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Trump - R_P - Jul 4, 2020 - 6:06pm
 
COVID-19 - miamizsun - Jul 4, 2020 - 5:23pm
 
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Why are 2 of the best albums of the last decade completel... - Steely_D - Jul 4, 2020 - 5:13pm
 
What Are You Going To Do Today? - Steely_D - Jul 4, 2020 - 4:42pm
 
Movie Quote - kcar - Jul 4, 2020 - 2:51pm
 
Looting & vandalism isn't protest - kcar - Jul 4, 2020 - 2:44pm
 
Race in America - kcar - Jul 4, 2020 - 2:29pm
 
Mixtape Culture Club - Lazy8 - Jul 4, 2020 - 2:13pm
 
Counting with Pictures - ScottN - Jul 4, 2020 - 12:58pm
 
In My Room - Coaxial - Jul 4, 2020 - 12:26pm
 
Outstanding Covers - Lazy8 - Jul 4, 2020 - 11:05am
 
Things You Thought Today - KarmaKarma - Jul 4, 2020 - 9:37am
 
Radio Paradise Comments - buddy - Jul 4, 2020 - 8:13am
 
RP Daily Trivia Challenge - BlueHeronDruid - Jul 4, 2020 - 12:37am
 
Baseball, anyone? - buddy - Jul 4, 2020 - 12:26am
 
RP stops playing after a few minutes on iPod (iOS) - gtufano - Jul 3, 2020 - 11:33pm
 
New Music - R_P - Jul 3, 2020 - 6:50pm
 
Canada - westslope - Jul 3, 2020 - 3:38pm
 
Country Up The Bumpkin - Antigone - Jul 3, 2020 - 2:39pm
 
how do you feel right now? - miamizsun - Jul 3, 2020 - 1:54pm
 
Strips, cartoons, illustrations - R_P - Jul 3, 2020 - 1:15pm
 
US Empire - R_P - Jul 3, 2020 - 12:46pm
 
Name My Band - oldviolin - Jul 3, 2020 - 11:51am
 
• • • The Once-a-Day • • •  - oldviolin - Jul 3, 2020 - 10:39am
 
• • • PUZZLES • • • - BlueHeronDruid - Jul 3, 2020 - 10:02am
 
Lyrics That Remind You of Someone - buddy - Jul 3, 2020 - 8:48am
 
• • • Things Magicians Exclaim • • •  - oldviolin - Jul 3, 2020 - 8:20am
 
Bluos App and Vault 2 Streamer. Is it playing in Flac? - BillG - Jul 3, 2020 - 8:05am
 
