea that we need to hear all sides, like everything in life can be discussed like opposing ideas have value and must be heard. That’s not true. Someone says that the yellow thing in the sky is the sun, and someone disagrees. That opposing viewpoint doesn’t deserve equal air time, just so we can “hear both sides of the argument.” There’s only one place where that should happen, and it’s when you’re returning a parrot that’s pining for the fjords.
 
{#Roflol}{#Clap}{#Clap}{#Clap}

(and no, I am not laughing at you Kurtster, just at SteelyD's turn of phrase.)
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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 10:34am



 cc_rider wrote:


 
I think we're still only seeing the tip of the iceberg. The paper today had a picture of the crowds at Barton Springs yesterday, hours after the mayor announced a 'stay home' order. It was a hot sunny day, I get it, but still. People are spreading this thing like wildfire. I predict US deaths in six figures: a lot directly from Covid19, others due to lack of treatment. I hope I am wrong.
c.

 

Sadly, I think your assessment is probably spot on. We're living in a post-truth society wherein people's gut feeling that this isn't that bad is just as valid as scientific evidence to the contrary - and the stool sample is throwing gasoline on the fire of willful ignorance.
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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 10:27am



 Steely_D wrote:

Worth watching, friends.
 
I think we're still only seeing the tip of the iceberg. The paper today had a picture of the crowds at Barton Springs yesterday, hours after the mayor announced a 'stay home' order. It was a hot sunny day, I get it, but still. People are spreading this thing like wildfire. I predict US deaths in six figures: a lot directly from Covid19, others due to lack of treatment. I hope I am wrong.
c.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 10:24am



 kurtster wrote:
...That may explain some of my bluntness of late. I'm not dealing with all the posturing like I did before.

... I'm so used to hostility

... So if I'm guilty before I start, what the F ?

...I was just calmly trying to respond to an attempt of bullying. What do you think about that ?
 

This is not an attack. Please print out your post —just this one should do it— and take it to a counselor and ask that person what they think.


Also, please scroll past the tire fire from yesterday to the post where I responded to yours about the 45-minute rapid test etc. Maybe we can get another reset on this forum. I got a bit of clarification that the information I had came from the governor, not the EMT. I didn't get any answer about the cost but he said the tests are on the way. So in a week or so we'll find out how expensive they are, how many they got, etc. 

edit: There are several competing tests coming online rapidly. Your friend's may be in trouble.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/25/uk-researchers-develop-new-low-cost-rapid-covid-19-test-that-could-even-be-used-at-home/ $120 equipment, $5 sample swab. Etc. 
Steely_D

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 9:41am


Worth watching, friends.
kurtster

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 9:33am

 Steely_D wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

And I think that we need to hear from all sides, not just yours and those you approve of. 

Negativity is not the exclusive property of one side here.
 

Not talking about you specifically, but the idea that we need to hear all sides, like everything in life can be discussed like opposing ideas have value and must be heard. That’s not true. Someone says that the yellow thing in the sky is the sun, and someone disagrees. That opposing viewpoint doesn’t deserve equal air time, just so we can “hear both sides of the argument.” There’s only one place where that should happen, and it’s when you’re returning a parrot that’s pining for the fjords.
 
No worries, we're good there.

Just so you know, we were both locked up at the same time last week.  I tested - and you tested +.  Glad to hear you are doing well.

Part of my treatment as i woke up recalling this morning was massive doses of an IV steroid, the name of which I have already forgotten and have been on a pretty strong dose of prednisone since release and continuing.  That may explain some of my bluntness of late.  I'm not dealing with all the posturing like I did before.  I think that there has been an unnecessarily induced state of panic that is being exploited rather than treated.  Meh, that is apparently just me.

Maybe if that opposing viewpoint met less hostility the tone of future offerings might become less hyperbolic in return, eh ?  And maybe there might be some actual communication going on.  When two sides claim to hold the exclusive truth on a subject, what happens ?  Speaking personally for a minute, I'm so used to hostility that it's part of the territory and assume I'm getting it before it comes anymore.  Yeh, duh, but it is what it is.  So if I'm guilty before I start, what the F ?  

