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Posted: Sep 17, 2020 - 4:03am

COVID-19 emails from Nashville mayor's office show disturbing revelation

 
 
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Posted: Sep 17, 2020 - 2:24am



 kurtster wrote:
Yeah, been hearing a lot about how the "Great Reset" is already well under way and what it entails the past several months. Just another part of the implementation of UN Agenda 21 as I see it.

I clearly do not like and am highly opposed to the New (Globalist) World Order which was once portrayed by themselves as just a conspiracy theory. They have come out of pretending to be something else and openly embrace the name "New World Order" now. I just hate when conspiracy theories stop being conspiracy theories and real like we said all along. Sigh ...

A couple of years ago when all the crap about Trump being Putin's bitch came out, I tried to point out that we needed to actually come to terms with Russia and find a solution to our differences, rather than the phony Russia, Russia, Russia hoax driven by the establishment which actually drove Russia straight into China's arms. We had a chance to join up with Russia against China as we did in WW II to fight the Axis powers. As usual, I was called crazy. And now that ship has sailed.

And who is leading the cover for the Chinese trying to portray them as hero's in the fight against CV 19 rather than the perpetrators of CV 19 ? The same people behind the R, R, R hoax.


Oh and, speaking of the R, R, R hoax, did you hear about the recent discovery of all the DOJ cell phones of those on Mueller's staff got "accidentally" wiped ? All 27 of them ?

Wow, that is just plain bad luck, right ?
Tucker Carlson criticizes Facebook for censoring interview with Chinese virologist

Tucker Carlson criticizes Facebook for censoring interview with Chinese virologist

Facebook and other tech giants have engaged in a troubling pattern of censoring speech surrounding major issues in the coronavirus debate, Fox News host Tucker Carlson argued during his Wednesday night monologue. 


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Posted: Sep 17, 2020 - 1:03am

Do ordinary eyeglasses offer protection against COVID-19?
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Posted: Sep 14, 2020 - 2:30pm


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Posted: Sep 14, 2020 - 5:44am

New England Journal of Medicine....

Facial Masking for Covid-19 — Potential for “Variolation” as We Await a Vaccine


As SARS-CoV-2 continues its global spread, it’s possible that one of the pillars of Covid-19 pandemic control — universal facial masking — might help reduce the severity of disease and ensure that a greater proportion of new infections are asymptomatic. If this hypothesis is borne out, universal masking could become a form of “variolation” that would generate immunity and thereby slow the spread of the virus in the United States and elsewhere, as we await a vaccine.
...

Ultimately, combating the pandemic will involve driving down both transmission rates and severity of disease.  Increasing evidence suggests that population-wide facial masking might benefit both components of the response.


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Posted: Sep 13, 2020 - 11:51am


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Posted: Sep 13, 2020 - 8:33am



 kurtster wrote:


I only read the first article which supports my contention in the other thread..

 


.Although to be fair, I only read the first line of your post as well. 

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Posted: Sep 13, 2020 - 4:22am


kurtster

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Posted: Sep 13, 2020 - 12:30am

 Ohmsen wrote: 
Yeah, been hearing a lot about how the "Great Reset" is already well under way and what it entails the past several months.  Just another part of the implementation of UN Agenda 21 as I see it.

I clearly do not like and am highly opposed to the New (Globalist) World Order which was once portrayed by themselves as just a conspiracy theory.  They have come out of pretending to be something else and openly embrace the name "New World Order" now.  I just hate when conspiracy theories stop being conspiracy theories and real like we said all along.  Sigh ...

A couple of years ago when all the crap about Trump being Putin's bitch came out, I tried to point out that we needed to actually come to terms with Russia and find a solution to our differences, rather than the phony Russia, Russia, Russia hoax driven by the establishment which actually drove Russia straight into China's arms.  We had a chance to join up with Russia against China as we did in WW II to fight the Axis powers.  As usual, I was called crazy.  And now that ship has sailed.

And who is leading the cover for the Chinese trying to portray them as hero's in the fight against CV 19 rather than the perpetrators of CV 19 ?  The same people behind the R, R, R hoax.

Oh and, speaking of the  R, R, R hoax, did you hear about the recent discovery of all the DOJ cell phones of those on Mueller's staff got "accidentally" wiped ?  All 27 of them ?

Wow, that is just plain bad luck, right ?
kurtster

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Posted: Sep 12, 2020 - 9:11pm

 Steely_D wrote:
I'm taking the discussion in another forum over here.

FTA: There should be no issue "unless you are wearing a plastic impermeable mask," he said in an emailed response, adding however that care needs to be taken with very young children.

Prolonged use of face masks unlikely to cause hypercapnia (too much carbon dioxide)

and

FALSE: Prolonged face mask use causes hypoxia, hypercapnia


I mean, really, this stuff is easy to find instead of spreading easily debunked rumors. Why do people choose to be uninformed?
(Answer: it seems they have a world view that they can't imagine changing.)
 
I only read the first article which supports my contention in the other thread, that wearing a mask is a legitimate concern for those with COPD and other lung issues along with diabetes.

...
However, Kenyan infectious disease epidemiologist Mark Nanyingi warned that people suffering from chronic respiratory illnesses may exert unnecessary pressure on their lungs while wearing masks.