• • • BRING OUT YOUR DEAD • • •  - oldviolin - Jul 3, 2020 - 8:04am
 
::odd but intriguing:: - oldviolin - Jul 3, 2020 - 8:01am
 
Questions. - oldviolin - Jul 3, 2020 - 7:47am
 
• • • Things Musicians Exclaim • • • - - oldviolin - Jul 3, 2020 - 7:46am
 
What the hell OV? - oldviolin - Jul 3, 2020 - 7:43am
 
How are you coping/dealing with the crisis? - kurtster - Jul 3, 2020 - 2:44am
 
Oh, The Stupidity - haresfur - Jul 3, 2020 - 2:40am
 
Ask the Libertarian - rexi - Jul 3, 2020 - 1:30am
 
The Obituary Page - ScottFromWyoming - Jul 2, 2020 - 10:01pm
 
NASA & other news from space - R_P - Jul 2, 2020 - 7:45pm
 
What are you listening to now? - black321 - Jul 2, 2020 - 7:14pm
 
Anti-War - R_P - Jul 2, 2020 - 6:04pm
 
Vinyl for old timer - Steely_D - Jul 2, 2020 - 6:00pm
 
Tech & Science - R_P - Jul 2, 2020 - 5:03pm
 
Now that is a great story! - miamizsun - Jul 2, 2020 - 4:14pm
 
260,000 Posts in one thread? - miamizsun - Jul 2, 2020 - 4:12pm
 
Watch Now ! - miamizsun - Jul 2, 2020 - 4:06pm
 
Automotive Lust - Red_Dragon - Jul 2, 2020 - 1:53pm
 
Less Tori and more anything else ;p - hellojofo - Jul 2, 2020 - 10:13am
 
sonos service - mjvander - Jul 2, 2020 - 8:53am
 
Supreme Court Rulings - Red_Dragon - Jul 2, 2020 - 8:02am
 
Florida - rgio - Jul 2, 2020 - 8:01am
 
Derplahoma Questions and Points of Interest - Isabeau - Jul 2, 2020 - 7:47am
 
Hey Baby, It's The 4th O' July - miamizsun - Jul 2, 2020 - 6:57am
 
Amazon Echo/Alexa stream not working - rochesimpson - Jul 1, 2020 - 3:31pm
 
Official date for our 20th Anniversary? - Windspirit - Jul 1, 2020 - 3:16pm
 
All Dogs Go To Heaven - Dog Pix - miamizsun - Jul 1, 2020 - 2:30pm
 
Republican Party - Red_Dragon - Jul 1, 2020 - 11:40am
 
Can't add RP service to Sonos - donot_spam - Jul 1, 2020 - 10:28am
 
Fox Spews - kurtster - Jun 30, 2020 - 9:21pm
 
Vinyl Only Spin List - kurtster - Jun 30, 2020 - 8:47pm
 
Those Lovable Policemen - R_P - Jun 30, 2020 - 8:44pm
 
Capitalism and Consumerism... now what? - haresfur - Jun 30, 2020 - 6:56pm
 
Talk Behind Their Backs Forum - VV - Jun 30, 2020 - 2:24pm
 
Trump Lies - R_P - Jun 30, 2020 - 2:21pm
 
American Justice - cc_rider - Jun 30, 2020 - 1:08pm
 
Live Music - R_P - Jun 30, 2020 - 11:48am
 
More detailed album version tag? - anonym - Jun 30, 2020 - 11:24am
 
Nederland / The Netherlands - theo1 - Jun 30, 2020 - 10:32am
 
What is "Sonos" tracking in web browser - yobyot - Jun 30, 2020 - 7:57am
 
Crazy conspiracy theories - Red_Dragon - Jun 30, 2020 - 5:28am
 
Electronic Music - R_P - Jun 29, 2020 - 8:50pm
 
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China - KarmaKarma - Jun 29, 2020 - 7:10pm
 
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rgio

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Location: West Jersey
Gender: Male


Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 5:47am

FEB 10 - "Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away"

FEB 27 - "It's going to disappear.  One day, it's like a miracle, it will disappear"

MAR 6 - "You have to be calm.  It'll go away"

APR 29 - "It's going to go away, this is going to go away"

JUN 15 - "At some point this stuff goes away and it's going away"

JUN 17 - "It's fading away.  It's going to fade away".

JUN 18 - "And it is dying out.  The numbers are starting to get very good"

JUL 1 - “And I think we are going to be very good with the coronavirus,”...  “I think that at some point, that it’s going to sort of just disappear, I hope.”

Another Unwanted U.S. Record: 50,000 New Coronavirus Cases In 1 Day

The scariest part is that there are still 4 in 10 Americans who support him.  

Cue the Greenday....

EDIT: FYI - the entire EU with 440 million people, had fewer new cases yesterday than Arizona.  
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Location: Bastrop
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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 1:59pm



 R_P wrote:
 cc_rider wrote:
 R_P wrote:
The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.
 
I know it sounds like a lot of money (because it is), but I'd bet it's about the same cost as a couple hours (or less) in the ER, or fifteen minutes in ICU, or a few minutes on a ventilator.

It seems like hospitals would jump at the chance to reduce expenses by reducing a patient's time in treatment.
c.
 
Where you might be gouged as well, unless you have excellent coverage...

 
Might? Practically guaranteed!
c.

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 1:41pm

 cc_rider wrote:
 R_P wrote:
The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.
 
I know it sounds like a lot of money (because it is), but I'd bet it's about the same cost as a couple hours (or less) in the ER, or fifteen minutes in ICU, or a few minutes on a ventilator.

It seems like hospitals would jump at the chance to reduce expenses by reducing a patient's time in treatment.
c.
 
Where you might be gouged as well, unless you have excellent coverage...
cc_rider

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 1:33pm



 R_P wrote:
The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.

 
I know it sounds like a lot of money (because it is), but I'd bet it's about the same cost as a couple hours (or less) in the ER, or fifteen minutes in ICU, or a few minutes on a ventilator.

It seems like hospitals would jump at the chance to reduce expenses by reducing a patient's time in treatment.
c.

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 11:16am

The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Public Citizen immediately declared the pricing “offensive.” “It’s outrageous,” said Zain Rizvi, a drug-pricing expert who works for the consumer advocacy group. “Even during a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry can’t help but price gouge.” Rizvi said that the price may affect who gets the therapy — and hit the uninsured hardest. “Some patients may choose to skip their care,” he said. “Others may be on the hook for thousands of dollars.” Hospitals may also be hesitant to use the drug because of its price.

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Jun 30, 2020 - 7:04pm

Victorian Premier warns entire state could go back into lockdown as coronavirus cases continue to rise



"The message is really clear if you want to see these lockdowns eased … follow the rules, use common sense, don't pretend it's over."

And that's with 73 new cases yesterday. Can't imaging how US states are going to manage to get a handle on their trends with so many people ignoring the science.
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Posted: Jun 30, 2020 - 3:55pm

Sweden launches inquiry into coronavirus handling
The commission of inquiry will be composed of medical experts, ethicists and economists and will be led by Mats Melin, a former president of Sweden’s supreme administrative court. The government had wanted it to include politicians although that proposal was dropped.

Dr. Anthony Fauci says U.S. coronavirus outbreak is ‘going to be very disturbing,’ could top 100,000 new cases a day

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Posted: Jun 30, 2020 - 1:59pm

The Condoms of the Face: Why Some Men Refuse to Wear Masks
It’s not the first time masculine ideology has driven resistance to a public health initiative
kurtster

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Location: drifting
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Posted: Jun 30, 2020 - 5:40am

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Unfortunate but it was early on and in the big blue paradise of California, go figure.  I know Corona very well, fwiw.

