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Posted: Aug 1, 2020 - 12:49pm

Disinformed to Death
For the better part of four years, those sounding the alarm about the dangers of fake news and the perils of a post-truth world struggled to make the case that this was a matter of life and death. Try as they might to argue that a secure foundation of facts was the very basis of a liberal, democratic society—that such a society could not function without a common, agreed-upon basis of evidence—the concern seemed somehow abstract, intellectual, even elitist. Their angst was easily dismissed by their populist foes as the self-interested whine of a snobbish establishment. And then came the coronavirus.

When a pandemic is raging, it becomes harder to deny that rigorous, truthful information is a mortal necessity. No one need explain the risks of false information when one can point to, say, the likely consequences of Americans’ coming to believe they can deflect the virus by injecting themselves with bleach. (The fact that that advice came from the podium of the president of the United States is one we shall return to.) In Britain, Conservative ministers who once cheerfully brushed aside Brexit naysayers by declaring that the country had “had enough of experts” soon sought to reassure voters that they were “following the science.” In the first phase of the crisis, they rarely dared appear in public unless flanked by those they now gratefully referred to as experts.

So perhaps the moment is ripe for a trio of new books on disinformation. All three were written before the virus struck, before we saw people refuse to take life-saving action because they’d absorbed a baseless conspiracy theory linking Covid to, say, the towers that emit signals for 5G mobile phone coverage. But the pandemic might mean these books will now find a more receptive audience, one that has seen all too starkly that information is a resource essential for public health and well-being—and that our information supply is being deliberately, constantly, and severely contaminated. (...)

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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 7:26pm

The placing of scores of opinion pieces about the Middle East in conservative media outlets by a mysterious network of supposed analysts who were actually fake journalists has been exposed by a US website.


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Posted: Jul 24, 2020 - 10:33pm

Some real news about fake news ...
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The Washington Post, Nick Sandmann settle $250 million lawsuit out of court

In a tweet Friday, Sandmann said: "The fight isn't over. 2 down. 6 to go."  CNN has settled with Sandmann in January. The details of that settlement were private.  There are outstanding lawsuits against NBC, ABC News, CBS News, The New York Times, Rolling Stone and Gannett. The Enquirer is owned by Gannett.  Between all the lawsuits, Sandmann sought $1.25 billion in damages. With the CNN and Washington Post lawsuits settled, he is still seeking $725 million.

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Posted: Jul 24, 2020 - 11:01am

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Posted: Jun 14, 2020 - 7:08pm



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Barr personally ordered removal of protesters near White House, leading to use of force against largely peaceful crowd




Attorney General William P. Barr personally ordered law enforcement officials on the ground to clear the streets around Lafayette Square just before President Trump spoke Monday, a Justice Department official said, a directive that prompted a show of aggression against a crowd of largely peaceful protesters, drawing widespread condemnation.


Inside the push to tear-gas protesters ahead of a Trump photo op

 

It is particularly bad that the government did not obtain permission from the property owner or work with them in organizing the photo-op
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 1:20pm


Barr personally ordered removal of protesters near White House, leading to use of force against largely peaceful crowd




Attorney General William P. Barr personally ordered law enforcement officials on the ground to clear the streets around Lafayette Square just before President Trump spoke Monday, a Justice Department official said, a directive that prompted a show of aggression against a crowd of largely peaceful protesters, drawing widespread condemnation.


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On Tuesday, however, federal officials offered conflicting reasons for the forcible removal of the protesters, seeking to separate the move from Trump’s visit to the church.

The White House asserted that the crowd was dispersed to help enforce the city’s 7 p.m. curfew. Meanwhile, two federal law enforcement officials said the decision had been made late Sunday night or early Monday morning to extend the perimeter around Lafayette Square by one block.

The plan was to be executed, according to the Justice Department official, the following afternoon. Barr was a part of the decision-making process, the official said, was not authorized to speak ahead of Barr addressing the matter himself publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The Justice Department official said that in the afternoon, Barr went to survey the scene and found the perimeter had not been extended. The attorney general conferred with law enforcement officials on the ground.

“He conferred with them to check on the status, and basically said, ‘This needs to be done. Get it done,’” the Justice Department official said.


Police soon moved on the protesters.

Throughout Tuesday, several federal agencies involved in the response declined to answer questions about who ordered the use of force and the clearing of the park, which occurred just before Trump’s visit to the park.

A White House spokesman declined to comment on who gave the order, referring questions to law enforcement agencies. The Secret Service declined to comment. A spokesman for the U.S. Park Police said the agency would have a statement, but did not provide one as of Tuesday afternoon.


Defense officials on Tuesday said the National Guard did not participate in decision to clear Lafayette Square on Monday evening and did not take part in firing any rubber bullets or gas.


D.C. city officials said they were not involved in the decision to use force, which Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) called “shameful.”


“I didn’t see any provocation that would warrant the deployment of munitions, and especially for the purpose of moving the president across the street,” the mayor said at a Tuesday news conference.


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Inside the push to tear-gas protesters ahead of a Trump photo op


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Trump had directed Barr to personally “lead” the response to the unrest in D.C. Monday night, according to Justice Department spokeswoman. Less than an hour before police moved to clear the peaceful demonstrators from in front of Lafayette Park, Barr was spotted on video talking to  officials at the scene.

Around the same time, White House deputy chief of operations Tony Ornato  contacted the Secret Service to arrange for the president to make a brief, unplanned appearance outside St. John’s Church, according to two people familiar with the plans. Following protocol, the Secret Service alerted other law enforcement agencies it would need help clearing the area for the president’s safety, they said.








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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 12:36pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Our own Red_Dragon, played like a fiddle...