“A person with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease can easily suffer from hypoxia or hypercapnia while wearing face masks for prolonged hours as their lungs are already under pressure and doing so they place themselves at a higher risk,” he told AFP.

Regarding the concerns with masks and ketoacidosis, which I specifically mentioned, I offer the following ... from a reasonable source ...

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The body attempts to reduce the level of acid by increasing the rate and depth of breathing. This blows off carbon dioxide in the breath, which tends to correct the acidosis temporarily (known as acidotic breathing).

At the same time, the high secretion of glucose into the urine causes large quantities of water and salts to be lost, putting the body at serious risk of dehydration.

Eventually, over-breathing becomes inadequate to control the acidosis.
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Symptoms of acidosis are:

  • fast, deep breathing
  • a smell of acetone on your breath (like pear drops or nail varnish)
  • nausea and vomiting
  • stomach pains.

Diabetic acidosis is often triggered by an infection, such as a urine or chest infection. It can develop in anything from a matter of hours to a few days, but it usually comes on very quickly.

So while healthy diabetics should not experience problems using masks, those with COPD and diabetes could indeed have serious problems using a mask as I mentioned in the other thread.

And with all due respect, I do not consider cloth masks, such as those that are of the homemade or infomercial variety effective and are mostly cosmetic.  I am only talking about your basic procedure mask or better in the context of my points.  A mask designed for medical considerations and usage.

My points were meant to illustrate how masks can have an actual negative affect on those with advanced medical conditions, which sadly are pretty common and widespread in our country.  The point I was rebutting was that "there are no downsides to wearing a mask".  A pronouncement without limitations or exclusions that on its face applies to everyone.

My whole point was to show that this statement is patently false and misleading as it is being presented in a political discussion as an absolute truth.  The person making that statement is either deliberately trying to be misleading or not thinking past themselves or poorly informed or all of the preceding. 

Your article provides support for my contention.  That there are indeed exceptions to that claim I was addressing and that many, not a few, can be more than just inconvenienced.

And FWIW, everything I stated in the other thread is long known personal knowledge and immediate stream of conscience thinking based upon paying close attention of everything in front of me.  It was just basic simple knowledge and understanding to me.  I feel that it was reasonable and fundamentally correct without any citation or needed additional research prior to making my rebuttal.  It was an opinion which seems to have stood up to scrutiny.  I do not do Facebook or news feeds either so I was not aware of any of those misleading emails and posts that circulate in those kinds of places.

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Posted: Sep 12, 2020 - 7:17pm

And, there are no articles I can find suggesting that wearing a mask is worrisome for those with diabetes, especially in the arena of hypercapnia.

Specific reminders for people with diabetes:

  • “I tell patients to be a bit OCD about hand washing — be very compulsive about that.”
  • “Get a flu shot, because you can prevent any form of the flu, and that’s always beneficial.”
  • “Be very careful around people who have signs of respiratory illnesses who are coughing, sneezing, etc. Keep your distance or just try to be very cautious about physical contact with them.”
  • “In general, face masks are not a very effective preventive option. It’s more… (about) the hand washing and getting your flu shot.”
  • “A humid environment is also beneficial. If your house is dry, especially in the wintertime, use a humidifier. The first place where germs can penetrate into the body is the nasal passages and if they dry out due to dry air, you’re kind of opening the door and marshaling germs into your system.”

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Posted: Sep 12, 2020 - 7:09pm

I'm taking the discussion in another forum over here.

FTA: There should be no issue "unless you are wearing a plastic impermeable mask," he said in an emailed response, adding however that care needs to be taken with very young children.

Prolonged use of face masks unlikely to cause hypercapnia (too much carbon dioxide)

and

FALSE: Prolonged face mask use causes hypoxia, hypercapnia


I mean, really, this stuff is easy to find instead of spreading easily debunked rumors. Why do people choose to be uninformed?
(Answer: it seems they have a world view that they can't imagine changing.)
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Posted: Sep 12, 2020 - 4:51pm

UN assembly approves pandemic resolution; US, Israel object
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Posted: Sep 12, 2020 - 12:41pm

Trumpolini prefers "good news" and the minions know it...
The health department’s politically appointed communications aides have demanded the right to review and seek changes to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s weekly scientific reports charting the progress of the coronavirus pandemic, in what officials characterized as an attempt to intimidate the reports’ authors and water down their communications to health professionals.

In some cases, emails from communications aides to CDC Director Robert Redfield and other senior officials openly complained that the agency’s reports would undermine President Donald Trump's optimistic messages about the outbreak, according to emails reviewed by POLITICO and three people familiar with the situation. (...)

Caputo also said that HHS was appropriately reviewing the CDC's reports. “Our intention is to make sure that evidence, science-based data drives policy through this pandemic—not ulterior deep state motives in the bowels of CDC," he said.

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Posted: Sep 11, 2020 - 5:24pm

'It’s world-leadingly bad, is what it is': the week Covid surged again in UK
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Posted: Sep 11, 2020 - 2:54am

                                           Pepe Escobar - From 9/11 to the Great Reset
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