I'm looking up at my first sentence in the quote and if someone just popped in here knowing none of us, I think that they would think that I was just calmly trying to respond to an attempt of bullying.  What do you think  about that ?
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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 9:19am



 Steely_D wrote:


 jahgirl8 wrote:



I  suggest do your own reaearch. Crazy how many buy into CNN and MSNBC hysteria. Quite off point. This is nothing like anything we've been through, yet it's far less impactful than even regular flu and car accidents. This could be far worse, like Italy. Hysteria is not a good look but I know you're a tight knit family, so no one will state the obvious, but this is shitty.... something we have NEVER had to deal with, not even close. The data is clear, it will pass and we are golden like South Korea because of the quarantine requests of the government that are still defied daily. Even factoring in the stupidity of gen pop, our coutry's percentage is like S. Korea so far, low and good. Maybe spikes await, but get real and just look up prime causes of death in our country. Then stay home as recommended and don't catch or spread. There are bigger monsters out there... even SUICIDE is higher percentage. Let that sink in.

 

What sinks in is this incredible misunderstanding of what’s going on. Folks, I don’t expect jahgirl8 (there are seven others?) to change their perspective, but don’t listen to this. It’s wrong, and not in touch with the reality of what’s going on. I have colleagues who are trying to figure out how to get two people on a ventilator instead of one. There are major medical journals that are publishing disaster planning for whom to save, seriously. (One example: when preparing to intubate someone, They should be aware that they may be extubated so that someone else more likely to survive can have the resource.)

And so on. My point is this: if we listen to the folks who give the wrong advice - “don’t be hysterical and just go outside and hug your grandma” - then the danger will be on us like it is in other countries, and there’s no take backs. Listen to the experts, not the TV talking heads or their misinformed sycophants. This is a time when education and background and reality is important, and not dismissing a well educated background as â€œelitism.” 

DON’T do your own research; listen to the folks who have spent their entire careers doing the research for you.
 

Dear Bill...
steeler

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 9:19am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 jahgirl8 wrote:


 Can't even see the graphic. "You" is undefined. 
 

Tell your boss we need a new Russian here, your cover's blown.
 



“Only pay for what you need.”



Steely_D

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 9:08am



 jahgirl8 wrote:



I  suggest do your own reaearch. Crazy how many buy into CNN and MSNBC hysteria. Quite off point. This is nothing like anything we've been through, yet it's far less impactful than even regular flu and car accidents. This could be far worse, like Italy. Hysteria is not a good look but I know you're a tight knit family, so no one will state the obvious, but this is shitty.... something we have NEVER had to deal with, not even close. The data is clear, it will pass and we are golden like South Korea because of the quarantine requests of the government that are still defied daily. Even factoring in the stupidity of gen pop, our coutry's percentage is like S. Korea so far, low and good. Maybe spikes await, but get real and just look up prime causes of death in our country. Then stay home as recommended and don't catch or spread. There are bigger monsters out there... even SUICIDE is higher percentage. Let that sink in.

 

What sinks in is this incredible misunderstanding of what’s going on. Folks, I don’t expect jahgirl8 (there are seven others?) to change their perspective, but don’t listen to this. It’s wrong, and not in touch with the reality of what’s going on. I have colleagues who are trying to figure out how to get two people on a ventilator instead of one. There are major medical journals that are publishing disaster planning for whom to save, seriously. (One example: when preparing to intubate someone, They should be aware that they may be extubated so that someone else more likely to survive can have the resource.)

And so on. My point is this: if we listen to the folks who give the wrong advice - “don’t be hysterical and just go outside and hug your grandma” - then the danger will be on us like it is in other countries, and there’s no take backs. Listen to the experts, not the TV talking heads or their misinformed sycophants. This is a time when education and background and reality is important, and not dismissing a well educated background as â€œelitism.” 

DON’T do your own research; listen to the folks who have spent their entire careers doing the research for you.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 9:05am



 jahgirl8 wrote:


 Can't even see the graphic. "You" is undefined. 
 

Tell your boss we need a new Russian here, your cover's blown.
miamizsun

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 7:39am



 steeler wrote:


 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

And if you can't come up with well-reasoned arguments to counter someone whose opinions you fundamentally disagree with, then . . .
 