Ahead of Trump Bible photo op, police forcibly expel priest from St. John's church near White House
https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/post/3875837


REALITY:

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-protesters-trump-church-visit


 

That scenario wouldn't surprise me but I'm not so sure I'd call that Fox News assertion "reality" just yet -at least not until there is an official statement from the Park Police.   "...on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP  that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship...The Park Police did not immediately respond to request for comment from Fox News."
There is a later Tweet from Augenstein (well, quite a few later Tweets): :"Obviously, this is Park Police's side of the story. I'll be checking with @wtop reporters who were on the scene last night, to plug-in what they observed with what Park Police are telling me. Park Police will be releasing a statement later today."

 
It is inconceivable that the Secret Service would allow a president to be anywhere near the place if the people there had been attacking cops. 

 
Exactly. Trump would not have made that walk unless the area had been secured.  

Washington Post is reporting that AG Barr had ordered the law enforcement  perimeter be extended by a block.

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 12:28pm



 Proclivities wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Our own Red_Dragon, played like a fiddle...


Ahead of Trump Bible photo op, police forcibly expel priest from St. John's church near White House
https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/post/3875837


REALITY:

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-protesters-trump-church-visit


 

That scenario wouldn't surprise me but I'm not so sure I'd call that Fox News assertion "reality" just yet -at least not until there is an official statement from the Park Police.   "...on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP  that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship...The Park Police did not immediately respond to request for comment from Fox News."
There is a later Tweet from Augenstein (well, quite a few later Tweets): :"Obviously, this is Park Police's side of the story. I'll be checking with @wtop reporters who were on the scene last night, to plug-in what they observed with what Park Police are telling me. Park Police will be releasing a statement later today."

 
It is inconceivable that the Secret Service would allow a president to be anywhere near the place if the people there had been attacking cops. 

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 12:21pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
Our own Red_Dragon, played like a fiddle...


Ahead of Trump Bible photo op, police forcibly expel priest from St. John's church near White House
https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/post/3875837


REALITY:

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-protesters-trump-church-visit


 

That scenario wouldn't surprise me but I'm not so sure I'd call that Fox News assertion "reality" just yet -at least not until there is an official statement from the Park Police.   "...on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP  that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship...The Park Police did not immediately respond to request for comment from Fox News."
There is a later Tweet from Augenstein (well, quite a few later Tweets): :"Obviously, this is Park Police's side of the story. I'll be checking with @wtop reporters who were on the scene last night, to plug-in what they observed with what Park Police are telling me. Park Police will be releasing a statement later today."

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 12:02pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
Our own Red_Dragon, played like a fiddle...

Original too!

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
 
Here's a cracker, Polly. Good boy!
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 11:54am



 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
Our own Red_Dragon, played like a fiddle...

Original too!
 

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 11:49am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Our own Red_Dragon, played like a fiddle...

Original too!
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 11:37am

Our own Red_Dragon, played like a fiddle...


Ahead of Trump Bible photo op, police forcibly expel priest from St. John's church near White House
https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/post/3875837


REALITY:

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-protesters-trump-church-visit


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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 10:39am

Hmmmm. I am pretty sure I saw a post here from KK citing a news article saying that Lafayette Park was cleared not because President Trump would momentarily be making his way on foot from the White House to St. John’s Episcopal Church but because the protesters in the park had attacked law enforcement officers. I guess he deleted  it. 

There is no way President Trump would have made that walk if the area had not been secured to reasonably assure his safety.  

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 9:10am



 sirdroseph wrote:

I am sure there is probably a little of that left in there for some......maybe, but sadly this motivation has drifted further and further down the list of media priorities.
 
I disagree with your opinion as to the motivations of journalists.


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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 9:04am

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 sirdroseph wrote:
You could very easily surmise that the only true "winners" in all of this mess are the media.  As soon as the cameras turn off, the drama face quickly turns to orgasmic joy as the industry bask in coveted eyeballs and career bumps for the tv personalities.   They don't even need Trump anymore, he is just icing on the cake.{#Rolleyes}
 
The protests/riots across the nation are newsworthy events. So is Covid-19. So was 9-11. So was the Vietnam War, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan. And on and on. 

Journalism careers have been launched or elevated by coverage during times of crisis. War correspondents, in particular, have drawn plaudits. Of course, some of them also have died covering those wars. Journalists put themselves in harm’s way when covering many events/stories, including these recent riots. They do so because that is part of the job. They do so to keep people informed. 

 
I am sure there is probably a little of that left in there for some......maybe, but sadly this motivation has drifted further and further down the list of media priorities.
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 8:48am



 sirdroseph wrote:
You could very easily surmise that the only true "winners" in all of this mess are the media.  As soon as the cameras turn off, the drama face quickly turns to orgasmic joy as the industry bask in coveted eyeballs and career bumps for the tv personalities.   They don't even need Trump anymore, he is just icing on the cake.
{#Rolleyes}
 
The protests/riots across the nation are newsworthy events. So is Covid-19. So was 9-11. So was the Vietnam War, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan. And on and on. 

Journalism careers have been launched or elevated by coverage during times of crisis. War correspondents, in particular, have drawn plaudits. Of course, some of them also have died covering those wars. Journalists put themselves in harm’s way when covering many events/stories, including these recent riots. They do so because that is part of the job. They do so to keep people informed. 

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 7:42am

You could very easily surmise that the only true "winners" in all of this mess are the media.  As soon as the cameras turn off, the drama face quickly turns to orgasmic joy as the industry bask in coveted eyeballs and career bumps for the tv personalities.   They don't even need Trump anymore, he is just icing on the cake.{#Rolleyes}
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 6:43am



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Our own KarmaKarma, played like a fiddle. KK even posted that very tweet bolded in the article below. 

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