Since she works for 3-M and they ordered her to get the test, she should sue the shit out of them and get enough to retire.

That's how California is set up.  Liberal paradise an all ...
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Posted: Jun 30, 2020 - 5:20am

Essential Worker Shoulders $1,840 Debt For Trying To Get Tested For COVID-19
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Posted: Jun 30, 2020 - 12:50am

This Isn’t a Curve, It’s an Endless Plateau
From social distancing to social exhaustion, coronavirus waits out a restless American populace
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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 5:40pm


buddy

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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 2:04pm



More states hit pause on reopening

At least 14 states have paused or rolled back their reopening plans as the United States sees a surge in coronavirus cases across the country.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 12:09pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
CNN links are the only acceptable kind here!  Totally irrefutable, right? 
 
I see, apparently CNN is only baaaaaaahaaaad when it's about your beloved crypto-fascist-in-chief...
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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 11:58am



 R_P wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
hang on, I thought you didn't like collectivist structures.
 
Or "fake news" CNN.


 
CNN links are the only acceptable kind here!  Totally irrefutable, right?  

Now don't you have some knitting to do in your own online socialism klub?  You're so predictable.  

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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 11:56am

 KarmaKarma wrote:


 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
hang on, I thought you didn't like collectivist structures.
 

I'm sorry to hear that you have a reading comprehension problem.  Perhaps try at-home tutoring or an online course?
 
enlighten me, oh learned one.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 11:55am



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
hang on, I thought you didn't like collectivist structures.
 

I'm sorry to hear that you have a reading comprehension problem.  Perhaps try at-home tutoring or an online course?
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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 11:54am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
hang on, I thought you didn't like collectivist structures.
 
Or "fake news" CNN.

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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 11:53am

 KarmaKarma wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Far out. That's nuts. Why do the insurance companies accept such inflated bills? 
 

Because they don't pay them. They have agreements with the hospitals; the hospital bills a huge amount to establish their rate, but has a contract with insurance that says they'll accept vastly less. But if you're out of network or a self-pay, they can point to the $6000 as "usual and customary" and there you go. America!
 
There are a number of retailers that practice the same strategy.  Their so-called "our regular price" is only posted half the time, or less, to establish evidence of a list price, or some such thing.  Then when they advertise the item for 70-90% OFF! , they have many know-nots fall for it and rush in.  Watch their ads long enough and you see the clear pattern.  Actual market price is really their discounted $ell price.

Now, not to be accused of being off-topic...

Here's how much Covid-19 drug remdesivir will cost

Gilead Sciences, the company that makes the Covid-19 drug, announced in an open letter on Monday morning that it has decided to set a price of $390 per vial for the US government, which would include Veterans Affairs and Department of Defense hospitals, and other governments of developed countries. But the discounted price will not include Medicare or Medicaid.
A typical five-day treatment course would include six vials, which would equate to $2,340 per patient, Daniel O'Day, Gilead Sciences chairman and CEO, said in the letter.
The US government will continue to manage US allocations of remdesivir to hospitals through September, the company said.
The letter added that the price for US private insurance companies will be $520 per vial, which would total $3,120 per patient for a five-day treatment course of six vials.
Hmmm.  Yes, there's the argument all patent medicine drug companies argue about recovering cost of development.  But really, it's price differentials like this that really piss off the public.
 
hang on, I thought you didn't like collectivist structures.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2020 - 11:51am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Far out. That's nuts. Why do the insurance companies accept such inflated bills? 
 

Because they don't pay them. They have agreements with the hospitals; the hospital bills a huge amount to establish their rate, but has a contract with insurance that says they'll accept vastly less. But if you're out of network or a self-pay, they can point to the $6000 as "usual and customary" and there you go. America!
 
There are a number of retailers that practice the same strategy.  Their so-called "our regular price" is only posted half the time, or less, to establish evidence of a list price, or some such thing.  Then when they advertise the item for 70-90% OFF! , they have many know-nots fall for it and rush in.  Watch their ads long enough and you see the clear pattern.  Actual market price is really their discounted $ell price.

Now, not to be accused of being off-topic...

Here's how much Covid-19 drug remdesivir will cost

Gilead Sciences, the company that makes the Covid-19 drug, announced in an open letter on Monday morning that it has decided to set a price of $390 per vial for the US government, which would include Veterans Affairs and Department of Defense hospitals, and other governments of developed countries. But the discounted price will not include Medicare or Medicaid.
A typical five-day treatment course would include six vials, which would equate to $2,340 per patient, Daniel O'Day, Gilead Sciences chairman and CEO, said in the letter.
The US government will continue to manage US allocations of remdesivir to hospitals through September, the company said.
The letter added that the price for US private insurance companies will be $520 per vial, which would total $3,120 per patient for a five-day treatment course of six vials.


Hmmm.  Yes, there's the argument all patent medicine drug companies argue about recovering cost of development.  But really, it's price differentials like this that really piss off the public.
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