Er, uh 

Seriously, well said and timely. Maybe it partially is the stress talking. 
 

times are tough and stressful and we all get caught up from time to time

and we could sort of view this place (including rants) as a therapy

i never take anything personally (even face to face when  misguided people vent)

but yeah i agree  that we all should try and clean it up a bit

best regards to all




kurtster

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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 9:53pm

 R_P wrote:
Divine Conspiracy Theory...
Trump Cabinet Bible Teacher Blames Coronavirus Pandemic on God’s Wrath — Somehow It Involves China, Gay People, and Environmentalists
Ralph Drollinger, a minister who leads a weekly Bible study group for President Donald Trump’s cabinet, released a new interpretation of the coronavirus pandemic this week, arguing that the crisis represents an act of God’s judgment.

The coronavirus, Drollinger argues in two blog posts and a rambling Bible study guide published in the past few days, is a form of God’s wrath upon nations, but not one as severe as the floods described in the Old Testament or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
 
You do know that you are posting the same thing over and over again in many different threads. 

No one else seems to mind cuz they all love you, but I find it irritating.
R_P

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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 9:50pm

Divine Conspiracy Theory...
Trump Cabinet Bible Teacher Blames Coronavirus Pandemic on God’s Wrath — Somehow It Involves China, Gay People, and Environmentalists
Ralph Drollinger, a minister who leads a weekly Bible study group for President Donald Trump’s cabinet, released a new interpretation of the coronavirus pandemic this week, arguing that the crisis represents an act of God’s judgment.

The coronavirus, Drollinger argues in two blog posts and a rambling Bible study guide published in the past few days, is a form of God’s wrath upon nations, but not one as severe as the floods described in the Old Testament or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 8:49pm

 steeler wrote:


 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

And if you can't come up with well-reasoned arguments to counter someone whose opinions you fundamentally disagree with, then . . .
 
Er, uh 
Seriously, well said and timely. Maybe it partially is the stress talking. 
 
sure, no doubt..  {#Wave}
haresfur

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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 8:33pm



 haresfur wrote:

What we can learn from the countries winning the coronavirus fight

A clear summary, even if you are not Australian
 

In case this got lost in the flame-war
haresfur

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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 8:32pm



 Steely_D wrote:
Caught the COVID-19 about 4 weeks ago after a Vegas trip. Horrible aches, cough (pulled some muscles and really surprised I never broke a rib) that’s still a little problem, and fatigue so terrible I couldn’t walk 5 blocks home and had to call an Uber. Wife, a nurse, says that after I passed out on the bed I was breathing at about 30/minute. Looking back, I really could’ve been In Trouble.

But now I feel like I’ve got super-armor on. Can’t get infected now!
 

Glad you pulled through
steeler

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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 8:22pm



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

And if you can't come up with well-reasoned arguments to counter someone whose opinions you fundamentally disagree with, then . . .
 
Er, uh 


Seriously, well said and timely. Maybe it partially is the stress talking. 
R_P

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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 8:18pm

 kurtster wrote:
Actually he has wide spread support here.  They worship the ground he walks on.  When was the last time you saw anyone here challenge him on anything he posts, other than a couple of people like me of which there are few left.

He is well known on the innerwebs and has even destroyed a couple of websites in his long and wide wake.

CLICKY


NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 8:15pm

Grief you guys... stop trashing this place. Seriously. Pick up your game. 

The reason why I keep coming here after all these years is the diversity of opinion. I can meet people who hold fundamentally different views to mine. That is precisely the point. 
And if you can't come up with well-reasoned arguments to counter someone whose opinions you fundamentally disagree with, then maybe it is your own opinions you need to question.
And if you can, then please deliver it. With Reason. And four-part harmony. And then we will all enjoy it.  

But these cheap and nasty sound-bites just don't cut it. 
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Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 7:49pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
I think your (sic) on another site I read.  Same continuous snarky condescension.  And just like here, over there no one cares what you think.
Meanwhile, the adults crunch the numbers and arrive at some very interesting info.

It's like a Möbius strip... It looks as though you're talking about another person, but really...
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