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Proclivities
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R_P wrote:There's a deep irony in some sources citing that as a Mark Twain quote from 1919, given that he died in 1910.
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miamizsun wrote:i heard that a lie can spread around the world before the truth can get out of bed, scratch its arse and tie its shoes Pretty much
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R_P wrote: i heard that a lie can spread around the world before the truth can get out of bed, scratch its arse and tie its shoes
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Coaxial
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oldviolin
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 Red_Dragon wrote: This world is SO fucked up.
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blueprint, format, sheep
rooster, pullet, hen
whaddi say that was?
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R_P wrote: This world is SO fucked up.
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black321 wrote: The lives saved is the key bit of this, yet that doesn't erase the fact that a lot of people have been hit hard financially due to ACA. On the other hand, one could argue those impacted financially were skirting their responsibility to maintain coverage...thinking they were healthy now, so why do they need it? Like the uninsured driver who's fine, as long as he doesn't hit anyone.
The impression I get since implementation is that at least some of these alleged "hard hit" people weren't savvy enough to find the most affordable deal available to them (yes, the way things are set up seems unnecessarily complex/byzantine). A good friend who owns his own business complained bitterly about the ACA when it was first passed, but they (he and his wife) have found a deal that is better than what they had prior to ACA. You're not going to pass tax reform without some being winners and some losers, and the same is probably inevitable for health care reform. A plan that reduces all people's per person average cost per year for coverage might potentially have other downsides (like affecting employment in the health care industry). It seems pretty evident that the people benefiting financially and healthwise from the law are significantly greater in number than the people who are taking a financial hit.
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aflanigan wrote:Anecdotes are a great way to set policy, right? Perhaps you should stop to consider that there are at least a couple dozen (probably more) people who are alive today to be able to even tell anecdotes of whatever kind due to obtaining insurance through the ACA (oddly enough, uninsured people who have died already, whose death might have been prevented with access to care provided via insurance, seem unable to tell their stories, so they often are excluded from anecdotal analyses). And many thousands more have insurance now (and thus access to health care beyond free clinics and the ER) who didn't before. It's easy to take insurance for granted when you have it. Nice not to have to constantly worry about how sick you can let yourself (or your child) get before you are forced to go to the ER and waste hours there just so they can prescribe asthma medicine that you will have trouble paying for. The lives saved is the key bit of this, yet that doesn't erase the fact that a lot of people have been hit hard financially due to ACA. On the other hand, one could argue those impacted financially were skirting their responsibility to maintain coverage...thinking they were healthy now, so why do they need it? Like the uninsured driver who's fine, as long as he doesn't hit anyone.
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sirdroseph wrote: I have many personal anecdotes of lower income people that did not feel like winners from the ACA, but that's just like real life and stuff.
Anecdotes are a great way to set policy, right? Perhaps you should stop to consider that there are at least a couple dozen (probably more) people who are alive today to be able to even tell anecdotes of whatever kind due to obtaining insurance through the ACA (oddly enough, uninsured people who have died already, whose death might have been prevented with access to care provided via insurance, seem unable to tell their stories, so they often are excluded from anecdotal analyses). And many thousands more have insurance now (and thus access to health care beyond free clinics and the ER) who didn't before. It's easy to take insurance for granted when you have it. Nice not to have to constantly worry about how sick you can let yourself (or your child) get before you are forced to go to the ER and waste hours there just so they can prescribe asthma medicine that you will have trouble paying for.
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miamizsun wrote: i think there are a lot of people with a similar thought process
we're creatures that have been conditioned to seek complex solutions to complex problems
could there be simplex answers to complex problems?
the affordable care act is what? a thousand pages?
the tax code? thousands of pages?
the compliance costs with these two complex monstrosities is mind boggling
i read where there are twenty five registered lobbyists per rep on the hill
and another twenty five or so per rep that are unregistered?
for the aca i think there were seven or so lobbyists per rep
this type of bribery is the reason that massive amounts political coercion are typically embedded these things
and medicare? the waste and fraud are legendary
the corruption is out of control and it is not sustainable
btw, i'm not holding up gary johnson or libertarianism as a cure all
do i think that principled thought and downsizing dc are reasonable?
or that pointing out bad ideas and the violence or threat of violence used to back them up could help reel this nuttery in?
yes
i don't care who implements good ideas
regards
I think that the complexity is just there to hide the true motives. The conditioning is people believing that they are in (or will soon be in) the privileged class who get all the perks. This is what seniority and tenure and all the other non-merit based pieces of our society are about - "hang on, you'll get your chance at the trough". The reality is that there is plenty to go around, but people are willing to do without for the chance to screw everyone else over. We are sad little monkeys.
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kurtster
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miamizsun wrote: i don't care who implements good ideas
regards
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